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[Papusan]

1 hour ago, Mr. Fox said:

Yeah, the non-XT is pretty silly. Speaking of that, this was a pretty entertaining video.

 

 

This just show how they (AMD) lure people. There is no reason to offer firmware with castrated power budget. They do this to upsell next tier in their price range. Desktop parts as etc graphics cards shouldn't be treated as mobil junk so it can work in limited space as in tiny and slimy jokebooks.   

[electrosoft]

3 hours ago, tps3443 said:

 

We can repair FE models too which is kinda cool! I think a lot of 4090’s ended up with a micro crack or broken PCB/PCIe. Just grab a 5070fe and throw the PCIe on your 5090 if it breaks. In the instance someone tried to use your GPU as a step. 🤣

 

I don't think that's the win you think it is. 🤣

 

"Just grab a ~$575 after tax unicorn 5070FE and viola! Repairio Fixumdulus!!!"

 

2 hours ago, Papusan said:

 

This just show how they (AMD) lure people. There is no reason to offer firmware with castrated power budget. They do this to upsell next tier in their price range. Desktop parts as etc graphics cards shouldn't be treated as mobil junk so it can work in limited space as in tiny and slimy jokebooks.   

 

Kinda like Nvidia and the 5080 holding back so much clock and memory speed.....

 

You can just SMELL that 5080 Super in 10 months! 🤣

 

Or Intel selling silicon with plenty in the tank for years just to bin it up in 6 months to offer a faster version for more money...

 

Corporations just Corporating as expected.....

 

 

[tps3443]

12 hours ago, electrosoft said:

 

I don't think that's the win you think it is. 🤣

 

"Just grab a ~$575 after tax unicorn 5070FE and viola! Repairio Fixumdulus!!!"

 

 

Kinda like Nvidia and the 5080 holding back so much clock and memory speed.....

 

You can just SMELL that 5080 Super in 10 months! 🤣

 

Or Intel selling silicon with plenty in the tank for years just to bin it up in 6 months to offer a faster version for more money...

 

Corporations just Corporating as expected.....

 

 

This would probably cost $700+ range for one on eBay from the re-sellers. But there are PCB shops that can custom make PCB's. You send them what you have, they scan it and then they make you a replica. Would probably be cheaper to go that route since it is such a small part. 

 I was wondering if you could run Firestrike and Solar bay benchmark and share your results. I'm curious what the 9800X3D or 14900KS are performing like here. @Papusan and @win32asmguy and @jaybee83 and @Talon You all have 5090's as well. If you all want to share some CPU limited 3Dmark benchmarks would be helpful. 

[Papusan]

2 hours ago, tps3443 said:

This would probably cost $700+ range for one on eBay from the re-sellers. But there are PCB shops that can custom make PCB's. You send them what you have, they scan it and then they make you a replica. Would probably be cheaper to go that route since it is such a small part. 

 I was wondering if you could run Firestrike and Solar bay benchmark and share your results. I'm curious what the 9800X3D or 14900KS are performing like here. @Papusan and @win32asmguy and @jaybee83 and @Talon You all have 5090's as well. If you all want to share some CPU limited 3Dmark benchmarks would be helpful. 

 

Different OS will give different results. There is no "fits all" anymore. 

 

https://www.3dmark.com/fs/33189868

 

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[tps3443]

1 hour ago, Papusan said:

 

Different OS will give different results. There is no "fits all" anymore. 

 

https://www.3dmark.com/fs/33189868

 

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My score is terrible. I get good performance in Fire strike GT2. But I cannot get any GPU usage to go up on GT1. Same thing with the physics test. It only uses like 30% of my CPU. And the combined test is even worse. I want to figure out why the benchmark runs so terribly. 

Makes no sense how GT1= 130fps@30% GPU Usage, and GT2= is over 370fps@100% GPU Usage.


NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5090 video card benchmark result - Intel Xeon W-3175X Processor,ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC. ROG DOMINUS EXTREME

[Papusan]

5 minutes ago, tps3443 said:

My score is terrible. I get good performance in Fire strike GT2. But I cannot get any GPU usage to go up on GT1. Same thing with the physics test. It only uses like 30% of my CPU. And the combined test is even worse. I want to figure out why the benchmark runs so terribly. 

Makes no sense how GT1= 130fps@30% GPU Usage, and GT2= is over 370fps@100% GPU Usage.


NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5090 video card benchmark result - Intel Xeon W-3175X Processor,ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC. ROG DOMINUS EXTREME

 

Older Fire Strike don't scale well with loads of cores. Either try disable half of the cores or try disable HT. 

[tps3443]

Yes this is a mess! 


 

[Mr. Fox]

20 minutes ago, Papusan said:

 

Older Fire Strike don't scale well with loads of cores. Either try disable half of the cores or try disable HT. 

