*Official Benchmark Thread* - Post it here or it didn't happen :D

[tps3443]

45 minutes ago, electrosoft said:

While clearing out and organizing emails I forgot I signed up for B&H notifications/waitlist on launch day for the Astral 5090 at $2799 (now $3359) and the $1999 (now $2399) Gigabyte 5090, so I have those floating out there waiting to pop....

 

MSI wasn't available launch day, so I had never signed up for the Suprim or Suprim liquid lol.

 

 

 

 

Are you still planning to get a 5090? Did B&H send you notifications to buy a GPU? 

[electrosoft]

12 minutes ago, tps3443 said:

Are you still planning to get a 5090? Did B&H send you notifications to buy a GPU? 

 

Nope, not yet. I just found it funny I had signed up on launch day but totally forgot lol.

 

I was organizing my email and B&H emails after I signed up for some MSRP 9070xt's and an MSRP Prime 5070 (I love the look of the Asus Prime Cards) and when I went to sort them I said, "Hey, what are these two extra emails from them?" LOL

 

 

[tps3443]

41 minutes ago, electrosoft said:

 

Nope, not yet. I just found it funny I had signed up on launch day but totally forgot lol.

 

I was organizing my email and B&H emails after I signed up for some MSRP 9070xt's and an MSRP Prime 5070 (I love the look of the Asus Prime Cards) and when I went to sort them I said, "Hey, what are these two extra emails from them?" LOL

 

 

Yep BH never sent me a thing either! Some of the notifications that I signed up for even said “You’d be among the first to know” yeah right lol that provided some real false hope. I think these retailers need to offer a virtual line for new products, perform a bot check verification. Hard Limit 1 per person. Maybe hold their spot for 12 hours after notification is sent. This would make it a lot easier. 

 

I didn’t know this. But most of the GPU shortage is coming from scalpers who make a business model of this with all new desirable product launches. Would you believe that one person got (12) 5090FE’s on launch day? They made like $36,000 USD in profit by doing this. These people apparently take advantage of all product launches and try to keep it up as long as possible. It’s pretty crazy. 

[electrosoft]

52 minutes ago, tps3443 said:

Yep BH never sent me a thing either! Some of the notifications that I signed up for even said “You’d be among the first to know” yeah right lol that provided some real false hope. I think these retailers need to offer a virtual line for new products, perform a bot check verification. Hard Limit 1 per person. Maybe hold their spot for 12 hours after notification is sent. This would make it a lot easier. 

 

I didn’t know this. But most of the GPU shortage is coming from scalpers who make a business model of this with all new desirable product launches. Would you believe that one person got (12) 5090FE’s on launch day? They made like $36,000 USD in profit by doing this. These people apparently take advantage of all product launches and try to keep it up as long as possible. It’s pretty crazy. 

 

Which models did you sign up for? I only signed up for those two and skipped all the other ones. I've already turned down three MSRP 5090s already because they weren't the models I wanted and price. $2650 for a Ventus? $3k for a Tuf? A Zotrash for $2600? No thank you. Only models I'd buy are the FE (MSRP), Suprim (All hail MSI) and Astral (Go big or go home). I might pick up the Gigabyte if it pops because it's kinda/sorta on the sub $2500 side of the equation now at $2399.99 but even then I can't say that I would.

 

Let me put it this way. Right now, I want a 9070xt MSRP much more than I want a 5090 MSRP (hence why I was signing up on the waiting list on B&H earlier). I very much want to do some WoW benchmarking with it and see if I could replace my 5080 and have an all AMD rig.

 

Retailers have zero reason or motivation to do that. They want to move as much product as possible as expensive as possible unfortunately. 😞

 

Scalping is a lucrative business. What makes it even harder are individuals who luck up and get a card and then turn right around and scalp it and figure they'll get one when markets normalize. I'm not even mad at the individuals. Making a quick $1k-$3k profit makes sense when you could actually use the $$$ but I completely understand those who want one to use getting irked. When all is said and done, the market always works itself out.

 

Time equalizes supply and demand. It always has.

 

The scalping prices are already slowly coming down. Pre-builts are showing up and staying in stock longer than 5 seconds now (There's a few on MC page that didn't sell today at all). The Skytech 5090 pre-builts lasted all day on BB a few days ago before finally selling. People on the OC thread are slowly, but surely, getting their 5090s with some getting multiples even to bin. When stupid higher end bundles show up on newegg, they actually last awhile now instead of being instantly sold out. These are all signs everything is ever so slowly normalizing.

