*Official Benchmark Thread* - Post it here or it didn't happen :D

[Mr. Fox]

I really like the GPU anti-sag bracket Lian Li provided with the O11D XL EVO. It's designed perfectly and much better than the way most add-on supports are designed. @Rage Setand @Raidermanand @cylixdo you guys use it with your Lian Li cases? (I am assuming it is not a new product or unique to the accessories included with this case.) I almost did not install it, but I changed my mind and figured I could get rid of it if I didn't like it. It doesn't get in the way of anything and I am so glad I went ahead and tried it out.

2 hours ago, Papusan said:

But why do you really need 20Ft tubes? Because you have put away the chiller in a corner to reduce noise?

2 hours ago, tps3443 said:

But it was difficult without having that wiggle room. I need to be able to move the chiller and tank around if I need to drain them or change loop etc.

Same here. Need to be able to move things around also for cleaning. In the Arizona blast furnace, the dirt devils and dust bunnies infest every nook and cranny. No need to disconnect lines if you have plenty of slack. I do not run my chiller all of the time. When I do, I like to pull it out from under the desk (I have it on a wheeled dolly), point the exhaust toward my office door and set a box fan behind it to push the hot air outside of my office. The stupid PVC tubing that I use for the extra long run is from Home Depot. It is for construction/industrial use and it is not as flexible and soft as the stuff we normally use for PC cooling. It tries to coil up and never straightens out, so when I wheel it back under the desk it coils up by itself. Under any other circumstances that would be very undesirable, but it works well in that scenario. That tubing is also relatively hard and the compression fittings are difficult to install (or remove) because the tubing is so hard. It doesn't easily compress like the soft tubing designed for PC cooling. It also doesn't kink in a tight bend.

 

 

  

On 10/29/2023 at 11:25 AM, Raiderman said:

A little off topic (a lot), but I was watching some college football yesterday, and looked up and saw my name on the screen. I've never seen someone else with the same name. Thought it was kind of cool 🤣😎

 

That's very cool.

[electrosoft]

8 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

I want one, and got a PSU with dual 12VHPWR cables in case I do end up with one. The vBIOS doesn't have any special unlocks on my MSI GPU, but the 1000W power limit eliminates that as becoming an impediment.. Wiith only 1.100V available, any 4090 is going to be hobbled.

 

4 hours ago, tps3443 said:

I know someone who has one with the Galax PSU included. He actually wants to trade for a weaker GPU. 
 

He wants like a 3090+$1,500 USD for the 4090 HOF and Galax 1300 watt PSU. I think shipping would be the biggest issue. Because he’s in Malasia. 
 

But, he does want to sell. And he’s legit, maybe you can get a good deal on the GPU only.

 

https://www.facebook.com/groups/1733112490342366/permalink/3660462297607366/?mibextid=6ojiHh

 

Send him a PM. Maybe he’d work something out. I got my Apex Z790 from him. 
 

 

 

That would be a sweet pick up @Mr. Fox either that or see if @Papusan can facilitate a purchase from his neck of the woods for one.

 

Speaking of which....

 

2 hours ago, Papusan said:

 

 

For the pict lover @electrosoft Yup, all black brother. Can't get enough of black🤪 But I hate the dreaded "all black" winter dark here up in the inhospitably cold North. Can't have it all☹️

 

 

 

 

Congrats on the new gear! Can't wait to see it in action and hopefully some good silicon!.....minus those Crocs of course. 🤣 I still don't get them...

 

The day Asus starts offering official "Asus ROG Crocs" is the day they're dead to me. 😁

[Papusan]

1 hour ago, electrosoft said:

Congrats on the new gear! Can't wait to see it in action and hopefully some good silicon!.....minus those Crocs of course. 🤣 I still don't get them...

 

The day Asus starts offering official "Asus ROG Crocs" is the day they're dead to me. 😁

 

Thanks.

 

That would be great. Real all Black Asus "bench" Crocs. Remember Crocs can be used everywhere bro Electro🤩 Run and buy. About time you get a pair now🤩 And all black. Not Apple white.

 

 

[Mr. Fox]

I really like using the LMG as my primary weapon. I wish I had one in my home arsenal.

