*Official Benchmark Thread* - Post it here or it didn't happen :D

[Papusan]

14 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

Probably will be a couple of months, maybe three, before anyone can purchase a 5090, which probably will result in even greater overpricing and scalping behavior.

 

Maybe the broken software and all weird problems is fixed by then. 

 

 

Yup. Damn disgusting.... With the trashy fragile 12+4 pin mini-fit connectors it's not advised to disconnect then connect the cable several times. One way road to destroy the trashy connector both on the cable  and the card. And people will try that first. Yep, you can most likely fully turn of your PSU to fix it but still, no cards with stock firmware should have such behaviour. Seems there have been no time for QC and testing.

 

 https://www.overclock.net/posts/29423263/ ::::: https://www.overclock.net/posts/29423381/

 

Stupid is the new norm.... CPU Ryzen 7 5800X is an fantastic choice as well.

 

[Mr. Fox]

1 hour ago, Papusan said:

 

Maybe the broken software and all weird problems is fixed by then. 

 

 

Yup. Damn disgusting.... With the trashy fragile 12+4 pin mini-fit connectors it's not advised to disconnect then connect the cable several times. One way road to destroy the trashy connector both on the cable  and the card. And people will try that first. Yep, you can most likely fully turn of your PSU but still, no cards with stock firmware should have such behaviour.

 

 https://www.overclock.net/posts/29423263/ ::::: https://www.overclock.net/posts/29423381/

Everything was rushed and premature, with not enough time for R&D or QC. And now it shows. PC world has never been more sucky for early adoption guinea pigs. Paying high prices for the privilege of being a crash test dummy instead of being paid to be one isn't a nice thing.

[electrosoft]

55 minutes ago, Mr. Fox said:

Everything was rushed and premature, with not enough time for R&D or QC. And now it shows. PC world has never been more sucky for early adoption guinea pigs. Paying high prices for the privilege of being a crash test dummy instead of being paid to be one isn't a nice thing.

 

I will give the AIBs a pass on this one because of how Nvidia treated them in regards to leaving them in the dark till the last minute and literally giving them ~2wks to actually get the cores and do some semblance of QC testing.

 

But Nvidia? They had ample time to work out the kinks with the 5000 series. They had already pushed it back from its normal launch cycle (~2yrs). They could have easily waited till June or even pushed it back another full year to the fall and launched it properly.

 

If it helps, my 5080 FE is running smooth as silk and zero problems. Just the normal 4090 issues with the 14900KS still bottlenecking it at 4k more often than not where before the 4070 Super was sitting at 99% the vast majority of the time.

 

Raids at Ultra 10 RT on leave the 5080 FE sitting well below 80% almost all the time and sometimes even lower. I am pleasantly surprised at the performance level of the 5080 stock. I haven't even begun to OC it yet.

 

One last round of testing with the 14900KS and 8200 tuned before I slap in the 9800X3D tuned 2200/6400 1:1 for its turn and relegate the 14900KS to the test bench system till it learns its fate. (insert ominous music HERE).

 

2 hours ago, Papusan said:

 

 

 

 https://www.overclock.net/posts/29423263/ ::::: https://www.overclock.net/posts/29423381/

 

Stupid is the new norm.... CPU Ryzen 7 5800X is an fantastic choice as well.

 

 

I love the comment section. A lot of salty, butt hurt 4090 owners getting testy where it really isn't needed....

 

 

 

[Talon]

On 2/3/2025 at 1:48 PM, electrosoft said:

Regression in performance for Ultra 9 285k even tuned a bit for gaming:

 

Absolutely not tuned at all. Running 8600 XMP is not tuned, it's just running stock with an XMP kit.

 

This guy is actually a moron and claiming he did any type of tune. You can see he left the NGU/D2D and cache all stock. Then claiming he tried to "overclock" to 5.4Ghz P core all core. Dude 5.4Ghz is STOCK all core for P-cores. This dude is a literal idiot that is spreading more misinformation. At this point I'm not even convinced this level of misinformation isn't malicious. 

 

Tuning Arrow Lake takes about 2 minutes in the BIOS. You set 32x on D2D and NGU. Set 41x cache. Set 48-50x E Cores sync'd. Leave P Cores auto. Set XMP or XMP Tweaked. Save and reset. A decent tune is 68-71ns latency depending on which board you have since 2dimm boards have lower latency natively due to the physical distance. He's showing 85ns which is absolute trash and destroys gaming perf. 

[electrosoft]

6 hours ago, Talon said:

 

Absolutely not tuned at all. Running 8600 XMP is not tuned, it's just running stock with an XMP kit.

