*Official Benchmark Thread* - Post it here or it didn't happen :D

[jaybee83]

1 hour ago, electrosoft said:

 

Congrats brother! I have amassed a pile of gear that will be getting listed soon enough.

 

Unlike hardware that comes and goes, that Mo-Ra and chiller are the gift that will always keep on giving for CPUs, GPUs and RAM. Diminishing returns with boost algorithms? Sure, but you will never get the same benchmarks and scores like you expect.

 

Still debating on the 5090. Those low dip stutters being gone from the 5080 kissing off of low 60fps vs 90-100fps on the 5090 are very telling.....

 

I hate the fact I have zero complaints about this Astral 5090 besides the useless pack ins and price lol....

 

its funny in your special case, since ure usually laser focused on WoW. would u consider the 5090 your endgame? or would that only be at 240+ FPS for 1% lows in WoW? 😄 

[electrosoft]

Yeah houston we have a problem with WoW and 5090...

 

5090 with a basic OC (max GPU/MEM sliders in GPU Tweak III from default settings but nothing else) and now the GPU utilization has dropped to 80% (vs 92% before) vs 99% capped with the 4090 and 5080 in my former "Can cap out any GPU" spot of choice.

 

This is with the frequency basically matching my 4090 which had to be pushed to 1.1 and max power and max fans with the 5090 not having to touch any of that (yet).

 

~170fps is all the 9800X3D can give since GPU utilization was already at 92% before a basic OC.

 

So ~135fps on the 4090 99% GPU utilization at  +1500 on memory and max power/volt fans on max +225 max = 3135mhz

 

vs

 

~170 (+/- 3) fps on the 5090 80% GPU utilization at Max GPU Tweak 3 mem/boost sliders (2838/32202) fans on pure auto = 3127mhz

 

Max idle stock default clocks for the Astral = 2955mhz

Max idle stock OC clocks (no power adjustments) for the Astral = 3217mhz

 

Just using GPU Tweak III atm, but will switch to AB for the next level boom boom.

 

5090 is pretty beastly.....

 

 

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Fallout 76 testing is as expected....

 

X3D was already maxed out with the 4090 in 4k Ultra settings so upgrading from a 7800X3D to a 9800X3D shows the performance gain of going from one to another and not really allowing the 5090 to do much of anything since the 7800X3D was already massively tapped out and my 4090 was CPU bound (IE, GPU Util = 70%), so the 5090 just took that to the next level and is sitting at sub 50% util even with clocks dropping down to ~2ghz.....

 

 

 

 

 

[electrosoft]

1 hour ago, jaybee83 said:

 

its funny in your special case, since ure usually laser focused on WoW. would u consider the 5090 your endgame? or would that only be at 240+ FPS for 1% lows in WoW? 😄 

 

My end game has always been ~144fps locked everywhere, but playing at 4k Ultra 10 RT max, that is always a pipe dream. With the new engine enhancements (again) and The War Within Xpac, Blizzard has again pushed the performance bar up for max settings.

 

The lows are what I focus on since 144fps is fairly modest for the highs. WoW is pretty reliable until you get bombarded with player data and the CPU starts to have to focus elsewhere.

 

5090 is pretty near end game for 4k Ultra 10 RT max and unlike the 4090 which could hit 99% util  and almost hit 144fps in pure render spots (IE, no player data) at 135fps, the 5090 now surpasses that pretty handily with room to spare and leaving the 9800X3D gasping for breath even with no player data, so focusing on the lows now becomes the next holy grail.

 

Honestly, 100fps lows everywhere is good enough for smooth gameplay.

 

My initial goal is 100fps+ for 1% lows, 144fps for highs.

 

But like I said before, the jump from the 5080 -> 5090 immediately cleared up that stutter/chunk from hitting close to 60fps in some scenarios and those are the avg so you know the 1% is dipping below that.

 

As I was flying over to test my go to spot, seeing 300fps+ in some spots in Hallowfall (newest Xpac zone) at 4k Ultra 10 RT max was pretty awesome....

 

5090's are pricey AF, but there is no doubt they are monsters.

 

Crazy part? I didn't hear any coil whine while I was basking in those 300fps with my speakers at low (wifey is watching "The Equalizer" in the other room)...

 

 

 

[Papusan]

Not bad with the oldest Win 11 version no one want anymore🙂 Weird Blackwell chip don't recover after a driver crash as older ADA did. So newer has to be better. Always😀

 

https://hwbot.org/benchmarks/3dmark_-_port_royal/submissions/5818220?recalculate=true

 

https://www.3dmark.com/hall-of-fame-2/port+royal+3dmark+score+performance+preset/version+1.0

 

 

https://www.3dmark.com/hall-of-fame-2/fire+strike+3dmark+score+extreme+preset/version+1.1

 

[electrosoft]

The WoW engine and how it processes player data just can't mesh with 4k Ultra 10 RT and a super powerful GPU. Either the engine needs to be overhauled or we need a much beefier CPU to drop.

 

This is the new out door raid boss, 33 players out of a max of 40 (imagine 40, ugh), full tilt and yeah, GPU Util 22% because of all the FX and data. There is a reason WoW has two different settings between raid/pvp and normal because it just can't really handle the load properly.

