*Official Benchmark Thread* - Post it here or it didn't happen :D

[jaybee83]

45 minutes ago, Raiderman said:

Got the new sensor panel all set up in the case. I think it looks pretty cool.

There are quite a few templates shared in the Aida64 forums. This was my favorite.

 

 

7 minutes ago, Mr. Fox said:

That looks very nice from what I can tell, but the image is only a 320x240 thumbnail so it is hard to see any detail. 

 

yeah man, give us those highres pics! 🙂 

[Mr. Fox]

1 hour ago, tps3443 said:

I guess I’m gonna order a waterblock now. Suprim-X 4080 Sup will be here tomorrow. The Corsair 4080 Suprim block is only $151 with an additional coupon. I don’t see any better options. 
 

I’m excited to see what a waterchilled 4080 Super will run like. It’ll probably be extremely efficient.
 

https://www.titanrig.com/corsair-hydro-x-series-xg7-rgb-4080-suprimtrio-gpu-water-block-0320co012401on.html

I am excited for you, brother. If the stock air cooler on the Suprim is as good as the one on the Gigabyte 4090 the waterblock won't change much with ambient water, but with cooled water it will make a gigantic difference that would not be possible with the air cooler. I was actually suprised to find the idle and load temperatures were almost identical using ambient air with the side panel removed from the case. There is also the benefit of the waterblock taking up about 60-75% less room than the air cooler, which is a compelling benefit all by itself.

[Raiderman]

Try this

 

 

[Mr. Fox]

1 minute ago, Raiderman said:

Try this

 

Oh yeah. Way better. That does look good. You have a very nice looking rig, Brother @Raiderman.

[electrosoft]

49 minutes ago, Raiderman said:

Got the new sensor panel all set up in the case. I think it looks pretty cool.

There are quite a few templates shared in the Aida64 forums. This was my favorite.

 

 

11 minutes ago, Mr. Fox said:

That looks very nice from what I can tell, but the image is only a 320x240 thumbnail so it is hard to see any detail. 

 

I thought the same thing. "Looks nice but did he take this pic with a circa 2000 digital camera?" 🤣

 

 

[Raiderman]

1 minute ago, Mr. Fox said:

Oh yeah. Way better. That does look good. You have a very nice looking rig, Brother @Raiderman.

Thank you bro @Mr. Fox.

Notice the slight yellow shade of the coolant? That's not what it's supposed to look like. I used the coolant from Raijintek, and I'm not sure if it has any anti fungal. I did top it off a few months ago with some distilled water, maybe that's what caused the yellowing. Anyhow, new coolant on the way 👍

[Raiderman]

4 minutes ago, electrosoft said:

 

 

I thought the same thing. "Looks nice but did he take this pic with a circa 2000 digital camera?" 🤣

 

 

Hey I still have pictures stored on my computer, that I transferred via floppy, and my Sony Mavica. 🤣

 

[Mr. Fox]

1 minute ago, Raiderman said:

Hey I still have pictures stored on my computer, that I transferred via floppy, and my Sony Mavica. 🤣

 

I used one just like that for many years in my work that required taking 8 or 10 dozen photos every day. The floppy disk went into a plastic sleeve in each file.

[Papusan]

7 hours ago, tps3443 said:

Is that kinda like an old school Suprim? Metal shroud too? 

 

Yup. And this GPU have only 2 fans and a very small PCB and with less components than what we see from newer standards. The card is still close to 850 gram.

 

And this huge GPU LID is damn expensive to repaste with Kryonaut Extreme😁 Die Size is 520 mm² but the GPU lid measure above 2000 mm². In short you need to apply close to 4 times more paste than needed. That's very expensive bro @tps3443 I wonder how much better temps have been without the lid. Probably 10-15C degrees colder.

 

 Yup. Norwegian pc shops want $105 USD for this little tiny bottle with paste +shipping.

 

And I love that MSI didn't go the cheapo Stupid route as Asus did with their overpriced flagship cards as the Strix OC.