[tps3443]

7 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

I really like the GPU anti-sag bracket Lian Li provided with the O11D XL EVO. It's designed perfectly and much better than the way most add-on supports are designed. @Rage Setand @Raidermanand @cylixdo you guys use it with your Lian Li cases? (I am assuming it is not a new product or unique to the accessories included with this case.) I almost did not install it, but I changed my mind and figured I could get rid of it if I didn't like it. It doesn't get in the way of anything and I am so glad I went ahead and tried it out.

Same here. Need to be able to move things around also for cleaning. In the Arizona blast furnace, the dirt devils and dust bunnies infest every nook and cranny. No need to disconnect lines if you have plenty of slack. I do not run my chiller all of the time. When I do, I like to pull it out from under the desk (I have it on a wheeled dolly), point the exhaust toward my office door and set a box fan behind it to push the hot air outside of my office. The stupid PVC tubing that I use for the extra long run is from Home Depot. It is for construction/industrial use and it is not as flexible and soft as the stuff we normally use for PC cooling. It tries to coil up and never straightens out, so when I wheel it back under the desk it coils up by itself. Under any other circumstances that would be very undesirable, but it works well in that scenario. That tubing is also relatively hard and the compression fittings are difficult to install (or remove) because the tubing is so hard. It doesn't easily compress like the soft tubing designed for PC cooling. It also doesn't kink in a tight bend.

 

 

  

That's very cool.

That black Hailea is gorgeous. Very rare in the US, being that it’s physically impossible to even buy one, I don’t know how you even got that one! While my chiller is identical with functionally the exact same guts inside etc lol. Yours is actually a real Hailea, which is very very rare in a 110V. I have thought about ordering the Hailea front control LCD on AquaTuning for like $30 bucks, and painting mine black. Then I’d have that same look only a replica Hailea lol. Of course you can find them in other countries, but only 220v variants and probably impossible to even ship here at all. So, you’ve got a nice machine there. I will say mine has been oddly reliable considering it’s used every single day hours on in for like 3 years now, and it was built in 2015 so my machine is gonna be 9 years old soon. 
 

Anyways, another thing I wanted to mention. I placed that 80lbs+ water tank on my chiller and it’s much quieter lol. I dunno why, but something to do with being crushed and pressed down very firmly has made it super quiet 😂

[tps3443]

@PapusanI got it calibrated. I added one pump at a time to check how much the flow increased. Getting 400+ L/H. 🤯
 

Adding the 5th pump offered the worst return on flow rate it seems. 
 

(3) D5’s looks to be a sweet spot offering triple the performance of just (1) D5. The 4th pump added 70-75% of a single D5, while the 5th pump only scaled about 40-50% of a single D5. I would assume a 6th and 7th D5 would follow this pattern. 
 

 

 

 

[Mr. Fox]

2 hours ago, tps3443 said:

That black Hailea is gorgeous. Very rare in the US, being that it’s physically impossible to even buy one, I don’t know how you even got that one! While my chiller is identical with functionally the exact same guts inside etc lol. Yours is actually a real Hailea, which is very very rare in a 110V. I have thought about ordering the Hailea front control LCD on AquaTuning for like $30 bucks, and painting mine black. Then I’d have that same look only a replica Hailea lol. Of course you can find them in other countries, but only 220v variants and probably impossible to even ship here at all. So, you’ve got a nice machine there. I will say mine has been oddly reliable considering it’s used every single day hours on in for like 3 years now, and it was built in 2015 so my machine is gonna be 9 years old soon. 
 

Anyways, another thing I wanted to mention. I placed that 80lbs+ water tank on my chiller and it’s much quieter lol. I dunno why, but something to do with being crushed and pressed down very firmly has made it super quiet 😂

I bought it from Performance-PCs.  They have 3 in stock. I know @Rage Sethas been wanting to snag one. Good price as well. https://www.performance-pcs.com/water-cooling/water-chillers/hailea-ultra-titan-hc-500a-110v-1-2hp-790watt-cooling-capacity-waterchiller.html This is the exact one I have, but it is a newer version that has a titanium water tank instead of the crappy plastic tank that cracked on me and had to be repaired. If I had $600 to blow, I would grab one of the three so I could have two.

