*Official Benchmark Thread* - Post it here or it didn't happen :D

[Clamibot]

On 10/3/2023 at 4:40 AM, Mr. Fox said:

I have been meaning to test it bare die to see how it compares with liquid metal. I went ahead and ordered a piece sized for bare die. Maybe I can find time to test this weekend.

  

@tps3443that didn't answer a question I had upon initial inspection, and I cannot understand what they are saying. Maybe @Clamibotcan translate. He clearly has an older design in the video, but it raises the same question I had as soon as I unboxed it. His video shows a backplate on each module. The kit I received DOES NOT include a backplate for both modules, only one for the outside stick with the bare side of the PCB.

 

My kit does not have the piece where the red arrow is pointing. Only has the backplae where the green arrow is pointing. Is that how yours is made also, or did they accidentally omit a part out of my kit? The photos on the Supercool web site are not helpful at all because they are incomplete and do not accurately depict what the kit should look like.

 

This is how mine arrived. Notice the difference? Is something missing, or that is the new design?

 

Which part of the video specifically did you want translated? Or is there a specific question you had that you'd like me to look for the answer for in the video?

[ryan]

[Mr. Fox]

1 hour ago, Clamibot said:

 

Which part of the video specifically did you want translated? Or is there a specific question you had that you'd like me to look for the answer for in the video?

Thanks for asking, brother. Actually, the problem is resolved now. Supercool is sending me the missing parts and I was thinking you could tell if he was talking about the new memory cooling kit design. So, all good now.

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I received a new item directly from the manufacturer in China for product review. It arrived in a wooden crate yesterday, LOL. 🤣 Needless to say, it arrived in perfect condition. The only "damage" was scratches to the cardboard box inside of the wooden box from the screws attaching the hinges.

 

[ryan]

I was thinking, how the heck do I get the temps down, thought for like 10 seconds which is rare for me. applied some physics. put 3 sheets of paper under the laptop vents so that the hot air gets pushed out faster with the lowered friction due to less surface area than the foam

 

this is amazing guys, IT DROPPED MY TEMPS BY 20c  on top of the 14c gain. thats 34c drop just from a cooler and mod. I hope other owners of the iets gt500 see this and do the same, if your trying to cool a peice of poop laptop that overheats -34c is a big deal. and yes I was able to run 4.6ghz for the first time in 2 years and it didn't even touch 90c.

 

 

I broke a cpu record in firestrike, highest 11800h cpu score out of thousands of admissions.

 

here:

 

 

Im going to boot up my favorite game of all time crysis three and see if I can run 4.6ghz on cpu and 2150mhz core. should hover around 60c...reporting back.. also I know you guys don't give a rats ass about laptops but its the passion and effort and the pay offs that is worth it even for laptops. similar methods and goals.

[Mr. Fox]

1 hour ago, ryan said:

I was thinking, how the heck do I get the temps down, thought for like 10 seconds which is rare for me. applied some physics. put 3 sheets of paper under the laptop vents so that the hot air gets pushed out faster with the lowered friction due to less surface area than the foam

 

this is amazing guys, IT DROPPED MY TEMPS BY 20c  on top of the 14c gain. thats 34c drop just from a cooler and mod. I hope other owners of the iets gt500 see this and do the same, if your trying to cool a peice of poop laptop that overheats -34c is a big deal. and yes I was able to run 4.6ghz for the first time in 2 years and it didn't even touch 90c.

I am trying to get a mental picture of what you are descibing and I am drawing a blank, especially the reference to foam. Can you please post a photo showing what you did?

 

Nice job, brother. That is a significant improvement.

[Papusan]

On 9/16/2023 at 10:41 PM, Papusan said:

1th. Say hello to Asus ROG 1070 Strix OC. My older 1070 died so I had to replace it with a new old for the GPU collection. I enjoy old hardware and you can even use it for gaming.

