*Official Benchmark Thread* - Post it here or it didn't happen :D

[Talon]

18 minutes ago, electrosoft said:

LOL, in my defense I'm sure @Talon will be the first out of the block with a 5090! 🤣

 

Already preordered, shipment locked down. 😄

[saturnotaku]

The 4070 Super is an impressive bit of kit that can hang with a 3090 in situations where VRAM is not a limiting factor.

 

 

I'd be kind of pissed if I paid four figures for a 3090 but 2080 Ti owners should still feel good about how well their cards are still holding up. I really wanted to snag a 4070 Super but my $230 open-box RTX 4060 is more than capable enough to get me by until Intel 15th-gen/Ryzen 8000 (9000?) and RTX 5000.

[Etern4l]

13 minutes ago, saturnotaku said:

I'd be kind of pissed if I paid four figures for a 3090.

Hmm, that was released over 3 years ago, but I can totally see your point. I can’t believe how much I paid for a 9800 GX2 15 years ago. Those tech purchases can haunt you forever lol

/s

[electrosoft]

7 minutes ago, saturnotaku said:

The 4070 Super is an impressive bit of kit that can hang with a 3090 in situations where VRAM is not a limiting factor.

 

 

I'd be kind of pissed if I paid four figures for a 3090 but 2080 Ti owners should still feel good about how well their cards are still holding up. I really wanted to snag a 4070 Super but my $230 open-box RTX 4060 is more than capable enough to get me by until Intel 15th-gen/Ryzen 8000 (9000?) and RTX 5000.

 

To me, the most precious commodity is time. It is finite and meant to be lived in the now as best as possible. You can perpetually compromise your current existence / experience (by choice and/or by circumstances) on all levels and that includes computing hardware.

 

Technology continues to advance and for the price paid, you can perpetually be using and experiencing the very best offered as you cash in that finite commodity real time.

 

Of course this is tempered with common sense and "you can't take it with you" vs "if you can't afford it, don't buy it" and make smart decisions.

 

Will I need a 5090 / 8900xtx? Most likely not. Will I buy one? Probably. 🤑

 

 

[Tenoroon]

1 hour ago, electrosoft said:

Awesome bro, congrats! So what does the final desktop build look like now?

Thank you, here's the list:

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6pmgpB

I've built it all already besides the GPU. The Carbon has been great besides it not being able to use M.2 Sata drives. While it's my fault for not looking into it, I assumed it could take M.2 Sata drives as all of the drives in my P870 are M.2 Sata. It's not that big of a deal as I was only going to take one of the drives out as I will still use the P870 on the go, but I do find it a bit odd that such an expensive motherboard doesn't support M.2 Sata.

I was hoping to OC the 7600x, but it seems to be more stable when I leave the clocks to the Motherboard and CPU via PBO2. It boosts from 5.35 to 5.4ghz all core consistently with a -20 PBO2 curve. AMD has seemingly done a good job with the tuning of these AM5 processors.

The only thing that concerns me is the fact it gets up to like 90C even with my AIO. I understand AM5's temp readings are hotspot readings (tdie or tctl, can't remember exactly what it's called) and my cores and cache under load are in the high 60's, but it seems odd that there's a 20 degree temperature delta between the CPU as a whole and the hotspot.

 

I also thought that the cores and cache would run cooler than the high 60's as the CPU only chugs 105-110 watts. My 8700k in the P870 with max fans can stay in the low 80's at 100 watts, and thats on a tiny heatsink when compared to the Freezer 2 I have. I don't know though, maybe my intuition is just wrong. I'll quit rambling 😁

Edit:
I'll also use this post to ask you about POST times. Even with the latest BIOS, it takes about 20-30 seconds for it to just POST which is a tad annoying. Are the POST times for your Carbon similar?

[Etern4l]

1 hour ago, electrosoft said:

 

To me, the most precious commodity is time. It is finite and meant to be lived in the now as best as possible. You can perpetually compromise your current existence / experience (by choice and/or by circumstances) on all levels and that includes computing hardware.

 

Technology continues to advance and for the price paid, you can perpetually be using and experiencing the very best offered as you cash in that finite commodity real time.