[tps3443]

18 minutes ago, Mr. Fox said:

I bought it from Performance-PCs.  They have 3 in stock. I know @Rage Sethas been wanting to snag one. Good price as well. https://www.performance-pcs.com/water-cooling/water-chillers/hailea-ultra-titan-hc-500a-110v-1-2hp-790watt-cooling-capacity-waterchiller.html This is the exact one I have, but it is a newer version that has a titanium water tank instead of the crappy plastic tank that cracked on me and had to be repaired. If I had $600 to blow, I would grab one of the three so I could have two.

Holy crap. I had no idea. I’ve googled and all you see is out of country sales on those. Man $600 is amazing too. 
 

Didnt @Rage Setbuy one from the guy I got mine from a while back? 

[Mr. Fox]

46 minutes ago, tps3443 said:

Holy crap. I had no idea. I’ve googled and all you see is out of country sales on those. Man $600 is amazing too. 
 

Didnt @Rage Setbuy one from the guy I got mine from a while back? 

Yeah, but if I recall correctly it was broken/non-functional and the guy would not communicate. I think that he ended up getting a refund and still has the broken chiller.

[cylix]

@Mr. Fox Didn't need to use the bracket because i made a reverse build where the GPU stays vertically in the back 🙂 But i think i got it aswell with the case

[tps3443]

7 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

Yeah, but if I recall correctly it was broken/non-functional and the guy would not communicate. I think that he ended up getting a refund and still has the broken chiller.

Technically mine was broken too. But I was able to fix it. That little metal clip will fall off and it’s like a tip sensor almost for safety. So when the chillers ships chances are it won’t turn on. 
 

 

[Mr. Fox]

On 10/23/2023 at 7:07 PM, saturnotaku said:

Wasn't sure if I should make a new thread on this, but I'm hoping some folks here can help me potentially corroborate or disprove a conspiracy theory. I've been installing NVIDIA drivers with NVCleanstall, removing telemetry and only putting on the basics (control panel, USB-C, HDMI audio). I did this with the most recent set (545.84) on my 4080-equipped Legion Pro 7i. I reinstalled Quake 2 RTX and fired it up. At 1080p and the default in-game settings (medium RT), I was seeing around 100-110 fps. That was OK but seemed kind of low so I went to the YouTubes and found a video of someone testing the game on the same GPU with the same power limit, albeit on a different laptop. In his video, at the same settings, he was getting around 150 fps. After trying various settings, I then DDU wiped the drivers and then reinstalled them from the .exe without NVCleanstall, and lo and behold, my laptop was seeing the same performance as in the video. I don't have the time right now to try again with different games, but if any of the enterprising users here can double check that I'm not going completely insane, this might be worth looking into.

If all goes as planned I am going to look into this today.  On which version and release of Windows are you having this occur?

[Talon]

16 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

I really like using the LMG as my primary weapon. I wish I had one in my home arsenal.

 

When are we setting up the notebooktalk/NBR squad lol? 

[electrosoft]

8000 Sticks from @Raiderman all factory sealed and ready for some love are here safe and sound (thanks bro!)

 

Ended up picking up an Asus Strix Z790I ITX motherboard from Amazon open box for $286 since Asus isn't refreshing their ITX boards.

 

Looking forward to testing the MSI Z790I Edge against it both with the SP115 13900KS and the 8000 sticks seeing what and which gives up the ghost first.

 

 

 

Decided to cover my eyes and ordered an open box MSI 7900XTX Gaming Trio for $827 to swap into my main rig to drive for a couple of weeks with the MSI x670e Carbon + 7800X3D (thus completing a full AMD MSI themed look). I know it won't touch my Suprim 4090 but if it's close enough I can envision selling my 4090 at cost to someone who wants decidedly above average silicon and memory and applying the $1000 difference elsewhere....

 

 

....of course if the 7900xtx blows chunks then...well.....🤣

 

I was tempted to pick up a reference model from AMD due to its smaller size and USB-C out. They seem to be the only place to get the original AMD spec'd design now.