 

We're less than 2 months into the 5090 launch and things are exactly where I thought they would be. Maybe a touch ahead of the curve actually.

 

 

 

 

 

[Mr. Fox]

Scalpers need to be hunted down until every last one has a lifeless skull filled with lead. They do not deserve the air they breathe. Dead scalpers don't scalp.

[tps3443]

2 hours ago, electrosoft said:

 

Which models did you sign up for? I only signed up for those two and skipped all the other ones. I've already turned down three MSRP 5090s already because they weren't the models I wanted and price. $2650 for a Ventus? $3k for a Tuf? A Zotrash for $2600? No thank you. Only models I'd buy are the FE (MSRP), Suprim (All hail MSI) and Astral (Go big or go home). I might pick up the Gigabyte if it pops because it's kinda/sorta on the sub $2500 side of the equation now at $2399.99 but even then I can't say that I would.

 

Let me put it this way. Right now, I want a 9070xt MSRP much more than I want a 5090 MSRP (hence why I was signing up on the waiting list on B&H earlier). I very much want to do some WoW benchmarking with it and see if I could replace my 5080 and have an all AMD rig.

 

Retailers have zero reason or motivation to do that. They want to move as much product as possible as expensive as possible unfortunately. 😞

 

Scalping is a lucrative business. What makes it even harder are individuals who luck up and get a card and then turn right around and scalp it and figure they'll get one when markets normalize. I'm not even mad at the individuals. Making a quick $1k-$3k profit makes sense when you could actually use the $$$ but I completely understand those who want one to use getting irked. When all is said and done, the market always works itself out.

 

Time equalizes supply and demand. It always has.

 

The scalping prices are already slowly coming down. Pre-builts are showing up and staying in stock longer than 5 seconds now (There's a few on MC page that didn't sell today at all). The Skytech 5090 pre-builts lasted all day on BB a few days ago before finally selling. People on the OC thread are slowly, but surely, getting their 5090s with some getting multiples even to bin. When stupid higher end bundles show up on newegg, they actually last awhile now instead of being instantly sold out. These are all signs everything is ever so slowly normalizing.

 

We're less than 2 months into the 5090 launch and things are exactly where I thought they would be. Maybe a touch ahead of the curve actually.

 

 

 

 

 

I signed up for almost all of them honestly, except for Windforce and Venus models! 😂 This was when AIB prices were more reasonable though. $2,549.99 for a Aorus Extreme Waterforce. (AMAZING DEAL I thought) now it’s like $2,899 which is pretty high. I never received anything from BH, they kept sending me alerts saying. “We did not forget about you etc and we’ll let you know when this item is in-stock” but that’s it. Next GPU launch in a few years, I’m going straight for Nvidia VPA again lol. 
 

Also, you got the best GPU already price vs performance I think. 5080FE@999. I don’t think it gets much better than that. 

[Mr. Fox]

4 hours ago, electrosoft said:

Let me put it this way. Right now, I want a 9070xt MSRP much more than I want a 5090 MSRP (hence why I was signing up on the waiting list on B&H earlier). I very much want to do some WoW benchmarking with it and see if I could replace my 5080 and have an all AMD rig.

I don't have WoW, but here's this. CP2077 4K w/ RT and PT

 SOTR 4K w/ Highest Graphics settings

 Looks like I need to do something about the memory temperatures. The memory chips must need thicker pads. The core max is 61°C but the memory junction is 90°C. But, it runs 3350+ on core with no issues. (I have not tried higher than that.)

  

[jaybee83]

aight boiz, the wait is at an end!

 

for the first time EVER, a notification system actually WORKED 😄 

 

while i was re-installing the soft cover of my little princess car seat after washing (was about time, that thing was NASTY, crumbs n stains galore 😄 ), i glanced at my phone and there it was: an in-stock notification for the RTX 5090 Suprim (Air) at a reputable french online shop!

 

Transferred funds, finalized order, wham bam thank you ma`am! 

 

And just in time, as well, their supply was sold out inside of 10 min.

 

Current info I have is that it will be prepared and shipped out inside of 7 days, should be good!

 

PS: ah yes, pricing LOL. so that was about 160€ below my budgeting limit 🙂 

[electrosoft]

12 hours ago, tps3443 said:

I signed up for almost all of them honestly, except for Windforce and Venus models! 😂 This was when AIB prices were more reasonable though. $2,549.99 for a Aorus Extreme Waterforce. (AMAZING DEAL I thought) now it’s like $2,899 which is pretty high. I never received anything from BH, they kept sending me alerts saying. “We did not forget about you etc and we’ll let you know when this item is in-stock” but that’s it. Next GPU launch in a few years, I’m going straight for Nvidia VPA again lol. 
 

