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33 minutes ago, Etern4l said:

 

Sure, a section like that could prove to be a somewhat heavier lift for the admin team, but remember this is so far a very small community. I'm sure any dregs would be identified and robustly banned in no time (perhaps it's even possible to ban someone from a section of the forum?). One of the major challenges for our civilization in general (but Western in particular), is the pervasive polarization and inability to have a normal conversation. So having a facility to exercise that would be a positive, in that broader sense.

 

I think the real question is does a thread/area of that nature have a valid place here on these forums that are structured around technology? Is it worth the potential moderator headaches and what is the upside?

 

If you're talking about a simple, "Off topic anything goes except religion and politics" area, then I'm all for that. If you're including religion and politics that is where we diverge. 🙂

 

 

18 minutes ago, tps3443 said:


Yeah if you think about it, It really isn’t

 all that amazing selling it for just $1,000 dollars. Not to mention, any 13900K chip is already selling for $800-$900 new on Amazon and eBay due to being “Out of stock” 

 

 

 

 

It isn't even an issue of them being out of stock / current pricing because over the next month everything will normalize as demand is filled and they will be available everywhere.

 

The real question is about winning the lottery and having a very good bin to enjoy, delid, maximize even more and see where you can push your "Mo-Chillah" setup with it which is something you truly enjoy.....or at least I've seen with your last few CPUs even back to the 8086k.

 

Money has its limits.

 

What price is worth it to spin the wheel again knowing the odds of landing a similar chip or slim to none? If you can calculate your sell price that outweighs your desire to work with good silicon....that is your starting point.

 

"For an extra 1k in my pocket AND a 13900k to replace it?" Because that that would be a ~1.6k selling point.

 

 

 

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4 hours ago, electrosoft said:

Money has its limits.

 

What price is worth it to spin the wheel again knowing the odds of landing a similar chip or slim to none? If you can calculate your sell price that outweighs your desire to work with good silicon....that is your starting point.

 

"For an extra 1k in my pocket AND a 13900k to replace it?" Because that that would be a ~1.6k selling point.

As I said in previous post. Double price vs retail/item price is +1600$. Then there is a question about freebie from EVGA. So it should be 1600-2000$ or near half way to an custom 4090 if you spent the half on a new Cpu (or just buy two 13900K/KF and resell the worst bin for the profits). But whats matter most is whats fits the user's need.

 

AMD goes all in for the environment and energy saving😞 (so no smoke, melting and fire as Nvidia offer)😁

 

AMD goes the opposite way of nvidia. Referance will be 2x 8-pin or max 375w (included power from the PCIe slot).

 

20% lower power budget vs Nvidia's top dog means that AMD will leave 2-5% performance on the table. Could be that the performance with the new cards is good enough to reach the top without maxing out possible power budget. We'll see.

 

AMD Radeon RX 7900 graphics card has been pictured, two 8-pin power connectors confirmed
https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-radeon-rx-7900-graphics-card-has-been-pictured-two-8-pin-power-connectors-confirmed

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51 minutes ago, electrosoft said:

 

I think the real question is does a thread/area of that nature have a valid place here on these forums that are structured around technology? Is it worth the potential moderator headaches and what is the upside?

 

If you're talking about a simple, "Off topic anything goes except religion and politics" area, then I'm all for that. If you're including religion and politics that is where we diverge. 🙂

 

The upside would be broadening the scope of the forum which should translate to increased traffic, user engagement, etc. We can talk about cars, songs, next purchases, but on NBR we ultimately couldn't talk about covid, for instance (due to an overly heavy-handed response to a blowup). The world as we know it could be coming to an end, and the only topical conversation you could have on the old NBR would be "What are you drinking right now?". It's a bit silly isn't it? As long as people are respectful and understanding of each other while keeping things on the legal side, no topic would need to be off limits IMHO. Of course, those constraints in itself would make discussing certain topics very tricky to impossible, and some would probably need to adjust their style a little in order to effectively participate within the framework.

