Papusan Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 4 hours ago, Mr. Fox said: Well, this deal was too good to pass up. Will have it tomorrow. Price is right and worth the extra IMHO compared to 4080S. This is the same PCB as the Aorus Master GPU, just a different cooler, not the absurdly gigantic Master-size... but Byksi is going to solve that for me. The $200 price drop covers the cost of the $204 Bykski block. https://www.newegg.com/gigabyte-geforce-rtx-4090-gv-n4090gaming-oc-24gd/p/N82E16814932550? Thats a very good deal. Congrats bro Fox. But the price will still be $2000 with the block😀 And remember Gigabyte love make several revisions of their HW. One thing I don't like with them. You never know what you'll get when you order..... https://www.gigabyte.com/Graphics-Card/GV-N4090GAMING-OC-24GD-rev-10-11#kf And what will the stupids at Redmond HQ do with this? Make a new security patch that will once again break their OS? BitLocker's reliance on a TPM for security is its own downfall in this specific exploit. Bitlocker is one of the most easily accessible encryption solutions available today, being a built-in feature of Windows 10 Pro and Windows 11 Pro that's designed to secure your data from prying eyes. However, YouTuber stacksmashing demonstrated a colossal security flaw with Bitlocker that allowed him to bypass Windows Bitlocker in less than a minute with a cheap sub-$10 Raspberry Pi Pico, thus gaining access to the encryption keys that can unlock protected data. His exploit only took 43 seconds to steal the master key. Second stupidity for the day.... Whatever Microsoft try to do.... They will never ever be able to offer a secure OS. So the forced HW requirement for Win 11 is just stupid. Mini PC maker ships systems with factory-installed spyware Eclectic Sal wrote, "Arrived with malware installed - Backdoor Win32/Bladabindi, a backdoor trojan which is a remote access tool known for its data-stealing capabilities. It was hardcoded into the Windows recovery, so it would not be wiped on reset. Windows was also a spoofed version, not a valid product key." It's not the first time AceMagic has encountered malware problems. The vendor previously acknowledged an issue where the Bing search engine was included in the pre-installation process for the AD08, S1, and AK1 Plus RGB. If you own a mini-PC from AceMagic or one of the other sub-brands and are still using the original Windows installation, it wouldn't hurt to run a virus scan to see if you're malware-free. With all the memory degradation due Hwbots silly forced ECC Enabled requirement I have now limited the vram clocks right below 1525MHz. https://hwbot.org/submission/5475445_papusan_3dmark___fire_strike_extreme_geforce_rtx_4090_49578_marks?recalculate=true Almost finished the work for my lovely wife. I only lack mount up the electrical cable properly. If this isn't enough lights in Papusan's plaza then I don't know what more I can do.... Yup, the lights isn't fully turned on. Even th dog is black @electrosoft😀 This is outside in the dreaded black dark in the snowy North. The outside looks almost bright as the day, LOOL 3 hours ago, jaybee83 said: sure, from a private enthusiast perspective, totally get it. i mean, i also got the 4090 on launch day, after all 😄 but most of the demand is from AI companies. in a business environment its more about price/perf. than going balls to the wall. i cant imagine that those mere 10% difference WITH SAME VRAM would make up for a multifold in initial buying price... I mean the 4090 Defective have limited OC headroom. And forget X-flash with vanilla 4090 firmware. Yup, the 4090D is real Chinaware😃 1 2 1 "The Killer" ASUS ROG Z790 Apex Encore | 14900KS | 4090 HOF + 20 other graphics cards | 32GB DDR5 | Be Quiet! Dark Power Pro 12 - 1500 Watt | Second PSU - Cooler Master V750 SFX Gold 750W (For total of 2250W Power) | Corsair Obsidian 1000D | Custom Cooling | Asus ROG Strix XG27AQ 27" Monitors | Papusan @ HWBOT | Team PremaMod @ HWBOT | Papusan @ YouTube Channel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaybee83 Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 3 hours ago, Papusan said: I mean the 4090 Defective have limited OC headroom. And forget X-flash with vanilla 4090 firmware. Yup, the 4090D is real Chinaware😃 hahaha i doubt that companies would care about crossflashing or overclocking though? 😄 1 Mine: Hyperion "Titan God of Heat, Heavenly Light, Power" (2022-24) AMD Ryzen 9 7950X (TG High Perf. IHS) / Asus ROG Crosshair X670E Extreme / MSI Geforce RTX 4090 Suprim X / Teamgroup T-Force Delta RGB DDR5-8200 2x24 GB / Seagate Firecuda 530 4 TB / 5x Samsung 860 Evo 4 TB / Arctic Liquid Freezer II 420 (Push/Pull 6x Noctua NF-A14 IndustrialPPC-3000 intake) / Seasonic TX-1600 W Titanium / Phanteks Enthoo Pro 2 TG (3x Arctic P12 A-RGB intake / 4x Arctic P14 A-RGB exhaust / 1x Arctic P14 A-RGB RAM cooling) / Samsung Odyssey Neo G8 32" 4K 240 Hz / Ducky One 3 Daybreak Fullsize Cherry MX Brown / Corsair M65 Ultra RGB / PDP Afterglow Wave Black / Beyerdynamic DT 770 Pro X Limited Edition My Lady's: Clevo NH55JNNQ "Alfred" (2022-24) Sharp LQ156M1JW03 FHD matte 15.6" IGZO 8 bit @248 Hz / Intel Core i5 12600 / Nvidia Geforce RTX 3070 Ti / Mushkin Redline DDR4-3200 2x32 GB / Samsung 970 Pro 1 TB / Samsung 870 QVO 8 TB / Intel AX201 WIFI 6+BT 5.2 / Win 11 Pro Phoenix Lite OS / 230 W PSU powered by Prema Mod! