*Official Benchmark Thread* - Post it here or it didn't happen :D

[tps3443]

4 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

Good news. Yes, SP118 is good for 9950X3D2. That is what mine was that I sold to @Reciever and the 9950X that I sold to @damric at oc.net was as well. SP118 is average or a 9950X (non-3D). My 4585PX is SP119, which is better than average for 9950X3D/4585PX (which are typically something like 115.). All of them will boot 8400 2:1 and run 2200 FCLK and run 8000 2:1 100% stable with 2200 FCLK very easily.

 

That's excellent @Reciever got everything up and running! And from the looks of it, he’s got it running really great too! You know, I actually almost kept my first one that was stuck at 2167fclk, and on the very last day to return, I had a change of heart lol (Glad I did!). But I’m playing with it. But the SP#’s are looking good on this one! The 1st CCD is good, but the 2nd CCD is very strong looking. 

 

I set a 1.180v Vsoc voltage and loaded right in Windows at 2,200fclk. No wheas! I will do some testing to ensure all is well with it. My last 9950X3D2 would not load 2200fclk no matter what you did! I tried literally everything. 

 

Now time for some memory testing, but at this point I’m liking it much better than that very first one. 

 

EDIT:::  2,200 FCLK + 6400c30 Gear 1:1 works perfectly fine so far. 

[Mr. Fox]

5 hours ago, tps3443 said:

 

That's excellent @Reciever got everything up and running! And from the looks of it, he’s got it running really great too! You know, I actually almost kept my first one that was stuck at 2167fclk, and on the very last day to return, I had a change of heart lol (Glad I did!). But I’m playing with it. But the SP#’s are looking good on this one! The 1st CCD is good, but the 2nd CCD is very strong looking. 

 

I set a 1.180v Vsoc voltage and loaded right in Windows at 2,200fclk. No wheas! I will do some testing to ensure all is well with it. My last 9950X3D2 would not load 2200fclk no matter what you did! I tried literally everything. 

 

Now time for some memory testing, but at this point I’m liking it much better than that very first one. 

 

EDIT:::  2,200 FCLK + 6400c30 Gear 1:1 works perfectly fine so far. 

He is using a profile I tuned for the 9950X3D2 and I bet he would be happy to export the CMO file, zip it and upload it here if you wanted to tinker with it to see if it works well for yours.

[Reciever]

12 hours ago, electrosoft said:

 

Looks awesome @Reciever! You've really switched into that next gear with hardware and cooling!

 

 

Do you have another platform to test it with the block on real quickly to see if it boots with a display out?

Nothing that would be quick, but I had a sneaking suspicion of a couple of things. 

I dusted my radiator nearby, and I also used an aftermarket pci bracket that came included with the alphacool waterblock (alphacore iirc). Luckily I didnt make the loop super lean in tubing since I know how I am. 

 

Anyways with the GPU slipping between Gen 1.1 and 2.0 (pointing to a signaling issue), the aftermarket bracket and possible contamination to dust, I went after the easiest solution. 

Removed the card while retaining the loop. Removed the PCI bracket, lightly dusted the pcie lane and 70% alcohol on the pcie traces of the GPU and installed without the bracket. 

Video is back! Was confused initially as one screen came back but not the other, turned out that cable fell out (woops!) 

 

Lets just ignore that lol. I absolutely blame ALL OF YOU for stepping up my cooling. I still like big air coolers but stepping back into water cooling has been an experience that I can enjoy and measure. Its more efficient displacement but more importantly takes up significantly less space. 

 

@Mr. Fox I am fairly confident that some dust must have been on the 9070 XT been keeping an eye on it this evening and its been sitting at Gen 4 (set manually in bios as part of diagnosing). As always everything I have purchased from you over the years has been well shipped, and exactly as advertised. Its really nice to be able to buy something set it aside for when you are ready, execute the plan and just know everything will be as expected. Even Hiew still sings your praises, he immediately sold his 5800X3D set up and enjoyed building his gift with the previous bundle. I never knew compiling shaders could move so quickly! 

 

@tps3443 just let me know if you want Brother Fox's profile, thus far its been rock solid for me on my setup. I can probably have it tomorrow night if you want it. 

 

I mentioned to Fox in our messages that I am pretty sure this platform I am running now is about as good as it can get if you are running 8-pin power. When ever the 7900 XTX @ 500w cant handle 120 FPS in games ill just set 60 and couple that with lossless scaling with the 9070 XT. Already have 100+ hours of Monster Hunter: Worlds at 4k120hz using that method. With GPU prices being such as they are, I'll ride this combo for as long as I can.

 

[Mr. Fox]

6 hours ago, Reciever said:

Nothing that would be quick, but I had a sneaking suspicion of a couple of things. 

I dusted my radiator nearby, and I also used an aftermarket pci bracket that came included with the alphacool waterblock (alphacore iirc). Luckily I didnt make the loop super lean in tubing since I know how I am. 

 

Anyways with the GPU slipping between Gen 1.1 and 2.0 (pointing to a signaling issue), the aftermarket bracket and possible contamination to dust, I went after the easiest solution. 

Removed the card while retaining the loop. Removed the PCI bracket, lightly dusted the pcie lane and 70% alcohol on the pcie traces of the GPU and installed without the bracket. 

Video is back! Was confused initially as one screen came back but not the other, turned out that cable fell out (woops!) 

