Mr. Fox Posted yesterday at 04:19 AM Author Share Posted yesterday at 04:19 AM 20 hours ago, Mr. Fox said: Definitely power-limited. There is no point in repeating these benchmarks without a shunt mod because it's maxed out on the power budget now. I only need two, but I will have spares. I am going to try the Jufes no detection easy reversal sneaky technique this time instead of solder and see how that works. If it doesn't I can always solder it after the fact. If we eventually get a 1kW XOC vBIOS leaked then I can just peel them off without a trace and without any effect on the warranty. If it works well I will send you a couple for your 5090 @electrosoft https://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/755-PMR100HZPFV2L00 1 1 Master // AORUS X870E Master | 9950X | 4090 Suprim | 48GB DDR5-8200 | GF3 1650W | Triple 360 Loop | Hailea HC-500A || O11D XL EVO (T-Rex) Blaster // STRIX X870E-E Gaming WiFi | 9950X | 5090 Solid OC | 48GB DDR5-8000 | GF A3 1200W | Dual 360 Loop || O11D XL EVO (Rhinoceros) Meh!! // Precision 7720 | BGA CPU Filth | Quadro P5000 | 4K Display | $500 Refurb | Nothing to Write Home About (Turdbook) Mr. Fox YouTube Channel | Mr. Fox @ HWBOT The average response time for a 911 call is 10 minutes. The response time of a .357 is 1400 feet per second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
electrosoft Posted yesterday at 05:08 AM Share Posted yesterday at 05:08 AM So strange a few days ago to see 5090FE's available on Best Buy almost all day with the, "See Details" button blue before they eventually sold out. I didn't want one (explained below), but still good to see. Makes sense considering in the EU they are actually being discounted now a bit in certain regions. ------ I'm definitely locked onto the Jonsbo Z20 MATX portable case now after seeing it can fit even an Astral 5090 in it: Check out the temps which are great too. Astral has almost the exact same dimensions as a Vanguard 5090. This case was in my top 3 before but after seeing it can fit a Vanguard 5090 sized card and actually seeing it in action here at Quake Con from a gent in the BYOB line, I'm sold on it. It seems damn near perfect and checks all the boxes..... plus it's only $99.99 now. I especially like the no riser design. Timestamped with gent in line..... It can handle monster quad slot behemoths like the Astral, Vanguard and more. Looks like a fun case to play around with too. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 20 hours ago, Mr. Fox said: I figured I had better do it while I had the wild hare up my butt or I'd end up deciding it wasn't worth the effort. 🤣 I wheeled everything into the living room and benched from the comfort of my recliner. Definitely power-limited. There is no point in repeating these benchmarks without a shunt mod because it's maxed out on the power budget now. But the clocks are holding a lot higher with the chilled water. These were pulling less than 1.000V under load. +300 core offset. I will have to order the resistors Brother @tps3443 mentioned since all of my spares are too high resistance. Travis do you have a link where you bought yours? Digi-Key or Mouser? Speedway - https://www.3dmark.com/sw/2656446 | https://hwbot.org/benchmarks/3dmark_-_speed_way/submissions/5888556 Steel Nomad (DX12) - https://www.3dmark.com/sn/8377250 | https://hwbot.org/benchmarks/3dmark_-_steel_nomad_dx12/submissions/5888557 Steel Nomad (Vulkan) - https://www.3dmark.com/sn/8377374 | https://hwbot.org/benchmarks/3dmark_-_steel_nomad_vulkan/submissions/5888558? Port Royal - https://www.3dmark.com/pr/3623727 | https://hwbot.org/benchmarks/3dmark_-_port_royal/submissions/5888560? Solar Bay - https://www.3dmark.com/sb/367617 | https://hwbot.org/benchmarks/3dmark_-_solar_bay/submissions/5888561? Solar Bay Extreme - http://www.3dmark.com/sb/367638 | https://hwbot.org/benchmarks/3dmark_-_solar_bay_extreme/submissions/5888562 Time Spy - https://www.3dmark.com/spy/58438069 | https://hwbot.org/benchmarks/3dmark_-_time_spy/submissions/5888565 