 

Of course this is tempered with common sense and "you can't take it with you" vs "if you can't afford it, don't buy it" and make smart decisions.

 

Will I need a 5090 / 8900xtx? Most likely not. Will I buy one? Probably. 🤑

 

 

I can assure you that my existence/experience is not in the slightest compromised by not gaming on a flagship NVidia GPU, in fact it’s greatly enriched by that, including through the resulting gigantic time savings. It’s pretty arbitrary how people define the quality of their experience. A mobile game addict will say all they need is a flagship phone and a few hundred per month spent on microtransactions. Another guy will claim nothing but driving a Bugatti will do 🙂 Occasionally these days, someone will rate their existence in terms of the quality of their creations, what books their read etc., or in terms of the degree to which they have been doing the right thing for their community, their country, the world.

[Papusan]

On 1/15/2024 at 7:57 AM, electrosoft said:

Here we go again....MSI offering angled adapters for 12VHPR 🙂

 

Hey! at least I can use one with my MSI Liquid Suprim X 4090 and if it goes KABOOM! It's covered.....right?

 

 

 

One thing for sure. Cablemod have "burned" down all the bridges for making new 12VHPWR angled adapters😎

 

 

Edit. Got 6 errors. But no Remapping failure. Thats good. Just got love Hwbots requirements for forced ECC😁 I wonder how many users on Hwbot don't know that their bench subbbing requirements will destroy their cards.

 

9 hours ago, Tenoroon said:

Managed to get a 4070 Super Dual by ASUS for MSRP on Newegg. All of the other cards were above MSRP... 

There was a TPU review on this card though, and the PCB and cooler look alright, so we'll see how it goes. I hope the AIBs don't bin their SKUs too hard as I got a regular dual. I didn't want to pay extra for it to be pre OC'd.

 

 

Seems like a good card. Congrats bro Tenoroon🙂 Here's the review from Guru3d.com

 

ASUS GeForce RTX 4070 SUPER DUAL review guru3d.com

 

Despite the competition from NVIDIA's Founder Edition card, especially at its $599 price point, this card distinguishes itself with its quiet operation, refined design, and similar baseline performance, including tweakability options. It's a challenging decision for consumers. However, when considering the Manufacturer's Suggested Retail Price (MSRP), this model is one of the more impressive offerings in its category, making it a recommended choice (excluding price considerations). 

 

[electrosoft]

3 hours ago, Etern4l said:

I can assure you that my existence/experience is not in the slightest compromised by not gaming on a flagship NVidia GPU, in fact it’s greatly enriched by that, including through the resulting gigantic time savings. It’s pretty arbitrary how people define the quality of their experience. A mobile game addict will say all they need is a flagship phone and a few hundred per month spent on microtransactions. Another guy will claim nothing but driving a Bugatti will do 🙂 Occasionally these days, someone will rate their existence in terms of the quality of their creations, what books their read etc., or in terms of the degree to which they have been doing the right thing for their community, their country, the world.

 

 

tl;dr "Different strokes for different folks" 🙂

 

 

[Papusan]

4 hours ago, Tenoroon said:

I've built it all already besides the GPU. The Carbon has been great besides it not being able to use M.2 Sata drives. While it's my fault for not looking into it, I assumed it could take M.2 Sata drives as all of the drives in my P870 are M.2 Sata. It's not that big of a deal as I was only going to take one of the drives out as I will still use the P870 on the go, but I do find it a bit odd that such an expensive motherboard doesn't support M.2 Sata.

 

Looked on your build.... You opted for Western Digital Black SN770 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive

 

Scrap the idea of 1TB drive. The prices is fast going upwards. Especially for drives with the bigger capacity. I would try at least get 2TB as minimum. If you can afford it, then go for 4TB. But 2TB is the middleman.

 

Take also a closer look on Western Digital Black SN850X 2TB drives. Very good M.2 ssd's and on level with the 980/990 Pro's from Samsung. That's my two picks. 

 

@Rage Set I expect you have got what you need. If not maybe see what you'll need forwards. SSD's have been cheap a long time... And it won't last like theis forever.

