Papusan Posted 21 hours ago Posted 21 hours ago The 5090 is a beast compared to the second and the (3rd) last. 3 1 "The Killer" ASUS Z790 Apex Encore | 14900KS | 4090 HOF + 20 other graphics cards | 32GB DDR5 | Be Quiet! Dark Power Pro 12 - 1500 Watt | Second PSU - Cooler Master V750 SFX Gold 750W (For total of 2250W Power) | Corsair Obsidian 1000D | Custom Cooling | Asus ROG Strix XG27AQ 27" Monitors | Papusan @ HWBOT | Team PremaMod @ HWBOT | Papusan @ YouTube Channel
Mr. Fox Posted 13 hours ago Author Posted 13 hours ago 13 hours ago, Talon said: @Mr. Fox Id love to see what scores your newly delidded 270K can put down in the new Geekbench 7. Get the chiller running and push it! lol. I will soon. Too many projects at once. Spent the entire weekend doing computer stuff and still not done. Thoroughly exhausted. Built the A3 mini Installed the 9950X3D2 for testing... seems kind of meh, but haven't given it enough attention. It does need less core voltage than my other CPUs, but I didn't realize I would be losing 200 MHz on the AMD fused max boost on PBO. Completely gutted the O11 XL EVO for cleaning, flushed all of the parts, disassembled the disto block and cleaned the inside manually to remove all of the white chalky residue on the acrylic from something, (no idea what,) and now running a batch of PrimoChill System Reboot. (So another system flush and refill will be needed in 24-48 hours.) I redid the loop and removed the distribution manifold, forcing everything to flow in series rather than parallel. My flow rate is now 310-315 L/H (up from ~215-225 L/H). The EVC 2.0 is no longer being detected by the EVC software for some reason, so now I have to figure that out. Supercool memory block should be arriving tomorrow for the CUDIMMs in the Z890 Apex. (I already have Supercool memory cooling on the G.SKILL 8400 DIMMs but I don't what to have to swap things around, so I ordered the new kit so I could leave the other kit as-is.) So, I will be doing that next. Everything is a mess. I'll have to clear a spot in my office for work tomorrow and finish cleaning up and putting things away. 2 1 REAPER | Z890 APEX | 270K PLUS | RTX 5090 | 48GB DDR5 @ 8800 | O11D XL EVO | HC-500A Chiller WRAITH | X870E APEX | 4585PX | RTX 5080 | 32GB DDR5 @ 8200 | O11D MINI V2 BANSHEE | B850MPOWER | 9950X | RTX 3070 | 48GB DDR5 @ 8000 | Test Bench Mr. Fox YouTube Channel | Mr. Fox @ HWBOT
electrosoft Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago 13 hours ago, Talon said: Highest SP I’ve had with 270K is 89. it’s a solid 89 with balanced P/E cores and it does 5.7Ghz rock solid. It also have excellent thermals and core temp distribution. If this SP97 can’t do 5.7Ghz P I’ll be very disappointed. 5.8ghz would be pretty sick. There are just so many moving parts on Arrow Lake that it makes binning difficult but fun. @Mr. Fox Id love to see what scores your newly delidded 270K can put down in the new Geekbench 7. Get the chiller running and push it! lol. Hopefully it's a ripper! Fingers crossed. 8 hours ago, Papusan said: The 5090 is a beast compared to the second and the (3rd) last. No denying the 5090 is a monster. The problem remains the current pricing and with Nvidia looking to continue to raise CPU/memory packaging costs, they will just keep going higher....insanity atm. 6 minutes ago, Mr. Fox said: I will soon. Too many projects at once. Spent the entire weekend doing computer stuff and still not done. Thoroughly exhausted. Built the A3 mini Installed the 9950X3D2 for testing... seems kind of meh, but haven't given it enough attention. It does need less core voltage than my other CPUs, but I didn't realize I would be losing 200 MHz on the AMD fused max boost on PBO. Completely gutted the O11 XL EVO for cleaning, flushed all of the parts, disassembled the disto block and cleaned the inside manually to remove all of the white chalky residue on the acrylic from something, (no idea what,) and now running a batch of PrimoChill System Reboot. (So another system flush and refill will be needed in 24-48 hours.) I redid