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[Mr. Fox]

17 hours ago, tps3443 said:

I’m looking at a 9950X3D2, and a X870 Crosshair Dark Hero, I am struggling on which ram to get. Any tips? 

The only truly excellent memory kit for a Ryzen 9 CPU is a G.SKILL Trident Z5 Neo 6000 CL26 EXPO kit. You cannot find them when you need to, and now they are going for like $1,200 or more. But, essentially 100% of the impressive memory overclocking on AM5 involves one of those kits. There are two variations. The one with "G" in the part number is slightly better. I have the "H" version and it needs a little more voltage and won't clock quite as high due to that.  The part numbers in question are F5-6000J2636H16G and F5-6000J2636H16H.

 

I have one in my Apex and it is definitely head and shoulders above all others, and ASUS has specifically tuned the firmware FOR THOSE sticks. But, even with one of these memory kits you're going to need to source one of the dozen good bin quality Ryzen CPUs in existence to do anything impressive with the memory kit. What I have right now is about is good as it gets with AMD CPU and memory overclocking and it is very mundane compared to what I was used to with Intel.

 

Whatever memory you get, be sure it is EXPO. Older Intel XMP kits are crap on Ryzen, even when manually tuned. The XMP SPD timing values left on Auto often malfunction and it is a pain in the butt to find stable settings unless you are starting with an EXPO kit. Ask me how I know. Painfully time-wasting and frustrating when you don't start with an EXPO kit.

[electrosoft]

2 hours ago, tps3443 said:

Im really curious to test that and see the gains in 4K compared to my current setup. I feel like my current setup performs well. But, I’m considering moving away from the 4K/120hz. It’s pretty big. I still run my 48” OLED Aorus panel. Thing has like 4,500+ “panel on time hours now” lol. 😂 Probably gonna run maybe a 27” 1440P. 
 

I didn’t hang on to any DDR5, I would only run one set at a time back then anyways. Other than the set that’s in my son’s rig, he has some nice 2x16GB Gskill 6400 Mdie sticks. I’m sure those can crank 8000+

 

If I made the switch, I do have a lot of DDR4 Bdie to offload and maybe recoup from. I have a 16x16GB set of Gskill Bdie 3200c14. 
 

The 9950X3D may not make sense, so maybe just a 9850X3D would be fine. 
 

Is there a significant different with the X870 Apex, and just a regular X870 Crosshair black? I’m not going to run a delid setup. Probably just pretty mild OC. Setup, grab a block, and swap it in to my current case with 3x480MM GTX, 4x D5. 

 

You could move to 4K 240hz which is what I run with fps capped to ~175fps so I don't get a monster differential between 1% lows and fps for more consistent game play experience.

 

Yeah, a lot of those kits can crank 8000. I'm still stuck in Arrow Lake mental land where everything is 8800+ or bust and tuning around 9066 G2 atm while fighting the urge to bin some more boards....

 

If you're mainly looking for gaming, get s 9850X3D and call it a wrap. If you want the best of both worlds, get a 9950X3D (or Epyc like @Mr. Fox alluded to) and call it a wrap. If you absolutely do NOT care about value and want the best of the best, get a 9950X3D2 which I can't see being worth it but good for testing. Either way, when I ran a 7950X3D, I just took the 20 seconds it took to enter the bios and enable my profile that turned the non X3D CCD off when gaming and had the X3D CCD tuned up. No muss, no fuss. This was my preferred way of gaming after dealing with M$ and even PL.

 

Them: "Hey, here's some software so you can properly park and/or manage core isolation" 

Me: "Or, I can just shut it down completely and fine tune around the X3D binned CCD only for gaming and it takes a hot few minutes tops to just enable that user profile"

 

You will need absolute Sugi level binning to find a super unicorn golden chip to hope for the 8800 he's running properly on his rig. You're most likely going to do 8000 for proper sync and either board can handle that.

 

14900KS is still a viable option and like I've said numerous times, that SP109 14900KS dialed in still at 59/45/50 (on an AIO no less) running crisp and cool running on the wife's system with my original launch edition Asus Z690-A Strix and 2x16GB G.Skill B.die tuned at 4133. She'll run that thing into the ground as I don't see anything coming out that will hinder it anytime soon at 4k. 

 

If you DO stick to 4k gaming, Arrow Lake is also a very viable platform vs AMD and testing has shown it matches X3D and actually can have better lows too on top of it if that is something you'd want to entertain. It is also different enough to present a new challenge and fun OC'ing and tuning. Not as radically different as AMD vs Intel, but enough vs Intel to make it fun.