 

As you say, the downside is the potential for some discussions to descend into fierce flame wars, usually between just  two members, therefore for this to work you'd need an ability to cool a member off on just that part of the forum, so as to not throw the baby away with the bathwater, potentially. In fact, the UK forum I mentioned set this up as a separate forum instance (probably for this very technical reason).

 

It's a bit risky, but the result could be interesting.

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1 hour ago, tps3443 said:


Yeah if you think about it, It really isn’t

 all that amazing selling it for just $1,000 dollars. Not to mention, any 13900K chip is already selling for $800-$900 new on Amazon and eBay due to being “Out of stock” 

I like to boil things down to the simplest terms and not muddy the waters with philosophical drama. 

 

Bottom line is, he is asking you to do him a favor that he is willing to pay for. You did not seek him out offering to sell a golden chip. He's either serious about it or not. If he is not willing to pay an idiotic price for it, then he is not serious. And, unless you can fetch an idiotic price for it, why sell it? There is no incentive for you to want to sell it unless there is something major to be gained from the sale.

 

You certainly don't owe him (a total stranger) any favors. And, just because he is famous within his elite overclocking clique doesn't mean you need to give his request any special thought. If the tables were turned he wouldn't likely be offering any favors to a total stranger, especially a stranger that lives on the opposite side of the planet and is not part of his special interest PC overclocking group of influence.

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3 hours ago, Papusan said:

As I said in previous post. Double price vs retail/item price is +1600$. Then there is a question about freebie from EVGA. So it should be 1600-2000$ or near half way to an custom 4090 if you spent the half on a new Cpu (or just buy two 13900K/KF and resell the worst bin for the profits). But whats matter most is whats fits the user's need.

 

AMD goes all in for the environment and energy saving😞 (so no smoke, melting and fire as Nvidia offer)😁

AMD goes the opposite way of nvidia. Referance will be 2x 8-pin or max 375w (included power from the PCIe slot).

 

20% lower power budget vs Nvidia's top dog means that AMD will leave 2-5% performance uplift on the table. Could be that the performance with the new cards is good enough to reach the top without maxing out possible power budget. We'll see.

 

AMD Radeon RX 7900 graphics card has been pictured, two 8-pin power connectors confirmed
https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-radeon-rx-7900-graphics-card-has-been-pictured-two-8-pin-power-connectors-confirmed

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Agreed, personally $1600 would be a good starting point and even 2k isn't out of the question unless somehow a Kingpin Z790 is in the mix. 🙂

 

As for AMD, that sounds about right with the 2x knowing MPT and even AMD tools coupled with AIBs and 3x 8-pins is going to allow them to push hard like before along with better coolers and blocked cards.

 

If AMD has found ~375w limit works with 12188 SPs and 2700 boost clocks, imagine AIB models..... yum. 🙂

 

 

 

 

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This 13900KF and DDR5 7600 has definitely boosted my FPS! Most of its just from higher GPU usage which equates to more FPS. Definitely don’t see this often!

 

I’ll take it when I can get it! 
 

Nice boost over the 11900K. 
 

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55 minutes ago, electrosoft said:

 

Agreed, personally $1600 would be a good starting point and even 2k isn't out of the question unless somehow a Kingpin Z790 is in the mix. 🙂

 

As for AMD, that sounds about right with the 2x knowing MPT and even AMD tools coupled with AIBs and 3x 8-pins is going to allow them to push hard like before along with better coolers and blocked cards.

 

If AMD has found ~375w limit works with 12188 SPs and 2700 boost clocks, imagine AIB models..... yum. 🙂

 

 

 

 

 

I found that guy's offer quite underwhelming, basically a lowball. Taking about some EVGA gifts lol

There is very little availability of this CPU. The best offer on Amazon.de is $860 from scalpers for what is likely a dreadful quality specimen. He probably assumed he is going to get the CPU off a 15 y.o. in mom's basement for an extra few bucks (apologies in the unlikely event that's the case - didn't mean to be rude)

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3 minutes ago, Etern4l said:

 

