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For the few who reached out to me on eBay (and anyone else who sees this post, clicks the KM link, sees it is sold then messages me), the X170KM-G has now been sold to @DreDre2022 so both my SM and KM are sold, thanks!

MSI holding it down properly right up there with the HOF. I'm very happy with my Liquid X....even moreso after trying another one that was beyond poor and returning that one to Best Buy. 2835mhz out of the box and 3120mhz for gaming and benching? +1600 on the memory? No coil whine? Fantastic temps? Works for me. I can't begin to convey how much the 4080 is a non-starter for me but it IS a good card just priced outlandishly. If it came in even at $999.99 it would be a viable option in many scenarios. I don't think Nvidia wants to get rid of AIBs but they also have no problems competing directly with them either. AIBs will always offer options and looks Nvidia will not and there are buyers out there that shop on name brand and aesthetics too not just raw performance or bang:buck. Nvidia can't even keep up with demand for their own 4090FE.

I use demo/trials of just about everything. I'm just too darn cheap to unhinge the wallet. For example, I ran the demo of 3Dmark forever until they ran a 1.99 special one time to unlock everything a few years ago. 🙂

I know they have switched to sending out cheaper, single rank, poor secondary timing sticks now mostly vs their original god tier PnP sticks for DDR4, but I took a chance and picked up a set of OLOY sticks and scored a set of their original monsters: DDR4 3200 SODIMMS Testing OLOY 2x16GB sticks vs the former king of PnP sticks Kingston Impact 2x16GB sticks in an NH55: OLOY: IMPACT:

How to make the 7800X3D look as best as possible against a 13900k..... "What may be important to note is that both the 7800X3D and 13900K systems were equipped with the same DDR5-6000 memory kit." /facepalm

Does it do this too on an external display?

Ugh Crocs 2.0 🙂 Personally, one of my favorite things of this thread (amongst many) is you benching old GPUs on new hardware and seeing it pushed to their max.

I tried giving the unlocking BIOS feature a run provided by @ViktorV and while everything unlocked everything I do doesn't change anything for the memory timings. I tried XMP and custom XMP changes and nothing adjusts. I'm wondering if this BOXX BIOS (1.07.02) is suffering from the XMG plague and is incompatible with acknowledging the unlocking changes. What is the best, known BIOS to use with the KM to use with the KM to run the unlocker that is known to work? I'll give that one a try.

The actual design of the PCB of the Asrock is the best of all the 6900/6950xt cards. Over-engineered past what was really needed actually for most use cases (See: Suprim vs Trio or bottom barrel Gigabyte 4090). If Gigabyte slaps a higher boost on their 4090 vs a Suprim or HOF that doesn't mean its better. That is just marketing and sales tactics. Same applies here for XFX. They build some tank like cards but the actual PCB design is inferior to the Asrock. Even if it boosts 300mhz+ higher (exaggerating) the design still is inferior on a hardware level. Does that mean anything in the end? Maybe when pushed to the absolute extremes but it is what it is.

The actual PCB design and power delivery of the Asrock trumps all other cards including XFX. Factory issued boosts never tell the actual story of the silicon or board design.

Plus that is the best of the best class 6900xt card. The Asrock Formula OC 6900xt/6950xt have the best PCB design of them all (nevermind the beautiful aesthetics).

Shipped and on its way....🙂 Thanks again @1610ftw!

Nope, frequencies are locked down with the most recent BIOS to 4800. Even if you pop in some 5600 sticks, it will default to 4800. Asus says a BIOS update in the future MAY allow faster speeds.

X170SM-G complete system SOLD to @1610ftw!

Yeah it was pulling ~ 176.4w at stock:

X170SM-G system is tentatively sold....

That's a great picture of you two benching it out! 🙂

OMG, I saw the first set of pics and I immediately thought, "Johnksss looks a hell of a lot like Carl Weathers!" 🤣

BUMP.... I adjusted the total system buy price and config. I need room. Even having sold off 4 laptops I still have 6. I have both my KM and SM listed on eBay as complete systems here for $1599.99/ea KM: https://www.ebay.com/itm/175636232343 SM: https://www.ebay.com/itm/175636386845

I use TM5 and Windows Memory Diagnostics. You can throw in old school memtest in there if you like too.

I'm glad to see at least Asus breaking away from the forced pairing of top tier CPUs with top tier GPUs. There are many who want the best CPU and only need a mid to lower range GPU for their needs. Overall though the 4070 is disappointing compared to last gen 3070ti. If you want good GPU performance this time around (relatively speaking) it is the 4080 or 4090. They both greatly distance themselves from last gen GPUs. 4080 beats the 3080ti by 25-30% and the 4090 beats it by >50% but is expensive.

I see the 4070 version is $1999.99 direct from Asus available now. 4050 and 4060 models here but no pricing/availability specs yet but if the 4070 is $2k maybe $1800 for the 4060 and 1700 for the 4050? Wonderful time in the market atm since AMD is bringing the heat with their 7000 series of mobile processors Intel is going full tilt at better pricing this time around. The fact Asus is going to offer all the perks of their 18" Strix with consumer choice of GPU all the way down to the 4050 is pretty righteous.

And this is why Intel didn't hold back with top end 13th gen mobile processors this time around at even better pricing. AMD bringing the heat! https://www.notebookcheck.net/AMD-strikes-back-Ryzen-9-7945HX-beats-Intel-Core-i9-13980HX-despite-much-lower-power-consumption.698349.0.html Limiting it to 120w, 13980HX = ~28333, 7945HX = 34521 still. Note how for a brief moment the Apple M1/M2 chip was perceived as so good and now it is just getting destroyed in general compute tasks.

Asus has brought a full on 18" Ada powered, Raptor Lake drive laptop this time around for 2023. They are available in all Nvidia flavors from the 4050 up to the 4090 allowing users to determine their price range based on GPU/Mem/SSD with all models using Intel's top of the line i9-13980HX Raptor Lake based CPU with all other stats staying the same. Information, drivers and support How it looks: First impressions were poor as the stock install kept freezing and wouldn't allow any updates (Nvidia drivers) or changes. The real culprit is Armory Crate as always. After picking through the registry and services I just decided to give it a clean install. Make sure you're running BIOS G306 or later. Do yourself a service and enable BIOS control vs Amory Crate control in the BIOS and make your adjustments there. The only downside of not running Armory Crate is you get the default rainbow keyboard pattern but it is more than worth the trade off as you can undervolt and more right in the BIOS if needed. Fan noise under load is some of the best I've encountered. Definitely not quiet, but compared to my old MSI and Clevo's it is more than acceptable. There have been numerous reports of GPU coil whine and I can confirm it is there but nothing like a desktop GPU can produce (or my model happens to have a very low amount). Display is very nice but there is a lot of glow and bloom along the bottom. No bad/dead pixels so that's always nice. Keyboard is great and well spaced. I'm so used to Clevo X170SM/KM models that the G18 feels very light. Performance of the 4080 is great along with the 13980HX. It basically performs on par if not slightly better than my Desktop Strix 3080 + 12900k. Temps were good especially for multi as 11th, 12th and 13th still love to push single core to the sky at the cost of bouncing off of 100. I'll end up slowly working an undervolt in to see where I can adjust that while keeping Multi high as the unit topped out at 86c all stock running CB multi and sustained 120w no problem the entire run. Memory timings are as atrocious as expected with DDR5-4800 memory. It will be interesting to see how far it can go with 5600+ memory as they enter the market. Stock runs..... CB23 (not pictured, but single run = 2105). Timespy: AIDA64:

I saw this the other day and immediately thought of the episode with Howard and Raj too! 😁