Mr. Fox

I still have a lot to figure out for the best settings for tuning of this new EPYC CPU but it does appear to be better than either of my good but average 9950X samples. Initial impressions are that it is a pretty decent sample. I think my memory kit could be a little better, but I was surprised it could run 6400 1:1 and FCLK 2200. I haven't spend much time with core tuning yet, just set a simple PBO, but will definitely need a good manual overclock to see any respectable Cinebench results. I will play with it more tomorrow to confirm it is worth keeping before I delid it. I always forget how crazy hot these CPUs are that have not been decapitated and run bare die. There are still many hours that need to be invested to find what works best. Requires a lot more time and effort with AMD to get things figured out.

Hopefully this was not a waste of sand. But, I will find out as soon as I button things up. If it's not better than what I already have it's going back for a refund.

I've been watching the insane increase in DDR5 prices. I don't need any, but decided to see if I could find some spares cheap to hang onto. Just scored a Trident Z5 DDR5-8000 48GB CL40 1.400V kit with Supercool direct touch cooler on eBay for $250. That same RAM kit is now about $300 sold and shipped by NewEgg. So, basically like getting the Supercool cooler kit for free, give or take a couple of bucks.

Intel Core Ultra 290K, 270K and 250K Plus spec leak: “Arrow Lake Refresh” with higher clocks, more cores and faster memory support So, a real "nothing burger" when all is said and done. The most intelligent thing AMD has going for it is long-term socket viability. Intel needs to learn from this now and back-track on some of their recent very stupid ideas (bring back hyperthreading and go back to monolithic design without the stupid Atom cores). It is hurting them more than they know. Their ending of hyperthreading was the final nail in the coffin for me. But their constant socket revisions requiring new motherboards after a few CPU generations is a compelling reason for people to choose AMD even if they would rather stay with Intel. (I am conflicted because I can't say that I like either one now. They both have pros and cons, but both have more cons than pros.) The short socket lifespan is a very damning attribute for Intel now that they no longer operate from a place of absolute supremacy and domination. They used to expect us to put up with it as going with the territory, which was fine when they still ruled the world. I'd really like to make my next build an Intel platform again. The overclocking experience (CPU and memory) is much better on Intel, but the lack of hyperthreading and abbreviated upgrade path due to frequent socket changes is making me question the logic of it. Once upon a time, not long ago, that was the only somewhat logical basis for choosing to go with AMD instead of Intel and that alone was never enough because there were too many other compromises attached to the idea. Intel should revive X299 and make modern versions of CPUs for that socket LGA 2011-v2 platform... 32 or 36 threads at 6.0GHz+ all-core overclock, quad-channel DDR5 8000+ and 40+ PCIe lanes... I'd be all over that, like white on rice... hell yeah, in a heartbeat. And, I'd be willing to pay twice as much as a Core Ultra (or Ryzen) flagship CPU to have it. The most fun I have ever had with overclocking was on X299. 100% (double stock clock) overclocking wasn't that difficult.

Did you mean to link to a post by @electrosoft or an article about the shiny new product that offers so little? The link leads here: https://notebooktalk.net/topic/109-official-benchmark-thread-post-it-here-or-it-didnt-happen-d/page/824/

I generally do as well. I like understated wallpaper best (not a fan of the busy or chaotic look) and usually still with the same regardless of the machine or the OS.

Here is my new wallpaper. I use it for both Linux and Windoze wallpaper.

Zorin is the best choice for anyone moving from Windoze to Linux. Ubuntu is probably the best option for anyone wanting to ditch crApple. Any Ubuntu or Debian derivative is generally user-friendly. I like most of them. My preferred distro is Kubuntu followed by Mint. Zorin is super easy for Winduhz converts to get acclimated to Linux. It is not a customizable in terms of the GUI and when I have used it I always ended up installing Plasma/KDE. Personally, I do not care for immutable distros like Bazzite or CachyOS, although CachyOS looks fantastic the immutable aspect of it makes it an unacceptable option for me. If I wanted the OS to make all of my decisions for me and restrict what I can do then I would just stick with a crappy option like Micro$lop Windoze or crApple's MacOS.

