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The new Assassins Creed Mirage is easier to run than the old one!!! 🤯And, it has DLSS, and looks better. But it’s butter smooth. I have both titles. This new one that just launched runs like a beast! My 1% lows are 105FPS at 4K Ultra graphics and DLSS quality. And I stay locked on 117FPS limit 95% of the time. Makes no sense at all. 
 

Anyone try it yet? It runs amazing! 

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7 hours ago, Raiderman said:

Yes, as soon as I hit the reply button to the above post, my screen went black, and rebooted. Fresh install of Win 10 22H2 LTSC. I leave my system running all weekend, and it will reboot for no reason. I figured I was having stability issues with the 8000mhz ram. I think I will set everything to auto in the bios, and see if it happens. This board has been a little sketchy for me, doing some weird stuff, like images showing the drive order in the bios being corrupted, not saving certain bios changes, hanging after hitting "save and reboot", resetting cmos not loading defaults.

 

3 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

That could be motherboard or GPU. But, the odd behavioral issues you mentioned make me think the motherboard is more likely. Has it been doing weird stuff all along, or recently started? If it started more recently, have you tried reflashing the BIOS? 

 

Can you find anything in Windows Event Viewer that occurs at the time of the reboot that might give you some clues?

 

I've had none of those problems and our boards are the same and I'm now running the newest BIOS like you. This is having gone through three different sets of memory binning for the best set.

 

I'm sure you've tested each component (RAM, CPU, GPU) at this point so like @Mr. Fox said I'd be wary of a bum board but also the GPU could be suspect and you did a clean install with controlled isolation of update shenanigans too.

 

Any changes since the newest Adrenalin?

 

I would set everything back to auto and if possible pop out the GPU or disable it at the very least and run integrated for a few days and see if anything happens.

 

If everything runs fine, enable the GPU.

 

 

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5 hours ago, tps3443 said:

The new Assassins Creed Mirage is easier to run than the old one!!! 🤯And, it has DLSS, and looks better. But it’s butter smooth. I have both titles. This new one that just launched runs like a beast! My 1% lows are 105FPS at 4K Ultra graphics and DLSS quality. And I stay locked on 117FPS limit 95% of the time. Makes no sense at all. 
 

Anyone try it yet? It runs amazing! 

if its included in ubisoft connect Ill download it and check it out, looks good graphically. I just ran a 24 hour stability temp test to see if im locked in with temps and stability, so after 24 hours of benchmarking forza horizon 5(another greatly optimised game) I stablised around 63c on gpu and cpu. this laptop cooler is insane, its the equiv of running LN on desktop.

 

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Beat this game 4 times, I like racing games and A couple FPSs but I never thought i'd play a game so much. this game is just super fun, not sure why I enjoy it so much

 

also forza motorsport comes out in 14hours and people are saying its the first truely next gen console game, and since we only get ports us pc players this should end up being the best looking game available. as for gameplay reviews are saying it plays well but performance isn't the best, very demanding game that needs a killer cpu

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8 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

That could be motherboard or GPU. But, the odd behavioral issues you mentioned make me think the motherboard is more likely. Has it been doing weird stuff all along, or recently started? If it started more recently, have you tried reflashing the BIOS? 

 

Can you find anything in Windows Event Viewer that occurs at the time of the reboot that might give you some clues?

It has always done weird stuff, and I've checked event viewer. It just says "system has had an unexpected shutdown" or something along those lines. It's been a pretty flaky board since I've had it. Some of the bios updates have actually helped it, like the last two updates eliminated the restart hang I was having.

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54 minutes ago, Raiderman said:

It has always done weird stuff, and I've checked event viewer. It just says "system has had an unexpected shutdown" or something along those lines. It's been a pretty flaky board since I've had it. Some of the bios updates have actually helped it, like the last two updates eliminated the restart hang I was having.

The fact that you only see the unexpected shutdown in Event Viewer also points to the motherboard.

