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12 minutes ago, ryan said:

change of heart. out with the desktop in with the calculator

 

 

Your floating point calculations with a calculator will be limited only by the buoyancy of your wallet.

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On 11/17/2023 at 12:41 AM, Papusan said:

Here is more pictures for the pict jockey @electrosoft😀 Say hello to the MSI GeForce GTX 960 GAMING 100ME (Limited Edition) for my GPU collection. Fancy Green and I mean it have Samsung vram. I paid 200,-  or $18.29 USD for this limited beauty so not a huge loss if it fails. And the card have still the void sticker on one of the screws so it probably need a re-paste. The nice part, this card come with a backplate opposite to the more vanilla (MSI) GTX 960 cards. Fantastic that MSI could afford that.

 

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Here's the thing... I always try go the cheapo route if I can.  No in Hell I would pay $150 USD as this stupid want for his 8 years old green goblin Edition on ebay. So no difference than with newer cards. No in hell I would paid I cent above $700 for Nvidia's $1199 4080 Scam.

 

Edit. Yup, never re-pasted. Same old dryed out stamp as most of the OEM prefer to use. And no thermal pads for the vram. Can't be cheaper doing it this way....

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Finally had the time to take a look on the MSI GeForce GTX 960 GAMING 100ME (Limited Edition). Not a bad sample. Asic 80.8% and +295 on the cores in GPUPI without touching the voltage. And Samsung vram. Yup, not bad.

 

GTX 960 GPUPI - 3.2

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GTX 960 GPUPI - v3.3

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https://hwbot.org/submission/5440437_papusan_3dmark___sky_diver_geforce_gtx_960_33917_marks?recalculate=true

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where is the picture jockey anyways?

 

I just reset my tv as it looked bland, I thought it was just my settings but after doing a full factory reset and setting a few changes, holy smokes does this tv look good at 4k I can't imagine 8k with quantum dot oled. My next TV will be a hisense u88km, or a refurbished q95a samsung. they are both great I was going to buy a OLED tv on janaurary 2nd-9th but I changed my mind I prefer a brighter image vs deeper blacks. @tps3443 talk me out of this one bro, how do you possibly pick a tv or monitor, so many good options.

 

More serious note, I just ordered the tubing for my calculator project, hopefully I will be able to game at 1 frame per 3 seconds in doom on it, not expecting crazy performance like that but yeah back to my orignal argument games have not developed much in 20 years. look at tetris vs crysis, they both trade blows visually and are both mind numbingly complex, then take it further to last of us and you get my point. thing is although games have not advanced much since tetris and minesweeper in their complexities. one tech has advanced beyond comprehension. 

 

toasters.

 

nuff said, you want the best buy a toaster

 

NASA did a beam of info in LAZER format, and they are missing the one hallmark of human accomplishment. if the aliens need one fact about us, its that some genius I think it was issac newton. he made the most complex form of tech we know today and its been nearly a century and still nothing has been able to top the toaster.

 

 

anyone else interested in toasters feel free to post below

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Yup. Voltage control work with GPUTweakll with newer nvidia drivers. MSI Afterburner.... Nope. But if I add voltage first with the Asus tool, then I can see the voltage slider in Msi Afterburner being maxed out. Nice. And the stupids at Nvidia still haven't fixed the locked down voltage for Maxwell graphics cards. When will they do the same for Pascal and Turing? When Blackwell is out? Hmmm.

 

GTX 960  @ryan do you know what the Norwegian word Gull meaning in English?😀

 

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Well, I still have to strip the memory heating blankets off once the water cooling jackets arrive. But, it is done otherwise. Seems really solid in terms of performance. Easily running 8000 with zero effort so I anticipate another 8600 daily stable ride here. My IMC SP rating is higher on this one even though the E-core and overall SP rating is lower.

 

Ran a couple of quick benchmarks with cores synched at P-60x, E-47x, 50x cache and no issues. Should be a good daily profile for the CPU, too.

 

I always forget how cheap and flimsy these Apex boards feel compared to the Dark. I think it weighs literally half as much, and both the white one and the black one are not even flat. They have a big bow in the PCB until you bolt it to the chassis. ASUS is just so dad gum chintzy on build quality.