 

 

 

 

[Mr. Fox]

On 10/23/2023 at 7:07 PM, saturnotaku said:

Wasn't sure if I should make a new thread on this, but I'm hoping some folks here can help me potentially corroborate or disprove a conspiracy theory. I've been installing NVIDIA drivers with NVCleanstall, removing telemetry and only putting on the basics (control panel, USB-C, HDMI audio). I did this with the most recent set (545.84) on my 4080-equipped Legion Pro 7i. I reinstalled Quake 2 RTX and fired it up. At 1080p and the default in-game settings (medium RT), I was seeing around 100-110 fps. That was OK but seemed kind of low so I went to the YouTubes and found a video of someone testing the game on the same GPU with the same power limit, albeit on a different laptop. In his video, at the same settings, he was getting around 150 fps. After trying various settings, I then DDU wiped the drivers and then reinstalled them from the .exe without NVCleanstall, and lo and behold, my laptop was seeing the same performance as in the video. I don't have the time right now to try again with different games, but if any of the enterprising users here can double check that I'm not going completely insane, this might be worth looking into.

11 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

If all goes as planned I am going to look into this today.  On which version and release of Windows are you having this occur?

OK I did this test using the latest driver 546.01 and found no meaningful difference in performance with my desktop 4090. If you are experiencing the same issue with 546.01 then maybe there is something different in the laptop drivers or something specific to the INF parameters the OEM specified for your specific laptop. I know Dell/Alienware used to make certain specifications for their laptops. Below are the results with MSI Afterburner Benchmark Utility for Quake II RTX. This was tested using W10 22H2 with Atlas OS mods.

 

NVIDIA Unmodded *All Cancer* 546.01
01-11-2023, 18:28:39 q2rtx.exe benchmark completed, 25829 frames rendered in 111.750 s
                     Average framerate  :  231.1 FPS
                     Minimum framerate  :  220.4 FPS
                     Maximum framerate  :  239.3 FPS
                     1% low framerate   :  215.6 FPS
                     0.1% low framerate :  209.6 FPS

NVIDIA CLeanStall Modded 546.01
01-11-2023, 18:07:56 q2rtx.exe benchmark completed, 31472 frames rendered in 135.359 s
                     Average framerate  :  232.5 FPS
                     Minimum framerate  :  221.5 FPS
                     Maximum framerate  :  240.2 FPS
                     1% low framerate   :  218.4 FPS
                     0.1% low framerate :  160.9 FPS

 

[tps3443]

On 10/31/2023 at 6:36 AM, Mr. Fox said:

I want one, and got a PSU with dual 12VHPWR cables in case I do end up with one. The vBIOS doesn't have any special unlocks on my MSI GPU, but the 1000W power limit eliminates that as becoming an impediment.. Wiith only 1.100V available, any 4090 is going to be hobbled.

What does your 4090 score in Port Royal?

[Mr. Fox]

27 minutes ago, tps3443 said:

What does your 4090 score in Port Royal?

Depends on if ECC is enabled or disabled. Scores are higher with that disabled, but HWBOT requires it be enabled for 3DMark. The chance of getting a higher than normal or inflated benchmark score due to bugs and glitches is more likely with ECC disabled and very unlikely with it enabled.

 

ECC Enabled: 28654 

https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/94304340 | https://hwbot.org/submission/5276039_mr._fox_3dmark___port_royal_geforce_rtx_4090_28654_marks

 

The score goes up about 1,000 points with ECC disabled. That guy you mentioned on Facebook ran his samples with ECC disabled, so can't really compare. He must not be into competitive benching or else it would have been disabled or run both ways. You can tell looking in the benchmark details on 3DMark or by looking at the available VRAM value in GPU-Z. ECC enabled reduces the available VRAM to 23552MB.

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I am seriously thinking about moving my 4090 back to the case with the Dark and making the Apex my "work computer" motherboard. I spent some time with the Z690 Dark today. I put the 13900KS that used to be in the Apex before I purchased the one with higher E-core SP ratings and I am seeing what I thought I remembered seeing before. The inferior 13900KS installed in the Z690 Dark overclocks better, with less voltage, runs about 8°C cooler, has better Cinebench scores and better memory latency scores in AIDA64 than the Apex.