 

Lets just ignore that lol. I absolutely blame ALL OF YOU for stepping up my cooling. I still like big air coolers but stepping back into water cooling has been an experience that I can enjoy and measure. Its more efficient displacement but more importantly takes up significantly less space. 

 

@Mr. Fox I am fairly confident that some dust must have been on the 9070 XT been keeping an eye on it this evening and its been sitting at Gen 4 (set manually in bios as part of diagnosing). As always everything I have purchased from you over the years has been well shipped, and exactly as advertised. Its really nice to be able to buy something set it aside for when you are ready, execute the plan and just know everything will be as expected. Even Hiew still sings your praises, he immediately sold his 5800X3D set up and enjoyed building his gift with the previous bundle. I never knew compiling shaders could move so quickly! 

 

@tps3443 just let me know if you want Brother Fox's profile, thus far its been rock solid for me on my setup. I can probably have it tomorrow night if you want it. 

 

I mentioned to Fox in our messages that I am pretty sure this platform I am running now is about as good as it can get if you are running 8-pin power. When ever the 7900 XTX @ 500w cant handle 120 FPS in games ill just set 60 and couple that with lossless scaling with the 9070 XT. Already have 100+ hours of Monster Hunter: Worlds at 4k120hz using that method. With GPU prices being such as they are, I'll ride this combo for as long as I can.

 

Awesome. I am glad it was nothing serious with the 9070 XT. 

 

The pricing of GPUs and memory is totally inexcusable. It might have been initially due to supply and demand, but it is so far off the rails now that I no longer believe that and think it is part of a fabricated fraud scheme that has been meticulously engineered by exceedingly wicked people, all of whom deserve unspeakable misfortune and destruction to be visited upon them... tragedy on an order of magnitude that makes a Mortal Kombat "finish him" move look like a love pat. Your plan is a smart one. Maximize what you have.

 

I am happy and proud that we are to blame for your wanton disregard for the frugality and functional limitations of air cooling. I've tried to save a few bucks and learn to like it, but in the end it always sucks for more than one reason, and always the same reasons.

[Papusan]

14 hours ago, Papusan said:

We are just about to see $5,000 becoming a regular price for RTX 5090.

 

What with a Asus TUF at $5099 in the US ? That would be closer to $6373.75 USD incl tax here home. Luckily you get the TUF for cheap $4500 MSRP here home, if that will make you feel better🙄

 

And no problem get 5090's here home. All type SKUs and brands. Flood of them for sale. Lots in stock doesn't make a dent. They price the cards exactly as they prefer in the market. MSRP is a lie. 

 

And a TUF 5080 costs $1750 at MSRP. You can buy +50 of them right away if you want from the same store. This is actually the new MSRP and not inflated prices due to shortages.

 

HARDWARE

Graphics Card Prices Are Rising Fast (Again), and GeForce Is Taking the Biggest Hit

 

 

Same or similar for GPUs? Most likely. 

“Everyone is lying about supply”: the shortage that drove up memory prices is called into question; is a huge bubble about to burst?

 

 

 

 

50 minutes ago, Mr. Fox said:

The pricing of GPUs and memory is totally inexcusable. It might have been initially due to supply and demand, but it is so far off the rails now that I no longer believe that and think it is part of a fabricated fraud scheme that has been meticulously engineered by exceedingly wicked people, all of whom deserve unspeakable misfortune and destruction to be visited upon them... tragedy on an order of magnitude that makes a Mortal Kombat "finish him" move look like a love pat. Your plan is a smart one. Maximize what you have.

 

I am happy that we are to blame for your wanton disregard for the frugality and functional limitations of air cooling.

 

The listings provide evidence of extreme scarcity pricing, but they do not establish a new NVIDIA MSRP. NVIDIA has not announced an official price increase for the RTX 5090. The current figures should consequently be described as observed retail listings rather than the card’s new recommended price.

 

 

Yep, a huge lie. There is no (extreme)scarcity in the whole. So there is no reason to keep prices so high. Zero... Nada. Even though RAM/NAND prices have gone up several times, there is zero reason to price graphics cards +2 times the suggested retail price. This is classic greed and market manipulation. 

 

[Mr. Fox]

19 minutes ago, Papusan said:

 

 

The listings provide evidence of extreme scarcity pricing, but they do not establish a new NVIDIA MSRP. NVIDIA has not announced an official price increase for the RTX 5090. The current figures should consequently be described as observed retail listings rather than the card’s new recommended price.

 

Yep, a huge lie. There is no (extreme)scarcity in the whole. So there is no reason to keep prices so high. Zero... Nada. Even though RAM/NAND prices have gone up several times, there is zero reason to price graphics cards +2 times the suggested retail price. This is classic greed and market manipulation. 

 

Absolutely, 100% greed motivated. It is a predatory maneuver to bankroll a fanatical and maniacal agenda that is not necessary and would fail on its own merits (advancing AI at an illogical pace). It is a plan destined for failure for the same reasons that taxing the rich into oblivion always fails. You eventually run out of other people's money. Then the house of cards collapses. AI is not bad. It is good and useful. The people and companies involved with freakish and obsessive development of it are the problem. Bad company always corrupts good morals. In some ways it resembles the nuclear arms race. You have wicked nations that would abuse it for nefarious purposes, which requires decisive action to keep them in check through the threat of mutually assured destruction.