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Yep, exactly. If you're wanting to block it it is a non starter plus you still have your KPE 3090 too. I've played Fallout since launch 25yrs ago except for Vegas for some reason. I didn't start playing FO76 till August when a buddy of mine I found out has been playing since launch and said it has really come a long way. I had read the initial reviews, got some feedback from guild members and gave it a hard pass back in 2018/2019. I have to say I'm very much enjoying myself. I think 3 expansions have been released since launch so even 2-3 months later I'm still making my way through all the original content plus you get side tracked with side quests galore and tons of daily quests and objectives. I had to swap in a mod and adjust a few ini files to get this extreme resolution working (5120x1440) but it's working as intended now. 3800R curve is almost acceptable and makes sense to a degree. No way I could do a sub 2000R.

People who like, want and collect them are kicking themselves because they didn't believe Jacob when he said VERY limited run. (He actually capitalized the VERY in his tweet). They rarely, if ever, show up on Fleabay versus KPE 3090's which are in abundance as they were produced for over 18 months. They are no longer available even with the E1 frame as a pre-built. One that was found floating in stock on EVGA sold quickly and a forum member was irked because someone sniped it while he was checking out and that was just a week or two ago and that was at full $2k. I saw that listing earlier and it was up to 1650 already. I see it has grown. 🙂 It isn't even about it being just a 3090ti. You can go grab one of those anywhere. Oh, and yes I've contemplated selling mine if I pick up a 4090FE or MSI SuprimX Hybrid. If I ended up picking one of them up, I'd just list mine at $1999.99 -2099.99, make back everything I paid for it and still have a 1600w PSU that I needed anyhow. I'm in no rush though. My KPE 3090ti has zero coil whine and I can't emphasize how important that is to me. I don't want any downtime or GPU uncertainty with me and some friends fully engrossed in nightly Fallout 76 gaming and WoW Dragonflight dropping next month. I would definitely test out the 4090 if I picked one up before selling the KPE 3090ti. I'm a total tech member for BB so I get 60 day returns.

Ouch, any warranty left on the 2080ti? I've been a one monitor type of user unless I'm doing targeted dev work where I like a secondary display for compiled output especially in Swift. I JUST set this behemoth (49") up today to take for a whirl. 3800R so the curve is minimal but sheesh this is a different experience. I logged into my free level 1 on WoW since I haven't re-upped yet. I won't till two weeks before Dragonflight launches but I wanted to see if it supports the extreme resolution which is does (5120x1440). Fallout 76 doesn't support ultra wide at all but there is a user mod that is supposed to enable it so we'll see. I don't hate it but I'm not sold yet. It is G-Sync compatible and 144hz though.

50-70% but that is still a monster upgrade for games that will definitely at least remove some GPU saturation. Leaked synthetics for TSE show ~82% uplift between the 4090 and 3090 and that is best case and rarely if ever translates directly to games. 60% uplift in cuda to cuda 4090 vs 3090ti. Pure rasterization is going to be 50-70%....speculation of course. 🤪 The testing did show how X3D can be a liability if the cache can't hold all current assets for processing and you suffer massive drops. I wonder if 7000 series X3D will still be ~96mb or if they will go bigger and if so by how much? My main takeaway was how much performance you can get out of a sub $300 USD motherboard for X670. That is definitely the route I would go if building out. Get some cheap(ish) DDR5 sticks that top out around 6200-6400, that Gigabyte board and a 7950x when it eventually goes on sale which based on sales numbers and the 13900k right around the corner to rain on its parade even more will happen sooner than later. If someone had hopped on the Microcenter deal of a free kit of DDR5 ram with the purchase of a 7 or 9 series along with that Gigabyte board you would have a monster amount of savings especially if you could push the memory to at least 6000 baseline. Still find myself looking at the 4090FE and 4090 Suprim Hybrid.... 😁

lol, not horrible at all. Fixed the stutter/dip issue of the 5000 series and holds its own quite nicely. Let's see if the 4090 adds some much needed separation.

Max (relatively speaking) overclocks on 7950x, 5800X3D and 12900k gaming shootout (spoiler alert - Alderlake wins): Also more props to the Gigabyte X670 $289 board. I'm still looking forward to the X3D versions....

That is a beautiful motherboard, wow. Those aesthetics with a Founders edition (or killer WB) would look pretty righteous.

Has it been tested and verified in any other laptops out there?

