*Official Benchmark Thread* - Post it here or it didn't happen :D

[Mr. Fox]

2 hours ago, electrosoft said:

Crazy how many are running 12th gen here now. We're just waiting on @Mr. Fox 😀

I've been unpredictable at times, and I seldom say never because I don't like the flavor of crow meat. The awesome-looking Cinebench scores are certainly tempting. But, I can't see myself spending ~$2000 for an upgrade anytime soon though. I've already blown enough money on PC garbage in the past 6 months to last me a couple of years and right now the thought of spending more and ending up regretful all over again for having done it makes me feel nauseous. The smartest purchase I made was buying the golden 10900K from Brother @Talon and we know how that ended. They say lightning never strikes twice in the same spot, but I think I should wait for the dark clouds to burn off before I go back outside again.

[Custom90gt]

Where did you guys get your Corsair 6200mhz stuff?  And do they have 6200 @ CL20? I'd love to pick up something besides this G.Skill kit but I'm not willing to shell out $600 for the 6400 stuff.

[electrosoft]

12 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

I've been unpredictable at times, and I seldom say never because I don't like the flavor of crow meat. The awesome-looking Cinebench scores are certainly tempting. But, I can't see myself spending ~$2000 for an upgrade anytime soon though. I've already blown enough money on PC garbage in the past 6 months to last me a couple of years and right now the thought of spending more and ending up regretful all over again for having done it makes me feel nauseous. The smartest purchase I made was buying the golden 10900K from Brother @Talon and we know how that ended. They say lightning never strikes twice in the same spot, but I think I should wait for the dark clouds to burn off before I go back outside again.

That was a crazy run of bad luck for sure. on many levels. Hopefully Mrs. Fox is doing much better too.

[Papusan]

I just downloaded the CORSAIR iCUE software. I'm in shock. A huge 811MB package for only changing fan speed and the colors is darn disgusting. This software is equal an big package as a bloated full Nvidia driver. Whats wrong with todays software engineers? Are they paid on hours basis as freelancers and more time they spend on the package make it more complicated than needed, the more they earn? @Mr. Fox

[Talon]

2 minutes ago, Papusan said:

I just downloaded the CORSAIR iCUE software. I'm in shock. A huge 811MB package for only changing fan speed and the colors is darn disgusting. This software is equal an big package as a bloated full Nvidia driver. Whats wrong with todays software engineers? Are they paid on hours basis as freelancers and more time they spend on the package make it more complicated than needed, the more they earn? @Mr. Fox

It's a really bloated software for sure. It will also hurt your benchmarks. If you need it, make sure you close that crap out completely when trying to bench. 

[electrosoft]

6 minutes ago, Papusan said:

I just downloaded the CORSAIR iCUE software. I'm in shock. A huge 811MB package for only changing fan speed and the colors is darn disgusting. This software is equal an big package as a bloated full Nvidia driver. Whats wrong with todays software engineers? Are they paid on hours basis as freelancers and more time they spend on the package make it more complicated than needed, the more they earn? @Mr. Fox

One reason I also abandoned their RGB memory in the wife's system. It would never retain the lighting settings and you had to run the software each and every time. I wrote a little script to run it on boot up and terminate but then it started having the memory just switch/turn off during normal use and wouldn't stay consistent unless the software was running.

 

ME: Yeah that software is pretty gross and bloated and most likely intrusive. Can't be any worse out there

*Asus Armory Crate has entered the chat*

 

[Papusan]

36 minutes ago, Talon said:

It's a really bloated software for sure. It will also hurt your benchmarks. If you need it, make sure you close that crap out completely when trying to bench. 

Yep. I disable everything I don't want running or just uninstall it. And not only for benching. I hate bloat. 

Look at this beauty. You can fry egg and bacon on these 480's😀 I don't need any kitchen oven, HaHa

[Rage Set]

5 hours ago, Custom90gt said:

Where did you guys get your Corsair 6200mhz stuff?  And do they have 6200 @ CL20? I'd love to pick up something besides this G.Skill kit but I'm not willing to shell out $600 for the 6400 stuff.

I got mine directly from Corsair. I haven't seen any 6200 CL20 and I'm not sure if any of these boards could handle those timings under normal air cooling. 

[Custom90gt]

1 hour ago, Rage Set said:

I got mine directly from Corsair. I haven't seen any 6200 CL20 and I'm not sure if any of these boards could handle those timings under normal air cooling. 

lol I was thinking @ CL32 not sure how I typed 20.  I did setup a return for my G.Skills since I have to add additional voltage just to get them stable at stock XMP.  I also ordered some OLOy Hynix 6200 @ CL32 so we will see how that goes.

[Mr. Fox]

2 hours ago, electrosoft said:

That was a crazy run of bad luck for sure. on many levels. Hopefully Mrs. Fox is doing much better too.

Thank you for asking. Mrs. Fox is on the mend, going to physical therapy three days per week as the fractures in her shoulder continue to heal.

