*Official Benchmark Thread* - Post it here or it didn't happen :D

[tps3443]

7 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

Many of the Quadro cards have been a GeForce equivalent with some minor variances, but locked down with no voltage, core or memory clock modifications. I don't know if this overpriced "Pro" is like that or not. Has anyone been crazy enough to buy one and explore overclocking once they received it? The intended market is not one that cares about overclocking or gaming and it may not do either one as well.

Well, I think they are going to be even more power limited than a RTX 5090. We have 96GB of GDDR7, and more cuda cores. But they are still faster. They also have the ECC enabled just like the RTX 4090. From what I have learned, this can be turned off through NVCP just like the 4090’s. I think the cards can be overclocked. But they are expensive. But nothing like we’ve ever seen before. A true work station GPU that can compete/beat the gamer parts! And it’s not $20,000 dollars. 
 

@electrosoft I found the PCB of the actual RTX 6000 Pro “Work station Edition with the 600w power limit” and it’s legit a 5090 FE twin, Nvidia made it even denser and soldered the vram right on the backside. Crazy! I feel like we’d only be able to find better deals on these in the future. Nice to see the RTX 6000 Pro is usable as an all around beast though. 
 

 

 

[Mr. Fox]

5 hours ago, jaybee83 said:

first thought was of bro @Mr. Fox getting one of those. imagine him skipping the 5090 but getting a 6000 pro instead 😄 

The allure of new PC component toys lives on and will likely never die, but the absurdly high non-scalper retail price I paid for the 4090 Suprim was already on the ragged edge of sanity. AI. Even the 4090 Gaming OC was a poor value at $500+ less. AI. So high, in fact, AI, that the pride and pleasure of ownership was greatly diminished by their ludicrous price tags. AI. The notion of spending an extra $1,000 or more for a 5090 makes me both sad and angry. AI. This is unrelated to any tariffs and absent any effect they may or may not be having; just (AI) a poor value overall and just not worth it. AI. The 50-series engineering flaws, scandalous performance limiting tactics, driver and functionality glitches we have witnessed would have pushed me over the edge. AI. I feel like I need to excuse myself from the table at this point. 

 

Sorry for the mindless use of "AI" but I guess that's how things are done now. AI. Mindlessness is the cornerstone of artificial intelligence.

[electrosoft]

4 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

The allure of new PC component toys lives on and will likely never die, but the absurdly high non-scalper retail price I paid for the 4090 Suprim was already on the ragged edge of sanity. AI. Even the 4090 Gaming OC was a poor value at $500+ less. AI. So high, in fact, AI, that the pride and pleasure of ownership was greatly diminished by their ludicrous price tags. AI. The notion of spending an extra $1,000 or more for a 5090 makes me both sad and angry. AI. This is unrelated to any tariffs and absent any effect they may or may not be having; just (AI) a poor value overall and just not worth it. AI. The 50-series engineering flaws, scandalous performance limiting tactics, driver and functionality glitches we have witnessed would have pushed me over the edge. AI. I feel like I need to excuse myself from the table at this point. 

 

Sorry for the mindless use of "AI" but I guess that's how things are done now. AI. Mindlessness is the cornerstone of artificial intelligence.

 

The one saving grace, and a big reason I held onto my 5090, was the fact that cycle after cycle at the end I've been able to sell off my GPUs and make back everything I sunk into them or more since Pascal. Actually if I think about it since even my EVGA 980GTX's I sold off one when I found out WoW didn't scale with SLI and then the other right before I bought a 1080ti and got back the bulk of what I paid.

 

Sure, upfront costs hurt but you know in a few years you're going to get back the bulk of what you paid if not more.

 

Something to chew on....

 

 

[Mr. Fox]

20 hours ago, electrosoft said:

 

The one saving grace, and a big reason I held onto my 5090, was the fact that cycle after cycle at the end I've been able to sell off my GPUs and make back everything I sunk into them or more since Pascal. Actually if I think about it since even my EVGA 980GTX's I sold off one when I found out WoW didn't scale with SLI and then the other right before I bought a 1080ti and got back the bulk of what I paid.

 

Sure, upfront costs hurt but you know in a few years you're going to get back the bulk of what you paid if not more.

 

Something to chew on....