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Fox Posted February 7 Author Share Posted February 7 5 hours ago, Papusan said: Thats a very good deal. Congrats bro Fox. But the price will still be $2000 with the block😀 And remember Gigabyte love make several revisions of their HW. One thing I don't like with them. You never know what you'll get when you order..... https://www.gigabyte.com/Graphics-Card/GV-N4090GAMING-OC-24GD-rev-10-11#kf This is not my favorite brand, but this is their chance to change my mind. The Aorus 2080 Ti Xtreme Waterforce has shown me they can do things right if they want to. The revision numbers are not fundamentally different from what we've seen with other brands including the Z690 Apex and Z790 Apex both having midlife revisions. From what I understand the difference on this GPU is the newer cooler has an added heat pipe. I will use it a week or two, maybe longer, with the stock air cooler. I had to redo the placement of a couple of things to make room for how long it is. The 3.5-inch HDD caddy and water meter were in the line of fire. The 12VHPWR cable is installed and sitting on the floor, waiting for the 4090's arrival. 5 hours ago, electrosoft said: Congrats! but, er, don't you already have a Suprim X 4090 blocked? Yes. The Apex brothers. Battlemage will be an A770 upgrade for their baby sister. Isn't it interesting that you couldn't buy a 4090 if your life depended on it until after 4080S showed up with inadequate stock and instantly sold out everywhere. Now there are several models available at NewEgg, B&H Photo and Amazon with lowered prices. It should be interesting to see how this shenanigan plays into Skynet's plan for the human race. 1 2 1 Wraith // Z790 Apex | 14900KS | 4090 Suprim X+Byksi Block | 48GB DDR5-8600 | Toughpower GF3 1650W | MO-RA3 360 | Hailea HC-500A || O11D XL EVO Banshee // X870E Carbon | 9950X | 4090 Gaming OC+Alphacool Block | 32GB DDR5-8200 | RM1200x SHIFT | XT45 1080 Nova || Antec C8 Spectre // Z790i Edge | 13900KS | 3090 Ti FTW3 | 32GB DDR5-8200 | RM1000e | EK Nucleus CR360 Direct Die || Prime A21 Half-Breed // Dell Precision 7720 | BGA CPU Filth+MXM Quadro P5000 | 4K Display | Sub-$500 Grade A Refurb | Nothing to Write Home About Mr. Fox YouTube Channel | Mr. Fox @ HWBOT The average response time for a 911 call is 10 minutes. The response time of a .357 is 1400 feet per second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tps3443 Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 8 hours ago, Mr. Fox said: Well, this deal was too good to pass up. Will have it tomorrow. Price is right and worth the extra IMHO compared to 4080S. This is the same PCB as the Aorus Master GPU, just a different cooler, not the absurdly gigantic Master-size... but Byksi is going to solve that for me. The $200 price drop covers the cost of the $204 Bykski block. https://www.newegg.com/gigabyte-geforce-rtx-4090-gv-n4090gaming-oc-24gd/p/N82E16814932550? You know, I actually really like the Gaming OC model and the way it looks in person. I had a 2080Ti Gaming OC and I thought it was awesome. It was broken, and the person sold my a dud card that was artifacting 🤣lol. But that wasn’t the cards fault that they scammed me. But, something about the way it looked. I thought about exchanging for the gaming OC 4080S but I don’t see any blocks available for those in 4080S variant. So, I’m either gonna exchange for the Gigabyte Master, Suprim X, or the Gigabyte Aero white model. Why EKWB offers a waterblock for the rest and even the Aero model, and not the OG “Gaming OC” is just beyond me. But that’s a nice card for $1,799. 2 1 13900KF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
electrosoft Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 5 hours ago, Mr. Fox said: Yes. The Apex brothers. Battlemage will be an A770 upgrade for their baby sister. Isn't it interesting that you couldn't buy a 4090 if your life depended on it until after 4080S showed up with inadequate stock and instantly sold out everywhere. Now there are several models available at NewEgg, B&H Photo and Amazon with lowered prices. It should be interesting to see how this shenanigan plays into Skynet's plan for the human race. Ah, ok, well then double congrats. 🙂 Before with the 4090 being $1600 and the 4080 being $1200, if you were going to spend $1200, you might as well spend $1600 for the better card at that point with the 4080 being such a bad deal compared to the 3080 and xx80 pricing. Now? With the 4090 basically starting at $1800 and the 4080 Super at $1000, the 4080 Super suddenly makes "sense" (as much as a xx80 class card jumping from $700 to $1200 then back down to $1000 makes sense) and will get you very nice performance at the $1000 price point, is the better buy over the 7900xtx and much cheaper than a 4090. Realistically, calculating inflation and a modest profit bump along with increased costs, the 4080 should have been $899.99 at most along with the 4080 Super. $1200 was ridiculous. $1000 is simply much less ridiculous but still ridiculous. 