[Mr. Fox]

1 hour ago, Papusan said:

Look at this beauty. You can fry egg and bacon on these 480's😀 I don't need any kitchen oven, HaHa

Dang, that is pretty skanky looking. Hard to imagine that level of neglect occurring, but it is not the first time I have seen it. Although, it is not usually something I would expect to see where it involves components one would find in a gamer's or overclocking enthusiast's system. I have only seen it really bad like that on systems owned by people that don't know anything technical about computers. Once upon a time, that was an enthusiast-level GPU.

[Papusan]

2 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

Dang, that is pretty skanky looking. Hard to imagine that level of neglect occurring, but it is not the first time I have seen it. Although, it is not usually something I would expect to see where it involves components one would find in a gamer's or overclocking enthusiast's system. I have only seen it really bad like that on systems owned by people that don't know anything technical about computers. Once upon a time, that was an enthusiast-level GPU.

I expect it's an enthusiast that had the card. It was infact two GTX 480 used in SLI so probably not the Average Joe. Also enthusiasts can also be sloppy regarding own HW/things. Many just throw it in the drawer once new cards is out. Money is not a problem for many. Buy new and then move on. They don't even bother try sell a 1 or two years old card on the used market. We often see used cards pop up on the used market that have lived a long life in the drawer before they try sell it for almost nothing. The use and throw reflect many of the  people living in todays community.

[Mr. Fox]

12 hours ago, electrosoft said:

ME: Yeah that software is pretty gross and bloated and most likely intrusive. Can't be any worse out there

*Asus Armory Crate has entered the chat*

iCUE seems like a lightweight portable app compared to the extreme over-the-top and utterly absurd level of bloatware garbage called Armory Crate. Filth on that order of magnitude should be illegal. The fact that it is UWP feces distributed through the Micro$lop Store makes it even more diabolical.

I have the Armory Crate digital dumpster installed on my work OS on Banshee. It has no less than 22 processes running in the background and it squanders gobs of memory and CPU cycles to support a butt-load of silly crap.

[Ashtrix]

5 hours ago, Papusan said:

I just downloaded the CORSAIR iCUE software. I'm in shock. A huge 811MB package for only changing fan speed and the colors is darn disgusting. This software is equal an big package as a bloated full Nvidia driver. Whats wrong with todays software engineers? Are they paid on hours basis as freelancers and more time they spend on the package make it more complicated than needed, the more they earn? @Mr. Fox

THIS is why we should avoid those trash RGB junk AIOs and etc peripherals as much as we can. They add pure bloat nonsense. Bro I bought Hyper X Alloy Origins, it has full metal AL chassis with no plastic in sight ultimate build quality with ZERO flex, removable USB C cable, fantastic keys using Cherry MX Red linear, on top a nice RGB light PLUS a software which allows to store the 3 profiles of your choice on the keyboard (this feature is not there on any Corsair, Razer, Steelseries or any company you need their bloat running).  Not even those custom KBs have such features. So you do not need any damn junk RGB software running on your machine. Well they had to screw it up. The damn software itself is UWP trash. Yep pure JUNK. And future is grim because garbage HP bought out HyperX brand. RIP.

Also I expect all new AIOs and new software will start this UWP soon. ASUS GarbageCrate is UWP, AWCC Is UWP, Nvidia CP is now UWP, AMD drivers will soon be UWP. Everything will become UWP only. Also Intel trash is all UWP and their new GPU will also be on UWP.

Good that Arctic LFII 420mm AIO is not having any reliance on software, earlier that EVGA CLC also I skipped because of the stupid software requirement. I do not like that at all being shackled to a damn Windows Software for basic needs.

Also I got the Apex Z590 brand new board from Newegg sadly it was having paint job qc issue on the damn LGA1200 backplate on the motherboard, like it has rough surface and a possible rusting (?)...a mess of QC by ASUS plus I also discovered one thing, Apex boards get them when they are released. ASUS makes them in less quantities, I got another one from Microcenter by driving an hour and guess what ? The screws look like they have been removed once I can see the wear marks. That box is brand new and it's even having new manuf date than the first one (you cannot check this on box, need to check S/N for ASUS warranty check to know that). So there's only one possibility it's an RMA Refurbished one that ASUS is selling Brand New. I suspect many brands do this.

Also congrats on the fantastic beast build, 1000D + SP92 chip I hope you enjoy benching the hell out of it...sadly the entire DDR5 is like snake oil as said by @Mr. Fox. Anyways I would love to see you do a custom loop down the line, many folks here esp moved away from NBs to Desktops and you were the last one of them who was still on DTR I think that feeling alone of having no BS restrictions itself is a big one, at-least we all can worry less about the Dead rotten market of Notebook junk BGA rubbish tech 🙂

 

[Mr. Fox]

8 minutes ago, Ashtrix said:

THIS is why we should avoid those trash RGB junk AIOs and fittings. They add pure bloat nonsense.