Time Spy Extreme - https://www.3dmark.com/spy/58438160 | https://hwbot.org/benchmarks/3dmark_-_time_spy_extreme/submissions/5888567 8 hours ago, Mr. Fox said: https://hwbot.org/benchmarks/cinebench_-_r23_multi_core_with_benchmate/submissions/5888802 4 hours ago, Mr. Fox said: OK I think I am done now Fire Strike - https://www.3dmark.com/fs/33747306 | https://hwbot.org/benchmarks/3dmark_-_fire_strike/submissions/5888849 Fire Strike Extreme - https://www.3dmark.com/fs/33747317 | https://hwbot.org/benchmarks/3dmark_-_fire_strike_extreme/submissions/5888851 Fire Strike Ultra - https://www.3dmark.com/fs/33747324 | https://hwbot.org/benchmarks/3dmark_-_fire_strike_ultra/submissions/5888853 Chiller mode ACTIVATED... The Mrs. was ok with a living room benching session? 😁 My wife gives me deliberate side eye when I start to use the dining room table for projects..... 45 minutes ago, Mr. Fox said: I only need two, but I will have spares. I am going to try the Jufes no detection easy reversal sneaky technique this time instead of solder and see how that works. If it doesn't I can always solder it after the fact. If we eventually get a 1kW XOC vBIOS leaked then I can just peel them off without a trace and without any effect on the warranty. If it works well I will send you a couple for your 5090 @electrosoft https://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/755-PMR100HZPFV2L00 Looking real good! Once that shunt is in place that Zotac is going to really start to sing full volume.... lol, me and shunting.... 🤣 Right after @Papusan and @Talon shunt theirs first. 🙂 14 hours ago, Papusan said: This what you said while Intel almost say Core Ultra (Arrow Lake) was a failure as desktop chips 😎 You and Intel's CFO can't both have correct brother, LOL One of you has to be wrong😂 As you know, we kind of fumbled the football on the desktop side, particularly high performance desktop side. So we’re as you kind of look at share on a dollar basis versus a unit basis, we don’t perform as well and it’s mostly because of this high end desktop business that we didn’t have a good offering this year. Intel Confirms Arrow Lake Weakness, Bets on Nova Lake to Compete With AMD Zen 6 At the Deutsche Bank Technology Conference in 2025, Intel’s CFO David Zinsner explained that the company sees Arrow Lake as a step that didn’t quite hit the performance target for high-end desktops. Well, he clearly is talking the general (m)asses that didn't take the time to properly tune it. It is 13th vs 7800X3D all over again. Everybody screaming X3D superiority among the general end users and channels, and when I decided to tune them both up, guess what? 13900KS made massive performance improvements and the 7800X3D marginally so since its main strength lies in that cache. I'm not saying an Ultra 285k is going to slay a 9800X3D, but it can definitely gain a lot of ground when properly tuned. I'm just fighting the urge to do it all over again like before because that itch is picking up..... 3 Electrosoft Alpha: 9800X3D | Asus X870E Hero Crosshair | MSI Vanguard RTX 5090 OC | AC LF II 420 | TG 2x24GB 8200 @ 2200/6400 tuned | Samsung 9100 Pro 2TB | EVGA 1600w P2 | Phanteks Ethroo Pro | Alienware AW3225QF 32" OLED Heath: i9-14900KS SP109 | EVGA CLC 280 | Asus Strix Z690 D4 | Gigabyte 9070XT Gaming OC Edition| 32GB DDR4 2x16GB B-Die 4000 | Samsung 980 1TB Pro | EVGA DG-77 | Samsung G7 32" 165hz 32" Alienware Area-51 18 | 275HX | Nvidia RTX 5070ti | Kingston Fury 2x16GB DDR5 |Gen 5 2TB | 18" QHD | WiFi 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Fox Posted yesterday at 05:48 AM Author Share Posted yesterday at 05:48 AM 1 hour ago, electrosoft said: Chiller mode ACTIVATED... The Mrs. was ok with a living room benching session? 😁 My wife gives me deliberate side eye when I start to use the dining room table for projects..... No she would not be. But, she is in WA visiting relatives and friends. I have 2 more weeks of having free reign of the house and then I will have to retreat to my hot little laboratory. The dining table seems to be a universal taboo with the ladies. If I scratch it that is the end of the world. If the grandkids scratch it, that is adding "character" to the table, LoL. 