Zen4 sales confirmed less than stellar.... again, hopefully a forebear of thing to come for other segments and a return at least a bit from pricing insanity. When Gigabyte X670 gives you the bulk of the performance you need at $289USD:

The change in size, power connectors, PCIe5 and more is the gift that keeps on giving to vendors across many facets. New cases, new motherboards, new PSUs to support that new hardware oh my! 🤑 All we would need now is a, "Runs Best on Windows 11" campaign to fully bring it home! 🙂

lol, only if you link the BIOS or a link to it without Prema's authorization..... 😁

That Asus 4090 Strix is a chonker! Leaked 4080 16GB synthetics....it is a decent card (~23% uplift in TSE, ~16% uplift in RT vs 3090ti) in its own right. This means the 4090 should just be an absolute monster and with the massive cuda separation between the 4090 and 4090ti this time around the 4090ti is going to be a behemoth! https://videocardz.com/newz/alleged-nvidia-geforce-rtx-4080-16gb-3dmark-benchmarks-have-been-leaked

Do you have any particular models in mind? My two favorite models are the 4090FE and the MSI Suprim Hybrid still. Colorful would carry no warranty over here for their Neptune which will probably be priced out of the stratosphere anyhow.

Exactly my thoughts. I'm going to sit back and wait. I'll just have to suck it up eventually before November 28th when WoW Dragonflight launches and break down my system and install the EVGA Z690 Classified vs pick up a 13900k and run both in tandem for awhile. X3D and KS are coming sooner than later in 2023.

Agreed, if the price is decent, I could see upgrading my daughter's P377SM from the woefully weak M1000M she uses now to it if possible. Either that or she will compromise and learn to adapt to a 15.6" display on this Acer Nitro 5 I have sitting on the shelf. She is like me though and prefers 17.3" displays.

Based on TS, 2080S is definitely more powerful even compared to the full power desktop 6600. 2080S even manhandles the 6600XT numerous times too. I was initially excited then saw the benchmarks and went, "ohhhh....nevermind"

Whew, the 4090FE is definitely a thicc boi.....I still love the design and look of it though:

They mentioned they're not doing AMD this go around, but depending on chipset longevity before a refresh you never know. I'd love to see a Dark and/or Classified X670 too.

Prema is only available on select models that were sold from Prema Partners. You could try contacting Prema directly for some help but the BIOS is not available for general distribution.

i7 = poorly binned i9. If you find some good silicon you can greatly increase your performance as the variance of 11th gen is pretty massive. The brief time I had an X170KM-G in the old forums, I popped in a cool hand luke and had no problems running CB23 with no throttling.

XMG as updated their BIOS for the "never say die" XMG Apex 15 Max and it now supports every 5000 series processor with the inclusion of the 5800X3D. https://bestware.com/en/xmg-apex-15-max.html While it is only powered with an integrated (boo!) 3060 or 3070, it is spitting out more fps than every other option for it:

How much are you willing to spend and what are your expectations? The Dom Platz look righteous though. I picked up a pair of Hynix sticks w/ heatsinks installed from gtz for sub $150 shipped because there is no way I'm dropping crazy money on DDR5 sticks this early in their maturation process. I did the same with DDR4 and DDR3 for the first few years after launch till they hit their stride then paid more.

When the real results come out you are going to see on average stock for stock (let's say 3090ti FE vs 4090 FE) a 50-70% depending on situation is my estimation. Either way, like I said before, it is a beefy uplift. Massively to me is 2x faster or more which it is not which is usually reserved for every other generation comparison (IE 2000 vs 4000, 1000 vs 3000). Gigabyte has introduced their Waterforce version of the 4090 for a full 360mm AIO based card (non hybrid), but I find myself still liking the MSI Suprim X 4090 AIO hybrid for some reason lol along with the Colorful. Depending on AMD and market conditions, I still feel like the 4090ti is going to be coming sooner than later, but we will see. This time around the TI moniker will pack a serious punch.

Depending on cooling method used and end goals, the severity varied. For joe user it wasn't enough of an issue to make it an official defect or problem. I've been running an Asus Z690 D4 for almost a year now with an AC LF II 420mm. I just took the CPU out the other day. Socket and CPU look fine, no problem but some have had issues with massive variance in thermal spread / pressure. When I eventually move this Z690 classified into the all EVGA build I do plan on removing the intel retention system and installing the 3rd party thermalright type retention bracket just because I happen to have 3 different models sitting here.

More like ~60% but that is still a pretty massive uplift. I'm equally interested in RT performance gains too. DLSS can kick rocks for all I care. Compared to your laptop 3060, almost anything in the desktop realm is a massive upgrade 3080 on up.