 

This guy is actually a moron and claiming he did any type of tune. You can see he left the NGU/D2D and cache all stock. Then claiming he tried to "overclock" to 5.4Ghz P core all core. Dude 5.4Ghz is STOCK all core for P-cores. This dude is a literal idiot that is spreading more misinformation. At this point I'm not even convinced this level of misinformation isn't malicious. 

 

Tuning Arrow Lake takes about 2 minutes in the BIOS. You set 32x on D2D and NGU. Set 41x cache. Set 48-50x E Cores sync'd. Leave P Cores auto. Set XMP or XMP Tweaked. Save and reset. A decent tune is 68-71ns latency depending on which board you have since 2dimm boards have lower latency natively due to the physical distance. He's showing 85ns which is absolute trash and destroys gaming perf. 

 

See? And that's why I'm glad you're here and actually bought one. 🙂 All I have to go off of are other people's results.

 

So having owned and played with it for quite some time now, what is your overall comparison versus your tuned 14th gen and 9800X3D? Pick 3-4 games that favor either or and?

 

 

[jaybee83]

aight, decision is made: keeping the 4090 for now and ordered new SSDs with the 5090 budget  😛 

 

4x8TB WD SN850X/P drives incoming! 😄 

 

with the way things are going it might be quite a while until ill be able to snatch a 5090. however, price is also a consideration: all websites im monitoring are slowly but surely increasing prices every. single. day. so even WHEN new stock arrives, itll be like 4k+ € easily, even directly from the shop. not willing to pay THAT much, F that. rather bide my time and enjoy the 4090 some more, plus the new toys im getting for a steal 🙂 

[electrosoft]

35 minutes ago, jaybee83 said:

aight, decision is made: keeping the 4090 for now and ordered new SSDs with the 5090 budget  😛 

 

4x8TB WD SN850X/P drives incoming! 😄 

 

with the way things are going it might be quite a while until ill be able to snatch a 5090. however, price is also a consideration: all websites im monitoring are slowly but surely increasing prices every. single. day. so even WHEN new stock arrives, itll be like 4k+ € easily, even directly from the shop. not willing to pay THAT much, F that. rather bide my time and enjoy the 4090 some more, plus the new toys im getting for a steal 🙂 

 

Yup, prices are officially rising from the AIBs:

 

https://videocardz.com/newz/msi-and-asus-hike-geforce-rtx-50-series-prices-in-official-stores-now-up-to-3409-for-rtx-5090

 

Plus with the tariffs in play prices are rising on a lot of items here in the US for other computer items. I noticed even Asus peripherals have gone up in price in the last few days.

 

I'll pocket my $1000, rock my 5080 FE which like my 4090 is being held back in WoW and Fallout 76 (9800X3D results not in yet) and keep it moving unless on a rare snag I get a $2k MSRP card. Anything else is just not worth it paying a almost 200%+ markup for 50% more performance on a card that is being bottlenecked for my two main games anyhow atm.

 

I have several SFF builds in mind I can't wait to slap this into.

 

100% markup for 50% more performance? Ok, I can maybe swallow that....kinda but that requires an alignment of the stars and that doesn't rule out Nvidia raising the prices on their FE editions to $1100/$2200 or more.

 

I'm not paying $2868 for a 5090 Suprim or $2975 for a Liquid 5090 after tax. That's insane. Absolutely insane. That is literally almost $2k more than I paid for my 5080 FE.

 

Astral 5090 is $3284 after tax. No.

 

Astral 5090 Liquid? $3635 after tax. **** no

 

Just......no.

 

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For those of us who also enjoy laptops, I'm loathe to think of the new prices that we'll get. If Asus has already raised the price of the incoming 5090 laptop to $4199.99 BEFORE the tariffs, that is going to be $4500.00 for a 5090 laptop.

 

No idea what MSI will be charging but they're routinely not that far behind. I'm sure the Titan will cost at least one kidney and a weekly quart of blood for a down payment.

 

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It might be time to use common sense and just sit back and enjoy what we have or if you're really hell bent on getting a 5090, just suck it up and pay out the wazoo as soon as possible and hope to recoup a lot of that cost reselling your 4090....if you can score a 5090.

 

 

 

 

[Papusan]

Sad times. But if taxes/prices increase for US I expect the pressure on 5090 over there will lessen and other countries will get slightly better inventory over time. Maybe not right now but when the hype is cooled a bit.  China is hungry for chips so Nvidia can just dump more D models over Asia. Same with real 5090's. They will easly be showled into China they as well. Nvidia don't need US gamers. 

 

What we all have to hope for...Nvidia will sell less chips for AI servers. No tree grows to heaven. Better utilizing of GPUs for AI workflow will lower the sales. Just sit down and see Nvidia hit a wall.