Also, you got the best GPU already price vs performance I think. 5080FE@999. I don’t think it gets much better than that. 

 

Yeah, I never signed up for the bi-weekly updates. I JUST saw that this last time when signing up for 9070xt alerts lol.

 

VPA makes the most sense as does any type of que system. Just get in line and wait your turn. That's what I loved about EVGA. This is my first time ever signing up with B&H. In the past, I usually let the universe sort it out for myself and it has always worked out within 3-4 months of launch if not sooner.

 

And yeah, the 5080FE is bringing all the heat I need actually in most instances, but there are a few spots in WoW like the Theatre event, outdoor raid bosses and Dornogal that I can hit 99% GPU utilization and FPS will be as low as the mid 60's. With this uber tuned 9800X3D, the 5080 hit a wall with very sub 100fps. 66fps on it means ~72-75fps on a 4090 in the same spot = ~95-105fps on a 5090 (in theory assuming the 9800X3D can cap out a 5090 in those same spots).

 

This is 4k Ultra settings RT max.

 

In the end, it's a leisurely entitled itch I wouldn't mind scratching but am ok if I don't too.

 

 

 

10 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

I don't have WoW, but here's this. CP2077 4K w/ RT and PT

 SOTR 4K w/ Highest Graphics settings

 Looks like I need to do something about the memory temperatures. The memory chips must need thicker pads. The core max is 61°C but the memory junction is 90°C. But, it runs 3350+ on core with no issues. (I have not tried higher than that.)

  

 

Very nice! I gotta track down one at a decent price. The $800+ models pop up all the time but that's a hard pass.

 

1 hour ago, jaybee83 said:

aight boiz, the wait is at an end!

 

for the first time EVER, a notification system actually WORKED 😄 

 

while i was re-installing the soft cover of my little princess car seat after washing (was about time, that thing was NASTY, crumbs n stains galore 😄 ), i glanced at my phone and there it was: an in-stock notification for the RTX 5090 Suprim (Air) at a reputable french online shop!

 

Transferred funds, finalized order, wham bam thank you ma`am! 

 

And just in time, as well, their supply was sold out inside of 10 min.

 

Current info I have is that it will be prepared and shipped out insside of 7 days, should be good!

 

PS: ah yes, pricing LOL. so that was about 160€ below my budgeting limit 🙂 

 

 

w00t!!!

 

Patience and holding the line wins!

 

 

 

[jaybee83]

1 minute ago, electrosoft said:

w00t!!!

 

Patience and holding the line wins!

 

 

 

 

abso-frigging-lutely! never ordered at this french shop before, but trustpilot gives it a 96% positive rating with 200k+ reviews, so i think im good 😄 

 

cheapest available in germany was 300€ more, with most offers at 500€ more than what i paid now. can definitely live with that 🙂 

 

now to prepare my 7950X, 4090 Suprim and the V1 AM5 IHS for sale on fleabay. Those together with my SSDs should bring in the 5090 price easily, with 1k+ to spare (good savings baseline for the 6090 LOL)

[tps3443]

55 minutes ago, electrosoft said:

 

Yeah, I never signed up for the bi-weekly updates. I JUST saw that this last time when signing up for 9070xt alerts lol.

 

VPA makes the most sense as does any type of que system. Just get in line and wait your turn. That's what I loved about EVGA. This is my first time ever signing up with B&H. In the past, I usually let the universe sort it out for myself and it has always worked out within 3-4 months of launch if not sooner.

 

And yeah, the 5080FE is bringing all the heat I need actually in most instances, but there are a few spots in WoW like the Theatre event, outdoor raid bosses and Dornogal that I can hit 99% GPU utilization and FPS will be as low as the mid 60's. With this uber tuned 9800X3D, the 5080 hit a wall with very sub 100fps. 66fps on it means ~72-75fps on a 4090 in the same spot = ~95-105fps on a 5090 (in theory assuming the 9800X3D can cap out a 5090 in those same spots).

 

This is 4k Ultra settings RT max.

 

In the end, it's a leisurely entitled itch I wouldn't mind scratching but am ok if I don't too.

 

 

 

 

Very nice! I gotta track down one at a decent price. The $800+ models pop up all the time but that's a hard pass.

 

 

 

w00t!!!

 

Patience and holding the line wins!