 

I did not realize I was going to lose 4 SATA ports. I had 8 on the Dark. So, now I am short four 1TB drives, so that kind of sucks. I don't know why this has only four SATA ports. I'm glad I have six NVMe drives installed or the missing SATA ports would be an issue. It still kind of is, but I'll get over it in a day or two, LOL.

 

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On 12/29/2023 at 8:18 PM, ryan said:

@tps3443 talk me out of this one bro, how do you possibly pick a tv or monitor, so many good options.

He has disappeared. I hope his family is on a Christmas/New Year vacation or something. I have texted him several times over the past 5 or 6 days and got no response. I hope nothing is wrong and he is just tied up with family stuff.

 

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A few people have disappeared.  hopefully like you say all is ok.

 

I wont be getting my van fixed its a total loss to the insurance company so on the upside ill get money but not much as they give the lowest amount possible. van could be worth 8000 but in the kelley blue book its worth 2000..

 

I can't wait to get a desktop in a few weeks looking forward to it, should be fun and satisfying at the same time. I will either get a A770 if I dont get much, if I get like say 10 000 im going all out much the same way @jaybee83 did but ill skimp on a few things but def a 4090 for gaming and then ill buy a miniled or oled tv as a monitor. very exciting for me. or I could just save my money not sure what will happen but all in good time.

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3 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

I did not realize I was going to lose 4 SATA ports. I had 8 on the Dark. So, now I am short four 1TB drives, so that kind of sucks. I don't know why this has only four SATA ports. Im glad I have six NVMe drives installed or the missing SATA ports would be an issue. It still kind of is, but I'll get over it in a day or two, LOL.

 

The stupids at Asus engineering team thought it was much better with an 8-pin instead for the 6-pin power connector for the board. Hence they removed 2 SATA ports to be able to have enough space on the board to provide more power for USB-C Storage. They mean desktops should have same features as Jokebooks "on the go". And they offered same stupididity when they removed the Gen_5 PCIe add in board for the new useless M.2 Gen 5 slot right below the CPU. Yup, they mean OC/gamer boards should only use 8-PCIe lines for the GPU.

 

I have no need for the M.2_1 slot. Useless. Give back the Add in board if I want to steal PCIe lines from the GPU.

 

* M.2_1 shares bandwidth with PCIEX16(G5)_2 and PCIEX16(G5)_1. When M.2_1 is occupied with SSD device, PCIEX16(G5)_2 will be disabled and PCIEX16(G5)_1 will run x8 only.

 

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2 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

Well, I still have to strip the memory heating blankets off once the water cooling jackets arrive. But, it is done otherwise. Seems really solid in terms of performance. Easily running 8000 with zero effort so I anticipate another 8600 daily stable ride here. My IMC SP rating is higher on this one even though the E-core and overall SP rating is lower.

 

Ran a couple of quick benchmarks with cores synched at P-60x, E-47x, 50x cache and no issues. Should be a good daily profile for the CPU, too.

 

I always forget how cheap and flimsy these Apex boards feel compared to the Dark. I think it weighs literally half as much, and both the white one and the black one are not even flat. They have a big bow in the PCB until you bolt it to the chassis. ASUS is just so dad gum chintzy on build quality.

 

 

What did the Z790 Apex Encore read for the SP? Sometimes older Asus chipsets aren't always accurate with newer Intel CPUs on the same socket. I know my Z690 D4 read my 13900ks all over the place but my Z790i Strix read it proper even with an initial launch BIOS (which I updated) and matched the seller's Z790 D4 board. Your Z790 chipset is the proper rating whatever it spit back.

 

2 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

He has disappeared. I hope his family is on a Christmas/New Year vacation or something. I have texted him several times over the past 5 or 6 days and got no response. I hope nothing is wrong and he is just tied up with family stuff.