3 2 Electrosoft Prime: SP109 14900KS | Asrock Z790i Lightning | MSI Suprim X Liquid 4090 | AC LF II 420 | TG 2x16GB 8200 | Samsung 990 Pro 2TB | EVGA 1600w P2 | Phanteks Ethroo Pro | Alienware AW3225QF 32" OLED Heath: i9-12900k | EVGA CLC 280 | Asus Strix Z690 D4 | Asus Strix 3080 | 32GB DDR4 2x16GB B-Die 4000 | WD Black SN850 512GB | EVGA DG-77 | Samsung G7 32" 144hz 32" My for sale items on eBay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Fox Posted February 7 Author Share Posted February 7 8 hours ago, tps3443 said: You know, I actually really like the Gaming OC model and the way it looks in person. I had a 2080Ti Gaming OC and I thought it was awesome. It was broken, and the person sold my a dud card that was artifacting 🤣lol. But that wasn’t the cards fault that they scammed me. But, something about the way it looked. I thought about exchanging for the gaming OC 4080S but I don’t see any blocks available for those in 4080S variant. So, I’m either gonna exchange for the Gigabyte Master, Suprim X, or the Gigabyte Aero white model. Why EKWB offers a waterblock for the rest and even the Aero model, and not the OG “Gaming OC” is just beyond me. But that’s a nice card for $1,799. Why not send that 2080 Ti to Northwest Repair? It probably has something simple wrong with it. I sent him the 2080 Ti FTW3 I used to have for repair due to artifacting and it had one bad memory chip. His prices are reasonable. Go to the info tab on his YouTube channel for the repair request info. I do not know if the same applies to the 4080S, but the 4090 OC Gaming and 4090 Master are the same PCB and essentially the same base GPU. The Master has a larger cooler and an LCD display feature. Alphacool and Bykski use the same block for both of them. The Windforce models are different PCB, take a different block and are a lower tier. Personally, I would not pay double for an EK GPU block. I do like how they look, but they seem to be very overpriced compared to the other options. 1 1 Wraith // Z790 Apex | 14900KS | 4090 Suprim X+Byksi Block | 48GB DDR5-8600 | Toughpower GF3 1650W | MO-RA3 360 | Hailea HC-500A || O11D XL EVO Banshee // X870E Carbon | 9950X | 4090 Gaming OC+Alphacool Block | 32GB DDR5-8200 | RM1200x SHIFT | XT45 1080 Nova || Antec C8 Spectre // Z790i Edge | 13900KS | 3090 Ti FTW3 | 32GB DDR5-8200 | RM1000e | EK Nucleus CR360 Direct Die || Prime A21 Half-Breed // Dell Precision 7720 | BGA CPU Filth+MXM Quadro P5000 | 4K Display | Sub-$500 Grade A Refurb | Nothing to Write Home About Mr. Fox YouTube Channel | Mr. Fox @ HWBOT The average response time for a 911 call is 10 minutes. The response time of a .357 is 1400 feet per second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tps3443 Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 17 minutes ago, Mr. Fox said: Why not send that 2080 Ti to Northwest Repair? It probably has something simple wrong with it. I send him the 2080 Ti FTW3 for repair due to artifacting and it had one bad memory chip. His prices are reasonable. Go to the info tab on his YouTube channel for the repair request info. The 4090 OC Gaming and 4090 Master are the same PCB and essentially the same base GPU. Alphacool and Bykski use the same block for both of them. The Windforce models are different PCB, take a different block and are a lower tier. Personally, I would not pay double for an EK GPU block. I do like how they look, but they seem to be very overpriced compared to the other options. That was a while back, even before Northwest repair was a thing on Youtube. It was in 2018 era when I had that one. The 4080 Super PCB’s are a little different though. The Aorus master and Gaming OC look to be totally different designs. The gaming OC 4080 Super uses a full length PCB. While the 4080 Super Aorus Master uses a wider shorter PCB. So unfortunately the gaming OC is not an option. I wish they’d keep a standard here and make things simple. But they have got totally different designs and PCB’s and even different mounting holes on almost every single 4080 Super AIB under the sun. The 4080 Super Aorus master does look similar to the 4090 Gaming OC though. But the 4080 Super Gaming OC is totally different. Not sure why they did this. They should make xx80/90 series fairly similar so we can share blocks. But I’m exchanging mine for sure 100%. 4080 Super Aorus Master, or 4080 Super Suprim X are the top picks. 😁 2 13900KF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raiderman Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 2 hours ago, electrosoft said: Ah, ok, well then double congrats. 🙂 Before with the 4090 being $1600 and the 4080 being $1200, if you were going to spend $1200, you might as well spend $1600 for the better card at that point with the 4080 being such a bad deal compared to the 3080 and xx80 pricing. Now? With the 4090 basically starting at $1800 and the 4080 Super at $1000, the 4080 Super suddenly makes "sense" (as much as a xx80 class card jumping from $700 to $1200 then back down to $1000 makes sense) and will get you very nice performance at the $1000 price point, is the better buy over the 7900xtx and much cheaper than a 4090. Realistically, calculating inflation and a modest profit bump along with increased costs, the 4080 should have been $899.99 at most along with the 4080 Super. $1200 was ridiculous. $1000 is simply much less ridiculous but still ridiculous. I am sorry, but it's just nuts talking about $1700 graphics cards being a good deal. Maybe it's just me, but I can't seem to muster the ca hones to pull a trigger on a card for that amount of mullah. I know full well the addiction, though. 