*Official Benchmark Thread* - Post it here or it didn't happen :D

[Mr. Fox]

1 hour ago, hfm said:

I was watching my local microcenter when the news first broke about the 5070 Ti. At first there were still plenty available around MSRP, about 5 days ago there were some MSI models for $834 and $840 and the rest were $1K+. Looked today and the MSI model they have ~25+ of is $990 and the rest are $1K+. I fully expect within a few weeks you won't be able to get one at all. The DDR5 kit I bought in august is 4x the price.. thankfully I decided it pull the trigger on an upgrade at that point (got the 5070Ti at MSRP) .. i was waffling on waiting. At this point I don't think things are going to be a sane upgrade path until well into 2028.

It will take a big upset and collapse of the irrational AI grab-ass nonsense for this to correct itself. Hopefully the crash will be extremely hard, cost all of the bigshots hundreds of billions in losses and come sooner than later. I'd love to see them totally wipe out and burst into flames in time for Christmas sales in 2026. Would be awesome to see a massive dump of hardware surplus that bankrupt AI companies no longer want or need. I'm sure they already have stockpiles of GPUs, storage and RAM that are not even being used that they will need to dump.

[Raiderman]

8 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

Sorry to hear about the adverse weather. Your temperatures look to be about the same as Brother @Rage Set and a significant portion of the Eastern US (even the Deep South) is experiencing brutal and abnormal ICE and snow, downed power lines, etc. I suspect that Brothers @tps3443 and @electrosoft are also getting hammered pretty severely right now. The Arizona summer heat can be deadly, but Arizona (and most other states in the West) very seldom have severe or catastrophic weather events. Most of the horrible and catastrophic weather events occur in the Central and Eastern states. Brother @Raiderman and I do not see very many temper tantrums from Mother Nature.

an angry thunderstorm now and then. @Papusan -21c is not too terrible. We will get that here in Idaho from time time. 60mph on a snowmobile is not as much fun when its that cold though!

[JamieTheAnything]

Record setting Precision 7550 with a 7750's 110W Quadro rtx 5000 shoved into it 

 

https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/151229648

[electrosoft]

15 hours ago, Papusan said:

 

Yup, game developers need to implement garbage mode in their coming games. AAA games or not.... They need to make the games work ok'ish with 8GB vram buffer. This should be good news for those with slight older 8GB cards.

 

Three RTX 50 cards reportedly make up 75% of NVIDIA’s Q1 2026 supply

 

Most RTX 50 cards shipped have either 8GB or 12GB memory.

 

The damn cold her in the north will continue... Minus 21C yesterday. Not good for  my briken lungs😒

 

Coldest winter in 16 years

 

 

The most logical path considering they want that memory for AI which is much more lucrative but they can't just flat out put a full on "pause" on their consumer section but they sure can clamp it to a trickle...

 

If there was ever a time for the 5070ti on down crowd to switch to AMD, it is now.....

 

11 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

Sorry to hear about the adverse weather. Your temperatures look to be about the same as Brother @Rage Set and a significant portion of the Eastern US (even the Deep South) is experiencing brutal and abnormal ICE and snow, downed power lines, etc. I suspect that Brothers @tps3443 and @electrosoft are also getting hammered pretty severely right now. The Arizona summer heat can be deadly, but Arizona (and most other states in the West) very seldom have severe or catastrophic weather events. Most of the horrible and catastrophic weather events occur in the Central and Eastern states. Brother @Raiderman and I do not see very many temper tantrums from Mother Nature.

 

It is brutally cold (relatively speaking) for us  right now coming off of that snow storm which just left everything frozen over. Right now it is a balmy 4f (~ -16c) here....

 

When I was younger, I loved the cold and looked forward to it. Now? I can see why people move to warmer, more even tempered states. 

 

5 hours ago, hfm said:

I was watching my local microcenter when the news first broke about the 5070 Ti. At first there were still plenty available around MSRP, about 5 days ago there were some MSI models for $834 and $840 and the rest were $1K+. Looked today and the MSI model they have ~25+ of is $990 and the rest are $1K+. I fully expect within a few weeks you won't be able to get one at all. The DDR5 kit I bought in august is 4x the price.. thankfully I decided it pull the trigger on an upgrade at that point (got the 5070Ti at MSRP) .. i was waffling on waiting. At this point I don't think things are going to be a sane upgrade path until well into 2028.

