*Official Benchmark Thread* - Post it here or it didn't happen :D

[Reciever]

Just now, Mr. Fox said:

You better snag that 3090 Ti while you can. Hopefully it is not a scam. If it is not that is an insanely good deal. If you are not going to buy it, I will.

Oh its just the waterblock (EK-WB) not the GPU proper, if someone listed a 3090Ti for 70 USD I was assume its a scam be it from the sellers end or my own lol

[Rage Set]

10 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

Which 9070 XT do you have, Brother @Rage Set. (I think you mentioned it before but I do not remember.)

I got bored and decided to mess with slower memory speeds to see how fast I could make it go. This is stable so I will see how low I can get tCL before it unravels. 6400 1:1 is snappy feeling even though it is a bit slower on read/write/copy.

 

I have the Powercolor Red Devil 9070XT. I am trying to convince myself not to buy a waterblock for it. I am also limited by RAM. So my goal of getting into the top 15 TS (for my CPU/GPU) might be out of reach. 

[Annihilator]

im 3rd at timespy with my CPU/GPU combo... n even the 7950x + 9060XT i would be 3rd too, n 9950x + 9060XT i would be 8th 😄 

 

no new CPU needed when u have DDR4 with B-Die n totally optimized 🤤

 

n just noticed this score was with my old B350 board, i should do a run with the new B550...

AMD Radeon RX 9060 XT 16 GB Grafikkarten Benchmark Resultat - AMD Ryzen 9 5950X,ASRock AB350 Gaming-ITX/ac

[Mr. Fox]

1 hour ago, Rage Set said:

I have the Powercolor Red Devil 9070XT. I am trying to convince myself not to buy a waterblock for it. I am also limited by RAM. So my goal of getting into the top 15 TS (for my CPU/GPU) might be out of reach. 

How plentiful are waterblocks for the Red Devil? When I still had the AORUS 9070 XT the only one was an Alphacool block that was never available for purchase. It was always pre-order and/or out of stock. That played a significant part in my decision to get rid of it. I was sick of living with a hot air-cooled GPU. It was miserable. Radeon GPUs take "hot" to the next level of cray cray when it comes to air cooling.

[Rage Set]

21 minutes ago, Mr. Fox said:

How plentiful are waterblocks for the Red Devil? When I still had the AORUS 9070 XT the only one was an Alphacool block that was never available for purchase. It was always pre-order and/or out of stock. That played a significant part in my decision to get rid of it. I was sick of living with a hot air-cooled GPU. It was miserable. Radeon GPUs take "hot" to the next level of cray cray when it comes to air cooling.

 

Only Alphacool has a waterblock, but it is available in multiple shops. While the Red Devil 9700XT is one of the best 9700XT's on the market, I am still debating whether I want to shell out $250 to $300 on the block. For the first time in years, none of my rigs are custom watercooled. They are either cooled by an air or AIO cooler. Mind you, I still have CPU blocks and tons of radiators I could use. 

 

The problem is, if I buy the block, I am going to have to get a two-dimm mobo and faster RAM - that is the chain reaction. I don't really want to invest more money into the 1700 platform. With that being said, I may still get the block with how prices of copper are shooting up. 

[Mr. Fox]

13 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

Which 9070 XT do you have, Brother @Rage Set. (I think you mentioned it before but I do not remember.)

I got bored and decided to mess with slower memory speeds to see how fast I could make it go. This is stable so I will see how low I can get tCL before it unravels. 6400 1:1 is snappy feeling even though it is a bit slower on read/write/copy.

Dropping tRFC to 388 shaved a ns off of memory latency, but otherwise unremarkable by other measurements. There is very little difference between 6400 1:1 and 8000/8200 2:1 on Ryzen due to architectural limitations. Adding 3D cache makes it even less relevant. Y-cruncher is around ~1.0 second slower at 6400.

[Mr. Fox]

12 minutes ago, Rage Set said:

 

Only Alphacool has a waterblock, but it is available in multiple shops. While the Red Devil 9700XT is one of the best 9700XT's on the market, I am still debating whether I want to shell out $250 to $300 on the block. For the first time in years, none of my rigs are custom watercooled. They are either cooled by an air or AIO cooler. Mind you, I still have CPU blocks and tons of radiators I could use. 

 

The problem is, if I buy the block, I am going to have to get a two-dimm mobo and faster RAM - that is the chain reaction. I don't really want to invest more money into the 1700 platform. With that being said, I may still get the block with how prices of copper are shooting up. 

If you keep the GPU for a few years it will be worth doing. When you to move to a newer platform the GPU will be ready for it.

[jaybee83]

19 hours ago, electrosoft said:

 

Obvi Zen 6..... 🤣

 

One thing we can always give AMD is socket longevity. Intel could learn a thing or two. Remember Skylake? Trying to lock out processors on the same socket with bumps to chipsets.....how the mighty have fallen (but clawing their way back with a vengeance)

 

Hey, as long as you don't murder this chip this time around, it's a win win! 🤣

 

ha not with me they didnt! upgraded all the way from a 6700K to a 9900K in my Clevo machine 😄 suckaZ! and big thx to bro @Prema for that one 😛 

[Mr. Fox]

4 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

Dropping tRFC to 388 shaved a ns off of memory latency, but otherwise unremarkable by other measurements. There is very little difference between 6400 1:1 and 8000/8200 2:1 on Ryzen due to architectural limitations. Adding 3D cache makes it even less relevant. Y-cruncher is around ~1.0 second slower at 6400.

OK. Enough of the silly gamerboy normie crap. Back to speed trumps everything.

 

[Mr. Fox]

23 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

OK. Enough of the silly gamerboy normie crap. Back to speed trumps everything.

After all is said and done, with Ryzen the benefit (or lack thereof) doesn't scale with the effort involved. Lots of time and fussing to get it right with a teeny-tiny (or no) gain in return. Nothing to write home about going from 8000 to 8400. Exactly the opposite with Intel memory overclocking.

[electrosoft]

On 2/8/2026 at 12:25 PM, Mr. Fox said:

Dropping tRFC to 388 shaved a ns off of memory latency, but otherwise unremarkable by other measurements. There is very little difference between 6400 1:1 and 8000/8200 2:1 on Ryzen due to architectural limitations. Adding 3D cache makes it even less relevant. Y-cruncher is around ~1.0 second slower at 6400.

 

3 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

After all is said and done, with Ryzen the benefit (or lack thereof) doesn't scale with the effort involved. Lots of time and fussing to get it right with a teeny-tiny (or no) gain in return. Nothing to write home about going from 8000 to 8400. Exactly the opposite with Intel memory overclocking.

I called this early on, but at least 8000 has drawn parity with 6000/6400 worse case and best case it usually is a little bit better overall but nothing to write home over. 6000/6400 shines in extremely latency sensitive games though but they are few and far in between these days....

 

For X3D, we've collected enough data and seen enough game bench marking to know it truly is a case by case benefit with a massive differential ranging from only  running a few points better at best than non X3D to running up to 86% faster vs a 9700x showing how brutal it can get if a game really loves that X3D cache and can comfortably sit in it the majority of the time.

 

Seriously, I'm looking forward to Intel's foray into 3Dcache with BLLC.....

 

Tight 6000 and Tight 8000 are the sweet spots for AMD.

 

Buildzoid, while taking his first venture into Arrowlake, talks about some bandwidth and platform memory limitations on AM5. Intel is really where you want to be to push memory and see tangible gains with scaling even up to 9000 you will see some gains G2.