 

Yup, 1070 will still offer some gaming exitement/fun. And this isn't because nvidia was so kind offering new optimizions for 1000 series graphics cards. Thanks AMD😬 15:07 Testing FSR 3 on GTX 1070

 

 

 

[Mr. Fox]

This is looking pretty good. P:60x / E: 48x / C: 50x / M: 8600

[Rage Set]

I believe I met the older, slightly different version of me. He's 82 years young (God bless him) and is very much becoming a PC enthusiast - I am fixing a PC he built himself - that features nearly all EVGA components. Like many of us here, he has a love of EVGA and their customer service. I am going to try to get him to sign up here and join this thread.

 

His current specs are

13900K

EVGA Z790 Classified 

EVGA 3080 TI FTW3 Ultra

EVGA 1600W PSU

 

The reason why I am posting this, he's using a Noctua air tower and I may need help to convince him to get at least an AIO. The CPU is throttling bad - to the point it caused Windows to be corrupted due to thermal shutdowns. HIs single DDR5 6400 stick (I'm going to speak to him about that - because I know technically he only needs one stick of DDR5 RAM) is bad. 

 

I'm going to point him to this thread and I am sure he will get a warm welcome. 

[ryan]

ok ill take a picture, its hard to describe but the fix is less than 30 seconds and everyone has a peice of paper. I thought hey this might help with temps I was not thinking hey ill be able to run 4.6ghz vs 4ghz and get lower temps on top, i just woke up but yeah im testing cinebench right now for some reason the new cinebench isnt as demanding as cinebench r23 temps are lower.

 

but yeah getting just the cooler using as intended lowered temps 10c and with the paper it literally dropped it 30c which is funny as doing such a simple mod you think the geniuses at iets would include a piece of plastic like a spacer to add for it.

 

ok give me 10

[Papusan]

It seems nvidia  want to improve their product stack with new castrated SKU to compete with Intel.... Their 4060 128bit scam is priced too high. And 4060 is in short 4050. What it better than pull up a new ugly trick from their sleeves. Cap the amount vram further on 3000 series and further castrate the mem bus... Hmmm. This is well known trick to cut cost with 4000 series low/mid end cards. That's really......

 

 

Faced with the Intel Arc A580, NVIDIA castrates its RTX 3050!

 

For now, this new competition from Intel is forcing NVIDIA to offer a new card. However, given the price sectors concerned, an RTX 4050 would prove too expensive. Remember that the non-Ti RTX 4060 is trading around $300. Ayt least the 4060 didn't get 6GB vram. Maybe they will downgrade 4060 to 6GB cards in end of 2024 or when they launch 5000 series cards? who knows🥴 But hey.... It's nvidia.

 

Just to have a little response, the greens could well offer us a small castrated 3050. For this reason, the card would rely on a  GA107-325  GPU with an unknown number of cuda cores . The memory part would then be truncated, the capacity going from 8 GB to 6 GB while the bus would be shortened: 96 bits instead of 128 bits. In addition, the frequency would also be 17% lower since we are talking about 1470 MHz!

 

NVIDIA to Launch GeForce RTX 3050 6GB Variant Late 2024 with Lower Specs

 

NVIDIA is preparing to launch an upgraded version of the GeForce RTX 3050 graphics card. Unlike the original's 8GB of VRAM, this model will sport 6GB and will continue to be based on the Ampere GPU architecture. A detailed look into its specifications shows that the upcoming GeForce RTX 3050 will house the GA107-325-Kx GPU, built on the PG173 SKU 16 PCB board.

 

 

 

[ryan]

I can't seem to post pictures in the forum. Bah I'll just explain better

 

So your cooler. Laptop sits on top. Sits on a foam riser. If you put a piece of paper in between laptop and foam right under vents. It decreases friction as the compression from the foam creates a blockage of air.

 

I think someone should make a youtube tut on this simple fix..quick way to get some exposure and 200k views. Also I'd like to add I'm not exaggerating and it at the minimum knocks down temps 20c on top of the 10c the stock cooler.

 

I can post proof if anyone's skeptical 

 

ok edit, the pictures are not great as its dark in my room, but i emailed them from my phone.