😄 1 3 Lian Li Lancool III | Ryzen 9 9950X | 48gb G-skill Trident Z5 DDR5 8000mhz | MSI Mpg X670E Carbon | AsRock Taichi Radeon 7900xtx Bykski Block |Raijintek Scylla Pro 360 custom loop| Crucial T700 1tb WD Black's SN770 500gb/1tb NVME | Toshiba 8Tb 7200rpm Data | EVGA 1000w SuperNova |32" Agon 1440p 165hz Curved Screen | Windows 10 LoT 21h2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Fox Posted February 7 Author Share Posted February 7 2 hours ago, Raiderman said: I am sorry, but it's just nuts talking about $1700 graphics cards being a good deal. Maybe it's just me, but I can't seem to muster the ca hones to pull a trigger on a card for that amount of mullah. I know full well the addiction, though. 😄 When it comes to a flagship/halo product, they are not a "good deal" and they are absolutely overpriced and a horrible value. It's like picking your poison. You choose between lowering the bar and settling for something inferior, or bending over and taking a shot to the wallet. This applies to all flagship components. Mobos, processors, PSUs... the most desirable models offer the poorest value. The pricing doesn't scale well with features and performance. 4 1 Wraith // Z790 Apex | 14900KS | 4090 Suprim X+Byksi Block | 48GB DDR5-8600 | Toughpower GF3 1650W | MO-RA3 360 | Hailea HC-500A || O11D XL EVO Banshee // X870E Carbon | 9950X | 4090 Gaming OC+Alphacool Block | 32GB DDR5-8200 | RM1200x SHIFT | XT45 1080 Nova || Antec C8 Spectre // Z790i Edge | 13900KS | 3090 Ti FTW3 | 32GB DDR5-8200 | RM1000e | EK Nucleus CR360 Direct Die || Prime A21 Half-Breed // Dell Precision 7720 | BGA CPU Filth+MXM Quadro P5000 | 4K Display | Sub-$500 Grade A Refurb | Nothing to Write Home About Mr. Fox YouTube Channel | Mr. Fox @ HWBOT The average response time for a 911 call is 10 minutes. The response time of a .357 is 1400 feet per second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
electrosoft Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 42 minutes ago, Raiderman said: I am sorry, but it's just nuts talking about $1700 graphics cards being a good deal. Maybe it's just me, but I can't seem to muster the ca hones to pull a trigger on a card for that amount of mullah. I know full well the addiction, though. 😄 I'm sure someone out there thought you dropping ~$1300 on a blocked 7900XTX was nutso too thinking a 7800xt should have been enough. 🤣 46 minutes ago, Mr. Fox said: When it comes to a flagship/halo product, they are not a "good deal" and they are absolutely overpriced and a horrible value. It's like picking your poison. You choose between lowering and bar and settling for something inferior, or bending over and taking a shot to the wallet. This applies to all flagship components. Mobos, processors, PSUs... the most desirable models offer the poorest value. The pricing doesn't scale well with features and performance. An unfortunate truth but what remains consistent is choice. You're not forced to buy top tier unless you want to and hopefully you're not pushing yourself into debt over what is a luxury item. We all have our luxury thing(s) we choose to indulge. Some enjoy travel. Some are foodies. Some like fine wines and spirits Some like fancy cars. Some like fancy houses. Some spend crazy money on Golf or sports. Some like fancy clothes and shoes (apparently some spend 10's or evern 100's of thousands on sneakers). And on and on.... ....then there are those of us who like computer hardware. 🤪 3 2 1 Electrosoft Prime: SP109 14900KS | Asrock Z790i Lightning | MSI Suprim X Liquid 4090 | AC LF II 420 | TG 2x16GB 8200 | Samsung 990 Pro 2TB | EVGA 1600w P2 | Phanteks Ethroo Pro | Alienware AW3225QF 32" OLED Heath: i9-12900k | EVGA CLC 280 | Asus Strix Z690 D4 | Asus Strix 3080 | 32GB DDR4 2x16GB B-Die 4000 | WD Black SN850 512GB | EVGA DG-77 | Samsung G7 32" 144hz 32" My for sale items on eBay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Fox Posted February 7 Author Share Posted February 7 45 minutes ago, electrosoft said: I'm sure someone out there thought you dropping ~$1300 on a blocked 7900XTX was nutso too thinking a 7800xt should have been enough. 🤣 An unfortunate truth but what remains consistent is choice. You're not forced to buy top tier unless you want to and hopefully you're not pushing yourself into debt over what is a luxury item. We all have our luxury thing(s) we choose to indulge. Some enjoy travel. Some are foodies. Some like fine wines and spirits Some like fancy cars. Some like fancy houses. Some spend crazy money on Golf or sports. Some like fancy clothes and shoes (apparently some spend 10's or evern 100's of thousands on sneakers). And on and on.... ....then there are those of us who like computer hardware. 🤪 And, when you compare this hobby to others that guys are normally into (antique, classic and exotic cars, street rods, motorcycles, boats, ATVs - maybe even more than one of those) it is comparatively inexpensive. You can easily spend 6 digits on some of those things if you are playing for keeps. OK, it's up and running. Once I determine it is a keeper, I will either block it or peel the plastic off and keep the air cooler. I had to remove one of my dual NVMe x4 cards because this behemoth covers the lower x4 PCIe slot. So, there's a good reason to block it even if the temps are fantastic. Because of the Encore moving the x16 slot at the top down and adding a x4 slot above the GPU I was able to keep that one dual NVMe card for now. But, lowering the x16 slot made the excellent GPU support bracket included with the GPU not work. So, the pogo stick is the only option at this time. 2 1 1 Wraith // Z790 Apex | 14900KS | 4090 Suprim X+Byksi Block | 48GB DDR5-8600 | Toughpower GF3 1650W | MO-RA3 360 | Hailea HC-500A || O11D XL EVO Banshee // X870E Carbon | 9950X | 4090 Gaming OC+Alphacool Block | 32GB DDR5-8200 | RM1200x SHIFT | XT45 1080 Nova || Antec C8 Spectre // Z790i Edge | 13900KS | 3090 Ti FTW3 | 32GB DDR5-8200 | RM1000e | EK Nucleus CR360 Direct Die || Prime A21 Half-Breed // Dell Precision 7720 | BGA CPU Filth+MXM Quadro P5000 | 4K Display | Sub-$500 Grade A Refurb | Nothing to Write Home About Mr. Fox YouTube Channel | Mr. Fox @ HWBOT The average response time for a 911 call is 10 minutes. The response time of a .357 is 1400 feet per second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raiderman Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 2 hours ago, Mr. Fox said: When it comes to a flagship/halo product, they are not a "good deal" and they are absolutely overpriced and a horrible value. It's like picking your poison. You choose between lowering and bar and settling for something inferior, or bending over and taking a shot to the wallet. This applies to all flagship components. Mobos, processors, PSUs... the most desirable models offer the poorest value. The pricing doesn't scale well with features and performance. True that! Plus, I will be spending that again on the next gen 😄 Already have my eyes on an X870 motherboard, and the next gen Ryzen, of course. 4 1 1 Lian Li Lancool III | Ryzen 9 9950X | 48gb G-skill Trident Z5 DDR5 8000mhz | MSI Mpg X670E Carbon | AsRock Taichi Radeon 7900xtx Bykski Block |Raijintek Scylla Pro 360 custom loop| Crucial T700 1tb WD Black's SN770 500gb/1tb NVME | Toshiba 8Tb 7200rpm Data | EVGA 1000w SuperNova |32" Agon 1440p 165hz Curved Screen | Windows 10 LoT 21h2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rage Set Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 10 hours ago, Mr. Fox said: This is not my favorite brand, but this is their chance to change my mind. The Aorus 2080 Ti Xtreme Waterforce has shown me they can do things right if they want to. The revision numbers are not fundamentally different from what we've seen with other brands including the Z690 Apex and Z790 Apex both having midlife revisions. From what I understand the difference on this GPU is the newer cooler has an added heat pipe. I will use it a week or two, maybe longer, with the stock air cooler. I had to redo the placement of a couple of things to make room for how long it is. The 3.5-inch HDD caddy and water meter were in the line of fire. The 12VHPWR cable is installed and sitting on the floor, waiting for the 4090's arrival. Yes. The Apex brothers. Battlemage will be an A770 upgrade for their baby sister. Isn't it interesting that you couldn't buy a 4090 if your life depended on it until after 4080S showed up with inadequate stock and instantly sold out everywhere. Now there are several models available at NewEgg, B&H Photo and Amazon with lowered prices. It should be interesting to see how this shenanigan plays into Skynet's plan for the human race. When I was going through my 2080 TI phase, I had an Aorus 2080 TI Xtreme Waterforce hybrid. While it didn't hold a candle to either of my KPX 2080 TI cards, it did outperform my Asus Strix 2080 TI (custom watercooled) with stock vBIOS. Their motherboards on the other hand, I don't think I will ever buy them again. Gigabyte's software is atrocious. Till this day, their fan tuning software either runs my fans at full speed or "Silent" which means 10% slower than full speed. The BIOS doesn't help and yes the fans are connected to system fan headers. 2 1 1 A Change Is Gonna Come Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raiderman Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 42 minutes ago, Rage Set said: When I was going through my 2080 TI phase, I had an Aorus 2080 TI Xtreme Waterforce hybrid. While it didn't hold a candle to either of my KPX 2080 TI cards, it did outperform my Asus Strix 2080 TI (custom watercooled) with stock vBIOS. Their motherboards on the other hand, I don't think I will ever buy them again. Gigabyte's software is atrocious. Till this day, their fan tuning software either runs my fans at full speed or "Silent" which means 10% slower than full speed. The BIOS doesn't help and yes the fans are connected to system fan headers. Lol @ 10% slower than full speed for silent 🤣 2 Lian Li Lancool III | Ryzen 9 9950X | 48gb G-skill Trident Z5 DDR5 8000mhz | MSI Mpg X670E Carbon | AsRock Taichi Radeon 7900xtx Bykski Block |Raijintek Scylla Pro 360 custom loop| Crucial T700 1tb WD Black's SN770 500gb/1tb NVME | Toshiba 8Tb 7200rpm Data | EVGA 1000w SuperNova |32" Agon 1440p 165hz Curved Screen | Windows 10 LoT 21h2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raiderman Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 Not hardware related, but check this out for Aeroglass lovers !! https://www.windowscentral.com/software-apps/windows-11/nostalgic-windows-7-and-vista-memories-for-windows-11 1 Lian Li Lancool III | Ryzen 9 9950X | 48gb G-skill Trident Z5 DDR5 8000mhz | MSI Mpg X670E Carbon | AsRock Taichi Radeon 7900xtx Bykski Block |Raijintek Scylla Pro 360 custom loop| Crucial T700 1tb WD Black's SN770 500gb/1tb NVME | Toshiba 8Tb 7200rpm Data | EVGA 1000w SuperNova |32" Agon 1440p 165hz Curved Screen | Windows 10 LoT 21h2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papusan Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 3 hours ago, Mr. Fox said: But, lowering the x16 slot made the excellent GPU support bracket included with the GPU not work. So, the pogo stick is the only option at this time. Hmmm. How many will break the PCB before they get a support bracket that works. Use whatever you have home. Lego bricks works just fine. Better safe than sorry. 