🤣 2 Master // AORUS X870E Master | 9950X | 4090 Suprim | 48GB DDR5-8200 | GF3 1650W | Triple 360 Loop | Hailea HC-500A || O11D XL EVO (T-Rex) Blaster // STRIX X870E-E Gaming WiFi | 9950X | 5090 Solid OC | 48GB DDR5-8000 | GF A3 1200W | Dual 360 Loop || O11D XL EVO (Rhinoceros) Meh!! // Precision 7720 | BGA CPU Filth | Quadro P5000 | 4K Display | $500 Refurb | Nothing to Write Home About (Turdbook) Mr. Fox YouTube Channel | Mr. Fox @ HWBOT The average response time for a 911 call is 10 minutes. The response time of a .357 is 1400 feet per second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Fox Posted yesterday at 07:08 AM Author Share Posted yesterday at 07:08 AM Ooops. No chiller on this one. Voltage got higherwith the comparatively elevated temperature. https://hwbot.org/benchmarks/cinebench_-_r23_multi_core_with_benchmate/submissions/5889007 1 1 Master // AORUS X870E Master | 9950X | 4090 Suprim | 48GB DDR5-8200 | GF3 1650W | Triple 360 Loop | Hailea HC-500A || O11D XL EVO (T-Rex) Blaster // STRIX X870E-E Gaming WiFi | 9950X | 5090 Solid OC | 48GB DDR5-8000 | GF A3 1200W | Dual 360 Loop || O11D XL EVO (Rhinoceros) Meh!! // Precision 7720 | BGA CPU Filth | Quadro P5000 | 4K Display | $500 Refurb | Nothing to Write Home About (Turdbook) Mr. Fox YouTube Channel | Mr. Fox @ HWBOT The average response time for a 911 call is 10 minutes. The response time of a .357 is 1400 feet per second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papusan Posted 23 hours ago Share Posted 23 hours ago Hmmm. What can go wrong if you go cheapo?... The documented case on Reddit should therefore not be viewed as an isolated incident, but rather as the direct consequence of a design weakness that is likely to be systematically present throughout the series. https://www.igorslab.de/ursachenforschung-kondensatordefekt-auf-einer-pny-rtx-5070-mit-ansage-und-vorheriger-warnung/ Then we have the much more expensive 5090s from PNY goes booooom. Good components doesn't mean a shit if the design isn't up to par. Asus is greedy bastards but they can eletrical design.... Just too expensive for what you get. Same with Galax/KFA2's better cards. https://www.guru3d.com/story/geforce-rtx-5090-goes-boom-pny-gpu-suffers-capacitor-failure-near-16pin-connector/ The Intel.... i mean the AMD moment. Also why you see Nvidia is so restricted with their boost throttling algo at awful low temperature. The silicon can't handle die shrink with reasonable voltage. Throttle the boost clocks below 40C will be the next for processors. Chips that handle 82-100C is for the older days. https://videocardz.com/newz/same-user-loses-another-ryzen-7-9800x3d-on-asrock-motherboard 1 "The Killer" ASUS ROG Z790 Apex Encore | 14900KS | 4090 HOF + 20 other graphics cards | 32GB DDR5 | Be Quiet! Dark Power Pro 12 - 1500 Watt | Second PSU - Cooler Master V750 SFX Gold 750W (For total of 2250W Power) | Corsair Obsidian 1000D | Custom Cooling | Asus ROG Strix XG27AQ 27" Monitors | Papusan @ HWBOT | Team PremaMod @ HWBOT | Papusan @ YouTube Channel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reciever Posted 9 hours ago Share Posted 9 hours ago On 8/26/2025 at 4:39 AM, Mr. Fox said: Congratulations on the promotion(s) brother. I have no doubt they were well-deserved. Honestly, that 1080 Nova 360x360 radiator and case are as good or better than a MO-RA 360. Works just as well, costs less, weighs a whole lot less and takes up less space than a MO-RA, just not as flashy-looking. I loved mine and sometimes wish I had not sold it. @tps3443 had excellent service from his, too. If I were still using an open bench that would be the one I recommend. You can mount your D5 pumps/reservoirs directly to each side of it. As far as fans go, you need very high static pressure. Arctic P12 MAX or P12 Pro are the best bang