Definitely some truth to all that. The idea of rewarding bad behavior by supporting it still doesn't set well with me. The only way there is a chance that it will get better is if we can coordinate (conspire, boycott... whatever) to bring the pain and inflict retribution in a way that discourages the continuance of it. That will likely never happen because people don't think long-term and big picture. They only think about what they want right now, not what is best for them and certainly not what is best for everyone collectively. If enough of us were to commit to not purchasing any new NVIDIA GPUs and we drove their new GPU sales into the toilet to a catastrophic and severely alarming rate that is financially unsustainable the prices wouldn't stay so ludicrous. They'd be dumping stock to try to keep the lights on. This is what needs to happen.

 

They need to be outsold by Arc and Radeon cards like a 5 to 1 ratio to get them to pull their heads out. A couple of quarters like that would produce the level of panic, frenetic anxiety and chaos that NVIDIA and their shareholders deserve. Here's to hoping 2025 brings financial catastrophy to them.

[tps3443]

7 hours ago, electrosoft said:

 

The one saving grace, and a big reason I held onto my 5090, was the fact that cycle after cycle at the end I've been able to sell off my GPUs and make back everything I sunk into them or more since Pascal. Actually if I think about it since even my EVGA 980GTX's I sold off one when I found out WoW didn't scale with SLI and then the other right before I bought a 1080ti and got back the bulk of what I paid.

 

Sure, upfront costs hurt but you know in a few years you're going to get back the bulk of what you paid if not more.

 

Something to chew on....

 

 

No kidding. I remember buying my 4090 for $1,350 literally 6 months before 5090 came out, and everyone was like: “Why are you buying this high end GPU so late in the cycle, these are gonna be $500-$600 bucks soon” 🤣🤣🤣 I loved it well for 6 solid months, and sold it for $1,500 and that alone was priced so low some people thought it was a scam lol. So you probably will get all your money back. Maybe it’s best to sell 1 month after the 6090 already launches. Then people get a little desperate. 

[electrosoft]

6 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

Definitely some trusth to all that. The idea of rewarding bad behavior by supporting it still doesn't set well with me. The only way there is a chance that it will get better is if we can coordinate (conspire, boycott... whatever) to bring the pain and inflict retribution in a way that discourages the continuance of it. That will likely never happen because people don't think long-term and big picture. They only think about what they want right now, not what is best for them and certainly not what is best for everyone collectively. If enough of us were to commit to not purchasing any new NVIDIA GPUs and we drove their new GPU sales into the toilet to a catastrophic and severely alarming rate that is financially unsustainable the prices wouldn't stay so ludicrous. They'd be dumping stock to try to keep the lights on. This is what needs to happen.

 

They need to be outsold by Arc and Radeon cards like a 5 to 1 ratio to get them to pull their heads out. A couple of quarters like that would produce the level of panic, frenetic anxiety and chaos that NVIDIA and their shareholders deserve. Here's to hoping 2025 brings financial catastrophy to them.

 

Intel is already making inroads down low and the 9070 series is selling so well Nvidia is rumored to be pushing up their time tables for Super variants with more memory. If there was no AMD or Intel, it would be so much worse.

 

What I think is going to happen is they are going to get Intel'd. They are so focused on AI right now they have taken their foot off the brake and have taken on a mantle of arrogant presumption in the gamer GPU market. They obviously do care to a degree because when presented with real market competition, they responded appropriately. For example, they brought all the heat with the 4090 in response to AMD being so close with the 6000 vs 3000 top end series. They enhanced and lowered the price of the 4080 Super over the 4080 to compete with the 7900xtx on price and performance and now we see them upping their time tables on the 5070/5070ti Supers to counter what appears to be the wildly successful 9070/xt.

 

But still, they are coasting in the lower and mid range a bit and I think it will cost them against the 9070. This is how you slowly lose a war.

 

If AMD and Intel make enough inroads along with the AI market cooling off eventually, they may find themselves scrambling all of a sudden.

 

5090 is an absolute behemoth. No getting around that and it is vastly out performing day 1 reviews depending on game(s) played but the pricing is ridiculous.  Even $2k for an FE is ridiculous. In no way, shape or form should we normalize that kind of pricing and think $2k for a consumer level GPU is "good." Instead, it is "less bad." than AIB pricing.

 

But right now Nvidia rules the roost and I think of all the years I picked up Intel chips with Skylake++++ knowing it was a rehash or the same node because I'm an enthusiast and want to play with the newest toys. History continues to repeat itself...

