Mr. Fox

Newer is always better newer.

If and when you are using a mobile device functionality is limited, even in desktop browser mode. Yeah, @Papusan a big, fat, two-handed nasty-finger salute to the Big Tech commie bastards across the globe. crApple, Micro$lop, Meta and their associated and subsidiary crime rings, Tik Tok, all of the Alphabet muppets show (including Google and YouTube) and all members of their circle-jerk of technology cartels deserve to have the bad things they do revisited upon them ten thousand-fold. I'm more than willing for us all to learn how to live in a world without any of them and their scummy, woke, data-stealing Nazi bullcrap. I'd love nothing more than to see all of them go bankrupt and be decimated over a span of a couple of days. It would present some temporary consequences of inconvenience for their co-dependent sheeple, but the world would be a better place without any of them. I put them in the same category as serial killers, sexual predators and pedophiles and wish all manner of unfortunate business calamities, legal tragedies, malicous attacks and fatal financial hardships be visited on all of them, swiftly and without mercy. The human race was much happier and healthier, and more intelligent, before their defective contributions to society emerged.

Yeah go for it. Grab the one on Amazon. I have not looked at pre-builts so I did not notice anything to recommend. That one from Amazon should be easily upgradable. As a general rule I would avoid an ASUS or MSI pre-built PC.

I would buy that one before the one at Best Buy for a lot of reasons. Better case (from what I can tell by the outside appearance) and DDR5 are just two of the reasons. That ASUS case is not going to support cooling upgrades and has poor airflow. As best I can tell from the photos, the one on Amazon is better overall.

It's cheap enough and definitely better than a laptop. Probably a good starting point to move away from turdbooks.

Check out this conversation, Brother @Papusan https://www.overclock.net/threads/official-asus-strix-maximus-z790-owners-thread.1800191/post-29325482

This is a fanboy product, not an enthusiast product. A performance PC enthusiast finds such behavior to be a deadly and unforgivable transgression. It doesn't even matter whether or not the product works well, it is still disgusting and unacceptable by design and an abomination. It is conceptually the same as buying a "sports car" with a powerful engine that cannot exceed the speed limit and cannot even burn rubber. But, it can go from zero to the speed limit very fast, LoL.

Yeah, I feel the same pretty much. I only buy Intel because it is the lesser of two evils in my opinion. Not because I like Intel. If I can be completely honest I hate Intel and AMD and NVIDIA. Could Intel get bad enough that AMD becomes the lesser of two evils? Absolutely. Are we there yet? Nope. Will I be willing to make the switch if that happens I don't know. I will cross that bridge if I reach it, but whether the answer is yes or no, it will not be a decision that I was pleased to make. It will be a compromise and I always hate compromises. Compromise means you have to lower your standards, change your mind or give something up. I don't like any of those things.

I like to avoid saying "never" because crow meat never tastes good, but I can honestly say I have no intention of purchasing anything from AMD again. I said that before, did it anyway and regretted it... more than once. I always say I don't care about brand and I genuinely do not. I have no love for Intel, AMD, NVIDIA or any other brand. Truthfully, I think they all suck. But, I do care about feeling as if I got screwed or purchased something that I later regret. Will I be stupid again and do something that is against my better judgment because I am passionate about high performance PC tuning? I certainly hope not and I don't intend to. If AMD later become the lesser of two evils, that leaves a few options. Do nothing and continue using old hardware, suck it up and choose the lesser evil even though you wouldn't otherwise, or just walk away from this hobby and never look back. I don't like spending money, even when it is for something I like a lot and end up spending it. I like spending money even less when I find out that I made a terrible mistake in doing so.

The good days are behind us now. In many ways that are not relevant to this thread or even technology in general. Stupidity, filthiness and wickedness are the new normals for the human race.

I agree. That is the part I suspect was deliberate to interfere with delidding. What they should do is offer an SKU with no IHS or a not attached IHS. All laptops and GPUs are bare die. There is no reason for AMD or Intel to use an IHS on their CPUs. I think the fact that they do, and not provide an option without it, is just super stupid. The only people that need an IHS to help avoid damage is those using DICE, LN2 and Cascade cooling.

Probably deliberate. I believe the der8auer and EK clone delid tool already pushes the IHS the length direction. I recently saw a video showing that. I think KitGuru maybe?

OK now that I let the water in the 360 AIO cool down overnight and my office is not 82°F it's working much better. Cinebench R24 does not work as efficiently on Linux as R23 does. Very close to the same score in Linux and Windows with Cinebench R23. With R24 the clock speeds dip due to the Linux power management governor being too aggressive.

OK now that I let the water in the 360 AIO cool down overnight and my office is not 82°F it's working much better. Cinebench R24 does not work as efficiently on Linux as R23 does. Very close to the same score in Linux and Windows with Cinebench R23. With R24 the clock speeds dip due to the Linux power management governor being too aggressive.

This isn't supposed to work, but Lutris makes it so. Slightly lower score than Windows, but to be expected. My little Munchkin work PC isn't designed for this kind of thermal torment and it definitely thermal throttled, LOL.

This isn't supposed to work, but Lutris makes it so. Slightly lower score than Windows, but to be expected. My little Munchkin work PC isn't designed for this kind of thermal torment and it definitely thermal throttled, LOL.

Yes, it was a slow download. Since it is a new release probably many downloads and system upgrades occurring.

This is what I was referring to. When you create the USB installer with Rufus, choose these options.