 

 

@tps3443 is alive and well over on the OCN forums. 🙂

 

Speaking of OCN forums, look at this monster 14900k:

 

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23 hours ago, Papusan said:

Congrats bro Fox. From what I have seen it works ok. But can't compare it with 0070/0071 many others have had sucksess with. I never flashed those versions. Remember the 0070 and forwards need newest IMEI. And I think the bios have it baked in. Maybe waith with the newest. I think its 0801 from Asus support page come with new security fixes https://rog.asus.com/motherboards/rog-maximus/rog-maximus-z790-apex-encore/helpdesk_bios/

 

Ps. The vram nvidia should have used for 4090's.

 

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4080 SUPER Gets World's Fastest GDDR6X Memory Solution Clocking In At 23 Gbps Pin Speeds, Reveals RTX 40 SUPER Specs Leak

 

We have also come to know that there were indeed plans for a GeForce RTX 4090 SUPER though those were dropped due to the recent sanctions which limit the release of GPUs hitting over 4800 TOPs in China and other regions. Currently, there are no plans to do a RTX 4090 SUPER or Ti GPU but that might change if restrictions soften up in the coming year (which seems unlikely at the moment).

 

thats aight, im sure we all have our 4090s set to 24gbps+ anyways 😄 

 

22 hours ago, Papusan said:

From every new patch note.... "Improved system performance". I can't grasp why etc Safedisk didn't want to explain what's improved in every new bios versions they throw out. So completely avoiding the topic. Oh'well, it's Asus and they don't want to tell more than needed (same with other OEMs). Maybe Intel also have something to say if Asus go own ways. Only those working closely with this brand (the elite and their friends) will have all this info. 

 

 

I'm not sure you'll get the WD_Black so much cheaper.... 

 

Samsung 990 Pro SSD

 

yah already happening, i.e. the 870 evo 4TB went almost double from approx. 170€ low to now 290€,fast closing in on 300...glad im all set for storage for now, wont need an upgrade for another 2-3 yrs id wager...

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1 hour ago, electrosoft said:

What did the Z790 Apex Encore read for the SP? Sometimes older Asus chipsets aren't always accurate with newer Intel CPUs on the same socket. I know my Z690 D4 read my 13900ks all over the place but my Z790i Strix read it proper even with an initial launch BIOS (which I updated) and matched the seller's Z790 D4 board. Your Z790 chipset is the proper rating whatever it spit back.

In my case it has remained the same on Z690 Apex, first Z790 Apex and the Apex Encore. The MC SP varies a few points depending on what time of day it is. I have had the SP rating randomly go bonkers a few times in the past to an insanely high or low number and had to re-flash the BIOS to correct it. @tps3443has experienced the same issue. Sometimes even reflashing doesn't fix it unless you flash down a version then back up.

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This is my first 13900KS. The second is the same except for a MUCH higher E-core SP rating.

 

For some reason AIDA64 does not "see" the memory temperature sensors on the Encore. They are missing in the list of sensors.

1 hour ago, electrosoft said:

and well over on the OCN forums. 🙂

How strange. He and I text all of the time, sometime for hours, and he just went dark. I hope I did not say something that offended him. We usually talk computer stuff, so probably not.

1 hour ago, electrosoft said:

Speaking of OCN forums, look at this monster 14900k

Maybe I can snag a good bin 14900K for a not-stupid price when everyone else is chasing the next upgrade and need cash to help fund it. That's the only reason I purchased this to replace the Z690 Dark. Now I am struggling with the idea of selling it. I don't want to, but I know it is going to just sit on the shelf collecting dust. I love that motherboard and the BIOS, but there is no more support for the firmware, so it will never be able to run a 14900K. 🥹 I don't think I will ever stop being sad. I wouldn't be so bad if ASUS didn't suck as much as they do.


This second G.SKILL 8000 kit seems every bit as good as the first one in the other Apex. It worked great in the Z690 Dark as well. It is a shame so many of the DDR5 kits being sold are garbage.