 

1 hour ago, tps3443 said:

No kidding. I remember buying my 4090 for $1,350 literally 6 months before 5090 came out, and everyone was like: “Why are you buying this high end GPU so late in the cycle, these are gonna be $500-$600 bucks soon” 🤣🤣🤣 I loved it well for 6 solid months, and sold it for $1,500 and that alone was priced so low some people thought it was a scam lol. So you probably will get all your money back. Maybe it’s best to sell 1 month after the 6090 already launches. Then people get a little desperate. 

 

Yeah, I really think it will be it all over again with a $2499.99 6090 Founders at this rate and $3k-$4k AIB models to follow. Each cycle I get closer and closer to "launch day" for the new cards for selling my old cards and each time I'm finding out waiting till after for the inevitable shortage might be the right time to sell but I prefer a sure thing and not be overly greedy. I am more than content to break even or if it happens lose a little. If two years from now I can turn around and sell my Astral 5090 for even $3k, I am good to go and very happy. Break even or more? I'm over the moon.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Mr. Fox]

I am really liking this build with the triple 360 rads. I did manage to shoehorn the IceMan dual D5 unit in front of the bottom radiator, so a total of three D5 pumps internally. I had to fabricate a mounting bracket from 2x2 aluminum angle to mount it to the chassis because the original bracket on the dual D5 was not designed for this orientation. So, the liquid path is from dual pump to GPU,  GPU out to pump/res, from there to CPU inlet, from CPU outlet to top radiator in, top radiator to back radiator, back radiator (x-flow) to bottom radiator, then from bottom radiator into dual D5 block. GPU will get the coolest water.

 

Brother @johnksss I also figured out how to easily switch between internal cooling to chiller without radiators. Note the QD3 fitting on the IceMan dual D5 inlet. I simply detach that, connect the chiller out line there and disconnect the QD fitting on the CPU block outlet to attach the chiller return line. This utilizes all three internal pumps without the radiators along with the single D5 mounted to the chiller body. Inline filters are on both pump block outlets to the GPU and CPU, so dual filtration to help keep trash out of the waterblocks.

 

With all of this stuff on heavy-duty carts and 10 foot hoses on the chiller, I can use the chiller and wheel it over to the doorway with the exhaust blowing hot air out my door to heat the hallway instead of my office. Then, when I am done, just roll it all up and push it back against the wall when not using the chiller.

 

[tps3443]

@Talon I found the place that sells the RTX 6000 Pro for $7,750. (if you’re curious) apparently you submit a quote. And I also heard some were quoted less than that. 🙂

 

https://www.exxactcorp.com/category/LATTICEPT-M-Star-Optimized-Solutions

 

7 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

I am really liking this build with the triple 360 rads. I did manage to shoehorn the IceMan dual D5 unit in front of the bottom radiator, so a total of three D5 pumps internally. I had to fabricate a mounting bracket from 2x2 aluminum angle to mount it to the chassis because the original bracket on the dual D5 was not designed for this orientation. So, the liquid path is from dual pump to GPU,  GPU out to pump/res, from there to CPU inlet, from CPU outlet to top radiator in, top radiator to back radiator, back radiator (x-flow) to bottom radiator, then from bottom radiator into dual D5 block. GPU will get the coolest water.

 

Brother @johnksss I also figured out how to easily switch between internal cooling to chiller without radiators. Note the QD3 fitting on the IceMan dual D5 inlet. I simply detach that, connect the chiller out line there and disconnect the QD fitting on the CPU block outlet to the chiller return line. This utilizes all three pumps without the radiators along with the single D5 mounted to the chiller body. Inline filters are on both pump block outlets to the GPU and CPU, so dual filtration to help keep trash out of the waterblocks.

 

With all of this stuff on heavy-duty carts and 10 foot hoses on the chiller, I can use the chiller and wheel it over to the doorway with the exhaust blowing hot air out my door to heat the hallway instead of my office. Then, when I am done just roll it all up and push it back against the wall when not using the chiller.

 

Looks great! Packed to the max. 

[Mr. Fox]

While we worry about tariffs making PC parts and electronics unaffordable, this video shows a bigger picture and the strategy is working. What's interesting is that the US (Trump) is not the only nation executing this strategy. The USA is China's largest market and we are the greatest source of revenue for China, so China losing that... well. PC parts are not their primary export. Glad to see other countries taking similar steps against them. China was already in a state of recession with a real estate market collapse, so what better time to bring the pain for them than now? When they fall down, keep punching and kicking them... non-stop. Play the long game, not the quick fix.