 

Stock has either dried up and/or baseline prices are getting a bit slap happy.

 

Lowest prices on part picker:

PNY 5070ti = 969.35

Asus Prime 5080 = $1364.99

Gigabyte Aorus Stealth Ice 5090 = $3579.98

Gigabyte Gaming 9070xt = $719.99

 

So glad I snagged that Red Devil earlier this month for $683 ($879.98 on PPC) and Vanguard 5090 $1971 (Basically Unobtanium status) back in August from Microcenter.

 

That Vengeance 2x24GB 9200 kit I managed to snag in December for $389 is now $969.99

 

I picked up a couple of Samsung 9100 Pro 1TB drives w/ heatsinks when I saw the writing on the wall for ~$149.99. They are now $229.99

 

Luckily, CPUs, Motherboards, cases, PSUs are suffering the most in the pricing downturn and their prices have stayed the same or fallen a tad.

 

Anyone looking to build out in the US, Microcenter bundle deals are just crazy good value atm. CPU, Motherboard and DDR5 memory in many configs and priced fairly even before the Ramapocalypse....

 

I'm set for hardware now till Nova and even then I will just need a MB and CPU.....

 

Good call not waffling.....

 

 

4 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

It will take a big upset and collapse of the irrational AI grab-ass nonsense for this to correct itself. Hopefully the crash will be extremely hard, cost all of the bigshots hundreds of billions in losses and come sooner than later. I'd love to see them totally wipe out and burst into flames in time for Christmas sales in 2026. Would be awesome to see a massive dump of hardware surplus that bankrupt AI companies no longer want or need. I'm sure they already have stockpiles of GPUs, storage and RAM that are not even being used that they will need to dump.

 

Unfortunately the big players will take the hit on the books and pass it along to us in the long run. The Googles and Microsofts will just keep it moving. AMD will take a minor chip on the chin. Hardest hit will be AI focused entities and Nvidia. I look to the day Nvidia has to come to us on bent knee, hat in hand, tail firmly tucked between their legs asking for our forgiveness....

 

I will never use any Micron consumer products again even if they fire back up the Crucial brand post AIB (AI Bust).

 

 

 

[Rage Set]

I attempted to overclock my laptop twice outside and within minutes, had to scurry back into the house. My fingers man! Early morning (around 4am EST when I awake), the temp is between 2 to 4F (-16C) for the past week, not including wind chill. The kind of cold that just inundates you, but man do I love it. I guess that is why I earned the cheeky nickname, Ice Bear, from my family. I love the first few hours after a snow storm, everything is covered and it is super quiet. 

 

I'll have some 3Dmark benches from my laptop and perhaps the 14900KS/9070XT combo later. 

[hfm]

15 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

It will take a big upset and collapse of the irrational AI grab-ass nonsense for this to correct itself. Hopefully the crash will be extremely hard, cost all of the bigshots hundreds of billions in losses and come sooner than later. I'd love to see them totally wipe out and burst into flames in time for Christmas sales in 2026. Would be awesome to see a massive dump of hardware surplus that bankrupt AI companies no longer want or need. I'm sure they already have stockpiles of GPUs, storage and RAM that are not even being used that they will need to dump.

 

I think the reality will probably be somewhere in the middle. Even acknowledging the threat to my own field (been in software engineering and infra for 35 years) I see the benefit from a tool to be used perspective as much as I'd rather it didn't exist. Just like a lot of things, moneyed interests in its existence will cause the tool to be abused and allowed to flourish unchecked to the point that it's a major detriment to our society.

[Mr. Fox]

2 hours ago, hfm said:

 

I think the reality will probably be somewhere in the middle. Even acknowledging the threat to my own field (been in software engineering and infra for 35 years) I see the benefit from a tool to be used perspective as much as I'd rather it didn't exist. Just like a lot of things, moneyed interests in its existence will cause the tool to be abused and allowed to flourish unchecked to the point that it's a major detriment to our society.

