*Official Benchmark Thread* - Post it here or it didn't happen :D

[Mr. Fox]

Turdbook garbage from the Green Goblin, in partnership with the identity theft trashmaster Nazis at Micro$lop.

 

[Talon]

7 hours ago, electrosoft said:

I've returned to the mindset too of, "just game on the damn thing," I mean it is with a nice AB OC and tuned up  NVCPL and system tweaked but still.....yeah. I stopped running the Matrix last week and went back to the stock vbios.

 

In the end, for gaming, you're not going to see that much of a difference worth the insane extra pull and the fact summer is approaching and with the Matrix running my room was routinely a sauna.

 

There is almost zero chance of a 5090ti unless the AI market suddenly craters and companies cancel their orders in droves. The way it's going I expect the 6090 to be a distant afterthought as initial Rubin production is going to be all about AI and I wouldn't be surprised to see the 6080 and below introduced first and for quite a bit before we even get a sniff of a 6090 if at all.

 

A lot of it comes down to what AMD is bringing to market too as their next gen is rumored to be a major leap in performance. Think 5700xt = 9070xt then we jumped to the 6000 series which was a massive uplift in performance matching the 3090 in raster. 9070xt really pushed a lot of auxilary capabilities outside of raster for AMD and is a portend of things to come....WoW is still broke in DX12 though again with AMD....🤣

 

I do know Nvidia needs a new architecture and a serious node shrink because 5090 power draw is insane for a consumer level product. Ironically, it reminds me of the GTX 590 which in its day pulled insane amounts of power for its dual GPU setup.....

 

What CPU do you use as your daily driver for gaming now? Bartlett? AM5? 14900?

 

270K and 5090 in the main setup and 273PQE and 5070 in the tinkering rig lol. My 9850X3D lives in the living room, now GPU-less 🙁. I do have a B580 brand new sealed from Intel as an RMA replacement that I could put in there if I feel like using it lol. If Zen 6 ends up being amazing and Nova Lake a flop, maybe I'll switch it up and drive the AM5 for awhile. 

[tps3443]

I almost got scammed on a 5090 tonight!! I drove 65 miles to buy a ASUS RTX 5090 TUF which was listed for $2,800 USD. 
 

After meeting him, I inspected the card, no core, no memory chips, fans unplugged etc, stripped screws pure junk, I turned him down right away and explained the situation (He played dumb of course) , then I quickly left feedback to try and help any other potential buyers, let’s just say I didn’t buy it! See my review below. (He had like (5) 5090’s apparently) 

 

Here is the Facebook ads attached as well. It’s still up! What a scammer!! This was not a FIFTY-NINETY but it was a FIFTY-NONE-dee lol. 
 

 

 

 

 

https://www.facebook.com/share/1EQULuMgY3/?mibextid=wwXIfr

[Mr. Fox]

10 hours ago, tps3443 said:

I almost got scammed on a 5090 tonight!! I drove 65 miles to buy a ASUS RTX 5090 TUF which was listed for $2,800 USD. 
 

After meeting him, I inspected the card, no core, no memory chips, fans unplugged etc, stripped screws pure junk, I turned him down right away and explained the situation (He played dumb of course) , then I quickly left feedback to try and help any other potential buyers, let’s just say I didn’t buy it! See my review below. (He had like (5) 5090’s apparently) 

 

Here is the Facebook ads attached as well. It’s still up! What a scammer!! This was not a FIFTY-NINETY but it was a FIFTY-NONE-dee lol. 
 

 

https://www.facebook.com/share/1EQULuMgY3/?mibextid=wwXIfr

We live in a dangerous world and scammers are becoming very common. Did you file a police report? That SOB (and all of the others like him) needs to go to jail and get brutally beaten by other inmates while awaiting for his arraignment.  I'd also report the Marketplace post as a scam.

[electrosoft]

Good observation on the status of Ray Tracing:

 

 

 

Not a sham, but the actual hardware chops required in raw power just haven't been delivered by Nvidia and many games don't even bother with it or give it token lip service.

 

Feels like the long con from Nvidia to switch reliance to DLSS and FG....

 

Nevermind the VRAM regression or at the very least lack of progression considering its need for RT and PT....

 

 

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13 hours ago, tps3443 said:

I almost got scammed on a 5090 tonight!! I drove 65 miles to buy a ASUS RTX 5090 TUF which was listed for $2,800 USD. 
 