 

I am going to do more testing to confirm this is accurate and if it is true I will swap places on the desk with the entire case and swap the GPUs then put the better 13900KS in the Dark mobo. That will be easier than moving the motherboards and redoing all of the cooling lines, etc.

[Papusan]

Cablemod continue offer high quality 12VHPWR cables/connectors. On top the Cablemod and on the bottom you see the vanilla Nvidia cable....

 

 

Yup... Cablemod products can't be any worse than the stock cables that follow the GPU's. 

 

 

Again where is the QC? Shuffled down the drain/toilet to cut costs? If they can't see that their cables/connectors are bent/ broken in their QC you can't expect that they know if their custom cables/adapters fits the cards they are meant to be used with. 

 

[Mr. Fox]

I know I have already mentioned this before, but this has been a real game-changer, especially on the upload side of things. I had decent-enough internet before, but this is so much better... and, cheaper. Plus, no data limits my old ISP used as a lame excuse to milk more money from customers.

[electrosoft]

31 minutes ago, Mr. Fox said:

I know I have already mentioned this before, but this has been a real game-changer, especially on the upload side of things. I had decent-enough internet before, but this is so much better... and, cheaper. Plus, no data limits my old ISP used as a lame excuse to milk more money from customers.

 

That is sweet sweet high speed symmetrical beauty right there.

 

Meanwhile in my neck of the woods, with T-Mobile actually doing damage to Xfinity and Xfinity having to compete, we're "blessed" with this for $55.99/mo:

 

 

 

Mind you, this is actually a drastic improvement to costs where I live. Before T-Mobile made a dent with their Unlimited Internet, Xfinity tried to impose data caps AND charge $80-90 for this level of service and force you into bundles with their cable service and phone service and grouped channels.

 

They are finally feeling the pain and having to compete. I'm saving ~$180-200/mo now versus my old plan and have completely cut the cord.

 

The upload is terrible but I find the DL speed reduction from my previous 1.2gigabit not that noticeable except during massively large downloads and even then it is manageable. 

 

 

 

 

[electrosoft]

Reinstalled the MSI Z790I w/ 13900ks and after reading a lot of reviews picked up an EK Nucleus 240 for the next ITX adventure to replace the EVGA 280 and ID Cooling 280:

 

 

The EK Nucleus 240 is much better than the EVGA and ID Cooling and much quieter knocking off an additional 7c and 10c respectively. CB23 = 72c tops. I think it's time to replace the 360 in my desktop rig with an EK Nucleus or Galahad Trinity (they don't make the Trinity in a 240).

 

What I like about the EK is it has no RGB and no software needed. Two leads: CPU fans and Pump, that's it.

 

This is purposely capped at PL1 and PL2 253w and a -0.125 UV and nothing else on the MSI same as with the EVGA and ID Cooling. The MSI board tops out at 288w so you have to keep everything at or below that. This is pure stock for clocks and it runs circles around my buddy's 13900k and his is on water and pulls way more with higher temps to achieve a lower score.

 

 

After, I popped in the G.Skill 8000 sticks in from @Raiderman and as expected they booted right up at 8000 XMP no problem on the MSI Z790I Edge. I expect no problems since my buddy's GEIL 8200 sticks booted right up XMP (which they wouldn't do on his Hero w/ 13900k). MSI rates the Z790i Edge at 8000+.

 

 

In a few days my MSI 7900XTX and Asus Z790I Strix. I'll pop in the MSI 7900XTX in the MSI Z790I first to test it out without having to break down my Suprim in my main rig to see how it stacks up in WoW, FO76 and Starfield 10+ months removed since my adventures with the XFX 7900xtx which didn't go too well.

 

Then I'll do it all over again with the Strix to compare.