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1 hour ago, Papusan said:

 

The stupids at Asus engineering team thought it was much better with an 8-pin instead for the 6-pin power connector for the board. Hence they removed 2 SATA ports to be able to have enough space on the board to provide more power for USB-C Storage. They mean desktops should have same features as Jokebooks "on the go". And they offered same stupididity when they removed the Gen_5 PCIe add in board for the new useless M.2 Gen 5 slot right below the CPU. Yup, they mean OC/gamer boards should only use 8-PCIe lines for the GPU.

 

I have no need for the M.2_1 slot. Useless. Give back the Add in board if I want to steal PCIe lines from the GPU.

 

* M.2_1 shares bandwidth with PCIEX16(G5)_2 and PCIEX16(G5)_1. When M.2_1 is occupied with SSD device, PCIEX16(G5)_2 will be disabled and PCIEX16(G5)_1 will run x8 only.

 

** USB Type-C® power delivery output: 5/9/15/20V max. 3A, PPS:3.3–21V max. 3A

There is absolutely no doubt in my mind about their stupidity, or their lack of integrity. You don't even have to look for examples of it. The examples call attention to themselves. They do a few things well sometimes. They'll never be good enough for me to like their brand.

 

I agree about the Gen5 M.2 slot. Whoever thought that was a good idea needs to be pushing a shopping cart full of garbage and eating out of dumpsters on the bad side of town.

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double papusans therefore im 2x as good at benching. lol

 

in reality im always amazed how far you push it bro, you and mr. fox are insanely gifted in your understanding of computers and how to tweak and modify them. I wish I was around 10k in timespy cant seem to top 9.6k no matter what I do. I honestly think its my memory speed holding me back..

 

160/300 close to the max 166/320 with cpu at 4.2ghz

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2 hours ago, jaybee83 said:

 

thats aight, im sure we all have our 4090s set to 24gbps+ anyways 😄 

 

 

yah already happening, i.e. the 870 evo 4TB went almost double from approx. 170€ low to now 290€,fast closing in on 300...glad im all set for storage for now, wont need an upgrade for another 2-3 yrs id wager...

 

Ditto on both fronts. I also have a few back up M.2's and 2.5s for when I will need them. 🙂

 

That memory bus just kills it for the 4080....

 

 

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lol @Papusan thats funny. now give me the gold. or else, I take your cookies and crocs. lol

 

man you must be close to number 1 overclocker in the world by now? what place are you?

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On 12/29/2023 at 5:18 PM, Etern4l said:

 

Congrats! What an insane SSD. And the reliability? 27 PBW! 

 

https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/sku/147526/intel-optane-ssd-905p-series-1-5tb-2-5in-pcie-x4-3d-xpoint/specifications.html

 

It's bizarre and shameful that Intel discontinued this gem. What's your real-life usage experience so far? BTW how much RAM does the system have?

 

My real life usage experience so far is that the Optane SSD has done the following for me over a standard SSD:

  • Much faster hibernation
  • Much faster wake from hibernation
  • Much faster loading times in open world games (Borderlands 3 loads 3X faster off the Optane 905P vs my Samsung 970 Evo Plus)
  • Faster copying of large batches of small files
  • Faster load times for Unity projects
  • Faster webpage loading times
  • Faster code compilation
  • Faster game builds
  • Slightly faster boot times
  • Slightly more responsive OS

Optane SSDs greatly benefit games that do a lot of asset streaming because of the mad fast random read speeds. Now that's not the reason I got it, but I might as well put some games on my Optane SSD since I use my computers for both work and play. My workflow has also had some of it's bottlenecks alleviated so I can now spend more time programming rather than waiting. I do use 2 computers while working, but that incurs it's own latency penalty when I need to sync the code I wrote between both computers I use.

 

In short, Optane is definitely worth it for a work computer or if you play a lot of open world games. I strongly recommend an Optane SSD to anyone who does software development like me, works with databases, or mainly plays open world games.

 

I never want to go back to a standard SSD for work. It looks like it will be quite a long while before Optane SSDs will be beat in random reads, and these things are built to last! They can last a lifetime!

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1 hour ago, ryan said:

of course im number 1. no doubt that im tops with team weggs. you have alot to learn grasshopper

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LOOL. I'm not even close to match you my friend🙂 https://hwbot.org/user/papusan/

 

 

@Mr. Fox  It seems CSM support is bugged in 0080. Not sure whats up. It randomly being disabled.  

