Mr. Fox

Hopefully we will both be around for the 50th. I think AI is here to stay. It's useful. I like it and use it. Like anything else, it can be abused and misused for nefarious purposes. It will be. Guaranteed. Probably already has been more than we even know. The same applies to guns, knives and baseball bats. None of them should be outlawed or banned. None of them are bad. Only the people that misuse them are. I do hope that NVIDIA, memory foundries, and all of their bedfellows will get severely burned financially. I do not need or want to be able sell my GPUs for an insane profit. They should lose value and become obsolete like the rest of the parts inside of a computer do. They should lose value the moment the box it opened. It's wrong and messed up that they sell for so many times more than they are actually worth and I hope that ASIC-type devices and other alternative technologies make them an obsolete poor choice and utterly destroy their marketability to be used for AI just as we saw with crypto. I hope that happens very soon and all of the stock bought up by AI farms get dumped and totally flood the market with millions of 5090 GPUs to make it impossible for new GPUs to be sold for prices near their original MSRP. There are probably millions of them sitting in warehouses that are still in factory-sealed boxes waiting for deployment when facilities go online. It would be awesome if they suddenly lost 75-80% of their value because of getting dumped on the market and NVIDIA couldn't sell any new GPUs because nobody needed to buy new.

Well, tomorrow (Sunday) Mrs. Fox and I celebrate 40 years of marital bliss. That does not even seem possible. Where did all of the time go? God blessed me with a good one... better than I deserve.

Hmm, I don't know. Something is off. Clevo had some verey strange things with their firmware and maybe the CPU is not properly recognized. Do you have a normal i7 CPU that you could install for testing to see if the problem is the same? I'm not sure what to suggest at this point. You might need help from @Prema if it is a firmware glitch. Yeah, Windoze and Winduhz is how I refer to Micro$lop OSes now. The slurs are just my personal way of showing them as little respect as they deserve for their crappy products at this point.

I also confirmed it with AI, LOL. Is voltage locked on Intel E5-1660 v2 CPU? No, the voltage is not locked on the Intel Xeon E5-1660 v2 processor. [1] The Intel Xeon E5-1600 series (v1, v2, and v3) are famous among hardware enthusiasts because they feature an unlocked multiplier and fully adjustable core voltages. This makes them function almost identically to consumer Core i7 Extreme Edition processors (like the Core i7-4960X) from the same Ivy Bridge-E era. [1, 2, 3] However, whether you can actually change the voltage depends heavily on your motherboard and software: Motherboard Compatibility: To adjust the core voltage (and multiplier), you must use a consumer-grade X79 chipset motherboard with an unlocked BIOS (such as those from ASUS, Gigabyte, or ASRock). If you put this CPU in a standard server or workstation motherboard (like a Dell Precision or HP Z-series), the motherboard's BIOS will lock out all overclocking and voltage options. A couple of random thoughts... If you are applying the voltage change in Windoze using software, don't. Try in the BIOS only (if you have not already). If I remember correctly there was something like the BIOS and clocks had to be left on Auto in the BIOS if you were using Windoze software to make changes. This was too long ago for me to remember clearly. I think you had to decide one or the other. If you made setting in the BIOS using software would cause issue. If you still have the firmware and have not tried flashing it again, give that a try. Maybe something got corrupted and a re-flash will fix it. I am not sure how much more I can help just because so much time has past. I am lucky if I can remember what I had for dinner last night.

I have not owned that CPU before, but it should not be locked. I suspect it is the firmware and not the CPU. Do you have an unlocked @Prema BIOS? It has been too long ago for me to remember clearly. It was about 10 or 11 years ago that I owned a P570, but if memory serves me correctly, Clevo had locked that thing down tighter than a gnat's rectum and you could do almost nothing with a stock BIOS. @Meaker might remember something as well. Have you tried using ThrottleStop or XTU to see if the voltage registers are locked with both of those as well? Edit: I see you do have a PremaMod BIOS.

I can understand it. This is what they are doing to all of us. Financial rape. Simple as that. They should watch out though. You know what they say about pay-back. (It starts with a "b" and ends with "itch" if you were not sure.) Companies that lie together die together. First EVGA. Now Galax. Wonder who comes next? Who will be left and who dumb enough to sell NVIDIA chips after the AI bubble breaks? Edit: https://community.hwbot.org/topic/248718-cpu-z-version-usage-limited-to-version-301-and-newer/#findComment-720971

https://community.hwbot.org/topic/247206-sneak-peek-at-cpu-z-300-validator-v3/page/2/#findComment-720965 https://community.hwbot.org/topic/248718-cpu-z-version-usage-limited-to-version-301-and-newer/#findComment-720963 Not a fan. Benching has been the only valid reason for me to keep a drive in my dual boot systems for Windoze and what changed with CPU-Z is another reason for me to continue with Linux as my primary OS and one less reason to waste a precious NVMe on Windoze. The new CPU-Z goes way beyond its original usefulness. It is bloated, buggy and collects information (and not accurately) that distracts from its original value. I wish it had been left alone. One less product for me to use for HWBOT submission than before. The shrinking list of acceptable benchmark tools and growing list of rules are making this sport less and less attractive at every turn.