 

 

 

[Mr. Fox]

On 10/23/2023 at 7:07 PM, saturnotaku said:

Wasn't sure if I should make a new thread on this, but I'm hoping some folks here can help me potentially corroborate or disprove a conspiracy theory. I've been installing NVIDIA drivers with NVCleanstall, removing telemetry and only putting on the basics (control panel, USB-C, HDMI audio). I did this with the most recent set (545.84) on my 4080-equipped Legion Pro 7i. I reinstalled Quake 2 RTX and fired it up. At 1080p and the default in-game settings (medium RT), I was seeing around 100-110 fps. That was OK but seemed kind of low so I went to the YouTubes and found a video of someone testing the game on the same GPU with the same power limit, albeit on a different laptop. In his video, at the same settings, he was getting around 150 fps. After trying various settings, I then DDU wiped the drivers and then reinstalled them from the .exe without NVCleanstall, and lo and behold, my laptop was seeing the same performance as in the video. I don't have the time right now to try again with different games, but if any of the enterprising users here can double check that I'm not going completely insane, this might be worth looking into.

5 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

OK I did this test using the latest driver 546.01 and found no meaningful difference in performance with my desktop 4090. If you are experiencing the same issue with 546.01 then maybe there is something different in the laptop drivers or something specific to the INF parameters the OEM specified for your specific laptop. I know Dell/Alienware used to make certain specifications for their laptops. Below are the results with MSI Afterburner Benchmark Utility for Quake II RTX. This was tested using W10 22H2 with Atlas OS mods.

 

NVIDIA Unmodded *All Cancer* 546.01
01-11-2023, 18:28:39 q2rtx.exe benchmark completed, 25829 frames rendered in 111.750 s
                     Average framerate  :  231.1 FPS
                     Minimum framerate  :  220.4 FPS
                     Maximum framerate  :  239.3 FPS
                     1% low framerate   :  215.6 FPS
                     0.1% low framerate :  209.6 FPS

NVIDIA CLeanStall Modded 546.01
01-11-2023, 18:07:56 q2rtx.exe benchmark completed, 31472 frames rendered in 135.359 s
                     Average framerate  :  232.5 FPS
                     Minimum framerate  :  221.5 FPS
                     Maximum framerate  :  240.2 FPS
                     1% low framerate   :  218.4 FPS
                     0.1% low framerate :  160.9 FPS

 

OK, here is Windows 11 Ghost. Again, no meaningful change using cancer versus NVCleanStall modding. Windows 11 0.1% lows are lower than Windows 10, but not enough to really matter. Still over 100 FPS.

NVIDIA CLeanStall Modded 546.01
01-11-2023, 22:48:26 q2rtx.exe benchmark completed, 75010 frames rendered in 316.078 s
                     Average framerate  :  237.3 FPS
                     Minimum framerate  :  139.4 FPS
                     Maximum framerate  :  246.6 FPS
                     1% low framerate   :  214.6 FPS
                     0.1% low framerate :  112.4 FPS

NVIDIA Unmodded *All Cancer* 546.01
02-11-2023, 00:20:03 q2rtx.exe benchmark completed, 51628 frames rendered in 215.281 s
                     Average framerate  :  239.8 FPS
                     Minimum framerate  :  157.9 FPS
                     Maximum framerate  :  246.3 FPS
                     1% low framerate   :  214.9 FPS
                     0.1% low framerate :  102.9 FPS

 

  

 

 

[Papusan]

13 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

OK, here is Windows 11 Ghost. Again, no meaningful change using cancer versus NVCleanStall modding. Windows 11 0.1% lows are lower than Windows 10, but not enough to really matter. Still over 100 FPS.

NVIDIA CLeanStall Modded 546.01
01-11-2023, 22:48:26 q2rtx.exe benchmark completed, 75010 frames rendered in 316.078 s
                     Average framerate  :  237.3 FPS
                     Minimum framerate  :  139.4 FPS
                     Maximum framerate  :  246.6 FPS
                     1% low framerate   :  214.6 FPS
                     0.1% low framerate :  112.4 FPS

NVIDIA Unmodded *All Cancer* 546.01
02-11-2023, 00:20:03 q2rtx.exe benchmark completed, 51628 frames rendered in 215.281 s
                     Average framerate  :  239.8 FPS
                     Minimum framerate  :  157.9 FPS
                     Maximum framerate  :  246.3 FPS
                     1% low framerate   :  214.9 FPS
                     0.1% low framerate :  102.9 FPS

 

  

 

 

 

Thanks for the testing. What with cancer driver install versus NVCleanStall modding on same exact OS? Or did you test the different driver install on same OS? 