This is what happens when manufacturers confuse gamer kids with performance PC enthusiasts. They are as different as night and day. While it is possible to be both an avid gamer and a performance PC enthusiast, I think it is generally more common that the latter is both rather than the former. Gamers tend to focus on form more than function, and that shows in the mediocre specs found in the majority of the prebuilt "gaming desktops" and "gaming laptops" that many of us would view as pathetic novelty products that we would never waste money on.

[Mr. Fox]

7 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

I have the Armory Crate digital dumpster installed on my work OS on Banshee. It has no less than 22 processes running in the background and it squanders gobs of memory and CPU cycles to support a butt-load of silly crap.

Screensnip on the left is with all of the Armory Crate services stopped.
The one on the right is with all of the bloat running in the background.

[Custom90gt]

1 minute ago, Mr. Fox said:

I've heard it's a bear to uninstall too, like may as well just reinstall windows because that's 10x easier.

[Mr. Fox]

36 minutes ago, Custom90gt said:

I've heard it's a bear to uninstall too, like may as well just reinstall windows because that's 10x easier.

Yep. In fact, there is even a special uninstall tool that is needed to remove it that often requires you to run it, reboot and run it again. Unfortunately, they also intertwined Aura software into it and you can no longer install Aura RGB as a standalone utility that you run only on-demand. It is one of the most unforgivable sins that ASUSTeK has committed in the past few years that shows how idiotic and out of touch they have become. It is worse than the control center garbage that is common on laptops. It is like a virus. They no longer support the standalone Aura utility and I have found that the most recent (now unsupported) version of Aura will not even function on newer versions of Windows 10. It will still work flawlessly on Windows 7 and LTSC 2019, but will not launch on 20H2 or newer. (I have not tried it on any W10 versions between 1809 and 20H2.)

https://dlcdnets.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/14Utilities/Armoury_Crate_Uninstall_Tool.zip

Here is a good comparison to illustrate. The previously shared screenshot is my work OS and the one below is my personal use OS on the same computer. "Newer is better" LOL. NOT!

¡Armory Crate es un montón de mierda!

[Papusan]

Tried a bit with the G.Skill ram. All stock voltage. Tested with 6666-32-36-36-76 T2 (Trefi at 65535) and got my very first BSOD😀

The below one with 6666-32-37-37-86 T2 (Trefi at 65535) and stock voltage.

https://hwbot.org/submission/4925102_papusan_aida64___memory_read_ddr5_sdram_107820_points

Edit. My son saw the latency for DDR5. And he didn't like what he saw. he is an happy camper with DDR4. Not much to gain with DDR5.

https://hwbot.org/submission/4925140_papusan_wprime___1024m_core_i9_12900k_38sec_678ms

https://hwbot.org/submission/4925152_papusan_cinebench___r11.5_core_i9_12900k_52.82_cb?recalculate=true

https://hwbot.org/submission/4925127_papusan_cinebench___r20_core_i9_12900k_11516_cb?recalculate=true

 

 

 

 

[Maxware79]

On 2/3/2022 at 5:10 PM, Papusan said:

Thanks bro Normimb. When you get it well below 50% of prices new  you have done a good deal 🙂 Even the Evga 750 Ti I have fun with now will cost me zero cash when I sell it afterwards:) I paid $68 for  it and on  the web stores it cost around 280$. 

https://hwbot.org/submission/4919565_papusan_3dmark11___extreme_geforce_gtx_750_ti_2473_marks

 

https://hwbot.org/submission/4919559_papusan_3dmark03_geforce_gtx_750_ti_90977_marks

 

https://hwbot.org/submission/4919563_papusan_3dmark05_geforce_gtx_750_ti_48433_marks

 

https://hwbot.org/submission/4919564_papusan_3dmark06_geforce_gtx_750_ti_36219_marks

Love seeing a 3770K still getting a run!

[ssj92]

12 hours ago, Papusan said:

Yep. I disable everything I don't want running or just uninstall it. And not only for benching. I hate bloat. 

Look at this beauty. You can fry egg and bacon on these 480's😀 I don't need any kitchen oven, HaHa

My favorite GPU design 😍

 

I had two in SLI and then tried a third one back in the day. Maybe one of these days I'll pick two up for cheap and put them in a old rig for fun 

[johnksss]

On 2/8/2022 at 4:17 AM, Custom90gt said:

Where did you guys get your Corsair 6200mhz stuff?  And do they have 6200 @ CL20? I'd love to pick up something besides this G.Skill kit but I'm not willing to shell out $600 for the 6400 stuff.

More like 460.00 if your in the US

[Custom90gt]

1 minute ago, johnksss said:

More like 460.00 if your in the US

Where are you seeing G.Skill 6400 for $460?  I would jump on that in a heartbeat.

[johnksss]

18 minutes ago, Custom90gt said:

Where are you seeing G.Skill 6400 for $460?  I would jump on that in a heartbeat.

🤦‍♂️ Sorry bud, mine was 609.00. The 6K was 489.99

[Mr. Fox]

Looks like RockitCool has the 12th Gen delid kit now and temps are good. Sorry the author of the video has such an annoying personality and communication style.