 

See also... Consumer SSDs will get substantially more expensive soon.

SSDs pricing to 'skyrocket' as flash shortages are already underway

 

[electrosoft]

4 hours ago, Tenoroon said:

Thank you, here's the list:

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6pmgpB

I've built it all already besides the GPU. The Carbon has been great besides it not being able to use M.2 Sata drives. While it's my fault for not looking into it, I assumed it could take M.2 Sata drives as all of the drives in my P870 are M.2 Sata. It's not that big of a deal as I was only going to take one of the drives out as I will still use the P870 on the go, but I do find it a bit odd that such an expensive motherboard doesn't support M.2 Sata.

I was hoping to OC the 7600x, but it seems to be more stable when I leave the clocks to the Motherboard and CPU via PBO2. It boosts from 5.35 to 5.4ghz all core consistently with a -20 PBO2 curve. AMD has seemingly done a good job with the tuning of these AM5 processors.

The only thing that concerns me is the fact it gets up to like 90C even with my AIO. I understand AM5's temp readings are hotspot readings (tdie or tctl, can't remember exactly what it's called) and my cores and cache under load are in the high 60's, but it seems odd that there's a 20 degree temperature delta between the CPU as a whole and the hotspot.

 

I also thought that the cores and cache would run cooler than the high 60's as the CPU only chugs 105-110 watts. My 8700k in the P870 with max fans can stay in the low 80's at 100 watts, and thats on a tiny heatsink when compared to the Freezer 2 I have. I don't know though, maybe my intuition is just wrong. I'll quit rambling 😁

Edit:
I'll also use this post to ask you about POST times. Even with the latest BIOS, it takes about 20-30 seconds for it to just POST which is a tad annoying. Are the POST times for your Carbon similar?

 

I never even contemplated older M.2 Sata drives as I only use NVMe but I think AM5 doesn't support M.2 Sata so the motherboard would need a special controller/sub system to support them vs AM4 which could support either.

 

Until you hit boost cap, AM5 will push as hard as possible till temps become an issue. Those temps do seem a little high as testing the 7800X3D (sold now) and the 7950X3D in my test case temps top out at 80c or below while hitting their expected scores or greater (~37k on the 7950X3D and ~18.5k on the 7800X3D). This was on an EVGA CLC 360. I haven't tested the 7950X3D on the AF LF II 420mm yet. Have you tried reseating / checking thermal paste application it a few times just to make sure?

 

I didn't realize the 7600x consumed so much power under all core load. Does it do that when running something like CB23 too? My 7800X3D topped out at 90w while hitting ~18.5k.

 

It is slightly better now than last almost 10 months ago as things have matured but I'm sure you found out that stock 4800 Jedec boots up pretty quick but as soon as you enable EXPO or custom frequency/timings retraining can take 20-30 seconds. Early on it took almost a minute on my setup. It was always a race between getting to boot screen or my display timing out with its 60sec timer built in.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Mr. Fox]

16 hours ago, Papusan said:

Yup I as well. If I have it for free. The ugly colors can be fixed🙂

Too bad some things can't be unseen. It would still be hard knowing it how nasty ugly-looking it is behind the pretty black mask. Beauty is only skin deep. Ugly goes down to the bones.

[Rage Set]

1 hour ago, Papusan said:

 

Looked on your build.... You opted for Western Digital Black SN770 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive

 

Scrap the idea of 1TB drive. The prices is fast going upwards. Especially for drives with the bigger capacity. I would try at least get 2TB as minimum. If you can afford it, then go for 4TB. But 2TB is the middleman.

 

Take also a closer look on Western Digital Black SN850X 2TB drives. Very good M.2 ssd's and on level with the 980/990 Pro's from Samsung. That's my two picks. 

 

@Rage Set I expect you have got what you need. If not maybe see what you'll need forwards. SSD's have been cheap a long time... And it won't last like theis forever.

 

See also... Consumer SSDs will get substantially more expensive soon.