 

 

Nvidia only want to give you the bare minimum with the SUPER refresh... . For the RTX 4080 SUPER, this implies a 320W TDP, while the RTX 4070 Ti SUPER is expected to feature a 285W TDP. The only exception is the RTX 4070 SUPER, which would see a 20W increase in power. What's the problem give the 4080 SUPER 400W TDP and slight bump in voltage to utilize higher TDP? 

 

https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-geforce-rtx-4080-4070ti-4070-super-gpus-rumored-to-require-320-285-220w-power

 

 

Btw. I put in my 14900K. Not a lottery winner. 102P and 80P for the E-cpores. Oh'well it's what it is.  The 14900KS is probably out middle/late January if I bother spend more money. 

 

Some testing with the 14900K.

https://hwbot.org/submission/5388367_papusan_y_cruncher___pi_1b_core_i9_14900k_15sec_339ms

 

18 hours ago, Papusan said:

Again where is the QC? Shuffled down the drain/toilet to cut costs? If they can't see that their cables/connectors are bent/ broken in their QC you can't expect that they know if their custom cables/adapters fits the cards they are meant to be used with. 

 

Still having black screen / 100% fan issue after switching to 1.1 180° adapter

Had problems with the black screen / 100% fan issue so i ordered a 1.1 version of the 180 angled adapter, received it 2 weeks ago. All has been working well for 2 weeks but i just had another black screen / 100% fan again today quickly after launching a game.

 

90' 12HVPWR cable not compatible with EKWB blocks

 

[win32asmguy]

15 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

OK I did this test using the latest driver 546.01 and found no meaningful difference in performance with my desktop 4090. If you are experiencing the same issue with 546.01 then maybe there is something different in the laptop drivers or something specific to the INF parameters the OEM specified for your specific laptop. I know Dell/Alienware used to make certain specifications for their laptops. Below are the results with MSI Afterburner Benchmark Utility for Quake II RTX. This was tested using W10 22H2 with Atlas OS mods.

 

I used this tool to clean install 546.01 on the Clevo X370 running Windows 10. The only thing to note is I had to select NV Platform Controllers in order for dynamic boost to work so power limits could go beyond the vbios default of 150W.

[Mr. Fox]

5 hours ago, Papusan said:

Thanks for the testing. What with cancer driver install versus NVCleanStall modding on same exact OS? Or did you test the different driver install on same OS? 

I tested stock driver and same driver with NVCleanStall removing all the filth on Windows 10 22H2 Pro and then repeated with the same stock and NVCleanStall mod on Windows 11 22H2. So, both drivers and both OSes.

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5 hours ago, Papusan said:

Still having black screen / 100% fan issue after switching to 1.1 180° adapter

Unrelated topic...  but, also relating to black screen issues.

 

If you or anyone you encounter is having random black screen issues with a 4090, don't automatically blame the GPU. I had this annoying issue with the Strix and MSI Suprim on the Dark mobo and the problem followed it to the Apex mobo. It might be fine for days and then suddenly everything stays black and I had to reboot, sometimes more than once, to get the screen to light up. This was with my 165 Hz 1440p screen and my 144Hz 4K. I was using an expensive DP 1.4 cable that I had been using for a few years.

 

Out of curiosity and frustration I started playing around with cheap HDMI cables and the screen would never go black using HDMI. Everything worked fine. But, I could only run the displays at 60 Hz with the cheap HDMI cable. So, I bought a more expensive DP 2.0 cable. Same issue. Didn't help. Cheap HDMI was fine, but expensive DP cable had random black screen issues. The DP 2.0 cable I purchased had an issue with the housing at the end falling apart where it plugs into the monitor. I could not press the button to release the hooks because the housing was getting loose. So much for the idea of getting what you paid for. But, lucky for me it was junk because that helped me identify the issue was, in fact, the cable being used and not the GPU.

 

So, I purchased an even more expensive DP 2.1 cable rated for 8K @ 120Hz and 80 Gbps bandwidth. Problem solved. No more random black screens. Works flawelessly now. I installed this cable on October 5 and haven't had a single black screen issue even once.