for the buck. Don't spend more for something not better that makes more noise. Here is a parts list I recommend for the external radiator build based on what I have used. High Static Pressure Fans: https://www.amazon.com/ARCTIC-P12-Pro-PST-CO/dp/B0DJDCBCC2 -or- https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DJDBV48H Reasonably priced, high quality and fantastic 6.9 mmH₂O static pressure. The outer ring on the tips of the fan blades is a design advantage and makes the blades stronger as well as being more effective. Power Supply: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CYZMK89X?th=1 You can buy molex or SATA extensions (depending on what your pumps use) like these and cut the input end off to create two pigtail connectors to solder the output ends to the power and ground wires on the PSU to run the fans and pumps. This type of PSU unit is compact and looks better than a bunch of extra un-used wires. Before I discovered this type of PSU I had used these before as well, which worked fine but were a lot more bulky in comparison. Fan Hub and Speed Control: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DS2273B8?th=1 I recently discovered this item and besides working well for fan speed it is more affordable than what I used in the past (a Noctua control with a manual knob that costs a lot more) that required a separate fan hub. This will run all 9 fans with SATA power from the PSU. Custom Fan Filter: To help keep the fans and radiator clean and free of lint and dust, I made a custom filter using a magnetic black fiberglass window screen similar to this cut-to-fit kit. Easy to remove and clean and looks like it was made specifically for the application when all is said and done. The steel Nova 1080 radiator case supports the magnetic attachment. D5 Pump and Reservoir: I have owned two of these and they are excellent and affordable. They fit well on the sides of the Alphacool 1080 Nova radiator housing. Alphacool Core 100 Aurora reservoir Acetal/Acryl with VPP Pump. You can attach the black acetal pump block directly to the radiator case using the included machine screws. No need for the included brackets. Just drill the holes in the radiator housing and bolt it on. Tip: use the bracket designed to bolt the pump body to a 120/140mm fan as a template for drilling the holes to bolt it to the case. No need to measure the distance between the holes on the pump body before drilling. Perfect, wasnt expecting a full write up but it is very much appreciated. I will probably start collecting more things towards the end of the year as I would like to get some benchmarking in the Winter when I can take advantage of the colder weather with some vacation time I think I still have a couple of weeks worth of time I can use. For the time being though, I did pick up 2x 9800 GTX+'s (55nm) to go with my accellero xtreme 9800's if the old posts are to be believed they dropped temps by around 30C+ so adding some cold air should let me around any temperature concerns for the most part. I also picked up a R9 390X 8GB TRI-X for 40 USD. If anyone here happens across some aftermarket heatsinks please feel free to reach out. I am hoping to collect enough for the GPU's I have, some of them are getting quite rare. I guess at this point starting to collect Waterblocks can be the new hobby once I start diving into that space. 1 AM4-DD | 5800X3D @ 4.45Ghz | Red Devil 7900 XTX | 32GB DDR4 3200Mhz | 2TB NVME | Intel X710 DAC @ 10Gbps | 550w + 900w (GPU) | Win11 IoT UNRAID | 10850K @ 4.8Ghz | 16GB DDR4 4000Mhz | P1000 | 9300i-16P | Intel X520 DAC @ 20Gbps | 48TB HDD's | EVGA 1300w | Unraid GameStream | E5-2667v3 16c/32t | 64GB DDR4 2133Mhz | RTX 3090Ti | 3x 512GB | 925w + 900w (GPU) | Win11 IoT HomeLab (x2) | E5-2650v4 24c/48t | 128GB DDR4 2133Mhz | 2x2TB NVME / 2x1TB NVME / 2x2TB HDD | Proxmox Telegram / TS3 / Twitter 2700X to 5800X3D upgrade! With a 10850K cameo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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