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Just the beginning. Before it was mostly the xx90 series, now we will also see xx80 series in smoke and fire. Second in a row. One after one as time go on forwards. And of course MSI's fantastic Yellow-tip. I wonder how many use the Yellow-tip disaster from MSI. I think the xx90 owners is more careful and those  with xx80 series  cards think their cards is safe from meltdown. Hence we will see more smoke and fire from lower tier cards.

 

Rare to see. You can see the beginning before the meltdown. You can see slight burnmarks.

 

Asus want maximizing the profits from the vram price hike. 24GB is cheaper vs 32GB. Hence they now cater to China with a new sku of their overpriced 5090D V2. Same price for 24GB cards just means higher profit margins. 

 

ASUS has listed a TUF Gaming GeForce RTX 5090D V2 OC for the China market, with 24GB of GDDR7

 

 

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God Jul (Merry Christmas) to everyone🙂 

 

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Merry Christmas to all my extended family in this thread!!!

 

Now, I am in a bit of a dilemma. Bestbuy has the Prime 5070 TI for $749.99, brand new. I just spent that on the "Like New" card from Amazon. I am going to cancel the card from Amazn and begrudgingly buy from Bestbuy. Here goes nothing....

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Merry Xmas and happy holidays to all!

 

1 hour ago, Rage Set said:

Merry Christmas to all my extended family in this thread!!!

 

Now, I am in a bit of a dilemma. Bestbuy has the Prime 5070 TI for $749.99, brand new. I just spent that on the "Like New" card from Amazon. I am going to cancel the card from Amazn and begrudgingly buy from Bestbuy. Here goes nothing....

 

It bit funny and ironic we just talked about your adventures with Best Buy.....good luck!

 

On 12/22/2025 at 11:56 PM, Papusan said:

 

 

Just the beginning. Before it was mostly the xx90 series, now we will also see xx80 series in smoke and fire. Second in a row. One after one as time go on forwards. And of course MSI's fantastic Yellow-tip. I wonder how many use the Yellow-tip disaster from MSI. I think the xx90 owners is more careful and those  with xx80 series  cards think their cards is safe from meltdown. Hence we will see more smoke and fire from lower tier cards.

 

Rare to see. You can see the beginning before the meltdown. You can see slight burnmarks.

 

 

 

Two observations on the yellow tip again:

 

If it were black, you wouldn't be able to see even the mild scorch marks. Companies should start including these in white or yellow for clear visibility of scorching. I still suspect there are plenty of black connectors out there already with scorch marks. You just can't see them.

 

The bottom row strikes again with the weaker, [ ] design which I posit is susceptible to physical stress and speeds up the cycle as they are heated up and in conjunction with the physical stress are pulled ever so slightly open making them even more susceptible.

 

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These connectors really should not be physically stressed at all and the weaker the design (like MSI's bottom row array) the more the stress can cause meltdowns in conjunction with migrating imbalance of amps over time for various reasons. 

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Merry Christmas, everyone. Blessings to all of you.

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The temp reductions moving the wife to the Antec Flux Pro from the DG-77 are substantial especially on the GPU front. We're talking 10-15c+ across the board for GPU (Hotspot and memory) and DDR4 memory. I'll be able to run the OC profile again after re-tuning.

 

CPU temps increased ~5c since it isn't front intake anymore but top mounted so it gets all that nice warm air, but still under 80c for WoW (74c vs 79c) and still in the 60's for CB23 so still running nice and cool.

 

I am running the AIO just off the CPU fan header. It has an option to split the voltage and have it run the pump independently with a 3 in one option (fans, pump, vrm fan). I could go back and install the 3-1 cable vs 1-1 and probably bring them down to previous levels if not more but I'm content atm.

 

I can see why the Flux Pro was one of the top rated cases for airflow for 2025.

 

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New stepping for the Ultra refresh with a mature node for the same price.

270k basically turns into a 285k..this feels like 11900k/11700k territory all over again

Improved IMC and support from 6400 to 7200 officially across the entire plus refresh

 

https://videocardz.com/newz/intel-core-ultra-200k-plus-series-reportedly-aiming-at-more-for-the-same-price-approach

 

 

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Project #1 almost done, just needs to be setup in unraid again then hopefully don't touch for 6 months lol. 

 

 

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Merry Christmas my friends! I hope you're all having an awesome day today! I know I am!

After yet another grueling few weeks of really busy devleopment, I'm finally on a one week vacation. I got caught up on MANY pages worth of posts today, so now I'm up to speed on all the threads I follow. That was very time consuming. Thank goodness for my super long attention span and hyperfocus abilities.

 

I got a second GPU installed in my desktop (RTX 3080 from brother Fox), and this system slaps! Paired with Lossless Scaling, I can now render any game I have at 300 fps for the foreseeable future. I love this return of multi GPU gaming rigs brought about by this awesome software.

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Well turns out there is a wrinkle on part of the server :/

 

Gigabyte did not enable bifurcation on the motherboard, it can be enabled with a BIOS mod just really didnt want to do that sort of thing. The Sage has it enabled by default and works on my Precision Towers so I fully expected it to be commonplace on this one. I'll look at the guide in a bit and toss a coin for looking for the hardware programmer I have somewhere. tl;dr the 4xNVME PCIE adapter is only showing 1 drive from the 4.

 

Otherwise Unraid just booted right up, reallocated the array of drives and the cache on its own, didnt even have to point anything anywhere. See's the 80 threads available to it now with no issues. Just been cleaning up what ever I was doing at the time, server is nice and cool, and more importantly more than quiet enough to be placed in the second floor living room (hybrid office kind of setup).

 

Overtime I do plan to replace the older 4/6TB drives there are still present in the array, they are getting looooong in the tooth so if I do anything with this system that will likely be the first step. drives on the right are 12TB each but 2 of them are being used for parity, so it doesnt add much to the "useable" pool of storage.