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17 hours ago, Raiderman said:

@jaybee83@electrosoftSo, how is it that I am 10 loops stable with memtest64, but I get random restarts during a 24 hour period? Maybe its not a memory speed thing, and more of a bios thing still?

 

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16 hours ago, electrosoft said:

 

Did you run TM5 and WMD too?

 

It might not be memory related.

 

Random as in sitting on the desktop doing nothing or?

 

 

 

 

14 hours ago, Raiderman said:

Yes, as soon as I hit the reply button to the above post, my screen went black, and rebooted. Fresh install of Win 10 22H2 LTSC. I leave my system running all weekend, and it will reboot for no reason. I figured I was having stability issues with the 8000mhz ram. I think I will set everything to auto in the bios, and see if it happens. This board has been a little sketchy for me, doing some weird stuff, like images showing the drive order in the bios being corrupted, not saving certain bios changes, hanging after hitting "save and reboot", resetting cmos not loading defaults.

 

10 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

That could be motherboard or GPU. But, the odd behavioral issues you mentioned make me think the motherboard is more likely. Has it been doing weird stuff all along, or recently started? If it started more recently, have you tried reflashing the BIOS? 

 

Can you find anything in Windows Event Viewer that occurs at the time of the reboot that might give you some clues?

 

7 hours ago, electrosoft said:

 

 

I've had none of those problems and our boards are the same and I'm now running the newest BIOS like you. This is having gone through three different sets of memory binning for the best set.

 

I'm sure you've tested each component (RAM, CPU, GPU) at this point so like @Mr. Fox said I'd be wary of a bum board but also the GPU could be suspect and you did a clean install with controlled isolation of update shenanigans too.

 

Any changes since the newest Adrenalin?

 

I would set everything back to auto and if possible pop out the GPU or disable it at the very least and run integrated for a few days and see if anything happens.

 

If everything runs fine, enable the GPU.

That is good advice about the iGPU testing. If the problem remains, mobo. If it fixes it, GPU.


I don't game a ton, but when I do it is often a benchmarking venture to see what I can get away with. I played BF 2042 for a couple of hours today to test my system "game stability" with the CPU and memory overclock. Buttery smooth with maxed out settings at 4K and the 4090 stock. CPU set for P-Cores 60x8, E-Cores 48x16, Cache 50x and memory at 8000 CL34-48-48-48-2T.

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On 10/8/2023 at 2:06 PM, cylix said:

Nice prices😁. So now the i5 costs like an i7 from last gen. This is NOT the way🙄

 

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Intel Core i9-14900K Listed by UK PC Components Retailer

 

Core i9-14900K - £578 (incl 20% tax) - $586 (without tax)

 

Core i5-14600K - £320 (incl 20% tax) - $326 (without tax) 🙄

 

On 10/8/2023 at 5:37 PM, Mr. Fox said:

Nothing would surprise me in this regard, but it would be premature to assume the prices posted by this particular store exemplifies what normal prices will be. Scalping is the new normal and getting screwed with above MSRP pricing has become common because stupid people pay stupid prices to get what they want when they want it. That is as sad and pathetic as the scalping, and perpetuates the problem.

 

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6 hours ago, ryan said:

if its included in ubisoft connect Ill download it and check it out, looks good graphically. I just ran a 24 hour stability temp test to see if im locked in with temps and stability, so after 24 hours of benchmarking forza horizon 5(another greatly optimised game) I stablised around 63c on gpu and cpu. this laptop cooler is insane, its the equiv of running LN on desktop.

 

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Beat this game 4 times, I like racing games and A couple FPSs but I never thought i'd play a game so much. this game is just super fun, not sure why I enjoy it so much

 

also forza motorsport comes out in 14hours and people are saying its the first truely next gen console game, and since we only get ports us pc players this should end up being the best looking game available. as for gameplay reviews are saying it plays well but performance isn't the best, very demanding game that needs a killer cpu


The Assassins Creed Mirage is on Ubisoft Connect, and the game is easy to run, you shouldn’t have any trouble. 