 

[electrosoft]

5080 FE shipped off today. Some other sales on Fleabay and just like that I'm almost at tax limit cap for reporting in the US for this fiscal year ($2500)...boo.....

 

So as you know, I returned that 9070xt, but then it popped back up open box 10% off.  I had some of the rewards left over from the Astral (picked up some USB drives) so I picked it back up because I really want to finish playing and overclocking it......so total cost after everything was $381.

 

True story, as soon as I applied all my sell off items income earlier today in my "tech budget", after paying off the Astral and realized I still had a small buffer left over from this sell off and the holiday sell off even after deducting the cost of the Hero+9800X3D combo, TG memory and Astral, I was kicking myself for not holding onto it because I really didn't want to return it in the first place to continue to test. As luck would have it, I went to go do a refresh and it was still in my saved favorites with "see details" lit up and it literally just popped back up from an earlier refresh an hour ago while I was checking other items in there that forever never seem to come back in stock or go on a proper sale (I'm looking at you 13th/14th gen).

 

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Final Boss Form for my system for the next few years. Everything tuned to my liking. Only thing left is to play with a few vBIOS and maybe push for a static 5.6+ OC. I don't know if I'll ever run a closed case again but if I do, it won't be this one but another that supports 140mm fans on the bottom, top, front and rear and I don't think that unicorn exists lol....

 

With it completely open, it is dead silent during normal use and even gaming I can keep my speakers down low if I want and still minimal noise from the GPU and CPU. Benching is also fairly quiet on auto. I have yet to purposely push the GPU/CPU fans to 100 yet for benching/testing (once just to hear how loud "bad" the Astral could get) but we know that's coming sooner than later.....

 

 

 

[Reciever]

On 5/6/2025 at 7:47 AM, Mr. Fox said:

The allure of new PC component toys lives on and will likely never die, but the absurdly high non-scalper retail price I paid for the 4090 Suprim was already on the ragged edge of sanity. AI. Even the 4090 Gaming OC was a poor value at $500+ less. AI. So high, in fact, AI, that the pride and pleasure of ownership was greatly diminished by their ludicrous price tags. AI. The notion of spending an extra $1,000 or more for a 5090 makes me both sad and angry. AI. This is unrelated to any tariffs and absent any effect they may or may not be having; just (AI) a poor value overall and just not worth it. AI. The 50-series engineering flaws, scandalous performance limiting tactics, driver and functionality glitches we have witnessed would have pushed me over the edge. AI. I feel like I need to excuse myself from the table at this point. 

 

Sorry for the mindless use of "AI" but I guess that's how things are done now. AI. Mindlessness is the cornerstone of artificial intelligence.

I was confused at the first mention of it, befuddled at the second, and doing a second take at the third.

 

I'd like a refund now, thanks lol 

[electrosoft]

Word on the street is Astral 5090 is going up to $3499.99

 

B&H already has it raised to its new price

 

Hopefully the LC holds steady, but I wouldn't be surprised to see it climb to $3899.99

 

 

 

 

[SACbomber]

1 hour ago, electrosoft said:

Word on the street is Astral 5090 is going up to $3499.99

 

B&H already has it raised to its new price

 

Hopefully the LC holds steady, but I wouldn't be surprised to see it climb to $3899.99

Utter insanity. Cobbled together a complete system for less than a grand back when Sandy Bridge came out (i5-2500K/GTX 580). And "complete" as in with all necessary peripherals. Now a single graphics card is pushing four grand. Utter insanity.

[Mr. Fox]

The insanity is contagious. Look at this joke. Talk about poor value... this is 5090-level retarded. $400 scalp on a product that hasn't even released yet. Find these people and exterminate them. I reinstated by $749 pre-order on NewEgg. Let's see if they try anything to extract more blood. 

 

https://www.amazon.com/ASUS-ROG-X870E-APEX-Motherboard/dp/B0F25LTGBN

 

[electrosoft]

Weird but cool scenario.

 

I had picked up a 13600kf chip used (I know, I know) for dirt cheap and it installed fine and posted but when I went to go install W11, I got a "Installation Failed" window during the decompression portion at the beginning.

 

I tried again, same message.

 

I created another on my desktop and tried to install with it, but same "Installation Failed" about ~6% into the decompression/install portion of the program.

 

I then grabbed an image and restored it and booted into W11 with the 13600kf, but any basic stress test it crashed or error out. Tried loading in Wukong (shaders test) as the last test and it error'd out every time so yeah, degraded to heck.