I found that guy's offer quite underwhelming, basically a lowball. Taking about some EVGA gifts lol

There is very little availability of this CPU. The best offer on Amazon.de is $860 from scalpers for what is likely a dreadful quality specimen. He probably assumed he is going to get the CPU off a 15 y.o. in mom's basement for an extra few bucks (apologies in the unlikely event that's the case - didn't mean to be rude)


 

Honestly, don’t be surprised if I keep it. It’s a great chip. He also wants to do standard PayPal, and I’d have to ship across the world. Most likely they’d hold the funds until some delivery that takes weeks. It all just sounds like a head ache to me, just to turn around and buy another one when they’re not even in stock anywhere at the moment. 
 

 

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35 minutes ago, tps3443 said:


 

Honestly, don’t be surprised if I keep it. It’s a great chip. He also wants to do standard PayPal, and I’d have to ship across the world. Most likely they’d hold the funds until some delivery that takes weeks. It all just sounds like a head ache to me, just to turn around and buy another one when they’re not even in stock anywhere at the moment. 
 

 

 

The whole thing makes no sense. If he is affiliated with EVGA, they could arrange for you to ship stateside, but then why would they do that. I'm sure EVGA would just get what they need directly from Intel. I'd stay well away here.

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1 hour ago, Etern4l said:

 

The whole thing makes no sense. If he is affiliated with EVGA, they could arrange for you to ship stateside, but then why would they do that. I'm sure EVGA would just get what they need directly from Intel. I'd stay well away here.


I know for a fact the guy is 100% legit, so no worries there. I’m just not gonna inconvenience my self like that. 

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Tell him to send $2500 direct deposit to your checking account using Zelle and you will ship it next business day air for free.

 

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2 hours ago, tps3443 said:


 

Honestly, don’t be surprised if I keep it. It’s a great chip. He also wants to do standard PayPal, and I’d have to ship across the world. Most likely they’d hold the funds until some delivery that takes weeks. It all just sounds like a head ache to me, just to turn around and buy another one when they’re not even in stock anywhere at the moment. 
 

 

 

1 hour ago, tps3443 said:


I know for a fact the guy is 100% legit, so no worries there. I’m just not gonna inconvenience my self like that. 

 

Definitely keep it. CENS is a straight up guy, but for all you'll get out of it and where you'll take it I'd definitely keep it. Even a 13900KS isn't promised to be better just better than the average garbage 13900k. Plenty of 12900ks chips were garbage and barely met the criteria while running nice and toasty.

 

You bought a new 13900k, got a killer sample....enjoy it for the next few years!

 

 

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On 10/30/2022 at 10:14 PM, tps3443 said:

I’ve managed some really amazing stuff with my 13900KF 5.9Ghz is easy for a daily it seems 😃. But for some reason I cannot even post past 7600 DDR5. Funny thing is, DDR5 7600 is stable. And good for daily as well.
 

5.9 GHz is stable on the P-Cores at just @1.350V. With 4.5Ghz E-Cores, and 5.1Ghz ring. 
 

This is a great CPU, and great memory too! But, maybe I’m limited by my board.. I’m seeing people stabilize 7800+ on a (6 layer) Z790 Strix F 😭 regardless not worth it to make me upgrade motherboards. I’m happy with what I’ve got. And it could also be me and not the board. Still tinkering here and there though. Lots left to still tune. 

 

 

poor you, youre definitely cursed in ONLY being able to reach 7600 on the ram, best to throw that trash cpu out with the board and sticks, not worth all this sorrow and hassle 😂

 

13 hours ago, tps3443 said:

I decided to keep my 13900KF ECO model. I was tempted to ask like $1,000. But I’m attached to it. Plus, I would just have to go out and buy another one lol. I would be merely selling something just to sell something. Then spend more time

and money potentially crying over another one LOL. And all the 13900KF’s are sold out until 11/8, which is what I’d be after if I had to buy another.

 

I Blame @electrosoft for getting me all in to testing for low power consumption. 😄

 


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not really sure how that has anything to do with being German, but ok, whatever floats his boat i guess haha. seems like hes really interested in your chip!