I have been able to use my CMO file from the prior BIOS version, but the trick is to save a profile with the new BIOS first, then apply the old profile over it. (Safedisk shared this.) So after flashing I disable TPM, Secure Poot, iGPU, WiFi, BT and save it as a new BIOS profile. F10 to save and exit, then go back in and apply my OC CMO profile from the previous BIOS. That has not given me any issues. After applying the old profile and confirming all was well, then save again as a new OC profile and new CMO file for the updated BIOS version. I could see where an old profile might be incompatible if they removed, changed or added new features or rearranged menu order, but if the only changes are underlying code and BIOS default values there is no excuse for them not being compatible. I ordered an EPYC 4585PX. I hope it is better at core and memory overclocking than either of my average 9950X so I don't have to RMA/refund yet another one. The only reason I did not return either of the two I have now is they were average based on what I could tell looking at other samples judging from HWBOT scores and better than the below average trash samples I RMA'd before them. If it is not better than I am probably just going to just send it back for refund and be done with trying to enjoy lackluster AM5 overclocking. The 9950X3D that I returned was the worst Ryzen 9 sample I have ever seen. It was an absolute POS. Even gaming it turning to crap. Having to enable TPM and Secure Poot filth to play the new BF and CoD releases is totally unacceptable. I about popped a vein when I discovered they had retroactively applied Javelin to BF 2042 and rendered a game I had thoroughly enjoyed totally worthless to me. Bastards.

Nice new feature in ASUS BIOS for F3 Save as CMOS file to save all BIOS files to USB as a single file instead of a separate CMO file for current profile only. Explanation from safedisk: https://www.overclock.net/posts/29527571/ @jaybee83 @Raiderman https://www.overclock.net/posts/29527497/ Explains why CMOS is much larger than CMO.

If we are going to be real in the truest sense, we must also consider the reality of the fact that the problem is way beyond the scope of YouTube. We have EXACTLY the same problem with mainstream media "news" outlets. If YouTube is going to censor things they do not agree with or they believe to be misleading, or because it is dangerous or harmful to whatever agenda they ascribe to, it doesn't solve the problem of sheeple believing the propaganda they watch on the "news" on TV that is equally (perhaps even more) misleading, damaging and deliberate disinformation, partial truths, edited information taken out of context or with relevant details omitted to change the meaning or misrepresent the original message, etc.

It seems relatively obvious they do not care where their money comes from as long as it keeps on coming. The income generated from nefarious schemes by bad actors isn't a problem for them because they do not care about the safety and well-being of their community members. The only thing that they "police" is opinions and exchanges of views by community members that are contrary to the narrative and one-sided agenda that their organization seeks to promote.

Exactly... thanks Brother @Papusan

Send them all back to where they came from... yesterday. They shouldn't be here.

Of course. We know that will happen. It is Micro$lop, so we expect things to be goofed up. I was merely groping for something I could identify that was not negative. It is getting more difficult to find something nice to say.

I guess looking on the bright side of things, the fact that they are not screwing up the Winduhz GUI any worse than they already have is something to be happy about. I have hated the majority of the GUI changes made for the past 10 years. With very few exceptions, they generally look ugly, feel clunky, require more clicks and most of them dumb down the interface.

Thank you. Adding memory into a cooling loop is much aesthetically cleaner with a distribution block or manifold. I do not care for it when trying to tap in from the CPU or GPU block. It looks too cluttered and busy for my taste. The connections look all jammed together and chaotic to me. You'e got the network configured nicely. I bet you can feel a big improvement with how things work as well. Our home network is not nearly as sophisticated or organized, but when we had the Gigabit fibre installed by Quantum they included a couple of network mesh "pods" at no cost and having those in place dramatically improved wireless connectivity for devices at the opposite end of the home. Our home is not that big (1800 square feet, single story) but it still helped a lot. I do not know what is going on with imgbb hosting but I can hardly use their service at this point. Photos take forever (or sometimes never) to load and often show broken links. It's not user error, but something with their servers. Even viewing uploaded images from within my account on their web site it is the same.

I finally took the time to get the X870E-E Strix memory on water like the Apex. First time in quite a long time that I ran the memory with air cooling and I am so glad to not have to use a fan for it any more. I really did not like that. Water is so much better, not to mention looking a whole lot better as well. That 120mm fan hanging on a bracket from the top radiator was pretty ugly. It will take a day or two to work all of the air out of the distro block. Now it's time to hit the sack.

The problem is way too much of the new tech exists for all of the wrong reasons. Optics, aesthetics and form over function. Not better, stronger, faster, more reliable. Change purely for the sake of change, not because it was needed. They need something shiny and new to sell, and otherwise have nothing to offer. It doesn't actually need to be any good if the sheeple believe it is and buy it.

Happy Saturday. Here's some humor to brighten your weekend.