 

But here's the thing. I went to go use that same W11 media created on another system (laptop) and it failed at the exact same point.

 

So I pulled out both an AMD laptop (AM4 based) and Intel (13th gen based) and tried to use the media and it failed.

 

I created a new one on the same stick on my desktop and went to go install it and it installed fine on every extra laptop test system.

 

I then tried to use it on the clearly degraded 13600kf system and it failed again during installation and then I tried to use it on the other systems and yep, you guessed it, installation failed on all of them.

 

So clearly during trying to install on a 13600kf system that is degraded, it not only fails but somehow corrupts those files at that point in the process causing it to then fail on every other system tried.

 

Fun.

 

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21 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

 

 

I keep coming back to these pics because the angelic white contrast on the pump with the more subdued / silver white on the block just fits so well with the other blue themes.....

 

2 hours ago, SACbomber said:

Utter insanity. Cobbled together a complete system for less than a grand back when Sandy Bridge came out (i5-2500K/GTX 580). And "complete" as in with all necessary peripherals. Now a single graphics card is pushing four grand. Utter insanity.

 

Kinda how I felt with MSI's pricing with the Raiders this time around. $5k for the 9950X3D/5090 variant? They are daft for that.....

 

Laptops, GPUs and Motherboards continue to trend up in pricing.....

 

48 minutes ago, Mr. Fox said:

The insanity is contagious. Look at this joke. Talk about poor value... this is 5090-level retarded. $400 scalp on a product that hasn't even released yet. Find these people and exterminate them. I reinstated by $749 pre-order on NewEgg. Let's see if they try anything to extract more blood. 

 

https://www.amazon.com/ASUS-ROG-X870E-APEX-Motherboard/dp/B0F25LTGBN

 

 

Hmmm, congrats on the order (again). What changed your mind?

 

 

[Mr. Fox]

42 minutes ago, electrosoft said:

I keep coming back to these pics because the angelic white contrast on the pump with the more subdued / silver white on the block just fits so well with the other blue themes.....

Thanks. I like it obviously. My wife shields her eyes and says the white is too bright. It is difficult to get a true white out of PC lighting. Most of the time the white LEDs have a pale blue cast to them and a yellowed cast when shining through acrylics. The glass reservoir on the pump doesn't smudge the purity of the white light nearly as much.

42 minutes ago, electrosoft said:

Hmmm, congrats on the order (again). What changed your mind?

Mostly curiosity. Curiosity with respect to how many people disagree about the PCIe bifurcation, who is right and how many are wrong. Also, the rumors and speculation about CUDIMM support on the Apex, what is fact versus fiction.

 

Curiosity about whether or not the 2-DIMM design will actually do more for AMD RAM speed and latency than it has seemed to before the Apex. I am not expecting to see as much magic in this area for an AM5 platform. I could be wrong. Curious if it will be better for overclocking than the Gene and which one I would like more, which one I would sell. The AORUS Master matches the Gene, so if the Apex cannot soundly beat it on performance and match it on intelligent PCIe bifurcation then the Apex is product only for losers and fanboys that love to frivolously waste their money on overrated products.

 

Curiosity about what kind of shenanigans we will see with availability and the degree of scalping we will see. It is the most over-hyped motherboard launch I can remember since EVGA threatened status quo with an intent to jump into AMD-infested waters. If the order actually clears at $749 per the pre-order value I think I will have a product I can later sell for the new purchase price when I am done with it and never lose a penny. If NewEgg tries to reneg on the pre-order price it willl be cancelled.  It is listed for the NewEgg price at Asus online store. 

https://rog.asus.com/us/motherboards/rog-crosshair/rog-crosshair-x870e-apex/

[jaybee83]

3 hours ago, SACbomber said:

Utter insanity. Cobbled together a complete system for less than a grand back when Sandy Bridge came out (i5-2500K/GTX 580). And "complete" as in with all necessary peripherals. Now a single graphics card is pushing four grand. Utter insanity.

 

"inflation" 😛 /s

 

1 hour ago, Mr. Fox said:

Thanks. I like it obviously. My wife shields her eyes and says the white is too bright. It is difficult to get a true white out of PC lighting. Most of the time the white LEDs have a pale blue cast to them and a yellowed cast when shining through acrylics. The glass reservoir on the pump doesn't smudge the purity of the white light nearly as much.