SSDs pricing to 'skyrocket' as flash shortages are already underway

 

 

After procuring six 4TB NVMe drives, I am done with NVMe for awhile. However, I am still on the fence on whether I want to buy a couple of these https://serverpartdeals.com/products/intel-dc-p4510-ssdpe2kx080t851-0m6cnf-8tb-pcie-gen-3-1-x4-4gb-s-3d-tlc-1dwpd-u-2-nvme-2-5-solid-state-drive for my server. 

 

[Mr. Fox]

On 1/16/2024 at 2:28 PM, electrosoft said:

Anybody check their memory on their 4090s with this command? nvidia-smi -q -d row_remapper

 

https://www.overclock.net/threads/official-nvidia-rtx-4090-owners-club.1800847/post-29286667

 

Looking at all those logged errors from OCs and temp settings and he's trying to reset it for HWBOT.

 

His:

 

 

Mine:

 

 

It changes from 1 error with the Galax 1KW vBIOS to no errors with the stock vBIOS. So, I'm not sure it is accurate that it physically remaps memory. Maybe only a change is saved in firmware NVRAM that has no effect on the actual hardware.

 

[tps3443]

1 hour ago, Rage Set said:

 

After procuring six 4TB NVMe drives, I am done with NVMe for awhile. However, I am still on the fence on whether I want to buy a couple of these https://serverpartdeals.com/products/intel-dc-p4510-ssdpe2kx080t851-0m6cnf-8tb-pcie-gen-3-1-x4-4gb-s-3d-tlc-1dwpd-u-2-nvme-2-5-solid-state-drive for my server. 

 

Wow! That’s a really good buy! I don’t think my Apex has a U.2 though. Maybe there is an adapter. I really want one of those. I’ve consolidated down to a single Gen4 2TB M.2, and I find my self clearing clutter to add more clutter sometimes. 8TB for $400 is amazing. 

[Papusan]

4 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

It changes from 1 error with the Galax 1KW vBIOS to no errors with the stock vBIOS. So, I'm not sure it is accurate that it physically remaps memory. Maybe only a change is saved in firmware NVRAM that has no effect on the actual hardware.

Hmmm. Can be everything. But the 6 errors I have don't hamper the performance. And I'm sure there is more in the tank from what I have seen from the benchmarks of the 4090. And I didn't get any Remap failures (the one they are afraid), so why bother if the performance is darn good? And as you say... It can be a glitc in the firmware as well. Showing several errors doesn't mean that the card is faulthy. And if you RMA the card you risk that they send a dude back with twisted mounting and bad bin.

 

Damn sad we can't use Windows 7 with the new and shiny graphics cards☹️ 3165 on the cores and 1530 on the Memory. Maybe its vise to stop around 1530. No need to trigger more errors than necessary. You won't gain much points with 10 or 20 MHz extra.

 

https://hwbot.org/submission/5457010_papusan_3dmark11___performance_geforce_rtx_4090_82431_marks?recalculate=true

 

[electrosoft]

35 minutes ago, Mr. Fox said:

It changes from 1 error with the Galax 1KW vBIOS to no errors with the stock vBIOS. So, I'm not sure it is accurate that it physically remaps memory. Maybe only a change is saved in firmware NVRAM that has no effect on the actual hardware.

 

 

That makes sense as to why he wanted a copy of the infomap for the Suprim to rewrite his Suprim and effectively remove the error logs.

 

My only concern would be reflashing your vBIOS might wipe the "error log" but the errors could still exist in the memory itself and will just be re-detected and logged eventually when running with ECC on.

 

If that's the case, re-flashing would be a slimy way of removing the logged errors of remapped/bad/troubled memory modules before sale.....speculation of course.

 

What happens when you flash back to the Galax?

 

1 minute ago, Papusan said:

Hmmm. Can be everything. But the 6 errors I have don't hamper the performance. And I'm sure there is more in the tank from what I have seen from the benchmarks of my 4090. And I didn't get any Remap failures (the one they are afraid), so why bother if the performance is darn good? And as you say... It can be a glitc in the firmware as well. Shoving several errors doesn't mean that the card is faulthy. And if you RMA the card you risk that they send a dude back with twisted mounting and bad bin.