 

12 hours ago, Papusan said:

It seems Hwbot will force you to run latest Benchmate version for benchmarks which requires it. Will be fun with old ancient hardware. 

 

HWBOT news

Update your benching Osses !!

It's time to update them benching OSses ladies and gentlemen, from the 29th of October plz only use BenchMate 10.12.2 or newer version.

 

Grab the latest version at the BenchMate website

 

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huh....well, as long as u dont actually have to upgrade to latest OS as @Mr. Fox said after that, then all is well. but otherwise would suck for benching older hardware on software that requires benchmate.

 

12 hours ago, tps3443 said:

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He really just did that…$1,000 bucks for my 13900KF. I’m torn. Any thoughts?

 

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honestly, i would test the waters and see how far u could push up the price. if you can really get double MSRP then absolutely go for it. u say you couldnt be bothered for such a headache but i mean think about it: receiving payment and preparing the package for send off is not really that much work. pretty sweet hourly rate if u ask me haha.

as for pricing, research some of silicon lottery's previous pricing, rates skyrocketed pretty fast if u went up the rarity scale, esp. in the single digit realms. 

as for the "work" of shopping for another chip and tuning it: cmon, thats part of the fun, that aint "work" 😋

 

id say push it as far as u can and then go for it!

 

11 hours ago, Talon said:

Finally showed up direct from China. No more need to use Nvidia's cable. There have been 0 reports of actual ATX 3.0 or 3rd party cable issues. Only the Nvidia adapter so I can rest easy with this since these are quality cables. 

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weird, why would that cable have four 8pin connectors on the psu side? most if not all native cables ive seen so far have 2x8pins on the psu side and ALL of them are rated for 600W+. is this some kinda 1200W+ rated cable? seems a bit sus to me tbh.

 

9 hours ago, Etern4l said:

I feel like this is a long shot, but given the lack of corporate constraints, perhaps the community could furnish a little thread in Off-topic for this kind of light and exclusively non-/anti-political stuff. How about something satirical like "Mr Fox and Friends" 😁  Could be members-only access for the peace of mind. I've seen something similar on one of the main UK cycling forums.

 

lol mr. fox and friends sounds like a sitcom 😄

 

9 hours ago, electrosoft said:

 

Many forums employ an, "Anything goes / off topic" area and they are a blessing and a curse.

 

I say this as someone who has moderated forums before numerous times over the decades.

 

Blessing is you can redirect all off topic / hot topics to that area and let everyone know this is where it belongs and what comes in here stays in here. Non-standard discussions can happen, users can vent and well civilized members know how to leave it at the door and be open minded of everyone and everything while they argue their viewpoints and carry on.

 

The curse is rarely do feelings or emotions stay constrained in that thread and tend to spill out into other areas with chips on shoulders everywhere as forum members will carry over their opinions of other members into their posts and it eventually shows.

 

Even worse, you will attract the dregs (on all sides) who will simply join just to pour fuel on the fire. I remember seeing new members sign up on previous sites/forums/BBSes/Usenet JUST to post in the off topic areas and stir the pot.

 

Politics and religion are really persona non grata in most forums because you end up with a festering wound that never can truly heal once it bursts.  Personally, whenever politics or religion enter the fray, I tend to quickly scroll by and keep it moving. If I want my fair share of religion and politics I'll check my Facebook for that (In all seriousness I don't engage there either).

 

I remember on NBR there were quite a few flare ups over the years once Politics / religion somehow worked their way into tech threads and mods had to clean up quite a bit.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

agreed with this stance. if you want political / religious / sexual orientation / gun laws / blah discussions, u can have that aaaaanywhere in real life, on tv, on social media, etc. its everywhere anyways and ppl rip each other's throats out because of that.

i for one like the community spirit at NBR before and here at NBT now. lets continue discussing and sharing stuff that unites us, not divides us. for flame wars, go to reddit, fb, twitter, 4chan, etc. got enough of those around...

