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That's not bad on an air cooler and a POS Z690 motherboard. It's about what is to be expected. Once he gets his Z790/DDR5 combo (with what I will assume are stronger VRMs) and re-assembles his custom loop it will fly.

I noticed the newest versions no longer support many G.Skill modules including two sets of DDR5 I have. That is probably the reason why it was disabled or removed potentially. Xfinity ruled the roost here and still does to a degree. Fiber is rolling out ridiculously slow and Xfinity's pricing was atrocious along with data caps but suddenly when T-Mobile started offering unlimited Internet up to ~400-600mbps for ~$55/mo they suddenly dropped all their pricing in the mid to lower tiers drastically and made it unlimited. We're going to need Fiber to roll out here for the 1gbps+ packages to drop even further. They keep trying to tie you into all their legacy packages including a land line. I actually cut the cable a little over a year ago, cancelled Xfinity outright and switched to T-Mobile for 3-4 months and was getting 300-500mbps down, 50mbps up and saving almost $200/mo compared to my Triple Play BS. I went to the physical store to cancel and turn in my DVR and CM and when the CS asked what he could do to make me stay with them I said, "Give me unlimited 400-500mbps Internet for $50-60/mo" and the perplexed look on his face said it all as he said, "there is no way we can match that but if you sign up for Xfinity Mobile we might be able to offer a package deal that would bring that into range. How much do you pay for your Cell service?" I said, "$100/mo for 4 lines unlimited everything." And he just smiled and said, "I'll go ahead and cancel your Xfinity service." Right about 3 months in wiith T-Mobile, Xfinity shifted their pricing and bombarded me with "come back please!" and just like that they had a package that matched T-Mobile but obviously with much better latency than 5G so I switched back but only for Internet for $55.99/mo and here we are. Honestly, I don't feel much of a difference between my old 1.2gbps and 500mbps 99% of the time unless I'm installing a new game and even then I just set to download, minimize and go do other stuff. They give you a "free" Xfinity streaming box with all tiers of their Internet packages that basically is a glorified version of their DVR and you have to pay for everything to enable services on it. It has been sitting in my cabinet gathering dust since day one hook up when I realized it was just a means to try and get you to sign back up for their classic packages 2.0. I like being able to select which streaming services have enough content for me to turn back on for X months till the well runs dry and I can turn them back off. For example, AppleTV has been off since Feb. I just turned Paramount+ back on after 6 months. Netflix has been off officially for a year now. I'm getting ready to turn Disney+ off and let it build back up. I turned Peacock off last month and won't turn it back on till sometime next year. I do keep Hulu for Fox and ABC.

Newest version of OpenRGB supports many Asus systems and peripherals. Give it a try first for controlling RGB before installing AC garbage. I found with my Asus G18 it even supports it now so I could avoid AC completely. Only downside in classic Asus fashion is you NEED to have AC installed to enable full CPU turbo mode or you're capped at 115w....thanks Asus. I avoid Bios enabled AC and MyAsus and manually download drivers so I can pick and choose not only the drivers I want but the order of installation. Usually when you update your BIOS these conveniently toggle back to "on" you know....for your convenience. 🙄 Only after installing all my drivers and manual installs do I enable Windows update to pick up on anything I might need along with updates.

Unfortunately the F is cut down both hardware and BIOS wise a bit versus the E. 😞

I've always braced my GPUs since Ampere. I even have my Suprim X Liquid 4090 braced. Safety of course but the OCD part of me cringes at a sagging GPU. MSI and Asus follow the card / serial # not the user so their warranties transfer too. I just RMA'd a Ventus 3070 to MSI no problem third hand. Took three weeks but they sent me a new card. Outside of that, you're SOL for warranty transfers and you're at the mercy of the original buyer helping facilitate a repair or the OEM having mercy on you (good luck).

Ask and you shall receive! 🙂

Compared to the previous generation, it is definitely bad value....but not *as* bad so "suck it up and buy it" (Jensen mantra). I still think the 4070 and 4090 are the "not so bad" values out of the entire lot. Luckily at least AMD is putting some pressure on Nvidia to keep them somewhat honest in the lower tiers. I don't know what EVGA is doing but they are definitely focusing on the higher profit margins now both in products offered and shortened warranties. They could actually turn bigger profits overall focusing on high margin peripherals like Corsair. Maybe start to offer other items too. Motherboards and GPUs are tight margins and especially motherboards are lower volume items.

Looks like EVGA has removed all their GPUs from their store front except some 2060s and 700 series. They are also no longer selling directly mainly it seems but have links on their product listings to their product partners (mainly Newgg, Amazon, Microcenter, Canada Computers, Memory Express and Best Buy). Some B-Stock items are available direct No more customized shirts, mouse pads, etc... E1 case is gone. Z790 Dark isn't available anywhere but Z790 Classified is via....you guessed it...product partners. They are all about the PSUs, KB/M and coolers (in that order) now it seems.

The gap between the 4080 and 4090 is significantly larger than the 3080 and 3090. You will get a card right dab smack in the middle with 20GB of memory for $1199 and like it (Said in Jensen's voice 🙂 ).