 

quick update the real test is project cars to as for whatever reason its the only game that really pushes my cpu to 90-100c with lower clocks like say 3.7ghz. now im running 4.6ghz and temps are peaking at 85c but stabilizing around 74-75c.

 

 

also in the first pic it looks like the paper is blocking the flow but the paper is under the the laptop and curved down

[Rage Set]

44 minutes ago, ryan said:

I can't seem to post pictures in the forum. Bah I'll just explain better

 

So your cooler. Laptop sits on top. Sits on a foam riser. If you put a piece of paper in between laptop and foam right under vents. It decreases friction as the compression from the foam creates a blockage of air.

 

I think someone should make a youtube tut on this simple fix..quick way to get some exposure and 200k views. Also I'd like to add I'm not exaggerating and it at the minimum knocks down temps 20c on top of the 10c the stock cooler.

 

I can post proof if anyone's skeptical 

 

ok edit, the pictures are not great as its dark in my room, but i emailed them from my phone.

 

quick update the real test is project cars to as for whatever reason its the only game that really pushes my cpu to 90-100c with lower clocks like say 3.7ghz. now im running 4.6ghz and temps are peaking at 85c but stabilizing around 74-75c.

 

 

also in the first pic it looks like the paper is blocking the flow but the paper is under the the laptop and curved down

 

Good thing you've explained the first photo as it does look like you are blocking the vents. So you're using the paper to "shape" the air to where you want it? 

[Mr. Fox]

47 minutes ago, ryan said:

I can't seem to post pictures in the forum. Bah I'll just explain better

 

So your cooler. Laptop sits on top. Sits on a foam riser. If you put a piece of paper in between laptop and foam right under vents. It decreases friction as the compression from the foam creates a blockage of air.

 

I think someone should make a youtube tut on this simple fix..quick way to get some exposure and 200k views. Also I'd like to add I'm not exaggerating and it at the minimum knocks down temps 20c on top of the 10c the stock cooler.

 

I can post proof if anyone's skeptical 

 

ok edit, the pictures are not great as its dark in my room, but i emailed them from my phone.

 

quick update the real test is project cars to as for whatever reason its the only game that really pushes my cpu to 90-100c with lower clocks like say 3.7ghz. now im running 4.6ghz and temps are peaking at 85c but stabilizing around 74-75c.

 

 

also in the first pic it looks like the paper is blocking the flow but the paper is under the the laptop and curved down

Thank you for the picture that makes more sense now. I don't understand why they have that foam border on top of the cooler. I've never seen anything like that and it doesn't make any sense to me. I can see it maybe if the bottom of the laptop was supposed to seal against it so that air got forced into the bottom vents with no way to leak around the outside of it. But with a laptop smaller than the foam border it seems like it would just get in the way. I can see how your paper trick helped fix that.

[ryan]

its simple haha but harder to explain because its simple. so its just what the laptop sits on. it sits on foam. now where the vents are on the side it sits on three pieces of paper under the laptop. the curve helps dissipate airflow but its the fact their is less friction for the air to move away from the laptop, luckily I took physics in school, remember a tiny bit.

 

so if you own a gaming laptop, buy an iets gt500 and put paper under the vents inbetween laptop and cooler foam. I swear it will drop temps by 20-25c, for me its 35c lower because I have a cooler place now, opened the windows

 

they should all be combined into one, sorry again I can be careless sometimes.

 

I managed to get over 13k in cinebench r23 which is a first for me.

[tps3443]

Okay, guys !!! I don’t know how I got here with my cooling system. This all started with a 240AIO that was “Expandable” Well well, I definitely expanded it. 
 

 

Anyways, a chiller buffer tank is a MUST!!! My chiller barely cycles when just using windows and working. And, during gaming my GPU/CPU/Memory always stays the same temp! Even if my chiller reads 58F or if it reads 64F my GPU temp is always the same!!! It is crazy. 
 