 

18 minutes ago, tps3443 said:

Yes this is a mess! 


 

If you do what @Papusan suggested probably everything, including physics and combined test, will increase. With 13900/14900K/KF/KS you have to drop down to 29 total threads to get the best results. So, disabling 3 e-cores on that CPU.

[tps3443]

24 minutes ago, Mr. Fox said:

 

If you do what @Papusan suggested probably everything, including physics and combined test, will increase. With 13900/14900K/KF/KS you have to drop down to 29 total threads to get the best results. So, disabling 3 e-cores on that CPU.

Im going to give it a try. In real world gaming I swear I don’t have this issue. The thing really rips and impresses me for how old it is. 
 

Also, I just updated my bios this morning I went from 0408 to 0901 and I retained the old ME. So my Cinebench scores are good, but the bios is new from 2025 instead of 2018. So far so good! 
 

 

[johnksss]

3 hours ago, tps3443 said:

My score is terrible. I get good performance in Fire strike GT2. But I cannot get any GPU usage to go up on GT1. Same thing with the physics test. It only uses like 30% of my CPU. And the combined test is even worse. I want to figure out why the benchmark runs so terribly. 

Makes no sense how GT1= 130fps@30% GPU Usage, and GT2= is over 370fps@100% GPU Usage.


NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5090 video card benchmark result - Intel Xeon W-3175X Processor,ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC. ROG DOMINUS EXTREME

Hummm, 28 cores. Try just disabling HT and see what you come back with first.

[tps3443]

3 hours ago, johnksss said:

Hummm, 28 cores. Try just disabling HT and see what you come back with first.

The thing cooks on system ram bandwidth and latency at least. 🙂



 

[Mr. Fox]

So, the Gigabyte 4090 Gaming OC is on its way to the new owner and the Apex and 14900KS was delivered to its new owner today. Net on the sale of those parts was $2500. Not too shabby. I sold the GPU for what I paid for it new, not counting the waterblock.

[tps3443]

27 minutes ago, Mr. Fox said:

So, the Gigabyte 4090 Gaming OC is on its way to the new owner and the Apex and 14900KS was delivered to its new owner today. Net on the sale of those parts was $2500. Not too shabby. I sold the GPU for what I paid for it new, not counting the waterblock.

Coincidentally just enough for a 5090! LOL 🤩

[tps3443]

10 hours ago, Papusan said:

 

Different OS will give different results. There is no "fits all" anymore. 

 

https://www.3dmark.com/fs/33189868

 

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I am coming for you on the graphics score!!! LOL jk. I had to kick my grandpa of a CPU in the rear and get it going just a bit. And blew the dust off just a bit. Honestly, I just did Shift+L in MSI AB and this helped A LOT! Now, I am going to OC the graphics card and see if I can improve a little more. This run is completely stock GPU. Auto fan, 100% PL, 0% voltage. And about 2,600+ boost range. 

This CPU is trash in Firestrike though. 🤣

Pretty sure my 4090 got like 75k in Firestrike Graphics score with a different CPU. 

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5090 video card benchmark result - Intel Xeon W-3175X Processor,ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC. ROG DOMINUS EXTREME


I can hit the FPS in GT2 comparable to 9800X3D in top 100. But, in GT1? LOL. Maybe only 1/4 or 1/5 the same FPS as a 9800X3D. It makes no sense. 🤔

[electrosoft]

59 minutes ago, Mr. Fox said:

So, the Gigabyte 4090 Gaming OC is on its way to the new owner and the Apex and 14900KS was delivered to its new owner today. Net on the sale of those parts was $2500. Not too shabby. I sold the GPU for what I paid for it new, not counting the waterblock.

 

Congrats brother!

 

31 minutes ago, tps3443 said:

Coincidentally just enough for a 5090! LOL 🤩

 

I thought the same thing. 🤣

[tps3443]

Okay, I hit 74k graphics. Still not great, lots left in the 5090 potential wise. I guess all of the remaining score is left over in GT1 test. I’ve just left the 5090 stock since I’m not even tapping its potential in.

 

I got 74K graphics score seems topped out there. That’s what my 14900KS/4090 combo did as well. 
 

 

https://www.3dmark.com/fs/33212212

[Mr. Fox]

1 hour ago, tps3443 said:

Coincidentally just enough for a 5090! LOL 🤩

 

1 hour ago, electrosoft said:

Congrats brother!

 

I thought the same thing. 🤣

It is enough but I don't want one. I can think of a lot of better ways to spend $2500. NVIDIA can kiss my butt. 

[johnksss]

https://www.3dmark.com/fs/33211678

 

https://www.3dmark.com/fs/33211691

[tps3443]

14 minutes ago, johnksss said:

https://www.3dmark.com/fs/33211678

 

https://www.3dmark.com/fs/33211691

What did you do to the 285K to make it score so much better? 