 

 

 

How’s your 4090 laptop undervolting? Mine seems to be about 905mv@2355Mhz, or 0.915mv@2,400Mhz. These 79c GPU temps are impressive out of a laptop though. I think we could do something if we had just a little more power. And if I put Liquid Metal on the GPU as well, since we throttle at 86-87c, maybe can get 2,550Mhz out of one of these. I think Liquid Metal on GPU would net me 70-72c GPU temps. 
 

The performance is already really good from a mobile machine. 
 

[Mr. Fox]

1 hour ago, jaybee83 said:

now to prepare my 7950X, 4090 Suprim and the V1 AM5 IHS for sale on fleabay. Those together with my SSDs should bring in the 5090 price easily, with 1k+ to spare (good savings baseline for the 6090 LOL)

If you have an established account at overclock.net I would first list the items in the marketplace here and at overclock.net so you can bypass the fees from peeBay and PayPal. You can count on losing 10% or charging at least 10% more than what you actually want/need to offset the fees. I haven't needed to sell anything on peeBay since I started selling in forum marketplaces.

[Papusan]

1 hour ago, jaybee83 said:

 

abso-frigging-lutely! never ordered at this french shop before, but trustpilot gives it a 96% positive rating with 200k+ reviews, so i think im good 😄 

 

cheapest available in germany was 300€ more, with most offers at 500€ more than what i paid now. can definitely live with that 🙂 

 

now to prepare my 7950X, 4090 Suprim and the V1 AM5 IHS for sale on fleabay. Those together with my SSDs should bring in the 5090 price easily, with 1k+ to spare (good savings baseline for the 6090 LOL)

 

Congrats brother. Nice you got what you wanted. It's typical that France and China shops often get more cards than rest of the other countries. And people in these regions are often the first to get hold in the newest tech. If you see etc new gen HOF cards, be you sure it will pop up in China and France before all other places. 

 

NVIDIA continues to dig deep with its drivers: users unite, frustrated, and launch massive bug reports, all RTX affected

 

RTX 40 GPU owners suffering from BSODs and crashes complain about Nvidia's RTX 50 focus

[tps3443]

2 hours ago, jaybee83 said:

 

abso-frigging-lutely! never ordered at this french shop before, but trustpilot gives it a 96% positive rating with 200k+ reviews, so i think im good 😄 

 

cheapest available in germany was 300€ more, with most offers at 500€ more than what i paid now. can definitely live with that 🙂 

 

now to prepare my 7950X, 4090 Suprim and the V1 AM5 IHS for sale on fleabay. Those together with my SSDs should bring in the 5090 price easily, with 1k+ to spare (good savings baseline for the 6090 LOL)

Did you grab a 5090? AWESOME! I missed your post before! Great find. 

[jaybee83]

1 hour ago, Mr. Fox said:

If you have an established account at overclock.net I would first list the items in the marketplace here and at overclock.net so you can bypass the fees from peeBay and PayPal. You can count on losing 10% or charging at least 10% more than what you actually want/need to offset the fees. I haven't needed to sell anything on peeBay since I started selling in forum marketplaces.

 

no account at overclock.net, have just been a lurker these past few years. but i might do a thread in the marketplace here 🙂 

 

46 minutes ago, Papusan said:

 

Congrats brother. Nice you got what you wanted. It's typical that France and China shops often get more cards than rest of the other countries. And people in these regions are often the first to get hold in the newest tech. If you see etc new gen HOF cards, be you sure it will pop up in China and France before all other places. 

 

NVIDIA continues to dig deep with its drivers: users unite, frustrated, and launch massive bug reports, all RTX affected

 

RTX 40 GPU owners suffering from BSODs and crashes complain about Nvidia's RTX 50 focus

 

huh i had no idea about france in this context! good to know, will expand my hardware searches to french shops then. thats the good thing about the EU, aside from shipping no extra tax/customs for imported goods 🙂 

 

28 minutes ago, tps3443 said:

Did you grab a 5090? 😬

 

yessir 😁

[tps3443]

14 minutes ago, jaybee83 said:

 

no account at overclock.net, have just been a lurker these past few years. but i might do a thread in the marketplace here 🙂 

 

 

huh i had no idea about france in this context! good to know, will expand my hardware searches to french shops then. thats the good thing about the EU, aside from shipping no extra tax/customs for imported goods 🙂 

 

 

yessir 😁

Maybe consider parting your current system out. Probably make more money, and sell things faster. 4090’s are in high DEMAND! Especially the nicer ones.

