*Official Benchmark Thread* - Post it here or it didn't happen :D

[tps3443]

1 hour ago, electrosoft said:

 

 

@tps3443 : "Man, I’ve lost interest in the 5090 unfortunately. Especially one for $3,026 dollars after taxes. I think I burned my self out on it. It just doesn’t excite me anymore. "

 

also @tps3443: *** Quietly enters Shuffle ***

 

🤣

 

But yeah, I get it.

 

 

No, being very serious. I just spent $2,200 on a new laptop for work. I had a max budget of $3,000 dollars for a RTX5090. I’m using the rest of my funds to finish out my Lian Li V3000+ Plus case build. I’d have to sell my 4090 now, and that’s a silly move for a potential pipe dream. 
 

I don’t mind waiting now. I drained my enthusiasm and really wasted too much time on the 5090. 
 

I was in a corporate meeting once and got some BB alerts and was like “One moment” 🤣 the addiction and want was strong. So I gotta let go. 

[Papusan]

 

Asus cater to their audience. Please tell me if this works when/if you buy one bro @Mr. Fox😁 You get it in two different SKUs. Maybe buy both for the sake of variety🤮 Yup, Asus know exactly what modern PC users want.

 

 

ASUS Releases A Fragrance Mouse So You Can Stop And Smell The Roses

 

ASUS isn't pitching its Fragrance Mouse as a rodent for gamers, and instead is taking bigger aim at the lifestyle market. The press release makes no mention of price or when exactly this will be available to purchase (I looked and didn't see it listed at Amazon or Best Buy), but when it does become available, it will be offered in both Iridescent White and Rose Clay colorways.

[Mr. Fox]

7 hours ago, Papusan said:

Nice be the lucky one  getting new cards. Return to sender then you need to "return back to the the queue" and hope you get new card within next 16 weeks. Maybe you get lucky a second time? What next? 

 

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5090 Spotted with Missing ROPs, Performance Loss Confirmed

Exclusive Updated 

 

 

Today, 11:42 Updated: Today

TechPowerUp has discovered that there are NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5090 graphics cards in retail circulation that come with too few render units, which lowers performance. Zotac's GeForce RTX 5090 Solid comes with fewer ROPs than it should—168 are enabled, instead of the 176 that are part of the RTX 5090 specifications. This loss of 8 ROPs has a small, but noticeable impact on performance. During recent testing, we noticed our Zotac RTX 5090 Solid sample underperformed slightly, falling behind even the NVIDIA RTX 5090 Founders Edition card. At the time we didn't pay attention to the ROP count that TechPowerUp GPU-Z was reporting, and instead spent time looking for other reasons, like clocks, power, cooling, etc.

 

https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/gpus/some-rtx-5090s-are-shipping-with-missing-rop-units-leading-to-less-gaming-performance-report

 

 

Nvidia have a lot work foreards with their brand new tech.... And it seems worse than ever. Shortage is only a small part of this awful release.

We are starting to see more and more issues that suggest the 50 series was rushed and released prematurely, and some of these problems are unforgivable.

5 hours ago, electrosoft said:

Newegg Shuffle for 5090s is up. Gigabyte and Asus models are in play including the water blocked Gigabyte @tps3443!

 

You definitely have a higher than average chance of winning considering much less buyers will be targeting it vs other models.

 

 

I selected them all because why not? Odds are low, but fun to see what model I might win lol.

 

My luck it will be the overpriced TUF OC or Aorus AIO.

 

 

The 5080 pricing, although too high, would be in line with 4090 pricing. The problem is that 5080 is a downgrade from 4090 performance and specs, while priced roughly the same. The price of 5090 is just unacceptable by every measurement on face value. It's only a minor upgrade over 4090 with an absolutely absurd $1,000+ premium attached to it. Paying a ton of extra money for a small upgrade is a price to value disparity that makes no sense for anyone that has any sense. 

5 hours ago, tps3443 said:

Man, I’ve lost interest in the 5090 unfortunately. Especially one for $3,026 dollars after taxes. I think I burned my self out on it. It just doesn’t excite me anymore. 

When you step back and look at everything it is totally ridiculous. Beyond not being exciting, I think it is something everyone should be very unhappy or even angry about it. It is blantant shafting to be totally blunt about it. There is no way in hell it costs such a substantially higher amount than a 5080 to manufacture a 5090. Certainly not $800 - $1500 more depending on what brand of crookedness is your favorite. As you make your way down the product stack to the mundane options like 5070 Ti price to value proposition does not improve. Anyone that doesn't see this as getting screwed over royally just isn't playing with a full deck or they are such a fanboy that they have lost their ability to think rationally and objectively. The problem is bigger than simple greed. It is a deliberately crafted scam that can only be viewed as an ethical failure.