[johnksss]

13 minutes ago, tps3443 said:

What did you do to the 285K to make it score so much better? 

I guess the real question would be, better than what? LOL

 

As for this Firestrike benchmark. You have to find the right core count and get test one in the 400 fps range. Then you can run the full bench.

[jaybee83]

5 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

 

It is enough but I don't want one. I can think of a lot of better ways to spend $2500. NVIDIA can kiss my butt. 

 

soooo.....whats the plan for the new budget? 😁

 

1-2 more days of benching and then the 5090 goes into my system 🙂 

[Mr. Fox]

58 minutes ago, jaybee83 said:

 

soooo.....whats the plan for the new budget? 😁

 

1-2 more days of benching and then the 5090 goes into my system 🙂 

Trying to hang onto the money for my X870E Apex pre-order. That is, assuming the pre-order price remains the same. If not I may cancel it. Thinking about cancelling it anyhow. I doubt it will give me anything that that I don't already have in terms of performance with either the X670E Gene or B850 AORUS Elite (which performs almost the same as the Gene). So, I am starting to doubt that is is going to deliver enough bang for buck. In spite of the retarded $800 price tag it looks as though A$$zeus totally screwed up the PCIe lane allocation and wasted resources on things that don't matter, like USB4 and WiF7 and didn't include something useful like a slimSAS port. It's got a bunch or worthless PCIe slots that are only usable if you are OK with the GPU getting castrated to 50% (X8) bandwidth. The clowns at A$$zeu are truly idiots. About the only way I would be able to use it the way I want to is to buy an NVMe to PCIe X4 riser with a long cable to run my Sabrent quad NVMe card. Give up one NVMe slot and add four. 

 

I ordered a second Thermal Grizzly Mycro direct die block so I will be ready when I delid the second 9950X. I like that better than the TG IHS. I also ordered bunch of high CFM/high pressure fans, two Heatkiller radiators and an Alphacool X-Flow radiator to go inside of the O11D XL EVO case. I am going to sell the MORA radiator and go with an all-internal build in that case since it has tons of room for push-pull in every spot. The X-Flow will go in the back panel and connect the top and bottom radiators. I am going to use the EK manifold with QDC fittings at one end and ball valves at input side so if I want to use the chiller I can simply close the ball valves on the internal system to bypass radiators and plug in the QDC fittings from the chiller lines.

[johnksss]

6 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

Trying to hang onto the money for my X870E Apex pre-order. That is, assuming the pre-order price remains the same. If not I may cancel it. Thinking about cancelling it anyhow. I doubt it will give me anything that that I don't already have in terms of performance with either the X670E Gene or B850 AORUS Elite (which performs almost the same as the Gene). So, I am starting to doubt that is is going to deliver enough bang for buck. In spite of the retarded $800 price tag it looks as though A$$zeus totally screwed up the PCIe lane allocation and wasted resources on things that don't matter, like USB4 and WiF7 and didn't include something useful like a slimSAS port. It's got a bunch or worthless PCIe slots that are only usable if you are OK with the GPU getting castrated to 50% (X8) bandwidth. The clowns at A$$zeu are truly idiots. About the only way I would be able to use it the way I want to is to buy an NVMe to PCIe X4 riser with a long cable to run my Sabrent quad NVMe card. Give up one NVMe slot and add four. 

 

I ordered a second Thermal Grizzly Mycro direct die block so I will be ready when I delid the second 9950X. I like that better than the TG IHS. I also ordered bunch of high CFM/high pressure fans, two Heatkiller radiators and an Alphacool X-Flow radiator to go inside of the O11D XL EVO case. I am going to sell the MORA radiator and go with an all-internal build in that case since it has tons of room for push-pull in every spot. The X-Flow will go in the back panel and connect the top and bottom radiators. I am going to use the EK manifold with QDC fittings at one end and ball valves at input side so if I want to use the chiller I can simply close the ball valves on the internal system to bypass radiators and plug in the QDC fittings from the chiller lines.

How much are you selling the Mora Radiator for?

[tps3443]

9 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

Trying to hang onto the money for my X870E Apex pre-order. That is, assuming the pre-order price remains the same. If not I may cancel it. Thinking about cancelling it anyhow. I doubt it will give me anything that that I don't already have in terms of performance with either the X670E Gene or B850 AORUS Elite (which performs almost the same as the Gene). So, I am starting to doubt that is is going to deliver enough bang for buck. In spite of the retarded $800 price tag it looks as though A$$zeus totally screwed up the PCIe lane allocation and wasted resources on things that don't matter, like USB4 and WiF7 and didn't include something useful like a slimSAS port. It's got a bunch or worthless PCIe slots that are only usable if you are OK with the GPU getting castrated to 50% (X8) bandwidth. The clowns at A$$zeu are truly idiots. About the only way I would be able to use it the way I want to is to buy an NVMe to PCIe X4 riser with a long cable to run my Sabrent quad NVMe card. Give up one NVMe slot and add four. 

