Mr. Fox

Yeah, crazy. Essentially the functional equivalent of a 222% slider for power limit. Check the 3DMark links showing the GPU clock and average GPU clock values. (They are almost the same value versus the scenario where average clock is typically considerably lower.) It holds clocks much better. Voltage and power limits were tweaked significantly. mVolt+ - Tuning Overview Profile: OC2 01:39 Driver: 616.64 VBIOS: 98.03.3b.40.27 CLOCKS Core: +350 MHz Memory: +3000 MHz XBAR: +350 MHz SYS: +350 MHz Video: +250 MHz POWER Power limit: 800 W (222%) NVVDD OCP: 5001 A MSVDD OCP: 120 A Voltage Boost: 100% RAIL OFFSETS NVVDD VMIN: 0 mV NVVDD REL: +140 mV NVVDD ALT/OP: +140 mV NVVDD OV: 0 mV MSVDD VMIN: 0 mV MSVDD REL: +60 mV MSVDD ALT/OP: +60 mV MSVDD OV: 0 mV VOLTAGE NVVDD limits: 800–1200 mV MSVDD limits: 800–1120 mV Core voltage offset: +5 mV XBAR voltage offset: +5 mV SYS voltage offset: +5 mV Video voltage offset: +5 mV OTHER NVVDD/MSVDD ratio: 0.90 Clock range: 0–3600 MHz Boost Lock: Off Fan: Auto V/F curve: 0 / 127 points

I've applied an 800W power limit to the 5080 using mvolt+ Extreme. Works great. WireView Pro 2 showed a max of 825W coursing through its veins. https://hwbot.org/benchmarks/3dmark_-_steel_nomad_dx12/submissions/6074856 https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/164088570 https://hwbot.org/benchmarks/3dmark_-_speed_way/submissions/6074814 https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/164083593 https://hwbot.org/benchmarks/3dmark_-_port_royal/submissions/6074816 https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/164083791 https://hwbot.org/benchmarks/3dmark_-_time_spy/submissions/6074821 https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/164084556 https://hwbot.org/benchmarks/3dmark_-_time_spy_extreme/submissions/6074828 https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/164084873 https://hwbot.org/benchmarks/3dmark_-_sky_diver/submissions/6074861 https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/164089114 https://hwbot.org/benchmarks/3dmark11_-_performance/submissions/6074851 https://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/17000869

mvolt+ Extreme works nice. The highest power limit I could find for a 5080 vBIOS was 450W. I used it to unlock the power limit. Set it to 600W and applied my previous mvolt+ overclock profile and the WireView Pro 2 showed it pegged above 600W throughout the entire Steel Nomad run and instantly beat my previous best score by about 180 3DMarks with no change in core or memory clocks. It was definitely crippled by power limit. Now I will have to play around with higher power limits above 600W, additional voltage, XBAR, Sys and core clocks to see what it can do with no power limits crushing the GPU's gonads. https://hwbot.org/benchmarks/3dmark_-_steel_nomad_dx12/submissions/6074610 https://www.3dmark.com/compare/sn/15702068/sn/16244399#

I predict that someone invents an AI processor, like like what happened with Bitcoin miners replacing GPUs, and NVIDIA files for bankruptcy. The bigger they are, the harder they fall. As much as I do not like Radeon products, I think NVIDIA deserves to die. I am not being hyperbolic in saying that. IMHO that is what they deserve.

When I was a young man, before getting married and having kids, tactical and assault weapons, hot rods and motorcycles were my hobbies. I cannot see myself getting back into cars and motorcycles again. They've also gotten to be ungodly expensive (more so than computers have) but I could very happily get back into guns again (tactical and assault, not hunting) and have a blast, pun intended. The lefty lunatic goofballs are trying hard to ruin that too, just as they ruin everything that is good.