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2 hours ago, Clamibot said:

 

My real life usage experience so far is that the Optane SSD has done the following for me over a standard SSD:

  • Much faster hibernation
  • Much faster wake from hibernation
  • Much faster loading times in open world games (Borderlands 3 loads 3X faster off the Optane 905P vs my Samsung 970 Evo Plus)
  • Faster copying of large batches of small files
  • Faster load times for Unity projects
  • Faster webpage loading times
  • Faster code compilation
  • Faster game builds
  • Slightly faster boot times
  • Slightly more responsive OS

Optane SSDs greatly benefit games that do a lot of asset streaming because of the mad fast random read speeds. Now that's not the reason I got it, but I might as well put some games on my Optane SSD since I use my computers for both work and play. My workflow has also had some of it's bottlenecks alleviated so I can now spend more time programming rather than waiting. I do use 2 computers while working, but that incurs it's own latency penalty when I need to sync the code I wrote between both computers I use.

 

In short, Optane is definitely worth it for a work computer or if you play a lot of open world games. I strongly recommend an Optane SSD to anyone who does software development like me, works with databases, or mainly plays open world games.

 

I never want to go back to a standard SSD for work. It looks like it will be quite a long while before Optane SSDs will be beat in random reads, and these things are built to last! They can last a lifetime!


Thanks for sharing, enjoy bro. I am not sure why this flew under my radar. Sadly it’s a discontinued product, so one can mostly hope it gets resurrected in some form.

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On 12/31/2023 at 1:12 AM, Papusan said:

 

@Mr. Fox  It seems CSM support is bugged in 0080. Not sure whats up. It randomly being disabled.  

The menus are different and the F-key boot options at POST are also different on the Encore versus the original Apex. Not sure what is up with that. If you are wanting CSM for Windows 7, I will send you a link a utility that will allow you to run in pure UEFI with Adjustable Bar working. I installed Windows 7 using it no problem. Now I just need to buy an older GPU that has driver support. (I mentioned this in reply to Suzuki in the Apex thread at HWBOT. Worked perfectly.)

 

Edit: check your email. I just sent it.

 

The Gestapo is trying very hard to cram the new filth up our butts instead of letting us make our own decisions. ASUS is drinking their urine-flavored Kool-Aid.


I was able to partially mitigate the loss of SATA ports by installing a second PCIe 4x dual NVMe in the slot above the A770. It did not decrease the 16x slot to 8x. So, I have a dual NVMe PCIe 4x card in both 4x slots now. So, now I am only short two 1TB SSDs from where I was before and I have a place to install Linux without having to sacrifice any storage capacity.

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I am having a hard time with the idea of turning loose of the Z690 Dark K|NGP|N. It's just too good to let go. I should sell it. That would be the most intelligent thing to do, but sometimes what I want gets in the way of what makes sense. I was thinking of selling the Praxis Wetbench also.

 

Maybe I will keep both, leave it in my closet and break it out when I need a test bench. I have a spare 13900K, my generic A-die, lots of spare NVMe and SATA SSDs, a spare EK 360 AIO that is new (used only for a review) and a 1200W PSU so I could have a complete third setup if I grab a used GPU for cheap. Yeah... I need that like a need a hole in the head. I could use it for old GPU benching like you do. Somebody needs to stop me, LOL.

 

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3 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

So, now I am only short two 1TB SSDs from where I was before and I have a place to install Linux without having to sacrifice any storage capacity.

So easy. Now to install my preferred desktop environment.

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On 12/29/2023 at 10:39 AM, electrosoft said:

Did you order two of them? According to the review, the listing is slightly misleading as you actually will only receive one heatsink in total with each side representing one of the pieces (hence, 2 pieces).

 

They do look very much like the Byski ram jackets on the DDR4 I picked up from you a few years ago (which are still powering the Mrs. rig at 1:1 4133 on that 12900k).