 

https://hwbot.org/submission/5457010_papusan_3dmark11___performance_geforce_rtx_4090_82431_marks?recalculate=true

 

 

Remapping bad memory could be similar to remapping bad sectors. I can't see a scenario where performance would be hindered unless you full saturating the 24GB of vram and then it would have to be a scenario where small memory reductions actually make a difference.

 

 

 

 

[Papusan]

3 hours ago, electrosoft said:

Remapping bad memory could be similar to remapping bad sectors. I can't see a scenario where performance would be hindered unless you full saturating the 24GB of vram and then it would have to be a scenario where small memory reductions actually make a difference.

 

Hwbot already cripple performance with the ECC enabled requirements for the 4090. You loose vram capacity and one clock cycle for the vram in benchmarks. 

 

And everyday you loose some points because the bot is flooded with new subbed results from people that don't follow the rules. You'll never have the correct ranking on the leaderboards. It's what it is.

 

Btw. Is there a software that can measure correct vram voltage? I don't talk about Elmor labs hardware/software. Just vanilla software.

 

4 hours ago, tps3443 said:

Wow! That’s a really good buy! I don’t think my Apex has a U.2 though. Maybe there is an adapter. I really want one of those. I’ve consolidated down to a single Gen4 2TB M.2, and I find my self clearing clutter to add more clutter sometimes. 8TB for $400 is amazing. 

 

PCIe Adapter for Desktop PC compatibility available here

 

[Mr. Fox]

56 minutes ago, electrosoft said:

What happens when you flash back to the Galax?

I didn't flash it. All I did was turn off the PC and move the slider switch to the stock vBIOS position and restarted. That is why I think it is simply a change made in firmware. I also do not think that it means the memory is defective, only that you set an overclock that was unstable and with the stupid ECC feature enabled it (hopefully) does nothing more that save the mapping in the firmware/NVRAM. Now, I don't know if reflashing the vBIOS will overwrite the IFR table to make it "clean" again. I don't see any reason that anyone would not to want it to do so. I would hope so, and I would view that as being no different than clearing the Windows Event log. 

1 hour ago, tps3443 said:

Wow! That’s a really good buy! I don’t think my Apex has a U.2 though. Maybe there is an adapter. I really want one of those. I’ve consolidated down to a single Gen4 2TB M.2, and I find my self clearing clutter to add more clutter sometimes. 8TB for $400 is amazing. 

No, I don't think so either. You'd see it near the SATA ports if it did The Z690 Dark has a U.2 port, but I never used it due to not having a U.2 drive to test it with.

---

I am glad I saved the old 2080 Ti firmware. The 2kW XOC vBIOS still works fine. SMI CLI  power limit command does not work with newer drivers. I had to downgrade the drivers to an older version.

[Papusan]

Damn close to 2nd or 3rd in GPUPI-1B. Only 1-4 ms apart. Can't be much closer than this😀 Above 3255 on the cores this Gpu it start to be quite flaky. Maybe I’ll try another driver later.

 

But 4th on Hwbot Global leaderboard for single GPU isn't bad https://hwbot.org/benchmark/gpupi_-_1b/rankings?cores=1

 

 

https://hwbot.org/submission/5457051_papusan_gpupi___1b_geforce_rtx_4090_1sec_46ms?recalculate=true

 

 

Hmmmm. RTX 4070 SUPER BAD Sales Leak... THIS is why the 4070 SUPER is selling badly…

 

 

And next good news. AMD's Special Promo pricing. AMD can't hold the old MSRP anymore. Hence our good old friend Frank Azor come AMD salesteam to rescue, LOOL

 

 

 

Heavy price cuts to counter Nvidia's Super cards

 

AMD unveils promo pricing in wake of Nvidia's Super launch

 

 

[jaybee83]

14 hours ago, electrosoft said:

 

To me, the most precious commodity is time. It is finite and meant to be lived in the now as best as possible. You can perpetually compromise your current existence / experience (by choice and/or by circumstances) on all levels and that includes computing hardware.

 

Technology continues to advance and for the price paid, you can perpetually be using and experiencing the very best offered as you cash in that finite commodity real time.