Enjoy... 📕 The Honest Guide to Social Media An unfiltered dictionary for the chronically online. Welcome to the modern digital jungle, where validation is currency, filters are armor, and everyone’s shouting into the same algorithmic abyss. Below is your field guide to the biggest platforms — rebranded to match how they actually feel after five minutes of scrolling. Proceed with caution (and maybe therapy). 🟦 FACEPOOT Origin: Facebook, aged like milk. Definition: A nostalgia machine and misinformation buffet rolled into one. Tagline: “Connecting people who should really stay disconnected.” Highlights: Wedding photos, pyramid schemes, and your uncle’s political rage posts. Symptoms of Overuse: Excessive commenting, blurry memes, and mild regret. 🐦 TWATTER Origin: Twitter, after decades of progressive emotional decay. Definition: The internet’s public restroom wall — but with more branding deals. Tagline: “Screaming into the void since 2006.” Highlights: Cancelations, performative empathy, and people mistaking sarcasm for insight. Symptoms of Overuse: Doomscrolling, passive-aggressive replies, and believing that you’re a thought leader because one tweet got 40 likes. 📸 INSTASHAM Origin: Instagram, but with 100% more self-delusion. Definition: A virtual shrine to fake happiness and overpriced lattes. Tagline: “Look perfect. Feel hollow.” Highlights: Beach photos taken three years ago, toxic positivity, and sponsored “authenticity.” Symptoms of Overuse: Comparing your life to someone’s highlight reel, compulsive face-filtering, and the urge to say “link in bio.” 🎵 TITKOK Origin: TikTok, filtered through chaos and caffeine. Definition: A 15-second dopamine slot machine powered by thirst traps and trauma jokes. A safe haven where freaks can feel normal. Tagline: “Addicted to stupidity in 15 seconds or less.” Highlights: Teenagers doing dances that require core strength you’ll never have, plus one guy who suddenly teaches you taxes. Symptoms of Overuse: Time loss, brain rot, deception, pronoun obsession, random sound bites of dysphoric maniacs, celebrations of murdered dads and husbands that dare to hold a mainstream point of view and learning more about strangers’ childhoods than your own. 💼 LICKEDIN Origin: LinkedIn, pretending to be professional while secretly desperate. Definition: A corporate cosplay convention where everyone humblebrags for attention. Tagline: “Where job titles are inflated and egos are unemployed.” Highlights: Inspirational posts from people who just got laid off and “networking” messages that feel suspiciously flirty. Symptoms of Overuse: Referring to yourself as a “thought partner,” writing essays about “resilience,” and applauding strangers like it’s church. 👽 REDDTIT Origin: Reddit, the front page of the internet — and the back alley too. Definition: A labyrinth of echo chambers where self-proclaimed geniuses debate minor details with cultlike fervor. Tagline: “Where idiots network with other idiots to prove who’s right — again.” Highlights: The same 12 opinions recycled endlessly, karma farming, and communities built entirely around hating slightly different communities. Symptoms: Chronic smugness, hateful and illogical paragraph-length replies to strangers, and the belief that you “did your own research.” 🎧 DISCHORD Origin: Discord, the world’s loudest chatroom disguised as “community.” Definition: A digital basement filled with niche obsessions, inside jokes, and arguments that last until 4 a.m. Tagline: “A place where introverts talk nonstop and logic goes offline.” Highlights: Half-baked debates, moderators on power trips, and 400 unread messages you’ll never catch up on. Symptoms: Sleep loss, cult-like server loyalty, and knowing way too much about people you’ve never met. 📱 FINAL THOUGHTS Social media promised to connect us — and it did. Mostly to anxiety, insecurity, identify theft and a steady stream of disinformation and sketchy content we can’t stop hate-scrolling. So take this dictionary as both a guide and a warning: every “like” is just another brick in the digital asylum the sheeple of the world built together. Now log off. Or at least pretend to.

When liars convince idiots that feces is good to eat, all of the idiots will be eating feces.

Another good and valid reason to build you own and not buy prebuilt garbage. It would be interesting to see if forcing a normal ASUS BIOS using an SPI flash would work.

That is a good price. I would replace my 4090 with a Windforce 5090 if I could buy it that price here. I'd like to try the mod adding the second 12VHPWR connection to the empty space on the PCB. The cheapest I have noticed here is $1999 for the Zotoc 5090 Solid (non-OC). Edit: Hmm. Looks like it is. https://www.microcenter.com/product/692139/gigabyte-nvidia-geforce-rtx-5090-windforce-triple-fan-32gb-gddr7-pcie-50-graphics-card

A$$zeus selling GPUs that can only work with one of their motherboards was likely a very deliberate act and solely the result of ulterior motives. Not a smart buy for anyone that hasn't sold their soul to the ROG clown posse. The idea itself isn't a bad one. Much better than a fragile arson 12VHPWR (aka 12V-2x6) cable. The proprietary part makes it suck. With the baloney we are seeing with respect to AMD/Radeon GPUs now, it just gives NVIDIA a stronger chokehold on the GPU market that ultimately benefits only NVIDIA. There is no reason for them to feel compelled to release a Super or 6000 GPU line because they are effectively only competing with themselves. You either take what they offer and pay more than it is worth, or you settle for something substantially less. If AMD doesn't keep their prices in check they'll have nothing to sell to budget-conscious shoppers that are willing to sacrifice performance and good thermals to save money.