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I was going to buy connect, but my car insurance and other things happened this morning lol worst timing ever. happened when I wanted a NUC or a chrome book. bought a tablet and unexpected things arised and had to take back the tablet. real pain. but on friday ill get connect and check it out looks gorgeous. I love it when games look great and perform well its satisfying benchmarking them and if the game is fun playing it.

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Isn't it nice bro @Mr. Fox If you jumped on the 4080 you'll be screwed two times. First time you pay 72% more over 3080. Then you'll loose several hundreds of $$$ when you sell it within it's useful lfespan (2 years). So double screwed, LOOL

 

Yup, the 4080 is the worst card you could jump on. And with the 4080Ti arond the corner it will be even an worse deal. Good job Nvidia.

 

 

 

@electrosoft I can't grasp why nvidia would release 4080Ti after new year. No one will buy any of the4080 if this rumors are correct. The sales will go further down the drain. Why not release the 4080Ti at end of November to take more of the AMD 7900XTX sales in the Christmas/New year hollidays season? And a 900$ 4080 would also be much easier to up-sell in the Holidays. Is it because the AIC partners have their shelves full of un-sold 4080s at +1200$ ? Hmm

 

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Yet another failed product that struggle to power up new modern AMD graphics cards. Do they all hate AMD?

 

Only 5x PCIe 8-pin power connectors. 3 for the MB then you have two for the GPU. Then nothing. There is a few Radeon 7900XTX that have 3x8-pins. Then you are forced to use the unwanted pigtail setup with the drawback as dropping voltage on one of the rails. And god forbid you if you want 8 pins connectors to power other peripherals. Nice with new modern tech.

 

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7 hours ago, ryan said:

I was going to buy connect, but my car insurance and other things happened this morning lol worst timing ever. happened when I wanted a NUC or a chrome book. bought a tablet and unexpected things arised and had to take back the tablet. real pain. but on friday ill get connect and check it out looks gorgeous. I love it when games look great and perform well its satisfying benchmarking them and if the game is fun playing it.


Things are so expensive nowadays. I love buying small bits here and there for my PC, Mostly watercooling stuff when I can afford it. But, most of the time I’m pinching pennie’s 😂 when I buy these things. But I know what you mean. 

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5 hours ago, Papusan said:

Isn't it nice bro @Mr. Fox If you jumped on the 4080 you'll be screwed two times. First time you pay 72% more over 3080. Then you'll loose several hundreds of $$$ when you sell it within it's useful lfespan (2 years). So double screwed, LOOL

 

Yup, the 4080 is the worst card you could jump on. And with the 4080Ti arond the corner it will be even an worse deal. Good job Nvidia.

 

 

 

@electrosoft I can't grasp why nvidia would release 4080Ti after new year. No one will buy any of the4080 if this rumors are correct. The sales will go further down the drain. Why not release the 4080Ti at end of November to take more of the AMD 7900XTX sales in the Christmas/New year hollidays season? And a 900$ 4080 would also be much easier to up-sell in the Holidays. Is it because the AIC partners have their shelves full of un-sold 4080s at +1200$ ? Hmm

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If I were Nvidia, I'd use the Holidays to mark down the 4080 to $999 to clear (or at least lessen) inventory then slot in the 4080ti in Q1 2024 at the same MSRP as the 4080ti.

 

Drop the 4080 officially to $999, slot in the 4080ti at $1199 (old 4080 MSRP), drop the 4070 to $499 to meet the 7800xt head to head,, 4070ti to $699 and 4060ti to $349 and $399 to combat the 7700xt but Nvidia is greedy so I only expect some of this to come true. 🙂

 

If they did the above, gain back some consumer love and really box AMD into a corner who has lost market share since the Cryto-demic era.