After meeting him, I inspected the card, no core, no memory chips, fans unplugged etc, stripped screws pure junk, I turned him down right away and explained the situation (He played dumb of course) , then I quickly left feedback to try and help any other potential buyers, let’s just say I didn’t buy it! See my review below. (He had like (5) 5090’s apparently) 

 

Here is the Facebook ads attached as well. It’s still up! What a scammer!! This was not a FIFTY-NINETY but it was a FIFTY-NONE-dee lol. 
 

 

 

 

 

https://www.facebook.com/share/1EQULuMgY3/?mibextid=wwXIfr

 

Dude......

 

Good thing you know what you're looking for in these situations. Next time, tell them you will be testing it on the spot before purchase to weed out a lot of chuff even if that means lugging your son's desktop with you to a Starbucks, library, police safe trading zone, BNN or more to test it out.

 

PCpartpicker shows the cheapest 5090 available right now in stock is $4200.

 

With the market the way it is, any sub $3k deal has to be sus. Anyone who has a 5090 KNOWS it is valuable so selling it for cheap doesn't make sense. Not that it can't happen, but you have to protect yourself first.

 

(HUGS $1971 MSI Vanguard 5090 1.125 Open Box MC special even harder while checking WV2 connections 🤣)

 

 

 

 

[Papusan]

1 hour ago, electrosoft said:

Good observation on the status of Ray Tracing:

 

 

 

It's so important that Thermal Grizzly sold their soul....

 

3DMark’s Next-gen ray tracing test adds native 4K, AI upscaling and frame generation

According to the video description, Thermal Grizzly is the first sponsor of the new 3DMark benchmark and is showing the teaser exclusively at its booth in Taipei.

 

[Mr. Fox]

1 hour ago, electrosoft said:

Cpartpicker shows the cheapest 5090 available right now in stock is $4200.

 

With the market the way it is, any sub $3k deal has to be sus. Anyone who has a 5090 KNOWS it is valuable so selling it for cheap doesn't make sense. Not that it can't happen, but you have to protect yourself first.

The only reason I am not selling my 5090 for $1500 more than I paid for it ($2000 more than it is worth) is because I'd not be able to replace it. The only option would be a downgrade because I would never pay the current market rate (new or used) for a 5090 at this point. They were not even worth what we paid for them before prices basically doubled.

[Mr. Fox]

2 minutes ago, Papusan said:

 

It's so important that Thermal Grizzly sold their soul....

 

3DMark’s Next-gen ray tracing test adds native 4K, AI upscaling and frame generation

According to the video description, Thermal Grizzly is the first sponsor of the new 3DMark benchmark and is showing the teaser exclusively at its booth in Taipei.

 

I wonder how much Roman paid in advertising costs to have the company name appear in the benchmark? Probably more of a business / marketing move than a sponsorship.

[Papusan]

3 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

I wonder how much Roman paid in advertising costs to have the company name appear in the benchmark? Probably more of a business / marketing move than a sponsorship.

 

Thermal Grizzly's Scale: While Thermal Grizzly is a premium, highly respected enthusiast brand founded by der8auer, it operates on a smaller marketing budget compared to past mega-corporation sponsors like MSI or GALAX. This suggests the partnership was likely structured around a mid-tier six-figure multi-year contract rather than millions of dollars. From between $100,000 and up to $500,000. Probably not much above $200.000 - $250.000.

 

Black or white edition cable?😀

 

What worse than burnt connectors is missing cores and memory. Aka scammed. The scammers now  glue the screws so you can't open your graphics card to check if your scammed....

 

 

[Mr. Fox]

6 minutes ago, Papusan said:

 

Thermal Grizzly's Scale: While Thermal Grizzly is a premium, highly respected enthusiast brand founded by der8auer, it operates on a smaller marketing budget compared to past mega-corporation sponsors like MSI or GALAX. This suggests the partnership was likely structured around a mid-tier six-figure multi-year contract rather than millions of dollars. From between $100,000 and up to $500,000. Probably not much above $200.000.

Budget aside, Roman is probably too smart to waste any more than $200K on advertising. I know I am not alone in saying that I cannot identify many purchases based upon advertising. There are exceptions and fringe examples, but I generally view people that purchase items based on advertising as being "not very smart" people, and smart business owners know that. The best advertisements are (a) results and (b) word-of-mouth. Marketing is for muppets.