My loop holds a whopping 11+ gallons. And it’s a monster. I have some adjusting that I need to make. I am getting rid of the D5 pump 300mm reservoir combo. And I am gonna use my big tank as the only reservoir with a 1.5” fill cap. I’ll replace the pump/res combo with a dual D5 pump top 
 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Papusan]

ASUS to launch four new Z790 motherboards on October 16th, expanding Z790 lineup to 27 models....

ASUS will wait for Intel to announce its new 14th Gen Core series.
 

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The nice thing.... I ordered the Black Apex Encore just in time. 3 hours later and the retail shop here home removed the product article from their sales site🙂 

[Mr. Fox]

1 hour ago, tps3443 said:

Okay, guys !!! I don’t know how I got here with my cooling system. This all started with a 240AIO that was “Expandable” Well well, I definitely expanded it. 
 

 

Anyways, a chiller buffer tank is a MUST!!! My chiller barely cycles when just using windows and working. And, during gaming my GPU/CPU/Memory always stays the same temp! Even if my chiller reads 58F or if it reads 64F my GPU temp is always the same!!! It is crazy. 
 

My loop holds a whopping 11+ gallons. And it’s a monster. I have some adjusting that I need to make. I am getting rid of the D5 pump 300mm reservoir combo. And I am gonna use my big tank as the only reservoir with a 1.5” fill cap. I’ll replace the pump/res combo with a dual D5 pump top 
 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

That's pretty sweet. I am going to have to look into doing that. Great idea. I might go for 5 gallons due to my limited space, but I think even 5 gallons would be a huge benefit. I am seriously considering the idea of putting a 5 gallon tank inside of a mini-fridge since I don't run the chiller except when benching. I will just use my 20mm hole saw and a passthrough fitting for the lines to plumb it permanently if I go that route. If it works well enough I will sell both of my 360mm radiators and route both computers through the same loop routed through the chiller and mini-fridge, LOL.

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Edit: Another idea...

Maybe skip the tank and mini-fridge and get one of these, fill it with automotive antifreeze and use it as the tank. Could even use a submersible aquarium/yard pond pump inside of it. Might not even need the chiller, LOL. If it works this would be A LOT less expensive than a chiller.

 

https://www.walmart.com/ip/Chest-Freezer-3-5-Cu-ft-Deep-Freezer-Top-Open-Door-Removable-Storage-Basket-7-Gears-Temperature-Control-Energy-Saving-Ideal-Office-Dorm-Apartment-Whi/1463248241

 

@Papusan @Rage Set@johnksss

[Papusan]

52 minutes ago, Mr. Fox said:

Edit: Another idea...

Maybe skip the tank and mini-fridge and get one of these, fill it with automotive antifreeze and use it as the tank. Could even use a submersible aquarium/yard pond pump inside of it. Might not even need the chiller, LOL. If it works this would be A LOT less expensive than a chiller.

 

https://www.walmart.com/ip/Chest-Freezer-3-5-Cu-ft-Deep-Freezer-Top-Open-Door-Removable-Storage-Basket-7-Gears-Temperature-Control-Energy-Saving-Ideal-Office-Dorm-Apartment-Whi/1463248241

 

 

 

A hell lot cheaper than a chiller🙂 Or close to 1/10 of the price here in EU/Norway. I have to pay close to 1300€ or $1,365 United States Dollar for this chiller with shipping incl tax to Norway. 

 

Test: the Alphacool Eiszeit 2000 chiller

CornerJack - October 4, 20234

After presenting you the Eiszeit 2000 chiller cooling system from the Alphacool brand,

[tps3443]

1 hour ago, Mr. Fox said:

That's pretty sweet. I am going to have to look into doing that. Great idea. I might go for 5 gallons due to my limited space, but I think even 5 gallons would be a huge benefit. I am seriously considering the idea of putting a 5 gallon tank inside of a mini-fridge since I don't run the chiller except when benching. I will just use my 20mm hole saw and a passthrough fitting for the lines to plumb it permanently if I go that route. If it works well enough I will sell both of my 360mm radiators and route both computers through the same loop routed through the chiller and mini-fridge, LOL.