 

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16 minutes ago, electrosoft said:

 

If I were Nvidia, I'd use the Holidays to mark down the 4080 to $999 to clear (or at least lessen) inventory then slot in the 4080ti in Q1 2024 at the same MSRP as the 4080ti.

 

Drop the 4080 officially to $999, slot in the 4080ti at $1199 (old 4080 MSRP), drop the 4070 to $499 to meet the 7800xt head to head,, 4070ti to $699 and 4060ti to $349 and $399 to combat the 7700xt but Nvidia is greedy so I only expect some of this to come true. 🙂

 

If they did the above, gain back some consumer love and really box AMD into a corner who has lost market share since the Cryto-demic era.

 


The 4080Ti would be sweet! I hope Nvidia makes it almost a full power 4090. They may as well for $1,200 dollars. They should not cut vram at all.

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The 4080Ti would be sweet! I hope Nvidia makes it almost a full power 4090. They may as well for $1,200 dollars. They should not cut vram at all.

 

The gap between the 4080 and 4090 is significantly larger than the 3080 and 3090. You will get a card right dab smack in the middle with 20GB of memory for $1199 and like it (Said in Jensen's voice 🙂 ).

 

 

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Looks like EVGA has removed all their GPUs from their store front except some 2060s and 700 series. They are also no longer selling directly mainly it seems but have links on their product listings to their product partners (mainly Newgg, Amazon, Microcenter, Canada Computers, Memory Express and Best Buy).

 

Some B-Stock items are available direct

 

No more customized shirts, mouse pads, etc...

 

E1 case is gone. Z790 Dark isn't available anywhere but Z790 Classified is via....you guessed it...product partners.

 

They are all about the PSUs, KB/M and coolers (in that order) now it seems.

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On 10/7/2023 at 2:50 AM, Rage Set said:

 

On one hand, I am happy that AMD is supporting their past hardware with new features that aren't "hardware limited", on the other hand I want them to fix the issues that have been plaguing their cards for months now. 

 

If @Mr. Fox ever gets tired of the 6900XT and AMD, let me know. If I can't get a 7900XTX or 4090 for a good price, I will be searching for a 69XX XT card again. 

 

what kinda pricing are you aiming for? are your also considering refurbs or second hand with warranty? just curious 🙂 

 

On 10/7/2023 at 10:18 PM, Rage Set said:

So. Is Nvidia going to release refreshed cards or not? Most of the rumors up till now claims they weren't going to release anything to best the 4090 until 50 series...and I thought that was odd (yes even in today's economy). 

 

 

I guess I will wait until the new year to make a decision. 

 

welp, nothing really changed with regards to the 4090, exactly because of no competition at the perf. level. but the 7900XTX is trading blows with the 4080, sooooo a 4080 Ti makes sense here (for Ngreedia).

 

On 10/7/2023 at 11:03 PM, Mr. Fox said:

I really am looking forward to seeing how Battlemage works out. 

 

If I were buying a GPU today and wanted the best performance, 4090 is the only logical option. The price is idiotic, even for the cheapest one, but still "worth it" in the general sense that it is better to overpay for something good than to overpay for something not so good. If I could not purchase a 4090, the next option would be 4080 if I needed one today. It is a poor value and I would try very hard to come up with the extra $400-$500 to purchase a 4090 instead. But, I would not even consider the other options new and I would settle for something used from last generation rather than settle for an AMD GPU or something castrated like a 4070 Ti scam product.


Well, Kryosheet is crap. Doesn't work worth a damn,  unless you think normal high end thermal pastes are good. In that case it is probably awesome. It just can't handle an overclocked 13900KS at all. It performs on par with popular thermal pastes, which is unacceptable for an overclocked CPU. I view it as a totally unusable product for that. I saved it with zero damage and may try it on my laptop someday when I run out of things to do. @Papusanyou were curious. How 'bout no, LOL.

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Brother @Talonsent me a tube of Honeywell PTM7958. Thank you so much! It performs about the same as KPX or other popular thermal pastes. So, yeah... not good enough for an overclocked 13900KS. It performed almost exactly the same as the Kryosheet. So, back to the liquid metal. No other good option available.