 

Onto the next project for now :) Decided to go with the server build first to get my confidence back, its been some time since I built something outside of my wheel house. Damn near thought I had some crap karma for a minute there because the server wouldnt post when I tested the motherboard. Turns out, its not guaranteed that it will default to a GPU for video out since they have a chipset video output via the VGA port on the I/O. Once that was squared, then realized, sadly, one of the sticks of RAM was bad :( 

Anyone got 2933Mhz/3200Mhz 32GB DDR4 ECC laying around? Damned things are stupid expensive now :(

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9 hours ago, Reciever said:

 Once that was squared, then realized, sadly, one of the sticks of RAM was bad 😞

Anyone got 2933Mhz/3200Mhz 32GB DDR4 ECC laying around? Damned things are stupid expensive now 😞

 

Understatement of the year....memory is stupidly expensive and continuing to climb.

 

Anyone caught up knowing of the ramapocalypse and didn't suck it up and spend a bit more the last month or so is really going to feel it in 2026 and prices now might look like a bargin next year till this sorts itself out.

 

Same may happen for SSDs too as next year progresses.

 

 

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1 hour ago, Papusan said:

 

It will be interesting to hear what his conclusions are after 30 days. I can't say that I like either one now. I can identify things that I dislike about both brands, but I try not to dwell on those things because it can get pretty depressing when you begin compiling a list of the things that suck.

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2 hours ago, Papusan said:

 

 

 

I posted on this back on the 19th but only briefly....

 

 

The fact he picked a 4 dimmer (Asus Maximus) over a 2 dimmer (MSI Unify) because of scratches/aesthetics just left me shaking my head but he is only running G.Skill TridentZ CUDIMMS 8400 sticks and the Maximus should do 8800 no problem....

 

Jay: "The aesthetics I don't really care about" (Holding the Maximus)

Also Jay: "I'm bothered by it because it has scratches" (Holding the Unify)

 

1 hour ago, Mr. Fox said:

It will be interesting to hear what his conclusions are after 30 days. I can't say that I like either one now. I can identify things that I dislike about both brands, but I try not to dwell on those things because it can get pretty depressing when you begin compiling a list of the things that suck.

 

At worst, it's something new and fun to learn the ins and outs of platform wise. That's my take along with seeing how it does in my favorite games. Once we moved away from monolithic designs, things took a turn for the worse in regards to what WE want in CPUs at least.

 

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Some more testing with the 265k and Strix Z890 and best I can do is stabilize on this 265k at 8400 is now but anything past that is near error out in G2 and at 8600 it artifacts green and locks up as soon as it tries to load Windows. That is pushing  SA/VDD2 up and down even to SA@1.35 and VDD2@1.45. Not sure how far I want to go past that in the hopes of breaking past 8400. Just not a great IMC on this chip.

 

Of course in G4 the MB can run up to 8667 before giving up the ghost.

 

On the other hand, the combo was less than $400 for both so.......yeah.  I could just tighten everything up at 8400 and still extract the bulk of the performance I would get a 8600/8800 (maybe more with the tighter timings) and then focus on OC potential next which was the plan anyhow. SA/NGU voltages did nothing to change the situation. 

 

I'll really need another 265k or 285k to bounce off of to get a clearer picture.

 

Still tempted to re-order a Unify at the least....

 

 

 

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, electrosoft said:

Still tempted to re-order a Unify at the least....

If the Unify is a 2-DIMMer like the Unify-X of the past you probably should, even though it is an MSI. It probably won't match an Apex, but I think it would still be better than a 4-DIMM option. One of the best things (other than the BIOS) about the Apex is the DIMM.2 feature. I really like the convenience of being able to access all of the M.2 slots that I am willing to use without having to remove the GPU. (I will not use the M.2 slots that castrate the GPU bandwidth to X8 under any circumstances.) It is unfortunate that most motherboards made for Intel and AMD are still sucky 4-DIMM garbage. It should be an exception and 4-DIMM boards should be limited to a few isolated creator-focused options where maxing out RAM capacity is more important than performance. It's comical that some people still view that as a future "upgrade" path, but understandable to the extent that the average gamerboy is somewhat fightened about entering the BIOS to apply an XMP/EXPO profile.


On another note... my God, how did so many people get so stupid so suddenly... rampant idiocy is the new normal where technology is concerned.

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MSI finished my RMA and got the FedEx package today. To my complete shock, they gave me a brand new unit and the new ATX 3.1 version. Honestly a great RMA experience with MSI. 
 

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Have you seen any worse? Has to ve within top 10 on the melt scale.

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The offending 12VHPWR connector on the Asus ROG Matrix RX 5090 (image source: r/Asus)
4 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

On another note... my God, how did so many people get so stupid so suddenly... rampant idiocy is the new normal where technology is concerned.

 

Hideo Kojima warns AI is making games and art “no longer special” in self-interview

 

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MSI finished my RMA and got the FedEx package today. To my complete shock, they gave me a brand new unit and the new ATX 3.1 version. Honestly a great RMA experience with MSI. 
 

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I've had to do a few RMAs with MSI over the years, including my old x670e Carbon, and it always went well. Either repaired properly or usually they just sent me a new one.

 

They really won me over back during the 1722 17.3" laptop days with parts and repair accessibility. 

 

Untill they, PERSONALLY ( IE bombarding me with anecdotal examples means nothing since my anecdotal evidence says otherwise), give me a reason to not deal with them, they will always be on my top 3 list for consideration.

 

They still have the best mass commercial market laptop BIOS on the market and to a certain point, they treat their laptop BIOS like their desktop BIOS and I like that.

 

 

 

 

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