 

The fridge idea is very cool, but a refrigerator can only cool a dead item. Like a bottle of soda, it doesn’t produce heat so it can cool it down and keep it there. Refrigerators cannot cool down heated water or items with a load on them, or something working against it. You would have to use the chiller to cool that 5 gallons. But the chiller would run a lot less! The colder the water is, the less it runs when you have a buffer tank lol. Which is the opposite when it doesn’t have a tank. They run more the colder they are. It’s awesome! 
 

The Mini-Fridge would still be great to hold the 5 gallons because it would insulate the water perfectly from ambient heat etc. So, the water would essentially keep the fridge cold and everything nice and cold. 

 

11 minutes ago, Papusan said:

 

 

A hell lot cheaper than a chiller🙂 Or close to 1/10 of the price here in EU/Norway. I have to pay close to 1300€ or $1,365 United States Dollar for this chiller with shipping incl tax to Norway. 

 

Test: the Alphacool Eiszeit 2000 chiller

CornerJack - October 4, 20234

After presenting you the Eiszeit 2000 chiller cooling system from the Alphacool brand,

They are super expensive here too. Especially now, they have gone up so much in price. Any decent 1/2HP chiller with no pumps is gonna be $700-$900 USD, then tax and shipping on top of that. 1HP chiller is double that. 
 

That Alphacool has built in pumps, built in power supply, and built in reservoir with fill caps etc (Lots of extras), so $1300 is not too bad. It’s about normal really.

[Papusan]

7 hours ago, tps3443 said:

The fridge idea is very cool, but a refrigerator can only cool a dead item. Like a bottle of soda, it doesn’t produce heat so it can cool it down and keep it there. Refrigerators cannot cool down heated water or items with a load on them, or something working against it. You would have to use the chiller to cool that 5 gallons. But the chiller would run a lot less! The colder the water is, the less it runs when you have a buffer tank lol. Which is the opposite when it doesn’t have a tank. They run more the colder they are. It’s awesome! 
 

The Mini-Fridge would still be great to hold the 5 gallons because it would insulate the water perfectly from ambient heat etc. So, the water would essentially keep the fridge cold and everything nice and cold. 

 

They are super expensive here too. Especially now, they have gone up so much in price. Any decent 1/2HP chiller with no pumps is gonna be $700-$900 USD, then tax and shipping on top of that. 1HP chiller is double that. 
 

That Alphacool has built in pumps, built in power supply, and built in reservoir with fill caps etc (Lots of extras), so $1300 is not too bad. It’s about normal really.

 

Just add 300L automotive antifreeze, put the Freeze at minus 35 and use a very strong pump. But you have to carefully follow any condensation🙂 

 

 

 

7 hours ago, tps3443 said:

That Alphacool has built in pumps, built in power supply, and built in reservoir with fill caps etc (Lots of extras), so $1300 is not too bad. It’s about normal really.

 

I could come away with sub 1100$ if I lived in EU and not in a tax hell as here home.

 

Btw. I wonder what G.skill want for those.... 

G.skill F5-8400J4052G24GX2-TZ5RW

https://www.gskill.com/product/165/374/1696494301/F5-8400J4052G24GX2-TZ5RW

 

Tested Voltage (XMP/EXPO) - 1.40V

 

Quote

A bit o-topic. But money inflation is also a topic when we talk about todays tech.

 

Some of-topic. This is happening right now in one of world's richest countries with $1.600 trillion USD in their fund. They can't be used because the Government/politicians are afraid for that the high inflation don't drop. They rather let own citizens suffer to hunger than use some of the money to help the poor one here home.

 

- We must do everything we can to control the rise in prices. Let the people be without food is legit, if we shall reach the goal. This in worlds richest land.

 

We do not lack the money here in Oil ritch Norway, but the government will not use any $$$  to help it's own citizens. This is sad.

 

Sounding the alarm: - Humanitarian crisis in Norway

 

The day before the state budget is to be presented, voluntary organizations gather in a joint appeal to the government....