 

On 12/29/2023 at 12:43 PM, Mr. Fox said:

Oh no. I did not. Thank you. I ordered a second kit so now it will be Sunday instead of tomorrow.

He was right. One per package. Not unusual for these. I have needed to purchase them individually from Bykski in the past. The issue is misleading photographs and product description of "2 pieces" not the cost per module. Anyhoo... I got them installed and the RAM on water. With air cooling the RAM overclocked to 8200 was hitting 65°C and erring out on TM5. Temps reduced about 24°C and zero errors now. Things are as they should be again.

 

A couple of observations. This G.SKILL kit was white. The white color is low quality paint. The lacquer thinner used to dissolve the adhesives started stripping the paint. This has never happened with black so they must have used a very poor quality paint. Acrylic and Polyurethane enamels are not harmed by lacquer thinner. Second observation... appears they are binning these modules. There are handwritten markings on an IC on each module similar to what I saw on the 3090 KPE, which EVGA confirmed are from binning.

 

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14 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

The menus are different and the F-key boot options at POST are also different on the Encore versus the original Apex. Not sure what is up with that. If you are wanting CSM for Windows 7, I will send you a link a utility that will allow you to run in pure UEFI with Adjustable Bar working. I installed Windows 7 using it no problem. Now I just need to buy an older GPU that has driver support. (I mentioned this in replyto Suzuki in the Apex thread at HWBOT. Worked perfectly.)

 

Edit: check your email. I just sent it.

 

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Thank you very much my friend 🙂

 

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I really hope 2024 will be a much better year than the year we now go out from. 2023 was a Annus horribilis for us here home so I really hope 2024 will be our annus mirabilis. Happy New Year!! 🙂

 

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5 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

A couple of observations. This G.SKILL kit was white. The white color is low quality paint. The lacquer thinner used to dissolve the adhesives started stripping the paint. This has never happened with black so they must have used a very poor quality paint. Acrylic and Polyurethane enamels are not harmed by lacquer thinner. Second observation... appears they are binning these modules. There are handwritten markings on an IC on each module similar to what I saw on the 3090 KPE, which EVGA confirmed are from binning.

 

Yet another reason to avoid fancy and modern White color themed hardware. If they can't make it right... Maybe stop make/design products the "Dell Alienware" way. 

 

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You took it too far, or not far enough. I think crocs are great but why send the pic on tiktok of your dobie wearing them.

 

I guess at the end of the day he/she can run faster in crocs

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May our enemies, foreign and domestic, be scattered as dust in the wind. May those who have sought to destroy us, including the wicked ones working from within our borders, meet with death, destruction and pestilence as their evils deeds come undone.

 

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On 12/30/2023 at 11:16 PM, Papusan said:

 

The stupids at Asus engineering team thought it was much better with an 8-pin instead for the 6-pin power connector for the board. And they offered same stupididity when they removed the Gen_5 PCIe add in board for the new useless M.2 Gen 5 slot right below the CPU. 

 

I have no need for the M.2_1 slot. Useless. Give back the Add in board if I want to steal PCIe lines from the GPU.

 

* M.2_1 shares bandwidth with PCIEX16(G5)_2 and PCIEX16(G5)_1. When M.2_1 is occupied with SSD device, PCIEX16(G5)_2 will be disabled and PCIEX16(G5)_1 will run x8 only.

 

** USB Type-C® power delivery output: 5/9/15/20V max. 3A, PPS:3.3–21V max. 3A

 

16 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

The Gestapo is trying very hard to cram the new filth up our butts instead of letting us make our own decisions. ASUS is drinking their urine-flavored Kool-Aid.

 

Yup, we are forced on filthy because engineers think Unisex system is good. And the same happens also with modern processors nowadys. Because Jokebooks is their main cash-grab.   

 

You know M.2 SSDs suck, right?

 

M.2's elevation

For some bono-headed reason, somebody decided that attaching an SSD directly to the motherboard was the best path forward. M.2 rapidly became the most widely adopted connection and to this day, almost every performance-based consumer SSD is a 2280 form factor NVMe M.2 drive.

 

 

 

The whole world is filled with STUPIDITY

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