You can "try" Linux booting from the USB installer, but it is not fast, doesn't have GPU acceleration or persistent storage and software installation options. If you have a fast drive on a Type C or USB 3.X port I think you can install it to that type of drive but I have never had a reason to do it. @ryanyou can install Linux to the same drive as Windows and the Linux installer will walk you through installing "side by side" with Windows. No need to have an extra drive. Windows and Linux will work together fine that way. The downside is if you reinstall Windows the Redmond Reprobates will ruin the ability to boot Linux and you will have to jump through some hoops to make Linux/GRUB bootable again. It won't hurt the Linux installation, just ruin the bootloader. (Thanks, Micro$lop, for being control-freak losers.) I'd recommend going that route if you don't have internal space for a dedicated Linux drive. It's not difficult and Linux won't ruin your Windows installation like Windows does to Linux. While you are learning the ropes with Linux you are going to want the ability to dual boot use and Windows sometimes or you will end up frustrated and abandon the effort. If you are installing the 4TB SSD as a secondary drive you can carve out a 512GB space for Linux on that and during Linux installation tell Linux to boot itself from that drive, not the Windows drive and then Windows shouldn't mess with it. If Windows screws up GRUB, there are ways to fix it.

Be careful believing what Linux noobs say. Also note the age of that video. There are some useful comments like a reminder to disable compositing. Generally pay closer attention to experienced Linux users more than dabblers. Check this one.

It's really little different than installing Windows. Download an ISO of Kubuntu 24.04 LTS here: https://kubuntu.org/getkubuntu/ Use Rufus to burn the ISO. I use the format for MBR or UEFI when creating the ISO. Choosing this option should use GRUB2 bootloader instead of systemd (GRUB is better). Rufus may tell you it needs to download a newer version of GRUB 12.X bootloader. Let it do so. It will be automatic. (You can use Balena Etcher instead of Rufus, but I personally prefer Rufus. I do not recommend Balena Etcher.) This video has a quick overview... This shows an installation walk-through. Choose the option for proprietary drivers and it will install your NVIDIA drivers, WiFi, etc. It may have some features for your specific laptop brand. Do a full installation, not a minimal installation, and it will have everything you need to get started with multimedia players, codecs, etc. Choose a super easy password. I use 4 numbers and ignore the warning that it is not a complex password. This will be used for logon and for your admin (called sudo or root in Linux) password that you will have to enter whenever you do something that requires elevated rights. Keep it short and simple, like 0000 or 1111, or it will be annoying when you need to enter a password. GRUB bootloader will allow you to load Windows or Linux at the boot menu. As you can see here, the four flavors of Windows installed on my system can be launched from this menu. Linux allows you to boot Windows and other OSes using GRUB. Micro$lop Windoze Boot Manager does not let you boot Linux. Are you surprised? No, me neither. Once your install is finished, go to the software manager (Kubuntu uses "Discover Software Center" for the software library) and install Steam and GameHub. Linux Steam works and looks exactly like Windows Steam does. You can use your current Steam account. Configure Steam settings to use Proton Experimental. I would also recommend installing Lutris. It has a bit of a learning curve, but it is a WINE front end. I use it for installing Cinebench. Install GreenWithEnvy to control/overclock your NVIDIA GPU. https://gitlab.com/leinardi/gwe#-how-to-get-gwe To enable overclocking you have to run the command sudo nvidia-xconfig --cool-bits=24 in a terminal (like a command prompt). NVIDIA X Server is the Linux version of NVIDIA Control Panel

Just finished setting up my shiny new Kubuntu 24.04 LTS clean install and working on Steam game installations.

I am glad to hear you're fed up with their bull hockey. I am installing Windows games as we speak. SteamOS is a Linux distro. Stick with a Ubuntu derivative for the best compatibility. Ubuntu, Linux Mint, PopOS!, Kubuntu, etc. See what I posted here a long time ago. Steam Proton Experimental is awesome. And remember. You can install it alongside Windoze. It's doesn't have to be one or the other. Don't let yourself get frustrated. Take time to learn it and ask for help if you need it in one of the Linux treads. Lots of folks here ready to help. Here is Quake II RTX. Just installed it. It really is good. People that says they are sticking with Windoze so they can play games haven't taken time to investigate Linux. Maybe it never occurred to them that SteamOS is Linux, LOL. Crysis Remastered - RTX Enabled - High Settings ~275 FPS

And, here is my shiny new Kubuntu 24.04 LTS installation. Working good.

If you tear up Windoze too much it does hurt performance. It doesn't make sense and I am not sure why, but it probably has something to do with service dependencies and maybe Windoze trying to heal itself and can't. It seems like the more bloated and loaded with trash Winduhz gets, the more adverse it becomes if you debloat too much. It's just a poopy piece of junk OS. The best approach is to disable services in batches a few at a time and see how it affects your benchmark scores. If it goes up or stays the same, keep disabling services. If goes down, re-enable the last batch, then disable those in that batch one at a time and re-run your benchmarks to see if it is one service that needs to stay enabled. Many third-party applications hurt performance worse. This is especially true of the crap software that comes from motherboard manufacturers, and companies that make fancy hardware like Corsair, NZXT, Razer, Roccat, Logitech and others. Even HWiNFO64 and RTSS are more harmful to performance than they used to be. The EC monitoring and DDR5 monitoring sensors in HWiNFO64 steal CPU clock cycles and system memory. I disable those sensors when benching or just close HWiNFO64. Same for RTSS. Both are fine for gaming, but you don't want them running if you are trying to improve benchmark scores. In case you haven't seen it yet, here is an excellent review from Brother @Rage Set. Nice job, bro. Are you planning to continue using the air cooler on that 14900KS? Looks like it did an OK job running it stock with constrained performance. Corsair 6500X Case – iCUE LINK RX RGB Fans Review