 

When fed properly, the 5080, 4090 and 5090 can soar in WoW but the same, classic issues are there and then some.

 

At least with the 5090 it stays in the upper 60's range even at 22% utilization but still.....just bad. 🤣 5090 is being wasted.

 

 

Fallout 76 is in the same boat with the 4090/5090 with any gains coming from the upgrade from the 7800X3D -> 9800X3D because the GPUs are held back by either CPU and both those processors just crush all of Intel's offers badly in FO76.

 

5090 is just too powerful for both WoW and FO76 at full tilt 4k and engine/cpu limitations has it twiddling its thumbs.

 

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I'm going to test this still unopened 9070xt I have sitting on the table. I do remember the 7900xtx being hot garbage in FO76 vs Nvidia. The best pairing by far was the X3D + Nvidia for FO76. Same held true for WoW but I want to see how far they've come. I also want to re-collect some FO76 data for the 5080 too.

 

 

[Papusan]

1 hour ago, electrosoft said:

5090 is just too powerful for both WoW and FO76 at full tilt 4k and engine/cpu limitations has it twiddling its thumbs.

 

Yup, 5090 is a fast card. Global 1th place GPUPI v3.3 1B Hall Of Fame

 

Beating the XOC 😁https://hwbot.org/benchmarks/gpupi_v3.3_-_1b/rankings?cores=1&hardwareType=gpu

 

Me right now @Prema 🤩 +3.5GHz

 

https://hwbot.org/benchmarks/gpupi_v3.3_-_1b/submissions/5818263

[jaybee83]

11 hours ago, electrosoft said:

But like I said before, the jump from the 5080 -> 5090 immediately cleared up that stutter/chunk from hitting close to 60fps in some scenarios and those are the avg so you know the 1% is dipping below that.

 

this is one of the reasons that convinced me to jump onto the 5090 "hype train(wreck)" 😄 its ability to push many games im interested in from the 30-40fps range into 60+ range while maxed out with RT (at worst, with DLSS quality enabled, IDGAF about FG or lower than Qual DLSS).

 

3 hours ago, Papusan said:

 

Yup, 5090 is a fast card. Global 1th place GPUPI v3.3 1B Hall Of Fame

 

Beating the XOC 😁https://hwbot.org/benchmarks/gpupi_v3.3_-_1b/rankings?cores=1&hardwareType=gpu

 

Me right now @Prema 🤩 +3.5GHz

 

https://hwbot.org/benchmarks/gpupi_v3.3_-_1b/submissions/5818263

 

daaaaaaaayum!

[Mr. Fox]

Transformation complete. All self-contained. Gene seems happy with the new work environment.
 

[electrosoft]

10 hours ago, Papusan said:

 

Yup, 5090 is a fast card. Global 1th place GPUPI v3.3 1B Hall Of Fame

 

Beating the XOC 😁https://hwbot.org/benchmarks/gpupi_v3.3_-_1b/rankings?cores=1&hardwareType=gpu

 

Me right now @Prema 🤩 +3.5GHz

 

https://hwbot.org/benchmarks/gpupi_v3.3_-_1b/submissions/5818263

 

Bringing the pain @Papusan! Nice!

 

6 hours ago, jaybee83 said:

 

this is one of the reasons that convinced me to jump onto the 5090 "hype train(wreck)" 😄 its ability to push many games im interested in from the 30-40fps range into 60+ range while maxed out with RT (at worst, with DLSS quality enabled, IDGAF about FG or lower than Qual DLSS).

 

 

Agreed, the power resides in the lows. That is where the 5090 is shining in WoW.

 

26 minutes ago, Mr. Fox said:

Transformation complete. All self-contained. Gene seems happy with the new work environment.
 

 

So you're down to two main rigs now? I always liked the whole black/wite/bluish look. Very industrial.

 

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Delidding the 9950x really drops the temps and power draw, damn....

 

 

 

[Mr. Fox]

50 minutes ago, electrosoft said:

So you're down to two main rigs now? I always liked the whole black/wite/bluish look. Very industrial.

Thank you. That industrial look is my favorite. Yup, down to two rigs, at least until (if) the X870E Apex ships. I don't know if I will keep the B850 board currently powering my work PC, but probably will. It's pretty solid and it was very inexpensive. 

 

The Antec Constellation C8 is an excellent case, but borderline too small. For an AIO (or even dual AIO for CPU and GPU) the C8 is perfect. Custom loops just take up a lot of space. The external cooling loop is so much easier and is case-agnostic.

 

Doing the bottom radiator in push/pull and fitting the distribution manifold was quite a challenge. Nothing is difficult to access, but the volume is limiting. The O11D XL EVO doesn't seem that much larger looking at it, but it is significantly larger in ways that matter. Lian Li was smart to involve @der8auer in the engineering of it. I think going forward that is the only case I am going to purchase. It's not perfect, but very close. Super easy to build a custom loop inside of it without having to cut so many corners to get things to fit.

 

The O11D XL EVO is waiting for its next victim. It was hard forcing myself to sell the Z790 Apex and 14900KS, but I'm sure the new owner will love it as much as I did. Computers are like kids. You have to learn to let them go when they get older.