 

Of course this is tempered with common sense and "you can't take it with you" vs "if you can't afford it, don't buy it" and make smart decisions.

 

Will I need a 5090 / 8900xtx? Most likely not. Will I buy one? Probably. 🤑

 

 

 

this 100%. i keep tabs every once in a while on component pricing of my build. every time i think "wwhoa prices have gotten waaaay lower after day 1!". but no buyer's remorse, cuz right after follows: "welp ive been using this hardware since day 1 for close to 15 months now". THAT time utilizing this awesome performance is more worth than the money missed due to falling prices and waiting time 🙂 

 

13 hours ago, Etern4l said:

I can assure you that my existence/experience is not in the slightest compromised by not gaming on a flagship NVidia GPU, in fact it’s greatly enriched by that, including through the resulting gigantic time savings. It’s pretty arbitrary how people define the quality of their experience. A mobile game addict will say all they need is a flagship phone and a few hundred per month spent on microtransactions. Another guy will claim nothing but driving a Bugatti will do 🙂 Occasionally these days, someone will rate their existence in terms of the quality of their creations, what books their read etc., or in terms of the degree to which they have been doing the right thing for their community, their country, the world.

 

whoa thats getting pretty philosphical now 😄 

 

6 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

It changes from 1 error with the Galax 1KW vBIOS to no errors with the stock vBIOS. So, I'm not sure it is accurate that it physically remaps memory. Maybe only a change is saved in firmware NVRAM that has no effect on the actual hardware.

 

 

not sure if uve mentioned this before: any differences between the Asus and Galax 1kW XOC vbios versions? super happy with the asus vbios, but just curious.

 

6 hours ago, tps3443 said:

Wow! That’s a really good buy! I don’t think my Apex has a U.2 though. Maybe there is an adapter. I really want one of those. I’ve consolidated down to a single Gen4 2TB M.2, and I find my self clearing clutter to add more clutter sometimes. 8TB for $400 is amazing. 

 

dude, if u hadnt followed up with his link, i wouldnt have realized what kinda storage gold mine were talking here. thats frigging amazing! saved those links to mull things over. my current setup with 4x4TB 860 Evos in 2 RAID 0 stripes mirrored to each other is a tad too many drives for my liking. would rather prefer 2x8 TB single drives and this here would come in VERY handy!

[Mr. Fox]

6 hours ago, jaybee83 said:

not sure if uve mentioned this before: any differences between the Asus and Galax 1kW XOC vbios versions? super happy with the asus vbios, but just curious.

It seems like I get better overall results using the Galax vBIOS. I'm not sure why. Maybe something with the I/O peculiarity with the ASUS GPU (extra HDMI port and I/O mapping quirks unique to ASUS). Just a guess.

---

So, this finally arrived. Will see how it compares to the Supercool direct touch RAM blocks when I find the spare time to install them. So far I have been impressed with the IceMan direct die block and the IceMan Dual D5 pump housing I added to my 5-gallon chilled water tank. Seems like the IceMan stuff is very good quality. This will be installed on the RAM in the Apex Encore. The Supercool RAM blocks are on the RAM in the Apex. Both are clocked at 8600. The Apex has the more elaborate cooling system, so it will not be a precise comparison, but it will also show how it compares to the Byski RAM jackets and block current installed on the Apex Encore memory.

[Papusan]

On 1/17/2024 at 7:14 PM, Talon said:

Grabbed a little baby MSRP RTX 4070 Super FE from Best Buy this morning. Free overnight shipment. Plan to flash the 350w Gigabyte vBIOS to it with the unlocked flasher. A 4090 in a secondary rig was a total waste of a card. Glad I was able to sell it for what I paid to a nice guy that was building his first rig. 

 

You and @Tenoroon will also have the chance to to see if Galax also this time offer an better vbios than what you find with the average or the so called OC SKUs of nvidia graphis cards. So "flashing" has to be todays word🙂 

 

GALAX will offer many HOF SUPER versions

Edit. Forgot... Congrats with the new card you as well 🙂 The new all black FE color theme/design is beautiful. 

