*Official Benchmark Thread* - Post it here or it didn't happen :D

[ryan]

holy smokes do I want a 3090ti......5 percent may become more over time kinda like the vanilla 3090...the 3090 was only a touch faster than the 3080 in the beginning then it tore apart....will be interesting how it fairs in 4k in 1-2 months

[electrosoft]

40 minutes ago, ryan said:

holy smokes do I want a 3090ti......5 percent may become more over time kinda like the vanilla 3090...the 3090 was only a touch faster than the 3080 in the beginning then it tore apart....will be interesting how it fairs in 4k in 1-2 months

 

We are seeing end game for driver maturation. We went from AMD being clearly outclassed at 4k to actually pulling ahead in some areas. Nvidia has distanced the 3090 from the 3080 since the beginning definitely. That gap between the 3080 and 3090ti is quite hefty. Both sets of drivers have matured and extracted more performance since the beginning. I will say as usually happens AMD's driver maturation process has resulted in more performance gains where in pure rasterization the 6900xt still beats the 3090ti in a few games even. If (when?) AMD launches their last salvo with the 6950xt it will be very interesting.

 

What AMD is lacking is a proper DLSS, NVENC and usable RT on the high end but raw performance? Yeah it's the real deal.

 

I can't wait for 4000 vs 7000 series!

 

 

[ssj92]

Anyone got any AMD GPUs? : 

 

 

BTW I ordered a 3090Ti lol

 

Probably gonna list my personal 3090 KINGPIN  

[Talon]

5 hours ago, johnksss said:

 

Okay, cool. Will check it out in a few.

 

 

Looking good!!

 

Yes, I do hear the coil whine on mine as well.... Not loud but I know its there.

 

Let me know when you pass my 16080 score. That was the best I got on a few days of AIO.

 

I see the top score so far is https://www.3dmark.com/pr/1502051 .

 

I know you can beat him! LOL

 

Side note: Your KPE was crap, just like mine. I had to seriously struggle to get to 15,7 for like months. Memory would only do 1394 on a very very very good day with a water block. And I basically beat all those scores on aio and nothing extra. All I could say was...wow!

 

I beat the top score 🙂 I get to be 3090 Ti King for a bit lol. 

 

 

https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/73713164 Will do more testing tonight after some actual gaming. 

[Reciever]

23 minutes ago, ssj92 said:

Anyone got any AMD GPUs? : 

 

 

BTW I ordered a 3090Ti lol

 

Probably gonna list my personal 3090 KINGPIN  

Pm'ed

[Papusan]

23 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

I just flat-out do not trust AMD at all. You won't find any of the Team Red fanboys griping about the issues 5950X has and I found out the hard way that things are not a rosey as they pretend they are. I just don't need to complicate my life with their performance-tuning resistant buggy garbage.

Enjoy😀 The article from deskmodder is from March 30 and not April 1th 2022

 

 

"The problem ONLY affects the Ryzen 5xxx in connection with an RDNA2 card"

 

The AMD graphics card drivers can change CPU settings in the UEFI

March 30, 2022 6:46 p.m 7 comments

I stumbled across this fact when I had installed the Adrenalin 22.3.1, as always wanted to load my UV (Undervolt) profile for the 6800XT and the computer promptly asked for a restart. That was new, it wasn't like that before. 

[KING19]

I did a fan cleanup and a repaste on my Legion 5 sometime last week after temps was starting to hit 102C at times when gaming. Finally had some time to run some benchmarks.

 

Cinebench:

 

3Dmark Timespy:

 

3DMark Firestike:

 

GPU-Z Overclocked 1660ti  Core: 160MHz+/Memory: 500MHZ+:

 

I think my results are better than expected for a 4800H/1660ti laptop

[ssj92]

3090Ti coming Friday, the perks of living in the same state as EVGA. 

 

Listed some desktop components: 

 

[Mr. Fox]

https://hwbot.org/submission/4963388_ Benchmate

https://hwbot.org/submission/4963400_ Without Benchmate

[Mr. Fox]

1 hour ago, Papusan said:

The article from deskmodder is from March 30

I did, but I suspect the only reason I enjoyed it is because I am not affected by AMD nonsense any more. Thank God.

 

It looks like a self-inflicted wound caused by their perpetual incompetence.

[electrosoft]

Whew, I mean overall the performance gains are definitely there most double digits and Cyberpunk 60 vs 45...

 

 

 

Newegg dropped the price even more on the Asrock OC Formula 6900xt to sub $1300 (Crazy this was going for $2k+ last year) now with NO limits on how many you buy. It went from 1 to 5 to 10 to none.