1 1 "The Killer" ASUS ROG Z790 Apex Encore | 14900KS | 4090 HOF + 20 other graphics cards | 32GB DDR5 | Be Quiet! Dark Power Pro 12 - 1500 Watt | Second PSU - Cooler Master V750 SFX Gold 750W (For total of 2250W Power) | Corsair Obsidian 1000D | Custom Cooling | Asus ROG Strix XG27AQ 27" Monitors | Papusan @ HWBOT | Team PremaMod @ HWBOT | Papusan @ YouTube Channel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tps3443 Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 2 hours ago, Papusan said: Hmmm. How many will break the PCB before they get a support bracket that works. Use whatever you have home. Lego bricks works just fine. Better safe than sorry. Or run them like this 😃lol. I’m getting in a few more days of usage before I return this one on Monday. I’m just not fully happy with it. I like the performance of it, it looks nice, it’s built pretty good too, but what I don’t like is that it was $150 dollars extra for pretty much absolutely nothing at all lol. I don’t mind paying another $100-$200 USD over MSRP $999. But it should be pure amazing for all that. Ya know, at least the Suprim includes a mouse pad lol. I think the cooling performance is a little weaker than a 4080 Super FE too. I really want a Suprim X, but I’d take a Aorus Master. I assume everyone on here is against the 4080 Super STRIX OC. I’m going to make sure I get the one I want this go around. Should have done that from the very start. @electrosoft This 4080 Super pretty much matches my monitors refresh rate in several games. I can only do 120Hz 4K on this OLED anyways, so typically a 117fps frame cap is what I run. I did a fresh windows install tonight, and performance is VERY VERY good though. You can tell just by looking at the 99% lows. 😀 1 2 1 13900KF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papusan Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 1 hour ago, tps3443 said: Or run them like this 😃lol. I’m getting in a few more days of usage before I return this one on Monday. I’m just not fully happy with it. I like the performance of it, it looks nice, it’s built pretty good too, but what I don’t like is that it was $150 dollars extra for pretty much absolutely nothing at all lol. I don’t mind paying another $100-$200 USD over MSRP $999. But it should be pure amazing for all that. Ya know, at least the Suprim includes a mouse pad lol. I think the cooling performance is a little weaker than a 4080 Super FE too. I really want a Suprim X, but I’d take a Aorus Master. I assume everyone on here is against the 4080 Super STRIX OC. I’m going to make sure I get the one I want this go around. Should have done that from the very start. Yup. Most of the Gaming themed 4080 Super OC models is mostly out of stock. I expect the Expert model is more for the older people. Not for the gamerkids with money from mom and pa. Have you tried x-flash unverfied vbios thats up on Techpowerup? I see also this time Galax go outside the other AIB partners and provide vbios with an higher TGP limit (450W). 1 "The Killer" ASUS ROG Z790 Apex Encore | 14900KS | 4090 HOF + 20 other graphics cards | 32GB DDR5 | Be Quiet! Dark Power Pro 12 - 1500 Watt | Second PSU - Cooler Master V750 SFX Gold 750W (For total of 2250W Power) | Corsair Obsidian 1000D | Custom Cooling | Asus ROG Strix XG27AQ 27" Monitors | Papusan @ HWBOT | Team PremaMod @ HWBOT | Papusan @ YouTube Channel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaybee83 Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 7 hours ago, Raiderman said: True that! Plus, I will be spending that again on the next gen 😄 Already have my eyes on an X870 motherboard, and the next gen Ryzen, of course. haha yep, also got the monies ready for 50 series and Zen 5 😄 although no need for an upgrade to X870 mobo, apparently the major uplift will be in the USB4 requirements. lucky me i purposefully got a mobo with USB4 already on it 🙂 1 2 Mine: Hyperion "Titan God of Heat, Heavenly Light, Power" (2022-24) AMD Ryzen 9 7950X (TG High Perf. IHS) / Asus ROG Crosshair X670E Extreme / MSI Geforce RTX 4090 Suprim X / Teamgroup T-Force Delta RGB DDR5-8200 2x24 GB / Seagate Firecuda 530 4 TB / 5x Samsung 860 Evo 4 TB / Arctic Liquid Freezer II 420 (Push/Pull 6x Noctua NF-A14 IndustrialPPC-3000 intake) / Seasonic TX-1600 W Titanium / Phanteks Enthoo Pro 2 TG (3x Arctic P12 A-RGB intake / 4x Arctic P14 A-RGB exhaust / 1x Arctic P14 A-RGB RAM cooling) / Samsung Odyssey Neo G8 32" 4K 240 Hz / Ducky One 3 Daybreak Fullsize Cherry MX Brown / Corsair M65 Ultra RGB / PDP Afterglow Wave Black / Beyerdynamic DT 770 Pro X Limited Edition My Lady's: Clevo NH55JNNQ "Alfred" (2022-24) Sharp LQ156M1JW03 FHD matte 15.6" IGZO 8 bit @248 Hz / Intel Core i5 12600 / Nvidia Geforce RTX 3070 Ti / Mushkin Redline DDR4-3200 2x32 GB / Samsung 970 Pro 1 TB / Samsung 870 QVO 8 TB / Intel AX201 WIFI 6+BT 5.2 / Win 11 Pro Phoenix Lite OS / 230 W PSU powered by Prema Mod! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tps3443 Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 1 hour ago, Papusan said: Yup. Most of the Gaming themed 4080 Super OC models is mostly out of stock. I expect the Expert model is more for the older people. Not for the gamerkids with money from mom and pa. Have you tried x-flash unverfied vbios thats up on Techpowerup? I see also this time Galax go outside the other AIB partners and provide vbios with an higher TGP limit (450W). I may try another, but I can’t cool it in sustained loads like games anyways to benefit from extra power lol. Need a waterblock which none are available. I did try flashing the Strix OC 420W bios and it bricked my card. Fortunately, I dropped my original bios in the exact same folder and named it MSI.rom, so I was able to blind flash right back successfully after about 10 failed attempts guessing while not being able to see a screen. The main thing that helped was watching my motherboards debug cpu temp jump everytime I hit enter, so I knew something was happening 😀 I was even 2nd guessing my self if I had command prompt open or not. I hadn’t needed to flash anything in years so I was seriously out of practice. 2 1 2 13900KF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papusan Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 2 hours ago, tps3443 said: I may try another, but I can’t cool it in sustained loads like games anyways to benefit from extra power lol. Need a waterblock which none are available. I did try flashing the Strix OC 420W bios and it bricked my card. Fortunately, I dropped my original bios in the exact same folder and named it MSI.rom, so I was able to blind flash right back successfully after about 10 failed attempts guessing while not being able to see a screen. The main thing that helped was watching my motherboards debug cpu temp jump everytime I hit enter, so I knew something was happening 😀 I was even 2nd guessing my self if I had command prompt open or not. I hadn’t needed to flash anything in years so I was seriously out of practice. Yup a lot easier with dual vbios. But a spare old Gpu help as well if the board(Cpu doesn't support iGPU. Glad you fixed it. Here is another 4090 twin/sibling model without vbios switch. It seems nvidia have shipped a few batches of 4090 FE with bad power connectors or the users are so afraid for melting that they use too much force. Seems the tiny 12+4 pin power connectors is Nvidia's main problem. Either they go up in smoke or breake. The ultimate choice between Pest and Cholera. This small 12+4 pin GPU power connector is totally wrong designed. Either it breaks or it melts. See the whole video. Asus connectors melt while Foounders Editions connectors break, LOOL Posted by 8 hours ago RIP 4090 LOOOL. But that won't be cheap. And won't cover the whole world... Global recalls: an enhanced co-ordination 2 1 1 "The Killer" ASUS ROG Z790 Apex Encore | 14900KS | 4090 HOF + 20 other graphics cards | 32GB DDR5 | Be Quiet! Dark Power Pro 12 - 1500 Watt | Second PSU - Cooler Master V750 SFX Gold 750W (For total of 2250W Power) | Corsair Obsidian 1000D | Custom Cooling | Asus ROG Strix XG27AQ 27" Monitors | Papusan @ HWBOT | Team PremaMod @ HWBOT | Papusan @ YouTube Channel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rage Set Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 @Papusan Here's a video that basically says how great and wealthy Norway is. Very interesting watch. Goes to show how advance Norway was and still is. This video is basically, pushing me to come there. Hopefully I can share in the overclocking cheatcode you have there in the cold weather. I can also visit my old friend Jacob. 3 1 1 A Change Is Gonna Come Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Fox Posted February 8 Author Share Posted February 8 1 hour ago, Rage Set said: @Papusan Here's a video that basically says how great and wealthy Norway is. Very interesting watch. Goes to show how advance Norway was and still is. This video is basically, pushing me to come there. Hopefully I can share in the overclocking cheatcode you have there in the cold weather. I can also visit my old friend Jacob. Norway is an absolutely beautiful place if you like beautiful scenery and you can tolerate cold weather. One of the prettiest places in the world. Their government is wealthy because they rob their citizens blind. One of the most abusive tax systems in the world. Like California high on Acid and drunk at the same time, with VAT on top. Insane. As much as the US Dollar has declined under failed leadership, wasteful spending, frivolous socialist programs, and mismanaged pork barrel agendas, the exchange rate still has the dollar worth nearly ten times and the Euro around nine times the value of one Krone. The cold weather is definitely a plus for benching. The dark winters are hard on some people that have mental illness problems (and there are many) due to the lack of sunlight. In most ways the scenery and climate are the same as Northwestern Canada and Southern Alaska. You would be hard pressed to tell the difference based on weather and scenery. 2 1 Wraith // Z790 Apex | 14900KS | 4090 Suprim X+Byksi Block | 48GB DDR5-8600 | Toughpower GF3 1650W | MO-RA3 360 | Hailea HC-500A || O11D XL EVO Banshee // X870E Carbon | 9950X | 4090 Gaming OC+Alphacool Block | 32GB DDR5-8200 | RM1200x SHIFT | XT45 1080 Nova || Antec C8 Spectre // Z790i Edge | 13900KS | 3090 Ti FTW3 | 32GB DDR5-8200 | RM1000e | EK Nucleus CR360 Direct Die || Prime A21 Half-Breed // Dell Precision 7720 | BGA CPU Filth+MXM Quadro P5000 | 4K Display | Sub-$500 Grade A Refurb | Nothing to Write Home About Mr. Fox YouTube Channel | Mr. Fox @ HWBOT The average response time for a 911 call is 10 minutes. The response time of a .357 is 1400 feet per second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aldarxt Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 5 hours ago, Rage Set said: @Papusan Here's a video that basically says how great and wealthy Norway is. Very interesting watch. Goes to show how advance Norway was and still is. This video is basically, pushing me to come there. Hopefully I can share in the overclocking cheatcode you have there in the cold weather. I can also visit my old friend Jacob. Norway is really something else, their prisons are so luxurious they live better than most Americans. And that's the bottom of the barrel. Go there commit a crime and you are still in the lap of luxury. Personally I think criminals should be miserable, but in Norway everybody is Happy! 