4 hours ago, Papusan said:

 

Maybe we'll see less scalping now? Or maybe some buyers don't care about warranty or paying too much? 

 

What I hope happens is that NVIDIA ends up taking a financial blood bath on this, but I fear there are too many stupid people that handle their financial affairs in a careless and scatterbrained manner to let them fail. They deserve to lose a fortune and incur devastating losses on this totally botched product launch and I hope that they get what they deserve. 

[Papusan]

2 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

We are starting to see more and more issues that suggest the 50 series was rushed and released prematurely, and some of these problems are unforgivable.

 

Blackwell is what Arrow Lake was for Intel. Nvidia  just follow the same trend. QC cost money. Better rush the harware out before proper testing. Nvidia's main focus is on AI. Not gaming products or gamers. 

 

NVIDIA Recommends GeForce RTX 5070 Ti GPU to AI Content Creators

Press Release

 

Source: NVIDIA Blog

[Reciever]

I didnt realize how bad the market has gotten in the last few months. 

 

The Red Devil 7900 XTX that I traded plus cash for seems to be selling for double? Thats nuts

 

Also returning my 3rd 12TB drive, seems people are trying to offload junk on ebay/amazon

[Mr. Fox]

36 minutes ago, Reciever said:

I didnt realize how bad the market has gotten in the last few months. 

 

The Red Devil 7900 XTX that I traded plus cash for seems to be selling for double? Thats nuts

 

Also returning my 3rd 12TB drive, seems people are trying to offload junk on ebay/amazon

It really is terrible right now. I also have not paid a lot of attention, but started looking closer after seeing some of the drama around 50-series and it's really bad. I think it has actually gotten worse since launch and the few people that were able to buy a 5090 or 5080 at the "expected" price still got treated wrong with reliability and functionality problems, but now the prices seem to have skyrocketed to even higher levels of unreasonableness. And, no... I absolutely do not believe that tariffs are increasing the prices by 50% or more. I do believe that the tariffs are being used as an excuse to gouge consumers and increase profits in an unethical manner. They would be doing the same thing in the absense of tariffs. If these companies were honest they would show the prices before tariffs are added and be accountable for the amount they are trying to tack on for the actual tariffs. Do I think that inventory was held back to create artificial demand and allow them to use tariffs as a lame excuse to justify exhorbitant predator pricing? Yes, I do. They're all scum. And, the scummy price gouging is not exclusively 50-series. It's everything across the board now totally out of control and getting progressively worse over the past year. We saw if first with necessities like food and other things that have nothing whatsoever to do with tariffs, Trump or Elon. The only products priced to value are the things most people don't want or need, so they have priced the trash to sell.

[Papusan]

35 minutes ago, Mr. Fox said:

It really is terrible right now. I also have not paid a lot of attention, but started looking closer after seeing some of the drama around 50-series and it's really bad.

 

See the whole video. Also AMD offer scam.

 

[Mr. Fox]

1 hour ago, Papusan said:

 

 

That is an EXCELLENT video that very accurately describes the insane scamming, collusion and fraud that is taking place. He is spot on and it is a scam of epic proportions. This criminal behavior is extending to all PC components now.  The only way to stop this is to starve the pig to the brink of death. Dead scammers don't scam. Dead pigs don't squeal, but they both squirm before taking their last breath of life. China's ability to survive needs to become a matter of doubt for China and the rest of the world, and we need to take the next steps and remove any doubt by taking them out for good and returning them to third-world status with no ability to buy or sell anything, anywhere. They need to be forced into having focus all of their attention to working their rice patties or starving to death, with no help from the rest of the world.

 

What matters is performance and value. But you can't find either one from Team Red or Team Green. AMD isn't focused on adding value or performance. They're only focused on NVIDIA in order to figure how badly they can get away with screwing their own fanboys. AMD GPU stock was shipped and ready to sell some time ago. It is collecting dust, just waiting so they can copy the unethical behavior of their competitor and maximize the price of their own trash. They don't care about their own brand or the people that buy their brand. Same as NVIDIA.

 

From relevant starting point...

 

[Mr. Fox]

 

 

We need to stop caring about things like GPUs. They don't matter in the grand scheme of things. Far more is at stake than our hobby.

 

We need more than tariffs. That's not going far enough. We should ban all forms of trade with China, seize all assets owned by China in the US and its territories, ban import and sale of all products manufactured in China, ban all travel to and from China, block the sale and export of any and all products to China, including food and natural resources, revoke visas and begin deporting all Chinese Nationals.
 