Adding insult to injury, we see super stupid garbage like this mobo and GPU brought to market. I honest don't understand how anyone could find the aesthetic appealing. If you like white, I do get that. It doesn't look bad and has a clean look. But the little girl/sissyboy/kitty cat cartoon crap is disgusting and grotequely effeminate. Maybe it is a generational and cultural thing, but I don't understand the appeal.

Well, that sucks. If it is still under warranty they will replace it and maybe you can sell it to recoup some of your money. There are not that many PSU manufacturers any more. A lot of them are FSP, Great Wall and SuperFlower with another label on them. ASRock and Lian Li PSUs are pretty decent and reasonably priced. On another note, I think this might be this guy's best video yet. He is saying things that we aleady know and think, but we don't see enough popular YouTubers with such a big following that are willing to just call out the tech feces for being so smelly in such a direct and unapologetic way.

Some of us here might remember a friend and partner in crime back in the the days of our Alienware laptop overclocking escapades in the old NBR forums. He went by the forum names usmc362 and Trafficante. Joe Testa was his real name. I just received a call from his wife about a half hour ago. He passed away yesterday. He was 82. He had struggled with some health things for a while and had been hospitalized a number of days. He was a Godly man, served his country in military service, (thus the USMC forum name,) and now he is in a better place. He beat us all to the Pearly Gates and will be waiting for us to catch up with him. Those that knew him will remember that he was quite the animated character and got banned many times by @katalin_2003 and Charles P. Jefferies for stirring up a hornet's nest.

For whatever reason, I had not bothered to look at my Karhu speeds on my Z890 builds. I used to do it all of the time with my Ryzen stuff. I haven't even really tried pushing the memory overclock much, just plugging along with this pedestrian 8800 profile. Maybe I will find some downtime to play around with 9000 and higher soon.

Yes, I think having one is a good idea for protecting your system from a catastrophic event such as power surge and lightning strikes. Here is a link to the one I use. I thought I would never have to worry about exceeding its 1500W capacity. I was wrong. A 5090 with modifications can and does. https://a.co/d/08HxQG3R

Snagged another G.SKILL 8400 kit for a good price to have in my backup/spare parts stash. This was pre-rampocalypse pricing for this kit. It was interesting to see someone bashing the seller for asking too much. Not sure what planet they are from. This is the same memory part number running in the system built in the LIAN LI O11D MINI V2. https://www.overclock.net/threads/g-skill-trident-z5-rgb-ddr5-8400-48gb-2-x-24gb-f5-8400j4052g24gx2-tz5rk.1820341/

And the cynical part of me wonders how many of these GPUs are stock they held back to create fake demand that were produced before the RAM prices got all effed up and now they are functioning as first-party scalpers, screwing their "customers" just because they can rather than passing on actual production costs as necessary to maintain an operationally viable profit margin. I have nothing to base it on, but my belief is all of them until there is evidence that proves otherwise. Hoping for the best, but always assuming the worst, is the best approach. (That assumption is frequently accurate.)

I have always held the opinion that Founders Edition GPUs are garbage, and the 50-series is their worst example to date. Tony reinforces it frequently in his videos. It seems like the engineers that design Founders Edition GPUs are always drunk or taking mind-altering drugs. Like my dad used to say "that piece of crap was designed by a drug Chinaman" LOL.

They make a trashy OS for stupid Kool-Aid drinking losers that are willing to put up with it. Why anyone would be willing to tolerate that is a mystery. How Micro$lop could expect anyone to is an even greater mystery. It seems obvious that they believe the users of their trashy OS are all very stupid people.

I only have the 6000 C26 V-Color dual rank kit that I never would have purchased had I known it was dual rank. It's unable to run above 6200. It's garbage and the only thing the dual rank seems to accomplish is limiting memory clock and adding latency. Not good. But, it totally makes sense that it would be the outcome. You've got twice as many memory chips for the CPU to manage, more circuits and traces, all of which contribute to hindering speed and taking more time for the data to go from point A to point B because it has to travel twice the distance. It doesn't work well like it did with DDR4 running at significantly lower speeds.