 

- We are in a social crisis. Today's welfare society cannot ensure that families with children and others have food and what they need, says Ingvill Alisøy in the Red Cross.

 

Yep, no one is poorer than the old gready ritch man... They want everything themself. Governments also have this philsosophy as life line.

[KING19]

20 hours ago, Papusan said:

 

Yup, 1070 will still offer some gaming exitement/fun. And this isn't because nvidia was so kind offering new optimizions for 1000 series graphics cards. Thanks AMD😬 15:07 Testing FSR 3 on GTX 1070

 

 

 

 

So AMD lied to us that GTX GPUs wont support FSR 3 Frame Gen.

 

But still its great news!.

[ryan]

 

726 best is 740. not tops but close enough

[tps3443]

22 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

That's pretty sweet. I am going to have to look into doing that. Great idea. I might go for 5 gallons due to my limited space, but I think even 5 gallons would be a huge benefit. I am seriously considering the idea of putting a 5 gallon tank inside of a mini-fridge since I don't run the chiller except when benching. I will just use my 20mm hole saw and a passthrough fitting for the lines to plumb it permanently if I go that route. If it works well enough I will sell both of my 360mm radiators and route both computers through the same loop routed through the chiller and mini-fridge, LOL.

---

Edit: Another idea...

Maybe skip the tank and mini-fridge and get one of these, fill it with automotive antifreeze and use it as the tank. Could even use a submersible aquarium/yard pond pump inside of it. Might not even need the chiller, LOL. If it works this would be A LOT less expensive than a chiller.

 

https://www.walmart.com/ip/Chest-Freezer-3-5-Cu-ft-Deep-Freezer-Top-Open-Door-Removable-Storage-Basket-7-Gears-Temperature-Control-Energy-Saving-Ideal-Office-Dorm-Apartment-Whi/1463248241

 

@Papusan 

 

Once I buy a home and stop renting, I would like to install an outdoor commercial grade penguin chiller outside of my office window. (Or right beside the home A/C unit) it’ll look like it belongs there. I would route Eheim 1260/1262 pumps all wired to wireless key fobs for quick power on/off for the waterflow inlet and outlet, which will be going to quick disconnects to my office floor. 
 

This whole setup would actually be an easy install, and maybe $5,000ish bucks (I know that’s expensive, but it would be a worthy investment for a lifetime of reliable cooling lol). I would use thin insulated PVC piping under the house. This would be a setup that would last years and years and years. And you’d never hear or even look at the system.

 

As for a storage tank, I would use a 25 gallon tank which would be under the home, and very well insulated. I would probably use 6 Eheim 1262’s in series. 
 

[Talon]

 

Pretty much the review I expected. 

 

 

[johnksss]

So guys.... Interesting story. I have been playing Starfield for the past week or so now and my computer started just randomly shutting off. Made me have to go back and do certain parts of missions over and over again because I did not do a quick save. No over clocking just running off of two 360MM rad's and no chiller, but temps where not the issue. As I found out when running MSI Afterburner and Hwinfo monitors during gaming. I noticed that my 12vhpwr power was dropping to 11.3V then the computer would shut off. I checked the tips of both sides of cable and not even luke warm. I was thinking it was the power supply and that I might need to replace it under warranty, but that wasn't it either. When I unplugged both ends of the cable and replunged it back in, the voltage when back up to 12.1 volts during gaming. Not sure what the hell was going on, but I was like WTH is wrong with this POS. 😂. Turns out that from time to time one may need to unplug and re plug the cable back in from the power supply side. (as I swap between two 4090's.)

 

Also NorthridgeFix was unable to find any issue with a Zotac 4090 I had. This card runs, but seems to cut out on video from time to time. But at the time, I never unplugged the cable from the PSU side so maybe I'll test that card again today.

 

@tps3443I also asked for you about the gpu swap and he doesn't do that sort of thing. Says there are to many things that could go wrong so he doesn't do that.

 

Edit: So Zotac 4090 seems to be holding at 11.9V and not cutting out nor dropping lower. I wonder if that was the issue....