the loop and removed the distribution manifold, forcing everything to flow in series rather than parallel. My flow rate is now 310-315 L/H (up from ~215-225 L/H). The EVC 2.0 is no longer being detected by the EVC software for some reason, so now I have to figure that out. Supercool memory block should be arriving tomorrow for the CUDIMMs in the Z890 Apex. (I already have Supercool memory cooling on the G.SKILL 8400 DIMMs but I don't what to have to swap things around, so I ordered the new kit so I could leave the other kit as-is.) So, I will be doing that next. Everything is a mess. I'll have to clear a spot in my office for work tomorrow and finish cleaning up and putting things away. I didn't realize the frequency drop in the 9950X3D2 either, meh. Hopefully once you dig into it, it will show its worth... Personally, I love having numerous projects in the queue. I actually get antsy when I don't have at least two projects in front of me to work on.... You'll eventually get to the 270k delidded improvements. I'm hoping to see that extra cooling translates into at least a bin or two of uplift but we will see. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Speaking of projects, I picked up a 9850X3D for a good price and I'm going to be running it delidded with a TG Heatspreader in my desktop. I cancelled my 7600X3D order from MC and decided not to pick up that 7800X3D on OCN and instead I plan on running my 9800X3D in my SFF Portable project instead especially after comparing my 9800X3D vs the 7500X3D at 1440p and 1080p in the Lightning B850i. 7500X3D can not cap out the 5080 at 1440p and especially at 1080p so on to the 9800X3D as my new portable rig CPU. Problem is I haven't used liquid metal in ~2yrs and my collection is pretty old. Somehow I lost my ( albeit 7yr old lol) Conductonaut vials and all I have left are ~6yr old Silver King vials from Thermalright. I do still have a bottle of non conformal coating but I think I'm just going to toss out everything and refresh with the big 5g kit of Conductonaut Extreme. Last CPU I ran with LM was my NH55 12900k I delidded and before that obviously dozens of CPUs from 6th gen through 10th gen. Still have plenty of Flitz's and tons of the high quality LM application Q-tips too along with silicon gasket sealant albeit I won't need that with the TG HS. Desktop 9850X3D delid and upgrade* SFF build out which is all over the place in a good way Still playing with the 270k build but it needs more love. I haven't had time to really dial down on it. Wife's system needs a major overhaul and clean install. Personally, I am not impressed with the AC LF III 360mm AIO. Very loud and cooling is.....ok. Not sure what I'm switching her to AIO wise but acoustics are priority #1 and switch her Gigabyte Gaming 9070xt to the Red Devil 9070xt which runs MUCH quieter and clocks higher. Basically, if you can't tell, she's complaining about how noisy her computer can get. Maybe even switch her case fans to Noctuas too. It's worth the cost to not have to hear about how loud her computer is every night at dinner. 🙂 *Really fighting the urge to give the Noctua 420mm AIO a whirl because reviews have been overall really positive. My Arctic Cooling Liquid Freezer II 420mm has been running for 5+ years now as my main AIO rig cooler. Might be time to set it out to pasture especially as the Noctua is even quieter and cools even better. 1 Electrosoft Alpha: 9800X3D | Asus X870E Hero Crosshair | MSI Vanguard RTX 5090 OC | AC LF II 420 | TG 2x24GB 8200 @ 8000 tuned | Samsung 9100 Pro 2TB | EVGA 1600w P2 | Phanteks Ethroo Pro | Asus XG32UQDMS 32" QD-OLED Heath: i9-14900KS SP109 | AC LF III 360 | Asus Strix Z690 D4 | Gigabyte 9070XT Gaming OC Edition| 32GB DDR4 2x16GB B-Die 4000 | Samsung 980 1TB Pro | Antec Flux Pro | Alienware AW3225QF 32" OLED Electrosoft Mobile: Alienware Area-51 18 | 275HX | Nvidia RTX 5070ti | 32GB DDR5 6400 |Gen 5 2TB | 18" QHD | WiFi 7