Mostly curiosity. Curiosity with respect to how many people disagree about the PCIe bifurcation, who is right and how many are wrong. Also, the rumors and speculation about CUDIMM support on the Apex, what is fact versus fiction.

 

Curiosity about whether or not the 2-DIMM design will actually do more for AMD RAM speed and latency than it has seemed to before the Apex. I am not expecting to see as much magic in this area for an AM5 platform. I could be wrong. Curious if it will be better for overclocking than the Gene and which one I would like more, which one I would sell. The AORUS Master matches the Gene, so if the Apex cannot soundly beat it on performance and match it on intelligent PCIe bifurcation then the Apex is product only for losers and fanboys that love to frivolously waste their money on overrated products.

 

Curiosity about what kind of shenanigans we will see with availability and the degree of scalping we will see. It is the most over-hyped motherboard launch I can remember since EVGA threatened status quo with an intent to jump into AMD-infested waters. If the order actually clears at $749 per the pre-order value I think I will have a product I can later sell for the new purchase price when I am done with it and never lose a penny. If NewEgg tries to reneg on the pre-order price it willl be cancelled.  It is listed for the NewEgg price at Asus online store. 

https://rog.asus.com/us/motherboards/rog-crosshair/rog-crosshair-x870e-apex/

 

uuuh id like for you to keep us updated on that. both the CUDIMM and 2 vs. 4 dimm board performance on AM5 interest me a lot 🙂 

[Mr. Fox]

1 hour ago, jaybee83 said:

uuuh id like for you to keep us updated on that. both the CUDIMM and 2 vs. 4 dimm board performance on AM5 interest me a lot 🙂 

If I end up with it and they don't pull any last-minute stunts I will for sure will share my findings, results and opinions. If it is does not sufficiently impress me within the first few days then it will go back for refund. If it is good enough to keep then I will sell the Gene on overclock.net. I suspect I can get what I paid for it, or close to it.

 

It's definitely about to launch with the Asus webstore listing, showing up at Amazon for order and notifications on availability with trackers, etc.

 

https://www.trackalacker.com/products/showcase/rog-crosshair-x870e-apex

[tps3443]

I’m gonna go ahead and shunt my card. @johnksss look at this dudes 5090 FE with shunt. 
 

https://www.3dmark.com/sn/5906892

[electrosoft]

2 hours ago, tps3443 said:

I’m gonna go ahead and shunt my card. @johnksss look at this dudes 5090 FE with shunt. 
 

https://www.3dmark.com/sn/5906892

 

And that's with an avg temp of 76 no less. Shunt now, gather data then block later to reap the improvements for comparison.

 

Post pics!

 

 

[cylix]

Ahem hello i am back after some hiatus,family, work and so on

Looks like everyone is rockin 5090 and so on...

 

😜🫠

 

 

 

[Mr. Fox]

21 minutes ago, cylix said:

Ahem hello i am back after some hiatus,family, work and so on

Looks like everyone is rockin 5090 and so on...

 

😜🫠

 

 

 

Welcome back. I was thinking about you the other day and wonder where you had gone.

  

9 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

It's definitely about to launch with the Asus webstore listing, showing up at Amazon for order and notifications on availability with trackers, etc.

@jaybee83 I received final order confirmation on the X870E Apex. My payment processed with NewEgg and the price did not increase, so I did not cancel. It is in "packaging" stage now.

 

I have to say that it is nice that the AMD Apex was not priced higher than an Intel Apex. It is the price I would have expected to pay for it, not inflated or even tariffed. Let's see how long this holds true since we already see the scalping happening on Amazon. Idiots armed with credit cards give these scumbags a reason to live by supporting their lives of crime.

[Papusan]

 

Maybe AMD also should extend the warranty to 5 years? I'm sure we will see the Zen moment for Assrock🙂

               

 

[Mr. Fox]

3 minutes ago, Papusan said:

 

Maybe AMD also should extend the warranty to 5 years? I'm sure we will see the Zen moment for Assrock🙂

               

 

It seems like this is not the first time I am hearing about A$$rock board killing Ryzen CPUs. I think their firmware team has made some mistakes causing it.

[Papusan]

5 minutes ago, Mr. Fox said:

It seems like this is not the first time I am hearing about A$$rock board killing Ryzen CPUs. I think their firmware team has made some mistakes causing it.

 

Assrock is AMD's preffered (MB) partner. Hmmm.