 

Don't forget to pick up their recommended 650w Newegg brand Rosewill 650w PSU for all your power needs.....😏🙄

 

[Mr. Fox]

17 hours ago, ssj92 said:

3090Ti coming Friday, the perks of living in the same state as EVGA. 

I'd say you were lucky for that reason, as well as having a Microcenter (at least if you are in SoCal). But, I am not sure that those would be good reasons for me to want to live there. Seems like I can think of lots more reasons I wouldn't want to, LOL.

 

Congrats on the GPU. What model of 3090 Ti did you order?

 

I look forward to seeing what kind of overclocked benchmarks scores you will experience. It is hard to make sense of the marketing fluff because it is somewhat subjective and driven based on stock/reference numbers that benefit marketing more than the end user. A 3090 Ti specs are not remarkably greater than 3090 and it feels like both a money grab and a back-stabbing show of "appreciation" for the customers that wanted the best the Green Goblin had to offer.

 

But, I asked what model you purchased because the playing field is far from level. A 3090 KPE or Galax HOF GPU, both with power limits set higher than the functional capacity of the GPU and unlocked voltage that sidestep common performance impediments, have remarkably more performance potential than a reference 3090. Yes, they might perform about the same running stock, but probably not many people that spend extra money to buy card built for overclocking care that much about stock performance. Some may buy it purely for e-peen or bragging rights. At the end of the day, it's how far you can push it beyond stock that matters most.

 

A reference design 3090 Ti might not even offer a 5% performance bump if pitted against an unlocked enthusiast 3090 GPU when you start overclocking the crap out of the enthusiast-grade 3090. It might not even keep up. Likewise, a 3090 Ti KPE or HOF might offer more than a 10% performance bump over a typical 3090 when you break out the whip and start to punish it. We don't know and can't trust marketing nonsense to tell us what we need to know. They're only going to tell us what they want us to believe.

 

If all I planned to do was play games and run stock clocks, I would save a lot of money and just buy a 3060 and call it good enough.

[Mr. Fox]

Looks like @unclewebb is still out there, doing what he always does well. I invited him and @prema to join us here.

 

[electrosoft]

48 minutes ago, Mr. Fox said:

I'd say you were lucky for that reason, as well as having a Microcenter (at least if you are in SoCal). But, I am not sure that those would be good reasons for me to want to live there. Seems like I can think of lots more reasons I wouldn't want to, LOL.

 

Congrats on the GPU. What model of 3090 Ti did you order?

 

I look forward to seeing what kind of overclocked benchmarks scores you will experience. It is hard to make sense of the marketing fluff because it is somewhat subjective and driven based on stock/reference numbers that benefit marketing more than the end user. A 3090 Ti specs are not remarkably greater than 3090 and it feels like both a money grab and a back-stabbing show of "appreciation" for the customers that wanted the best the Green Goblin had to offer.

 

But, I asked what model you purchased because the playing field is far from level. A 3090 KPE or Galax HOF GPU, both with power limits set higher than the functional capacity of the GPU and unlocked voltage that sidestep common performance impediments, have remarkably more performance potential than a reference 3090. Yes, they might perform about the same running stock, but probably not many people that spend extra money to buy card built for overclocking care that much about stock performance. Some may buy it purely for e-peen or bragging rights. At the end of the day, it's how far you can push it beyond stock that matters most.

 

A reference design 3090 Ti might not even offer a 5% performance bump if pitted against an unlocked enthusiast 3090 GPU when you start overclocking the crap out of the enthusiast-grade 3090. It might not even keep up. Likewise, a 3090 Ti KPE or HOF might offer more than a 10% performance bump over a typical 3090 when you break out the whip and start to punish it. We don't know and can't trust marketing nonsense to tell us what we need to know. They're only going to tell us what they want us to believe.

 

If all I planned to do was play games and run stock clocks, I would save a lot of money and just buy a 3060 and call it good enough.

 

This sounds like a prelude speech to ordering a KPE 3090ti. 🙂

 

Did you at least queue up for a KPE 3090ti?

 

If you're looking to rip out as big of scores as you can then the KPE 3090 ti would be the way to go (or HOF) but so far EK has announced blocks for several makes/models but KPE 3090ti is not one of them:

 

 

 

2 minutes ago, Mr. Fox said:

Looks like @unclewebb is still out there, doing what he always does well. I invited him and @prema to join us here.

 

 

Hopefully they'll pass on through and keep the magic going. This place has serious potential! All we need is to get Spartan over here to round it out.

 

 

 

 

[ryan]

does anyone have a mobile 3070 115w....curious how my 3060 compares....benchies?