Here are some nice free to play internet arcade games.

None of them (NVIDIA or AMD) are genuinely good products that are priced to value. They're all grossly overpriced, flawed, poorly designed and compromised products that are destined for premature failure and fail to perform adequately based on what the pricetag suggests they should, including 5090. The current GPU market represents the most horrific example of poor value the world has ever seen. If something goes wrong, there is maybe a 10% chance your warranty will be honored, because the companies that build them are universally dishonest. Totally not worth the cost. The 4090 is better than 5080, but if you can even find one for sale it's nearly as overpriced as 5090 (double what an overpriced 5080 costs).

Yeah, 2200 over 2167 for sure Hey brother, good to see you. Nice setup! Yeah, I agree with you. I don't like the newer versions of Cinebench. R23 and R20 are both better IMHO. Now is the worst possible time to try to jump onto the 50 series bandwagon, but things are going to get worse before they get better. Maybe you can find a good 5080 or 5090 second hand from a trustworthy seller that isn't going to try to scam you.

If you want to see the difference 2200 FCLK makes, run Y-Cruncher 2.5B and look at the speed improvement compared to 2167.

Hybrid OC (or Dynamic Overclock Switcher aka as "DOS" in ASUS terminology). Basically tune your PBO to the best stable undervolt that gives the highest low core use clock speed for gaming (which is the only thing PBO is actually good for) and them set your per CCD manual overclock and VCore/VID and power switch threshold. If you followed the videos I shared with you previously to tune your PBO then the tedious part is over and the core overclocking is much easier. You will want to set LLC Level 6 or 7. LLC does not apply to PBO, only the manual OC. For the manual overclock switch I have all cores set at 54x for each CCD and 1.275V VCore and VID voltage. I have the switch threshold set for 120A, so it runs PBO clocks until the CPU pulls 120A, then switches to the manual OC. Using the video I shared with you for PBO per-core tuning, this is where I ended up with my per core PBO negative offset (which may not work well for your dual 3D cache CPU, but you can certainly test and see). I do not use Curve Shaper, only Curve Optimizer. Curve Shaper doesn't really do anything for me other than contribute to freezing while watching YouTube videos and web browsing and tuning Curve Optimizer properly is already a pain in the a$$ without complicating matters with Curve Shaper. For illustration, here are the settings I used with the 9950X in the X870E Apex for the hybrid/DOS daily driver settings. I later increased the switch threshold to 120A instead of using the ASUS recommended value (89A) in the "Prediction" window. In case you missed the post with the PBO tuning video, it is posted here. Do the PER CORE tuning (versus per CCD) to maximize your results. Otherwise, per CCD will limit your maximum stable negative offset to your WORST core on each CCD. When you tune the Curve Optimizer offset for the maxium negative offset each core can run stable, all of your cores will boost higher, the CPU will run cooler and be more stable. It's a pain in the butt, but worth the effort if you want the best overall result. Your best cores (that use less voltage) will likely handle less undervolt (negative CO offset) simply because they are already using less voltage by default. If you set all the same on one CCD your best cores will under-perform due to voltage starvation, or your system will be unstable (random lockups in light loads like web browsing and watching YouTube videos).

Unless the core overclocking is worse on the one that runs 2200 FCLK, I would keep that one and send back the one limited to 2167 FCLK. If memory serves me correctly, they are the same SP rating and have a similar V/F curve. The one that cannot run 2200 FCLK would end upl being your weakest link in the system and memory overclocking is the least important performance factor with Ryzen, and even less important with an X3D CPU. Being limited to 2167 tells you on face value that it has a weaker fabric interconnect and is the inferior sample of the two.

I just tested some of the Vallhalla PC Bifrost Alloy thermal paste (company owned by drajav at overclock.net) and it is a good thermal paste. I tested using the SFF living room build that has a 360 AIO. https://www.valhallapc.com/products/bifrost-alloy-thermal-paste