Mr. Fox Posted 5 hours ago Author Posted 5 hours ago 6 hours ago, electrosoft said: Personally, I love having numerous projects in the queue. I actually get antsy when I don't have at least two projects in front of me to work on.... Sounds like you've got some good things going on for projects. I think that my problem is mental disorder. I love projects, too. But, I do not like working on multiple things simultaneously and when I start something I want to work it through to the end without stopping. I do not like projects that I do over a series of days or pick up on weekends. That's why I am exhausted. A normal person would have taken their time and not get stressed out about the idea of going to bed and finishing something tomorrow. I didn't stop for anything except to go to the bathroom. This is one reason why my young adult hobby of building street rods and modified muscle cars will never be part of my life again. I was like this as a teen/young adult as well, but it has grown worse with age. There were numerous times that I got off work on Friday and worked through the night, all of Saturday and into Sunday evening without stopping to finish one of my car projects. If I didn't finish my entire week was hell because I couldn't live with the fact that I started something that wasn't finished. 1 REAPER | Z890 APEX | 270K PLUS | RTX 5090 | 48GB DDR5 @ 8800 | O11D XL EVO | HC-500A Chiller WRAITH | X870E APEX | 4585PX | RTX 5080 | 32GB DDR5 @ 8200 | O11D MINI V2 BANSHEE | B850MPOWER | 9950X | RTX 3070 | 48GB DDR5 @ 8000 | Test Bench Mr. Fox YouTube Channel | Mr. Fox @ HWBOT
Papusan Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 11 hours ago, electrosoft said: No denying the 5090 is a monster. The problem remains the current pricing and with Nvidia looking to continue to raise CPU/memory packaging costs, they will just keep going higher....insanity atm. 5090's at older prices seems as a great deal nowadays. Same as for the 4090's back then. And the 5080 will probably be equal bad deal as for the 4080's. Graphics card prices continue to rise in China due to the increased cost of GDDR6 and GDDR7 memory. The entire technology industry and companies of all kinds have poured their efforts, time, and money into artificial intelligence. This is not surprising, as artificial intelligence is a booming sector, relatively new in recent years, and with enormous potential... MSI warns: its GeForce RTX 50 series cards have already seen their price increase by up to 20% in China MSI and Colorful are among the first manufacturers to announce a widespread price increase in China for their GeForce RTX 50 series graphics cards. This price increase affects virtually the entire GeForce RTX 50 series family. This price increase was expected, as hardware prices across China have begun to rise. This clearly indicates that more hardware is being consumed in China and is now being delivered directly from the factory to consumers, meaning the price increases have already been passed on to the consumer. 1 1 "The Killer" ASUS Z790 Apex Encore | 14900KS | 4090 HOF + 20 other graphics cards | 32GB DDR5 | Be Quiet! Dark Power Pro 12 - 1500 Watt | Second PSU - Cooler Master V750 SFX Gold 750W (For total of 2250W Power) | Corsair Obsidian 1000D | Custom Cooling | Asus ROG Strix XG27AQ 27" Monitors | Papusan @ HWBOT | Team PremaMod @ HWBOT | Papusan @ YouTube Channel
electrosoft Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 4 hours ago, Mr. Fox said: Sounds like you've got some good things going on for projects. I think that my problem is mental disorder. I love projects, too. But, I do not like working on multiple things simultaneously and when I start something I want to work it through to the end without stopping. I do not like projects that I do over a series of days or pick up on weekends. That's why I am exhausted. A normal person would have taken their time and not get stressed out about the idea of going to bed and finishing something tomorrow. I didn't stop for anything except to go to the bathroom. This is one reason why my young adult hobby of building street rods and modified muscle cars will never be part of my life again. I