 

I ordered a second Thermal Grizzly Mycro direct die block so I will be ready when I delid the second 9950X. I like that better than the TG IHS. I also ordered bunch of high CFM/high pressure fans, two Heatkiller radiators and an Alphacool X-Flow radiator to go inside of the O11D XL EVO case. I am going to sell the MORA radiator and go with an all-internal build in that case since it has tons of room for push-pull in every spot. The X-Flow will go in the back panel and connect the top and bottom radiators. I am going to use the EK manifold with QDC fittings at one end and ball valves at input side so if I want to use the chiller I can simply close the ball valves on the internal system to bypass radiators and plug in the QDC fittings from the chiller lines.

The motherboard is probably going to be diminishing return item for sure. But of course it’s still awesome. You probably already have peak performance though.

Your build is about like what I did. I stepped way back from the XOC extreme master mega cooler power builds lol. I got my fill of it. I wanted a nice quiet reliable rig that was stable and just worked. If I ever want to go back, I have my test bench and chiller waiting. I’m definitely happy with my upcoming home electricity bill a whopping $158 dollars for an entire month. 🤯 

 

Anyways, I really like my recent build, and I’m glad I finally found a case that works for me. But I will say be careful. $2,500 can go quick on these little PC parts. Oh my goodness. My build turned in to a money pit real quick ordering little bits here and there. If I could have had a larger budget, I would have gone full insano with it LOL. But, I’m going to keep adding to it slowly. 
 

Also, let me know how those German Watercool radiators perform. Which ones did you get?

[Mr. Fox]

6 hours ago, johnksss said:

How much are you selling the Mora Radiator for?

I haven't given it much thought, Brother John. I just finished cleaning it up and flushing it out and letting it dry. It will probably be fairly expensive to ship it. Let me give it some thought and I will text you. 

2 hours ago, tps3443 said:

The motherboard is probably going to be diminishing return item for sure. But of course it’s still awesome. You probably already have peak performance though.

Your build is about like what I did. I stepped way back from the XOC extreme master mega cooler power builds lol. I got my fill of it. I wanted a nice quiet reliable rig that was stable and just worked. If I ever want to go back, I have my test bench and chiller waiting. I’m definitely happy with my upcoming home electricity bill a whopping $158 dollars for an entire month. 🤯 

 

Anyways, I really like my recent build, and I’m glad I finally found a case that works for me. But I will say be careful. $2,500 can go quick on these little PC parts. Oh my goodness. My build turned in to a money pit real quick ordering little bits here and there. If I could have had a larger budget, I would have gone full insano with it LOL. But, I’m going to keep adding to it slowly. 
 

Also, let me know how those German Watercool radiators perform. Which ones did you get?

I bought two of these. https://www.titanrig.com/watercool-heatkiller-360-l-radiator-black-0330wc013201on.html and one of these to connect the top one to the bottom one. https://www.titanrig.com/alphacool-nexxxos-xt45-full-copper-x-flow-radiator-360mm-triple-fan-black-0330ac014501on.html and I ordered $200 (12 more) of these awesome fans. They're my favorite. Almost as good as P12 MAX but I think made better. They weigh a ton. The last two 3-packs I purchased were insanely good. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DJ45JWL1?th=1 I wish they made an option for reverse blades.

 

As far as the motherboard goes and whether or not it will be awesome, that's the thing. It is probably NOT AWESOME. I am skeptical and concerned it is going to be totally a screwed up POS. The totally botched up PCIe lane allocation would make it hard for me to view it as a good product. If it was going to turn out right, why the hell has the release been pushed out so many times. It's a bad sign. And, it is the only 2-DIMM board. Really sucks how all of the dumba$$ motherboard OEMs crank out tons of 4-DIMM feces.

 

The problem is, nothing new is awesome. Everything new new is pretty much rubbish, extremely overpriced, or even worse, extremely overpriced trash. I don't believe the people running the show and calling the shots in the PC tech development realm have anything but dung for brains now. A bunch of idiot monkeys trying to molest a football because their mama said no to it. Now that they have their idiot AI crap to chase, they've lost their minds and have themselves become "artifically intelligent" LOL.

 

One of the pluses and minuses of Ryzen is that almost everyone has peak performance, whether it is good or not. There isn't much difference between silicon samples, performance is muted and they're generally not very good at overclocking. Performance is strong, but it's pretty much a belly-button product wearing a halo and pretending to be something special. Unless you're a really unlucky person, or an exceptionally lucky fellow, you're going to be a member of the normal club. Everyone gets a trophy for participating. The only reason I own one is that it's not Core Ultra chiplet smartphone core trash.