 

This stuff was not fun to spread. It is like clay, softened wax or softened kneaded eraser, and it takes a lot of pressure to even get it out of the syringe. It is not very sticky. It is much firmer than the thermal putty EVGA used on the 3090 KPE VRMs. I did spread it and got excellent coverage. It will be amazing for a laptop or a GPU that doesn't pull as many watts. There is no question in my mind that it will be durable, and the perfect solution for sloppy-fitting turdbook heat sinks. This is perfect for that. It is easily removed using a thermal paste spatula. It comes off like soft wax. When I need to repaste the 4090 I will probably use the PTM7958 paste. The pad equivalent worked amazing on the 6900 XT and the 4090 doesn't get nearly as hot as the 6900 XT. Removing my water block, it pulled the CPU (that was taped down for bare die) out of the socket. It suck well enough that the tape could not hold it down.

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I got it more than hot enough to melt, and it absolutely melted and got phenomenal coverage. I let my system cool overnight to normalize with ambient temperature and tried it again this morning and the temps were as unacceptable as they were last night. I did not save a screenshot. I must have forgotten. But, there's nothing to see. Look at the Kryosheet temps (above) and shuffle the core order and that's what it was. Same thing basically. 

 

kool writeup bud, thanks for the data 🙂 no surprise there tho that LM still reigns supreme 😄 point of the kryosheet is the fire and forget strategy plus no risk of corrosion / leaking leading to shorts. i could imagine that being good selling points for a lot of people.

 

On 10/8/2023 at 2:06 PM, cylix said:

Nice prices😁. So now the i5 costs like an i7 from last gen. This is NOT the way🙄

 

https://videocardz.com/newz/intel-core-i9-14900k-and-i5-14600k-cpus-listed-by-spanish-retailer

 

too early to tell, usually those "first online shop prices" are way above the regular availability pricing. hoping for the best, expecting the worst as usual! 😄 

 

On 10/8/2023 at 10:12 PM, Raiderman said:

@jaybee83@electrosoftSo, how is it that I am 10 loops stable with memtest64, but I get random restarts during a 24 hour period? Maybe its not a memory speed thing, and more of a bios thing still?

 

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On 10/9/2023 at 12:31 AM, Raiderman said:

Yes, as soon as I hit the reply button to the above post, my screen went black, and rebooted. Fresh install of Win 10 22H2 LTSC. I leave my system running all weekend, and it will reboot for no reason. I figured I was having stability issues with the 8000mhz ram. I think I will set everything to auto in the bios, and see if it happens. This board has been a little sketchy for me, doing some weird stuff, like images showing the drive order in the bios being corrupted, not saving certain bios changes, hanging after hitting "save and reboot", resetting cmos not loading defaults.

 

huh, this is indeed some funky behaviour (which is to be expected with RAM tuning 😄). as others have already suggested, i would check with TM5 (anta777 absolut), as well to verify RAM stability. also be sure u set everything else to stock, especially CPU. GPU is more unlikely in my opionion, but better to be safe than sorry. also good idea with setting everything to "Auto" in the Bios, in combination with a bios reflash and cmos reset. ive read about some instances where some bios settings would retain their last manual values even when reset to Auto. keep us updated on how things go!

 

in the meantime, im currently in the last stretch of 6200 Mhz tuning (tightening timings one by one and verifying stability). next step will be max clocks at 2:1 ratio. ill give 8000 mhz another shot, but willing to downclock to 7800 at tightened timings if i cant get it stable otherwise.

 

8 hours ago, Papusan said:

Isn't it nice bro @Mr. Fox If you jumped on the 4080 you'll be screwed two times. First time you pay 72% more over 3080. Then you'll loose several hundreds of $$$ when you sell it within it's useful lfespan (2 years). So double screwed, LOOL

 

Yup, the 4080 is the worst card you could jump on. And with the 4080Ti arond the corner it will be even an worse deal. Good job Nvidia.