[Talon]

On 6/2/2026 at 10:04 PM, tps3443 said:

I almost got scammed on a 5090 tonight!! I drove 65 miles to buy a ASUS RTX 5090 TUF which was listed for $2,800 USD. 
 

After meeting him, I inspected the card, no core, no memory chips, fans unplugged etc, stripped screws pure junk, I turned him down right away and explained the situation (He played dumb of course) , then I quickly left feedback to try and help any other potential buyers, let’s just say I didn’t buy it! See my review below. (He had like (5) 5090’s apparently) 

 

Here is the Facebook ads attached as well. It’s still up! What a scammer!! This was not a FIFTY-NINETY but it was a FIFTY-NONE-dee lol. 
 

 

 

 

 

https://www.facebook.com/share/1EQULuMgY3/?mibextid=wwXIfr

I would 100% have called the police and filed a report. After I got into my car and grabbed his license plate. Can’t trust anyone these days. Too many local deals have turned deadly. 

[electrosoft]

11 hours ago, Talon said:

I would 100% have called the police and filed a report. After I got into my car and grabbed his license plate. Can’t trust anyone these days. Too many local deals have turned deadly. 

 

Agreed 100% Basic safety rules are always in effect (aka common sense).

 

FYI, your sig configs are woefully out of date. Time to update! 

[Papusan]

On 6/2/2026 at 9:14 PM, Mr. Fox said:

Turdbook garbage from the Green Goblin, in partnership with the identity theft trashmaster Nazis at Micro$lop.

 

 

Talking about garbage.... What Nvidia really offer you is loads of overpriced ram.

 

[Mr. Fox]

6 hours ago, Papusan said:

 

Talking about garbage.... What Nvidia really offer you is loads of overpriced ram.

 

[tps3443]

On 6/3/2026 at 3:48 PM, Mr. Fox said:

The only reason I am not selling my 5090 for $1500 more than I paid for it ($2000 more than it is worth) is because I'd not be able to replace it. The only option would be a downgrade because I would never pay the current market rate (new or used) for a 5090 at this point. They were not even worth what we paid for them before prices basically doubled.

Yeah it’s very tough these days. 5080‘s are taking over lol. Too many of THEM! I did think about grabbing a PREMO 5080 to play with. Maybe an Astral or Master. Newegg has a $240 off promo on the Aorus Master ICE 5080. But that Astral looks great! Would like to try a 1.125v card, and see how that performs. Was thinking if I’m going to ride out on 5080, let’s make it a premium 5080. If you do sell your 5090 that’s it. These prices are insanity trying to grab another. I scour the internet everyday. Microcenter for $3,499+ Tax is probably the best bet for a Gaming OC 5090. 

 

On 6/3/2026 at 2:27 PM, electrosoft said:

Good observation on the status of Ray Tracing:

 

 

 

Not a sham, but the actual hardware chops required in raw power just haven't been delivered by Nvidia and many games don't even bother with it or give it token lip service.

 

Feels like the long con from Nvidia to switch reliance to DLSS and FG....

 

Nevermind the VRAM regression or at the very least lack of progression considering its need for RT and PT....

 

 

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Dude......

 

Good thing you know what you're looking for in these situations. Next time, tell them you will be testing it on the spot before purchase to weed out a lot of chuff even if that means lugging your son's desktop with you to a Starbucks, library, police safe trading zone, BNN or more to test it out.

 

PCpartpicker shows the cheapest 5090 available right now in stock is $4200.

 

With the market the way it is, any sub $3k deal has to be sus. Anyone who has a 5090 KNOWS it is valuable so selling it for cheap doesn't make sense. Not that it can't happen, but you have to protect yourself first.

 

(HUGS $1971 MSI Vanguard 5090 1.125 Open Box MC special even harder while checking WV2 connections 🤣)

 

 

 

 

That is an insane price you paid! It really is. The AI community has just hammered the 5090’s. It would be great if some sort of forced update crippled the 5090’s performance in AI. Maybe where if an AI workload is detected it only sees 8GB VRAM or something. 😂 I’m looking at eBay flooded with coreless cards and I’m shocked how GPU’s even got here. 
 