 

One thing to keep in mind X3D is a, "better to have it and not need it vs need it and not have it," tool in your arsenal. It really is a game by game situation. One game will show nothing and another will have insane results. If you go dual CCDs, you can even enable and disable them back and forth to really see the difference in certain titles which is what I did with Fallout 76 and the 7950X3D vs my 13900KS tuned because I just wasn't believing the performance gains X3D was bringing but they were valid. In WoW? Not so much....

 

 

 

 

 

[electrosoft]

53 minutes ago, Mr. Fox said:

The only truly excellent memory kit for a Ryzen 9 CPU is a G.SKILL Trident Z5 Neo 6000 CL26 EXPO kit. You cannot find them when you need to, and now they are going for like $1,200 or more. But, essentially 100% of the impressive memory overclocking on AM5 involves one of those kits. There are two variations. The one with "G" in the part number is slightly better. I have the "H" version and it needs a little more voltage and won't clock quite as high due to that.  The part numbers in question are F5-6000J2636H16G and F5-6000J2636H16H.

 

I have one in my Apex and it is definitely head and shoulders above all others, and ASUS has specifically tuned the firmware FOR THOSE sticks. But, even with one of these memory kits you're going to need to source one of the dozen good bin quality Ryzen CPUs in existence to do anything impressive with the memory kit. What I have right now is about is good as it gets with AMD CPU and memory overclocking and it is very mundane compared to what I was used to with Intel.

 

Whatever memory you get, be sure it is EXPO. Older Intel XMP kits are crap on Ryzen, even when manually tuned. The XMP SPD timing values left on Auto often malfunction and it is a pain in the butt to find stable settings unless you are starting with an EXPO kit. Ask me how I know. Painfully time-wasting and frustrating when you don't start with an EXPO kit.

 

@tps3443

 

Those sticks with G are available on Amazon for $699.99 direct from G.Skill:

 

F5-6000J2636H16G:

 

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0F1WX47YD?lv=shuf&channelId=500&plpRedirect=mhFallback&th=1

 

$799.99 for the 2x24GB variants

$1299.99 for the 2x32GB variants

 

If you want a set, might want to snap them up now. 

 

 

 

[Mr. Fox]

14 minutes ago, electrosoft said:

 

@tps3443

 

Those sticks with G are available on Amazon for $699.99 direct from G.Skill:

 

F5-6000J2636H16G:

 

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0F1WX47YD?lv=shuf&channelId=500&plpRedirect=mhFallback&th=1

 

$799.99 for the 2x24GB variants

$1299.99 for the 2x32GB variants

 

If you want a set, might want to snap them up now. 

 

 

 

100%. I have not seen them priced that low for a LONG time. (I paid like $300 before the AI-retarded nonsense ruined everything.) @tps3443 better get them before they are gone or go back to $1200+ again.

 

Edit: Good find Brother @electrosoft. Those are the "H" variant with 1.450V but the advice is still the same... 2x16GB. The Amazon listing appears to include typos or conflicting info as to whether they are G or H but the voltage indicates H. The G variant is 1.350 or 1.400V with the same timings.

 

To add to my previous comments about older Intel XMP kits on Ryzen, the default SPD timings are not good for Ryzen as I mentioned, but the ODT values are also wonky and don't work well. So, you are chasing not only Ryzen-friendly timings but also different ODTs for Ryzen versus Intel. ASUS Crosshair mobo firmware sets all of the right ODTs specifically for these 6000 CL26 G.SKILL kits.

 

Edited 45 minutes ago by Mr. Fox
may be H instead of G but either way... grab 'em

[Mr. Fox]

43 minutes ago, electrosoft said:

You will need absolute Sugi level binning to find a super unicorn golden chip to hope for the 8800 he's running properly on his rig. You're most likely going to do 8000 for proper sync and either board can handle that.

LOL... my WTB thread was 1 year ago today... 6/18/2025. FreakFreak is hunting unicorns. He posted this today. I wish him better luck than I had (which was none). What he is asking for is even more rare that what I was looking for. An X3D with a strong IMC and high core clocking capacity is even more unlikely. What he is asking for is also less relevant... X3D CPUs are largely memory clock agnostic in terms of the effect on performance. The benefit of memory bandwidth is mostly negated by the cache.