The China Threat | Federal Bureau of Investigation - Counterintelligence

 

The counterintelligence and economic espionage efforts emanating from the government of China and the Chinese Communist Party are a grave threat to the economic well-being and democratic values of the United States.

 

Confronting this threat is the FBI’s top counterintelligence priority. To be clear, the adversary is not the Chinese people or people of Chinese descent or heritage. The threat comes from the programs and policies pursued by an authoritarian government. The Chinese government is employing tactics that seek to influence lawmakers and public opinion to achieve policies that are more favorable to China.
 

At the same time, the Chinese government is seeking to become the world’s greatest superpower through predatory lending and business practices, systematic theft of intellectual property, and brazen cyber intrusions.
 

China’s efforts target businesses, academic institutions, researchers, lawmakers, and the general public and will require a whole-of-society response. The government and the private sector must commit to working together to better understand and counter the threat.

“The greatest long-term threat to our nation’s information and intellectual property, and to our economic vitality, is the counterintelligence and economic espionage threat from China.”

FBI Director Christopher Wray

The Threat Posed by the Chinese Government and the Chinese Communist Party to the Economic and National Security of the United States

China is the primary source of most of the problems facing the US and the world abroad. The destruction of their economic structure and their ability to be a participant in global trade is essential to the health and well-being of the world.

 

[Mr. Fox]

All good ideas, but AMD isn't known for having good business sense. 

This basically makes 5090 not only a poor value proposition monetarily, but also loses what very few benefits it offers over a 4090 in terms of performance. AMD needs to take advantage of this and strike while the iron it hot. But will they?

 

[Papusan]

10 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

This basically makes 5090 not only a poor value proposition monetarily, but also loses what very few benefits it offers over a 4090 in terms of performance. AMD needs to take advantage of this and strike while the iron it hot. But will they?

 

Nvidia knew about it... A long time time. Nvidia is an  American multinational corporation and technology company. Their etics is trash. 

 

NVIDIA confirms 0.5% of RTX 5090(D) and RTX 5070 Ti were shipped with fewer ROPs

 

NVIDIA has just issued a statement on something that we reported yesterday. Only after a report from TechPowerUP, who discovered an anomaly in product specs, did the company decide to confirm that there was indeed a production issue.

 

 

Here is another US company with same trashy/questionable etics .... Meta defends using pirated material, claims it's legal. And Mr. Musk. He should be jailed for the same. Both Suckerman and Musk should be jailed. There is only one place for such CEOs.

 

 

[Reciever]

Steer the topic back towards the threads topic please. Thanks Everyone

[Mr. Fox]

2 hours ago, Papusan said:

Here is another US company with same trashy/questionable etics .... Meta defends using pirated material, claims it's legal. And Mr. Musk. He should be jailed for the same. Both Suckerman and Musk should be jailed. There is only one place for such CEOs.

You and I will have to disagree about Elon. We are good friends, so that is totally fine. We do not have to agree on everything. Musk is one of the rare business executives with his head screwed on straight. He has unleashed an attack on an evil empire of corruption, starting with their financial resources secretly funded by taxpayer money, and it is natural he will be hated and smeared by the media. He and Trump were both once the darlings of the liberal left because they thought they were allies in their war against decency and sanity. The problem is US and World News is misreported in our own country, so I can only imagine it is exponentially worse in other countries that have governments run by people who have even lower ethical standards and more corrupt leaders than we do.

 

The mainstream "news" media across the globe is almost entirely fake and disinformation and carefully organized lies by a left-wing cartel run by utterly insane nutjobs that have an agenda that is detrimental for the world. People need to stop listening to any and all information that comes from syndicated "news" sources because almost all of it is false narrative. When people with common sense, traditional Judeo-Christian and traditional conservative family values occupy any executive leadership position in big business or big government they land on this cartel's hit list and the smear campaigns begin. Their onslaught of lies is endless.

 

They are having an emotional breakdown right now because they have lost control of the narrative. Trump and Musk are making them all look like the retarded monkeys that all of them are. As Trump, Musk, Patel, Bondi, Gabbard and other members of Trump's integrity posse reveal more of their tricks, lies and fraud they will scream louder and louder because their sins are being revealed to the world and they may (hopefully) never recover from it. Some of them (not enough of them) will land in jail and their leftwing kingpins will probably continue the assassination attempts on Trump and other leaders of his administration because they are all fundamentally evil and have an evil agenda that has been seriously threatened for the first time in my lifetime.

[Mr. Fox]

2 minutes ago, Reciever said:

Steer the topic back towards the threads topic please. Thanks Everyone

Will do. Thanks, brother.