[jaybee83]

1 hour ago, tps3443 said:

Maybe consider parting your current system out. Probably make more money, and sell things faster. 4090’s are in high DEMAND! Especially the nicer ones.

 

oh im not planning to sell my whole system 😄 so itll definitely be just the parts im upgrading: CPU, SSDs, GPU

 

and yes, im quite optimistic about landing a good price for my 4090 with current market conditions 🙂 

[Papusan]

 

We may see the end of an era with proper performance uplift gen over gen for graphics cards. More like 6700K to 7700K or Haswell to Skylake😀 @Mr. FoxYou'll save a lot money. Or just spend them on extra long vacations with your loved fam. Maybe I can take 2 months vacations in Canary Islands. That would be nice. Already ordered 1 month on my prefered place outside Africa. 2 months continuous down there would be darn fantastic🙂 

 

 

New is always much better... Maybe this will be the upgrades we will see in the future.

 

Just lovely. Dell Alienware couldn't do the same because their tiny AW trash-boxes haven't space or PCIe slot below the primary graphics slot😁

 

[Reciever]

I remember when people use to say that accelero's were too big lol

 

3090Ti from Brother Fox arrived today. It completely dwarfs the arctic cooler, not complaining. I have a bit of a soft spot for these kinds of heatsinks

[Papusan]

On 3/24/2025 at 2:21 AM, electrosoft said:

The scalping prices are already slowly coming down.

 

Well, Zotac goes the opposite way for 5090. And Zotac have always been the cheaper options of the AIB partners, HMMM

 

Does this means the scalpers around in the market places will make less profits? Scalping on top of pre scalping from the AIBs may become less profitable? Remember the most hardcore have probably bought their cards. The mid segment is less keen paying well north of $4000 for gaming cards. Maybe outside all those that earn money from the purchase. 

  

Zotac want to be closer Gigabyte and Asus in prices. Hence they now finally have increased their prices for 5090 series cards. 32GB make it a perfect card for AI creators or demaning tasks. And scalpers love these cards as well. MSRP is all too cheap for these monsters. They should really cost the double price😅 

 

ZOTAC raises GeForce RTX 5090 price to $2700+, MSRP models ‘disappear’

 

 

Payback time. Nvidia joking with those screwed (average Joe) that bought their 8GB 3rd and 4th gen scam of graphics cards. They may get some love when Nvidia launch their 5000 series 8GB cards. Why so difficult to make it work with cards below 12GB vram? 

 

NVIDIA launches Project G-Assist, an AI assistant for GeForce RTX series with 12GB+

[electrosoft]

1 hour ago, Papusan said:

 

Well, Zotac goes the opposite way for 5090. And Zotac have always been the cheaper options of the AIB partners, HMMM

 

Does this means the scalpers around in the market places will make less profits? Scalping on top of pre scalping from the AIBs may become less profitable? Remember the most hardcore have probably bought their cards. The mid segment is less keen paying well north of $4000 for gaming cards. Maybe outside all those that earn money from the purchase. 

  

Zotac want to be closer Gigabyte and Asus in prices. Hence they now finally have increased their prices for 5090 series cards. 32GB make it a perfect card for AI creators or demaning tasks. And scalpers love these cards as well. MSRP is all too cheap for these monsters. They should really cost the double price😅 

 

ZOTAC raises GeForce RTX 5090 price to $2700+, MSRP models ‘disappear’

 

 

Payback time. Nvidia joking with those screwed (average Joe) that bought their 8GB 3rd and 4th gen scam of graphics cards. They may get some love when Nvidia launch their 5000 series 8GB cards. Why so difficult to make it work with cards below 12GB vram? 

 

NVIDIA launches Project G-Assist, an AI assistant for GeForce RTX series with 12GB+

 

I never cared for Zotrash, but if they're pushing their prices up, that is the nail in the coffin removing even the, "well, at least they're priced better than other brands" category.

 

 

[electrosoft]

13 hours ago, Reciever said:

I remember when people use to say that accelero's were too big lol

 

3090Ti from Brother Fox arrived today. It completely dwarfs the arctic cooler, not complaining. I have a bit of a soft spot for these kinds of heatsinks

 

EVGA 3090ti is built like a brick house. When I bought (and returned) one from Amazon, my takeaway was "Best heatsink ever for 3000 series", "$2k for this tiny bit of uplift?" and "This thing is a portable furnace"

 

I wouldn't mind picking one up used and inexpensive too just to have. It is still a solid card but whew is it thicc (in the best way)!