 

8 hours ago, tps3443 said:


Yeah if you think about it, It really isn’t

 all that amazing selling it for just $1,000 dollars. Not to mention, any 13900K chip is already selling for $800-$900 new on Amazon and eBay due to being “Out of stock” 

 

 

 

 

yep agreed, in this context 1k is not enough. but as mentioned before, he should push it as far as he can and see what could be doable. no reason to make a definitive decision now. lean back, enjoy the ride, see what options u have and then decide. if he sticks to 1k, deffo not worth it. but if it goes up to 1.5 or even 2k, go for it, easy money 🙂

 

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27 minutes ago, jaybee83 said:

weird, why would that cable have four 8pin connectors on the psu side? most if not all native cables ive seen so far have 2x8pins on the psu side and ALL of them are rated for 600W+. is this some kinda 1200W+ rated cable? seems a bit sus to me tbh.

 

Nothing about CableMod is sus, they've been making quality cables for years, and many of us here use their cables. All of my cables in my system have been CableMod for years. 

 

Also native cables have an actual native 12VHPWR connection on the PSU so wouldn't have 8 pins on the PSU side, otherwise it's not really native by definition. 

 

Sure you can get away with a cheap 2x8pin Amazon cable, but why go cheap on something so expensive? Also I like headroom and never cheap out on something like power supplies or their cables. This is a custom cable from their online configurator and I could have choosen 3x8pin, but again why cheap out? I picked 4x8pin for a reason. The only downside was shipment time, took 20 days to get this cable from order to delivery, but the quality is top notch and worth the wait. 

 

WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN 3 X 8-PIN AND 4 X 8-PIN 12VHPWR CABLES?

Both the 3 x 8-pin and the 4 x 8-pin versions of our 12VHPWR will work with the new NVIDIA 40 Series GPUs, provided your PSU meets or exceeds the minimum wattage requirements. The reason we offer both of these is for users who want extra redundancy for the power being supplied to their GPU.

DON’T PCI-E PORTS ONLY PROVIDE UP TO 150W PER PORT? HOW IS IT THAT A 3 X 8-PIN CABLE CAN BE SUFFICIENT TO POWER GPUS THAT REQUIRE UP TO 600W AT PEAK?

In truth, an 8-pin PCI-e port on modern PSUs can supply over 300W of power each (up to 342W, depending on model). Thus, two 8-pin PCI-e ports are more than enough to provide the required 600W. We provide both 3 x 8-pin and 4 x 8-pin versions of this cable for extra redundancy.

**Please note that all 8 Pin PCI-e plugs need to be plugged in for the cable to function properly. If you order a 3 x 8-Pin or 4 x 8-Pin to 16-Pin, make sure that all of the 8-pin connectors are connected correctly to your PSU.**

https://overclock3d.net/reviews/power_supply/cablemod_12vhpwr_custom_cable_overview/1

 

 

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What memory clock have you been able to stabilize so far? I can do 7800 CL36 stable, but 8000 won't get stable yet unfortunately. I can post 8400 CL36 but it obviously is not stable. Would love to get at least 8000, maybe 8200 stable. I know it's being greedy but I want to keep pushing. 

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24 minutes ago, Talon said:

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What memory clock have you been able to stabilize so far? I can do 7800 CL36 stable, but 8000 won't get stable yet unfortunately. I can post 8400 CL36 but it obviously is not stable. Would love to get at least 8000, maybe 8200 stable. I know it's being greedy but I want to keep pushing. 


 

I can only do 7600 C36-46-46-46-81 truly stable through (16) iterations of HCI Memtest full coverage for 2+ hours. So I called it good enough. I’m running it at 7600 C34-45-45-45-81. I haven’t re-tested stability but good in my daily stuff. I think my Unify X is all tapped out. 
 

I do get 124,800Gbps bandwidth though and around 51ns latency with 262K tREFI and 16 tFAW. Very fast at 7600. Good enough for sure. 