If I were Nvidia, I'd use the Holidays to mark down the 4080 to $999 to clear (or at least lessen) inventory then slot in the 4080ti in Q1 2024 at the same MSRP as the 4080ti. Drop the 4080 officially to $999, slot in the 4080ti at $1199 (old 4080 MSRP), drop the 4070 to $499 to meet the 7800xt head to head,, 4070ti to $699 and 4060ti to $349 and $399 to combat the 7700xt but Nvidia is greedy so I only expect some of this to come true. 🙂 If they did the above, gain back some consumer love and really box AMD into a corner who has lost market share since the Cryto-demic era.

I've had none of those problems and our boards are the same and I'm now running the newest BIOS like you. This is having gone through three different sets of memory binning for the best set. I'm sure you've tested each component (RAM, CPU, GPU) at this point so like @Mr. Fox said I'd be wary of a bum board but also the GPU could be suspect and you did a clean install with controlled isolation of update shenanigans too. Any changes since the newest Adrenalin? I would set everything back to auto and if possible pop out the GPU or disable it at the very least and run integrated for a few days and see if anything happens. If everything runs fine, enable the GPU.

Did you run TM5 and WMD too? It might not be memory related. Random as in sitting on the desktop doing nothing or?

Thanks for the in depth testing @Mr. Fox! So basically high end thermal paste without the mess and works best on GPUs and laptops but for direct die and/or LM scenarios it doesn't stack up. I think this is basically the same results JayZ achieved comparing it to KPX but reusable and without the mess.

Jay Port Royal OC adventures with 2x Suprim's and being frustrated lol....

Is this stock hardware or did you upgrade to the M2200M? Was it working fine with the hardware as presented but recently started having issues?

I'll have to try both. I have plenty of laptops that could benefit from improved thermals and the paste sounds intriguing for my NH55. Do you use the paste on your desktops?

I just want to highlight this for later because we know once the binning bug hits you might show up with multiples! 🤣 I was hoping. 🙂 I know when new Intel/Nvidia top end goodies, I can rely on you to snag some so I can see results nice and early! I'm guilty too of being more excited about the RaspberryPi 5 too. 🙂 Hmmmm, I might have to pick some up. I've again had my collection of laptops grow along with other older laptop cooling projects too. The only downside is the greatest of thermal transfer compounds can't outpace an anemic heatsink design.

It's happening....... Who's getting one? I'm pretty sure @Talon will be snagging one. 🤣 Who else on the 17th?

Classic planned obsolescence. They can't just flat out cancel and abandon a previous OS like they want so forced migration by a thousand cuts....(See: XP) Ugh.... Thank you Intel and M$.... ...may I please have another? 🤣

LOL, after the "big reveal" of @HMScott, I figured it was a nice nugget to drop. 🤣 If...*IF*... Nvidia can harness AI and use it to assist or flat out replace traditional rendering techniques and produce equal or better results both in image quality and fps, I'm all for it. It is up to the rest of the industry to equal or best Nvidia with current and potential future AI rendering technologies using their traditional techniques along with RT and XESS/FSR or concede and implement their own AI driven technology. AMD is shifting to ML and AI focus as they can see the writing on the wall for pre-existing rapidly emerging industries and that may include traditional gaming and rendering down the road.

True, you might hope to find an Optimus block (good luck) or get a Bykski or Shyrrik which seem to be readily available for your KP 3090 @tps3443

Got a nice night session in of some desktop cleanup and benches along with tuning my Raptor X15 and corrupting my W11 install pushing it too hard on UV cache with the delidded copper topped 12900k 🤣 Finally passed out at 5am. Newest MSI x670e Carbon BIOS with the 7800X3D. Some basic runs w/ Windows 11 for baseline before a clean install. GPU at stock. CPU = CO @ -30 AC, +25mhz enhancement (!), tuned 6000 A-die. Timespy must have a bug because it said my 7800X3D under the CPU test momentarily hit 6.2ghz. 🤣

Scott Herkelman leaving AMD: https://videocardz.com/newz/scott-herkelman-announces-departure-from-amd And we now are getting Meteor Lake for desktop 2024.... https://videocardz.com/newz/intel-confirms-meteor-lake-is-coming-to-desktops-in-2024 With a ho hum 14th gen "refresh" and nothing from AMD, Intel or Nvidia on the horizon, settle in and enjoy your hardware. 🙂

Well you shoulda chimed in and said something so I could have updated the launch page sooner! 🤣 I haven't had much time to do anything with my X15 from that last delid and install. I didn't even re-adjust the tables for UV or anything so I was dragging it out to start working some more with it and thought, "I wonder if there's a heatsink for this yet if ever?" The great thing is unlike the X170SM/KM heatsink which is plenty beefy on its own so its version of this isn't that much better versus the NH55 OEM heatsink that is rather weak especially the CPU portion which is downright anemic.

Looks like there *might* be an after market CPU/GPU cooler for the NH55 finally: https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256805211337886.html?gatewayAdapt=glo2usa4itemAdapt