 

 

Could someone tell me what they think about this motherboard? I really like it! 
 

[electrosoft]

Memory scaling with 270k with Buildzoid. Once you hit 8000, it really is much ado about nothing which is what I found testing the 265k from 6000->9000 but I do think he would eeek out a percent or two more tightening his timings but 8000->9000 really was much of nothing.....

 

I settled on 8600 tight for the 265k with the Vengeance 9200 sticks on the Strix-A.

 

 

 

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8 hours ago, Papusan said:

 

Talking about garbage.... What Nvidia really offer you is loads of overpriced ram.

 

 

 

When I read earlier this was running MediaTek Arm CPUs, I immediately checked out but I see what they're doing. This is the first salvo of Nvidia entering mainstream computing with their own chips and their own, future chips will be compatible.

 

Nvidia is all in like AMD on CPU+GPU synergy (barf) moving forward and looks to slowly, but surely, replace x86 on the consumer desktop considering how much ARM has infiltrated just about every other level of the computing industry this was the next logical step.

 

If Prism can deliver a proper Rosetta/Apple like experience, it will make the transition even easier.

 

Nvidia also using their market cap, value, resources and AI everywhere to springboard into CPU dominance also makes sense.

 

I really do believe x86 is slowly dying and has been for awhile. It is a slow death, but it is dying as we know it.

 

The crucial point is Nvidia will need to deliver an Apple level ARM performance metric sooner than later to be taken seriously. M5 is an absolute beast of a chip and Apple properly splitting the GPU away from the CPU and retaining the UMA is a major turning point for future options. It isn't a coincidence they are suddenly, "in pockets" allowing Nvidia GPUs to now work with their hardware  since Nvidia is still light years ahead of Apple's Metal M GPU technology.

 

Like the video says, the grand plan is for their own in house CPUs but this gets the ball rolling. Like Apple with Intel for years while they worked on their M chips, then translation/rosetta for several years and finally sunsetting Rosetta.

 

1 hour ago, tps3443 said:

Yeah it’s very tough these days. 5080‘s are taking over lol. Too many of THEM! I did think about grabbing a PREMO 5080 to play with. Maybe an Astral or Master. Newegg has a $240 off promo on the Aorus Master ICE 5080. But that Astral looks great! Would like to try a 1.125v card, and see how that performs. Was thinking if I’m going to ride out on 5080, let’s make it a premium 5080. If you do sell your 5090 that’s it. These prices are insanity trying to grab another. I scour the internet everyday. Microcenter for $3,499+ Tax is probably the best bet for a Gaming OC 5090. 

 

That is an insane price you paid! It really is. The AI community has just hammered the 5090’s. It would be great if some sort of forced update crippled the 5090’s performance in AI. Maybe where if an AI workload is detected it only sees 8GB VRAM or something. 😂 I’m looking at eBay flooded with coreless cards and I’m shocked how GPU’s even got here. 

 

I would just focus on that well priced Zotac 5080 you picked up, block it and have a blast with it. You might be able to score a used one on the forums with a high voltage. Never hurts to put out a "WTB 5080 w/ 1.125v rating blah blah blah"

 

The rate cards are being snapped up, ripped apart and slapped into blower style AI farms is insane. Like I said before, I am pretty sure your previous 5090FE was torn asunder and is prolly being abused in an AI farm somewhere in China atm..... Go back to my messages last July/August where I said over and over if you're looking to buy a 5090 NOW is the time because prices are going to start creeping up by mid Sept and then things are going to get crazy sooner than later. Resellers were absolutely flush with cards at that time and we had routine sales of 5090s hitting the $2k point or close to it. I remember a small run on 5090 TUFs for $1999.99 for a moment there too.

 

Now? Good luck. We're ~1.5yrs into the 5090 life cycle and the way things are going this is most likely the halfway point with Nvidia ordered out for the next few years and when Rubin finally does launch, we'll get the 6080 on down for awhile before we even get a sniff of a 6090 and expect the 6080 to perform worse than the 5090 in raw performance.

 

2 hours ago, tps3443 said:

 

Could someone tell me what they think about this motherboard? I really like it! 
 

 

I absolutely love the throwback design of this and aesthetically, I would rock it in a heartbeat!

 

All that copper is gorgeous and the old school blue/white accents brings it home.

 

Not sure what case I would use to showcase it though.