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I can only do 7600 C36-46-46-46-81 truly stable through (16) iterations of HCI Memtest full coverage for 2+ hours. So I called it good enough. I’m running it at 7600 C34-45-45-45-81. I haven’t re-tested stability but good in my daily stuff. I think my Unify X is all tapped out. 
 

I do get 124,800Gbps bandwidth though and around 51ns latency with 262K tREFI and 16 tFAW. Very fast at 7600. Good enough for sure. 

 

Ok so it seems we might be at the limit of Z690 then. 

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6 hours ago, Talon said:

 

Ok so it seems we might be at the limit of Z690 then. 


 

I think so. I believe some people can get higher on Z690. But I’m not so sure. I feel like if I lower my tREFI a little and increase the RTL’s I can get a little higher. I’ll try that later. But aside from that I’m good with a stable 7600. I don’t believe I’ll be changing motherboards.
 

I would say the best thing to do now is optimize all memory timings for optimal performance. 

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What memory clock have you been able to stabilize so far? I can do 7800 CL36 stable, but 8000 won't get stable yet unfortunately. I can post 8400 CL36 but it obviously is not stable. Would love to get at least 8000, maybe 8200 stable. I know it's being greedy but I want to keep pushing. 

Wont know till I get my board back....this board will post 7600, but is not stable.

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Wont know till I get my board back....this board will post 7600, but is not stable.

I haven’t been able to post more than 7600 at all. But I have gotten it stable with a fan on my DDR5. 
 

DDR5 is super sensitive. During my stability testing the coolest stick hit 44c temps immediately started spitting errors. Then BSOD’d on me. So I’m thinking staying below 40c is paramount to stability. So I just always keep a fan on them.

 

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I haven’t been able to post more than 7600 at all. But I have gotten it stable with a fan on my DDR5. 
 

DDR5 is super sensitive. During my stability testing the coolest stick hit 44c temps immediately started spitting errors. Then BSOD’d on me. So I’m thinking staying below 40c is paramount to stability. So I just always keep a fan on them.

 

What was the voltage at?

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It could be z690 won't take you as far as z790, but it can also be the CPU. You can have a great silicon sample that doesn't have a great memory controller, or vice versa. The difference between M-die and A-die is silicon revision, and there is variance among samples in both revisions. Anything stable above 7000 is something special. It is easy to misidentify exceptions and anomalies as normal when you want luck to grant you the privilege to own a silicon sample that is  exceptional. But, look at where we were a few months ago. Even normal and below average is a big upgrade.

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1 minute ago, johnksss said:

What was the voltage at?


I will double check my bios in a little bit. I don’t remember off the top of my head. 

 

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It could be z690 won't take you as far as z790, but it can also be the CPU. You can have a great silicon sample that doesn't have a great memory controller, or vice versa. The difference between M-die and A-die is silicon revision, and there is variance among samples in both revisions. Anything stable above 7000 is something special. It is easy to misidentify exceptions and anomalies as normal when you want luck to grant you the privilege to own a silicon sample that is  exceptional. But, look at where we were a few months ago. Even normal and below average is a big upgrade.


It could very well be IMC limited. I’m good to go either way. This thing is a monster. I have never seen my GPU usage peg 100% in games and stay there for frequent periods of time. It has been years since that has happen to me. My 11900K was more or less a 90-95% type of gal LOL. 

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I'm on a DDR5 testing kick lately. Currently testing my TeamGroup 5600 CL46 $90.99 (Amazon) SK Hynix-M at 7200 CL34 1.435 VDD/VDDQ. They booted and ran AIDA at 7600 CL36 but cannot stabilize. Right now running a stab test at 7200 CL34 and looking good. 

 

For $182 32gb of these sticks are an phenomenal value play. A-Die is cool and all, but honestly this is going to provide you with 99% of the perf on Z690. Z790 might be better for A-Die. 

 

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BC8NHWJZ?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details

 

 

Edit: Hell even 7800 CL36 is booting on these cheap-0 sticks lol. Runs AIDA64. Loosened the TRFC a bit and set voltage to 1.5v. 

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