 

 

 

@electrosoft I can't grasp why nvidia would release 4080Ti after new year. No one will buy any of the4080 if this rumors are correct. The sales will go further down the drain. Why not release the 4080Ti at end of November to take more of the AMD 7900XTX sales in the Christmas/New year hollidays season? And a 900$ 4080 would also be much easier to up-sell in the Holidays. Is it because the AIC partners have their shelves full of un-sold 4080s at +1200$ ? Hmm

 

 

Only 5x PCIe 8-pin power connectors. 3 for the MB then you have two for the GPU. Then nothing. There is a few Radeon 7900XTX that have 3x8-pins. Then you are forced to use the unwanted pigtail setup with the drawback as dropping voltage on one of the rails. And god forbid you if you want 8 pins connectors to power other peripherals. Nice with new modern tech.

 

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https://www.ocinside.de/test/seasonic_vertex_gx_850_d/3/

 

welp to be fair, an 850W PSU can nowadays be considered "midrange" and not highend anymore 😄 so nobody in their right mind would pair a midrange PSU with a highend GPU, right? so cant expect it to have a full range of connectors, they gotta cut costs somewhere.

 

2 hours ago, electrosoft said:

 

If I were Nvidia, I'd use the Holidays to mark down the 4080 to $999 to clear (or at least lessen) inventory then slot in the 4080ti in Q1 2024 at the same MSRP as the 4080ti.

 

Drop the 4080 officially to $999, slot in the 4080ti at $1199 (old 4080 MSRP), drop the 4070 to $499 to meet the 7800xt head to head,, 4070ti to $699 and 4060ti to $349 and $399 to combat the 7700xt but Nvidia is greedy so I only expect some of this to come true. 🙂

 

If they did the above, gain back some consumer love and really box AMD into a corner who has lost market share since the Cryto-demic era.

 

 

sure sure, but then Ngreedia would LOSE MONEY. theyll probably just slap a 1400-1500 USD price tag on the 4080 Ti, not change ANYTHING ELSE in their lineup and call it a day lulz

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Can't do much for $1,000 USD or CAD. But, I guess it depends on what you are wanting to accomplish. Better than a turdbook, for sure. Funny what he said about getting trash RAM from Amazon and NewEgg that mirrors my experience. I have RMA'd waaayyy too many garbage RAM kits. His observations about naked stick being better than crap RAM heating blankets is 100% aligned with my experience. The factory thermal solutions are trash that ruin stability.

 

 

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So, in a completely unlike me turn of events, my first post here is to drop a benchmark result! I'm also actually on a desktop as of this year =O

 

I gots this Time Spy result earlier https://www.3dmark.com/spy/42181815

 

And we got a picture for proof

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And apparently, this somehow makes me a grand total of rank 6th in the world for this hardware combination! Yay!

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@Mr. Foxhere are you proud? I actually benchmarked xD

 

This is with a Founder's Edition 3080 btw, stock vBIOS and stock cooler

 

 

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1 hour ago, D2ultima said:

So, in a completely unlike me turn of events, my first post here is to drop a benchmark result! I'm also actually on a desktop as of this year =O

 

I gots this Time Spy result earlier https://www.3dmark.com/spy/42181815

 

And we got a picture for proof

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And apparently, this somehow makes me a grand total of rank 6th in the world for this hardware combination! Yay!

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@Mr. Foxhere are you proud? I actually benchmarked xD

 

This is with a Founder's Edition 3080 btw, stock vBIOS and stock cooler

 

 

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23 hours ago, electrosoft said:

 

If I were Nvidia, I'd use the Holidays to mark down the 4080 to $999 to clear (or at least lessen) inventory then slot in the 4080ti in Q1 2024 at the same MSRP as the 4080ti.