[electrosoft]

18 hours ago, Papusan said:

 

Looked on your build.... You opted for Western Digital Black SN770 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive

 

Scrap the idea of 1TB drive. The prices is fast going upwards. Especially for drives with the bigger capacity. I would try at least get 2TB as minimum. If you can afford it, then go for 4TB. But 2TB is the middleman.

 

Take also a closer look on Western Digital Black SN850X 2TB drives. Very good M.2 ssd's and on level with the 980/990 Pro's from Samsung. That's my two picks. 

 

@Rage Set I expect you have got what you need. If not maybe see what you'll need forwards. SSD's have been cheap a long time... And it won't last like theis forever.

 

See also... Consumer SSDs will get substantially more expensive soon.

SSDs pricing to 'skyrocket' as flash shortages are already underway

 

 

I usually keep 1TB as boot and game drive and use externals for data archiving, but I finally reached the point where 1TB is finally feeling "tight" so I scooped up a 2TB 990 Pro on sale a few weeks back.

 

14 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

I didn't flash it. All I did was turn off the PC and move the slider switch to the stock vBIOS position and restarted. That is why I think it is simply a change made in firmware. I also do not think that it means the memory is defective, only that you set an overclock that was unstable and with the stupid ECC feature enabled it (hopefully) does nothing more that save the mapping in the firmware/NVRAM. Now, I don't know if reflashing the vBIOS will overwrite the IFR table to make it "clean" again. I don't see any reason that anyone would not to want it to do so. I would hope so, and I would view that as being no different than clearing the Windows Event log.

---

 

 

This makes sense too. Where does Logging OC errors with ECC enabled end and actual memory degradation from OC logged errors begin? I'm leaning more forwards the former with the latter off in the periphery. 🙂

 

 

[Tenoroon]

17 hours ago, Papusan said:

 

Looked on your build.... You opted for Western Digital Black SN770 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive

 

Scrap the idea of 1TB drive. The prices is fast going upwards. Especially for drives with the bigger capacity. I would try at least get 2TB as minimum. If you can afford it, then go for 4TB. But 2TB is the middleman.

 

Take also a closer look on Western Digital Black SN850X 2TB drives. Very good M.2 ssd's and on level with the 980/990 Pro's from Samsung. That's my two picks. 

 

@Rage Set I expect you have got what you need. If not maybe see what you'll need forwards. SSD's have been cheap a long time... And it won't last like theis forever.

 

See also... Consumer SSDs will get substantially more expensive soon.

SSDs pricing to 'skyrocket' as flash shortages are already underway

 

 

I know it's weird, but I plan on getting a 2tb drive soon. I'm weird about my storage and like having my OS and files I hoard on one drive, and then all of my games, DAWs, and larger programs on the other. In my P870, the split is 500gb OS drive and then a 1tb game/program drive, so for this build I'm doubling that. I was planning this build in early December and regret not buying the SSDs then. I heard that China was buying up a lot of the SSDs, but I thought I still had time...

 

17 hours ago, electrosoft said:

Until you hit boost cap, AM5 will push as hard as possible till temps become an issue. Those temps do seem a little high as testing the 7800X3D (sold now) and the 7950X3D in my test case temps top out at 80c or below while hitting their expected scores or greater (~37k on the 7950X3D and ~18.5k on the 7800X3D). This was on an EVGA CLC 360. I haven't tested the 7950X3D on the AF LF II 420mm yet. Have you tried reseating / checking thermal paste application it a few times just to make sure?

 

I didn't realize the 7600x consumed so much power under all core load. Does it do that when running something like CB23 too? My 7800X3D topped out at 90w while hitting ~18.5k.

 

Yeah, I plan on checking the heatsink out once I install my GPU. Too lazy to tear it apart lol

I believe the X3D chips are more power limited due to the worsened heat transfer from having the stacked cache (hence having lower boost clocks compared to their non X3D counterparts). It could also just be that I got a really bad 7600x. I hope it's not that!

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Not sure if it's been mentioned here, but the Radeon RX 6950 XT is available for just $550 right now.

 

AMD Radeon RX 6950 XT Triple Fan 16GB GDDR6 PCIe 4.0 Graphics Card - Micro Center