[Talon]

9 minutes ago, ryan said:

does anyone have a mobile 3070 115w....curious how my 3060 compares....benchies?

 

I have the Omen 16.1" with 3070 115w.. I don't bench it often but will see if I can find a score. 

 

I don't watch this guy often but this direct die cooling setup might be interesting for some of you.. The results is actually super impressive. 

 

 

@johnksss @Mr. Fox @electrosoft

[ryan]

 

take that bro,....5179 my best....just wondering if the extra 300 bucks is worth it

[Talon]

4 minutes ago, ryan said:

 

take that bro,....5179 my best....just wondering if the extra 300 bucks is worth it

 

I'll check later to see how it compares. 

[ryan]

oh nice thanks...i almost bought the 3070 version....per key rgb keyboard 165hz 1440p screen 3070 11800h alot of upgrades but 300 more

[Talon]

2 hours ago, ryan said:

oh nice thanks...i almost bought the 3070 version....per key rgb keyboard 165hz 1440p screen 3070 11800h alot of upgrades but 300 more

 

https://www.3dmark.com/pr/1507084

 

Sorry forgot to save/printscreen my result but here is a quick run. Looks about an 18% uplift for the 3070 and the extra 2gb of vRAM is very useful for certain games, especially needed for 1440p. 

 

When I picked this up on a sale at $1499, it was a pretty good deal. The 3060 version with FHD and no G-Sync, no per key RGB, was $1300. So the performance increase and the extras made it a really slick deal. I'm not the biggest fan of laptops anymore though. They're neutered BGA crap. If it wasn't for my job and travel I would not own one. I am actually thinking about picking up a thin/light 14" that is sub 4lbs soon that can do some light gaming on the side if needed because I rarely game on overnights anymore. Usually more interested in getting in a good workout, eating and sleeping and the laptop use is usually to browse forums and watch YouTube. 

[Reciever]

Ok guys, try posting a picture on the forum we cranked up one of the settings to see how it works

[Talon]

11 minutes ago, Reciever said:

Ok guys, try posting a picture on the forum we cranked up one of the settings to see how it works

 

@ryan If you setup your ThrottleStop like this you can set any value into the Long/Short PL2 and PL1 values then hit apply. It will bypass the crap HP "adaptive" power limit crap they use and let you get significantly higher CPU performance. You need to use the Honeywell PTM 7950 stuff to keep it nice and cool though. But these settings will stop it from power throttling down. 

[Reciever]

Thanks @Talon maybe Hiew needs to lower that setting instead of max lol

 

Im sure others can confirm but that is quite blurry to my eyes

[Mr. Fox]

5 minutes ago, Reciever said:

Thanks @Talon maybe Hiew needs to lower that setting instead of max lol

 

Im sure others can confirm but that is quite blurry to my eyes

Yes, it did look blurry to my eyes as well. Here is another. The problem is down-scaling. That image is 2560x1440, but uploading to the forum it makes it smaller (1000x562) and utterly worthless for clarity. I think a  thumbnail preview is fine, but clicking the image should make it the original resolution. Otherwise, the only solution is to upload it somewhere else, then embed it using the direct image link so clicking the image opens it from the hosting site instead of here.

[Mr. Fox]

5 hours ago, electrosoft said:

This sounds like a prelude speech to ordering a KPE 3090ti. 🙂

 

Did you at least queue up for a KPE 3090ti?

No to both things. I am not planning on a GPU upgrade for probably at least one, maybe even two years.

 

And, had the answer been yes it most likely would not be for one that has one or two (or zero) options for a water block. I am really done with that. Reference PCB with hardware and firmware mods that void the warranty is the only way to fly now. I don't want to have to accept the only option or choose between one option that isn't what I want versus a second overpriced option that takes 6 months to arrive. I'm just not OK with that anymore.

 

I am really not liking a lot of what I see happening in PC tech in general. I'd probably be pleased if I were a gamer. But, because the only thing I care a lot about it overclocking, there is less to like now. Even if I were to ditch overclocking and try to rekindle my interest in gaming, nobody actually needs high end PC parts for gaming. Mid-range and last generation or two old components is almost always more than adequate for gaming.

 

That would also be difficult because I don't like any of the genres and titles that are most popular now. The past few times I thought I might want to blow money on a game, I could not find anything that I was interested in. Steam seems to be catering to indie crap that is turn-based, open world, MMORPG, RPG and Strategy and I really do not enjoy anything like that even a little bit. When I do actually find something that looks like it might interest me, it often turns out to be some online multiplayer piece of crap with no offline single-player campaign.