 

Drop the 4080 officially to $999, slot in the 4080ti at $1199 (old 4080 MSRP), drop the 4070 to $499 to meet the 7800xt head to head,, 4070ti to $699 and 4060ti to $349 and $399 to combat the 7700xt but Nvidia is greedy so I only expect some of this to come true. 🙂

 

If they did the above, gain back some consumer love and really box AMD into a corner who has lost market share since the Cryto-demic era.

 

#4080 officially down to $999 is still bad value#. 42% above 3080 is awful. 4090 is 7% above 3090 and this should be the same for all Nvidias graphics SKUs. So no thanks. Still 35% too expensive.  

 

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21 hours ago, electrosoft said:

Looks like EVGA has removed all their GPUs from their store front except some 2060s and 700 series. They are also no longer selling directly mainly it seems but have links on their product listings to their product partners (mainly Newgg, Amazon, Microcenter, Canada Computers, Memory Express and Best Buy).

 

Some B-Stock items are available direct

 

No more customized shirts, mouse pads, etc...

 

E1 case is gone. Z790 Dark isn't available anywhere but Z790 Classified is via....you guessed it...product partners.

 

They are all about the PSUs, KB/M and coolers (in that order) now it seems.

 

"They are all about the PSUs, KB/M and coolers (in that order) now it seems".Evga have cheaped out and moved to 3 years warranty for their mid tier PSUs. That's worse than many other of the cheaper brands who offer 5 years warranty on PSUs that cost less than the one you get from Evga. EVGA is Dead. And maybe 3 years warranty match when they are out of business?

 

14 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

 

 

Thanks for posting the video. And very nice to see our old good friends @d2ultima and @DrAMK replied on your video. 

 

Edit. @D2ultimaWellcome to new NBR. Nice to see you. And I hope @DrAMK join us as well 🙂

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MOOOORE PUMPAZZZZZ please!!! Yes I will take more Pumps!!! 
 

I will fill every mounting hole on my test bench with pumps 🤣

 

My temps are just stupid. 23C@400watts@2,205 with zero fans? Yes please! 
 

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1 hour ago, Papusan said:

 @D2ultimaWellcome to new NBR. Nice to see you. And I hope @DrAMK join us as well 🙂

 

4 hours ago, Reciever said:

Good seeing you around! 

 

yes, I didn't remember the forum and NBR had closed, but Mr. Fox gave me the link earlier today after I saw one of his videos on youtube. So hello, apparently I am an overclocker now

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Everyone know 4060 offer bad value. And Nvidia want to rub it in. You "stupids" who bought this overpriced 128bit scam (in short 4050 card) isn't worthy getting the free bundle with Alan Wake 2. You went too cheapo for Nvidia CEO Jensen's taste(You are not an Graphics entusiast), hence Nvidia want to screw you a second time, LOOL

 

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Intel’s new driver boost Starfield performance by up to 149%, adds Arc A580 support

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[PC ONLY] Improved stability for Intel Arc GPUs.
Various additional stability and performance improvements.

 

But, but Bethesda support team said  that Intel Arc graphics cards didn't fulfill Starfield minimum HW requirements, so not much could be done with Intel's new graphics cards... Hmmm, how thing have changed, HaHa

 

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2 hours ago, Papusan said:

But, but Bethesda Bugthesda support team said  that Intel Arc graphics cards didn't fulfill Starfield minimum HW requirements, so not much could be done with Intel's new graphics cards

 

Don't you know? We're all supposed to have i9-16900KS chips at 8GHz or R7 9960X3Ds at 7GHz along with 6090Tis and RX 9900XXTXTXX cards to run it at 1440p 144fps without FSR 2, it's not their fault that we don't have time machines to get them right away! Their game is optimized, they PROMISE! That's why it runs worse than while also looking worse than Cyberpunk 2077 which came out 3 years ago.

 

Also, fixed your typo. Lots of people forget their name is Bugthesda and misspell it by saying "Bethesda".

 

Did you miss me, Papusan?

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