Everything is turning into feces. Stupid is the new normal. Now even something as simple as CPU-Z is trash. https://valid.cpuid.com/gbjcws26 Look at the POS new Validator V3. Pure crap. For one, it's wrong. The SSDs that it cannot identify as partitioned are in use and functioning normally. For another thing, they are inserting themselves where they are NOT WELCOMED. It's none of their damned business what GPU driver I am using. It is a CPU tool, for pity's sake. That would not be acceptable even from GPU-Z. My submission is not valid because of the totally unrelated warnings about unpartitioned storage devices because these retarded morons are measuring things that are unrelated to the reason CPU-Z exists. Scroll down to the bottom. Look at the software section. Everything in it is none of their damned business, nor is it anyone elses that wants to look at the submission. They need to get back into their lane and stay there. Effing bastards. The inaccuracy calls them into question in a big way. The following are inaccurately reported: Unpartitioned storage device #1 - partitioned and functioning normal Unpartitioned storage device #2 - partitioned and functioning normal Windoze Defender: Enabled - wrong - it has been removed through OS modding Code Integrity: Enabled - wrong - it is disabled Fast Startup: Enabled - wrong - it is disabled

DDR5-9000 The Vengeance CUDIMM is non-RGB Chrome and fits the aesthetic of the black and chrome Unify-X nicely... until I strip them and put them on water.

So, I got another 8800 CUDIMM kit (Corsair Vengeance) to use in the Unify-X with the CPU I was given by Brother @Talon. I started studying Intel DDR5 memory tuning and learned something new using AI (with links to the points of reference authored by humans). tRTP and tWR should be left on "Auto" because the timings get jacked up. Instead, set tRDPRE instead of tRTP and tWRPRE instead of tWR. (This may apply to AMD as well, but I have not tested it. As you can see in the screenshot, setting tWRPRE to 48 instead of tWR is actually a tighter timing and tWR reads as -2 (left on Auto) and tRDPRE set to 20 reflects tRTP as 20 (left on Auto). This also lowered my latency on L3 Cache. To get tWR to equal 48 you set tWRPRE to 98 if tCWL is 40. You should increase tWRPRE if you want to achieve a target true tWR of 48. The formula Intel use for calculating tWR on DDR5 is: tWR=tWRPRE-tCWL-8 When you set tWRPRE directly to 48, the motherboard's BIOS calculates tWR by subtracting your Write Latency (tCWL) and the DDR5 burst length of 8. Because tCWL is typically equal to or slightly lower than your tCL (which is likely between 30 and 40 on a Z890 setup), subtracting it drops the real tWR value to essentially nothing (hence the -2 rendering or glitching out in your BIOS. What to set: To get a target tWR of 48, you need to work backward using your tCWL value: Formula: tWRPRE = 48 + tCWL + 8 Example 1: If your tCWL is 38, you would set tWRPRE to 94 (48 + 38 + 8). Example 2: If your tCWL is 40, you would set tWRPRE to 96 (48 + 40 + 8). Leave tWR on Auto, adjust tWRPRE upwards based on this formula, and verify in a tool like AsRock Timing Configurator or MemTweakIt that your effective tWR reports at your desired target. (I used Dragon Ball, obviously.)

Probably so. Unless it is priced like a 9950X3D2 (or worse). The thing I like a lot about the 270K Plus is that it performs better than 9950X at half the cost, and overclocks much better (both CPU and memory).

Good news for ASUS Z890 mobo owners. The latest version of Dragon Ball reads memory timings correctly, unlike the crappy new versions of ASRock Timing Configurator and ASUS MemTweakIt. There is also a new version for AMD available. I downloaded it for the Unify-X and was happy to see it worked for the Z890 Apex. The only thing I have missed from AMD ownership is ZenTimings and now that is a non-issue. https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?threads/msi-dragon-ball-and-dragon-power-for-z890.405338/post-2390679

Tux looks like he is going to eat that MSN butterfly.

Yes, it does. Just remember that it's better to look good than to feel good.

Nice to see both of you again. Glad you are still kicking. @D2ultima my oldest son is 37. He will be 38 in January. I will be 64 in January. Being old is a relative phenomenon.

Well said. Thank you for helping build this place for us.

A severely overpriced turdbook turdboard without a screen. Rubbish. The only question I would have for the buyer of one of those would be...

Not just an ugly case, but a piece of garbage. Very expensive piece of crap that is an extremely poor value.

My favorite comment on the video...

Hmm. I got to looking at what that first video mentioned about REA and found some free clones of PhotoShop, Acrobat and Premier created using AI. Interesting. https://getartcraft.com/apps I am testing them and they seem pretty good. PhotoCraft seems to function the same as PhotoShop without the learning curve of Gimp or Krita. Available for Windows and Linux, installer or portable.