1 1 3 Clevo P870DM3-G i9-9900k-32.0GB 2667mhz-RTX3080+GTX1080 Alienware M18x R2 i7-3920xm-32GB DDR3-RTX 3000 Alienware M17x R4 i7-3940XM-16GB DDR3-RTX 3000 Alienware M17x R4 i7-3940XM 20GB DDR3-P4000 120hz 3D Precision m6700 i7-3840QM-16GB DDR3-GTX 970M Precision m4700 i7-3840QM-16GB DDR3-T2000M HP ZBook 17 G6 i7 9850H-32GB DDR4-RTX4000maxQ GOBOXX SLM G2721-i7-10875H RTX 3000-32GB ddr4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papusan Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 9 hours ago, Rage Set said: @Papusan Here's a video that basically says how great and wealthy Norway is. Very interesting watch. Goes to show how advance Norway was and still is. This video is basically, pushing me to come there. Hopefully I can share in the overclocking cheatcode you have there in the cold weather. I can also visit my old friend Jacob. Thanks for the video bro Rage. You are welcome any day come visiting Papusan's plaza. Norway is one of the hardest place to live in due the though/hard climate most of the year here up in the cold North. I wish Norway was placed a bit longer South. Around level of Germany would be nice. All too cold and rainy here. Cablemod bragged about +90.000 sold angled adapters.... They should be very happy they have liars in their support team. And they banned me from their sub forum because I was honest and told everyone that they should avoid use this 12+4 pin angled fire cracker. According to the Consumer Product Safety Commission entry, Cablemod has sold around 25,300 units of the brand's 12VHPWR angled adapters, in various models and forms, and the recall includes all of them. Cablemod recalls over 25,000 16-pin angled power adapters due to fire hazard 25K CableMod "12VHWPR" angled adapters officially recalled after causing $74K in property damages And directly from Cablemod reps on reddit.... Would you trust a salesman? Only 272 reports of the adapters becoming loose, overheating and melting into the GPU. Posted by u/CableMod_Alex 5 hours ago VOLUNTARY SAFETY RECALL of CableMod 12VHPWR Angled Adapters, V1.0 and V1.1 If your GPU is damaged because of a failed adapter, we will repair it if your damage claim is submitted to us by February 22, 2024. CableMod will no longer reimburse the purchase price of a GPU that may have been damaged by a failed angled adapter. United States CONSUMER PRODUCT SAFETY COMMISSION GPU Angled Adapters Recalled Due to Fire and Burn Hazards; Manufactured by CableMod And exactly what I said from day one...... The safest option is to always use native 12VHPWR cables as provided by power supply companies. If that’s not possible because the power supply has no such cable, users should use either NVIDIA official cable adapters as provided with every RTX 40 card or ask the power supply maker if they have such an adapter. Furthermore, users should ensure that the cables are fully inserted. 12VHPWR Angled Adapters, Source: CableMod 2/8/24, 7:53 PM 25K CableMod "12VHWPR" angled adapters officially recalled 9 hours ago, Mr. Fox said: Norway is an absolutely beautiful place if you like beautiful scenery and you can tolerate cold weather. One of the prettiest places in the world. Their government is wealthy because they rob their citizens blind. One of the most abusive tax systems in the world. Like California high on Acid and drunk at the same time, with VAT on top. Insane. As much as the US Dollar has declined under failed leadership, wasteful spending, frivolous socialist programs, and mismanaged pork barrel agendas, the exchange rate still has the dollar worth nearly ten times and the Euro around nine times the value of one Krone. The cold weather is definitely a plus for benching. The dark winters are hard on some people that have mental illness problems (and there are many) due to the lack of sunlight. In most ways the scenery and climate are the same as Northwestern Canada and Southern Alaska. You would be hard pressed to tell the difference based on weather and scenery. Spot on bro Fox. A very cold place on earth. No wonder ve are so few people here up in the cold north. I don't think many people could handle the dreaded dark and the cold.... + the rain and wind 8 of the 12 months a year. If you have not the best health anymore.... It's even harder being here up in the North..... Money can't buy happiness. 2 "The Killer" ASUS ROG Z790 Apex Encore | 14900KS | 4090 HOF + 20 other graphics cards | 32GB DDR5 | Be Quiet! Dark Power Pro 12 - 1500 Watt | Second PSU - Cooler Master V750 SFX Gold 750W (For total of 2250W Power) | Corsair Obsidian 1000D | Custom Cooling | Asus ROG Strix XG27AQ 27" Monitors | Papusan @ HWBOT | Team PremaMod @ HWBOT | Papusan @ YouTube Channel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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