was like this as a teen/young adult as well, but it has grown worse with age. There were numerous times that I got off work on Friday and worked through the night, all of Saturday and into Sunday evening without stopping to finish one of my car projects. If I didn't finish my entire week was hell because I couldn't live with the fact that I started something that wasn't finished. Ah, then that wouldn't work for me. I like to float between projects in flux and know I always have something to work on at any given time. I can see that approach would drive you batty. My wife is a completest to the point she can have problems falling asleep if something she is working on isn't completed. She'll lay there and think about it. She will be dog tired (even now) and can't stop till something she's working on around the house is completed. Me? I can shut down my brain and disconnect. I had to learn to do it years ago because as a programmer, I couldn't turn off my brain even after work. I would sit there or lay in bed with code just dancing through my head to the point I would have to get up and keep working. A lesser form would take hold in any hardware or software (or even gaming) projects I did back then. Took awhile, but I was able to translate that into everything I do and learn to shut down and then turn it back on the next day. 2 hours ago, Papusan said: 5090's at older prices seems as a great deal nowadays. Same as for the 4090's back then. And the 5080 will probably be equal bad deal as for the 4080's. Graphics card prices continue to rise in China due to the increased cost of GDDR6 and GDDR7 memory. The entire technology industry and companies of all kinds have poured their efforts, time, and money into artificial intelligence. This is not surprising, as artificial intelligence is a booming sector, relatively new in recent years, and with enormous potential... Agreed, we didn't know how "good" we had it back then but AI and generated scarcity is driving record profits. Companies are charging these prices but I see everything in stock in abundance on the consumer side except 5090s which are in the single digits at MC so the wall has been hit for everything 5080 and below. Cheapest is the $3599 Ventus..... Those two Gigabyte Infinity OC 5090s at my local MC are still in stock after all this time at $5299.99. Biggest shock was I haven't checked Best Buy stock in quite some time. Only two 5090s in stock. The $3999 MSI gaming and $4329 Astral. Newegg cheapest in stock is $4149 TUF 5090 with a very limited selection.... I mean....sheesh.... 5080s? Plenty in stock everywhere but prices are still going to rise across the entire stack outside of the 5090 which does its own insane thing.... https://videocardz.com/newz/msi-and-colorful-announce-rtx-50-price-increases-for-distributors-rtx-5070-ti-now-starts-38-over-msrp Incoming MSI and Colorful price hikes: It will take a bit, but as always these prices will hit everywhere else and in the US prices will just adjust up with some retailers adjusting in the now even with current stock on hand because....profits.... Glad I snagged that $983 open box 5080 when I did last week. Same as snagging that $1971 Vanguard 5090 last August. The market is reaching a point where inventory is just going to stagnate because even at current pricing clearly cards aren't moving same as ram and storage. Crap tons of stock everywhere..... Something has to give and when this crashes, I hope it is spectacular... 1 Electrosoft Alpha: 9800X3D | Asus X870E Hero Crosshair | MSI Vanguard RTX 5090 OC | AC LF II 420 | TG 2x24GB 8200 @ 8000 tuned | Samsung 9100 Pro 2TB | EVGA 1600w P2 | Phanteks Ethroo Pro | Asus XG32UQDMS 32" QD-OLED Heath: i9-14900KS SP109 | AC LF III 360 | Asus Strix Z690 D4 | Gigabyte 9070XT Gaming OC Edition| 32GB DDR4 2x16GB B-Die 4000 | Samsung 980 1TB Pro | Antec Flux Pro | Alienware AW3225QF 32" OLED Electrosoft Mobile: Alienware Area-51 18 | 275HX | Nvidia RTX 5070ti | 32GB DDR5 6400 |Gen 5 2TB | 18" QHD | WiFi 7
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