AI is useful and I have used it for a number of beneficial purposes at work, even deployed some programs around it. Technology is like anything else. It can be used for good or evil purposes, and it can be abused or used in self-serving ways that do not benefit society. I am not against AI. I like it and support the proper use of it. What we are seeing with the frenetic moves by huge companies to turn it into a self-serving cash cow is wrong and needs to be ended through regulatory intervention. Profits earned by it should be capped or taxed at astronomical rates that effectively cap it to remove the secondary gain monetization incentive driving the unacceptable level of insanity we are experiencing right now.

 

[Mr. Fox]

If this POS bill becomes law, 3D printers will be just the start. The brain cancer will metastasize and spread to everything that runs on firmware and software. I used to think blue was a pretty color, but now I find it projectile vomit repulsive.

 

 

[Rage Set]

3 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

If this POS bill becomes law, 3D printers will be just the start. The brain cancer will metastasize and spread to everything that runs on firmware and software. I used to think blue was a pretty color, but now I find it projectile vomit repulsive.

 

 

 

Ideally, I should be a fan of Loyal Moses. Conceptually, he lives my dream. Owning a business and home off the grid. His videos about the incoming laws enacting government spyware in 3D printing applies to all technologies. Unfortunately, it is the case of the messenger killing the message. Moses is known to be a "shill" for certain brands and when certain companies enact anti-consumer policies or reverse course on promised products, he doesn't say anything. This means, a lot of people are wary of him and his messages - in this case, he's right on though. 

 

On the subject of the Washington and NY laws, it is simple government overreach. This law applies to CNC and Lathe machines in addition to aforementioned 3D printers. What's next? The government forcing CAD/3D model design software to detect and prevent you from designing a part that looks like it is related to a gun? Welp, there goes the video game industry. How far the slope can go, it is easy to see.

 

Imagine the government pushing Nvidia, AMD and Intel to stop allowing consumer GPUs to be used in certain software, because they can be used to design things that they don't agree with. That means that 2 to 3K GPU becomes less valuable overnight. 

[electrosoft]

5090's back in stock shipped and sold by Newegg reflecting the beginning of new pricing insanity incoming when they are stocked.....

 

In their defense, Walmart is selling shipped and sold by Walmart the PNY EPIC 5090 for 4299.99 so this is the way things are going for 5090s.....

 

MSI Liquid 5090 is also listed on MSI's site at $3699.99 too....

 

[Mr. Fox]

On 1/31/2026 at 10:35 AM, Mr. Fox said:

AI is useful and I have used it for a number of beneficial purposes at work, even deployed some programs around it. Technology is like anything else. It can be used for good or evil purposes, and it can be abused or used in self-serving ways that do not benefit society. I am not against AI. I like it and support the proper use of it. What we are seeing with the frenetic moves by huge companies to turn it into a self-serving cash cow is wrong and needs to be ended through regulatory intervention. Profits earned by it should be capped or taxed at astronomical rates that effectively cap it to remove the secondary gain monetization incentive driving the unacceptable level of insanity we are experiencing right now.

With the circus of failures at Micro$lop and OpenAI circling the drain, and now (hopefully) NVIDIA standing to lose billions, the bubble might break sooner than later. Fingers crossed. I hope they all burn brightly. It would be great to see the Green Goblin, Samsung, TSMC and others suddenly sitting on a surplus of product that their AI mafia cronies no longer want. The timing of the bubble breaking would also be perfect timing for Micron's recent nasty-finger salute to consumers.

 

[Papusan]

16 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

With the circus of failures at Micro$lop and OpenAI circling the drain, and now (hopefully) NVIDIA standing to lose billions, the bubble might break sooner than later. Fingers crossed. I hope they all burn brightly. It would be great to see the Green Goblin, Samsung, TSMC and others suddenly sitting on a surplus of product that their AI mafia cronies no longer want. The timing of the bubble breaking would also be perfect timing for Micron's recent nasty-finger salute to consumers.

 

 

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GeForce RTX 5090 turns one, now costs nearly twice the MSRP

Extreme OC models are back, and even pure gold models One good thing is the return of flagship OC models. MSI, ASUS, and even GIGABYTE have either announced or launched limitededition enthusiast models. Unfortunately, it looks like none of the companies plan to make them widely accessible, either due to pricing or limited production runs. We are starting to think of these cards as influencer-only models.