 

 

 

6 hours ago, electrosoft said:

Yeah that MSI is slick. I'd get one of those in a modern version and @tps3443 it does kinda give Suprim vibes!

 

Hopefully better results than with the EVGA.

 

 

 

Have never seen worse graphics card than the EVGA I have so the chances is slim it can be worse😃

 

4 hours ago, tps3443 said:

I guess I’m gonna order a waterblock now. Suprim-X 4080 Sup will be here tomorrow. The Corsair 4080 Suprim block is only $151 with an additional coupon. I don’t see any better options. 
 

I’m excited to see what a waterchilled 4080 Super will run like. It’ll probably be extremely efficient.
 

https://www.titanrig.com/corsair-hydro-x-series-xg7-rgb-4080-suprimtrio-gpu-water-block-0320co012401on.html

 

Maybe wait with the order until you are sure you are happy with the card. For $1200 USD for a xx80 card ($800-850 tier card) you have to be sure you get the best of the best 🙂 

 

3 hours ago, jaybee83 said:

yeah man, give us those highres pics!  

 

Yees. I always try please the pict lover @electrosoft😁 

 

I changed my mind. I will use <NTH-H2 for the new old. A lot cheaper than the Kryonaut Extreme. I'm cheapo as Asus?

 

@electrosoftCan yoiu see something black?😁

 

Cleaned up

 

 

--Looking good bro @Raiderman

 

 

[electrosoft]

3 hours ago, Papusan said:

 

@electrosoftCan yoiu see something black?😁

 

 

What @Papusan posts above...

 

 

 

 

                                                                                                         What I see below! 🙂

 

 

🤣

[Papusan]

1 hour ago, electrosoft said:

What @Papusan posts above...

 

 

 

 

                                                                                                         What I see below! 🙂

 

 

🤣

Hmmm. You really need glasses bro electro😛 And please don’t edit my hard work, LOOL

 

https://hwbot.org/submission/5487255_papusan_3dmark03_geforce_gtx_760_(256bit)_144315_marks?recalculate=true

[Mr. Fox]

6 hours ago, Papusan said:

 

@electrosoftCan yoiu see something black?😁

I see what you did there. Mine are not crocs, but still black. Other than tubing, both of us like most things in black. Even though I live in Arizona, my skin stays very white all year, just like my PC lighting. But not as white as my socks.

 

I don't like black coffee though. Come to think of it, I just don't like coffee, period.

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So, doing a little bit of analyzing, the SP96 14900K that I purchased from @Talonis extremely close to my SP108 13900KS on both P-cores and E-cores. I am not confident that the MCSP actually has much bearing on things as it seems to be a somewhat unreliable measurement with variance. That 13900KS has an MCSP83 while the 14900K is MCSP78, so that remains to be seen. (I don't actually have it yet, just adjusting my Apex BIOS settings to match the BIOS screenshots he provided and then comparing the numbers on the AI and VF screens.)

 

Give or take about 5mV...

• 13900KS P120 = 14900K P104
• 13900KS E84 = 14900K E80

 

Tinkering the the MSI BIOS has been interesting. The "Dynamic" CPU clock feature disables Turbo Boost and EIST and locks the cores at a given clock. The CPU runs cooler and performs better with "Dynamic" enabled. I discovered that purely by accident because the settings are on different menus and seeing that they are directly related was accidental. I was trying to figure out why Turbo Boost and EIST were disabled and greyed out. When I changed the CPU clock behavior from "Fixed" to "Dynamic" those became "Enabled" (still greyed out). My temperatures went down and Cinebench R23 score went up. And, my VRM MOS and Stage temps went down.

[tps3443]

5 hours ago, Papusan said:

 

Yup. And this GPU have only 2 fans and a very small PCB and with less components than what we see from newer standards. The card is still close to 850 gram.

 

And this huge GPU LID is damn expensive to repaste with Kryonaut Extreme😁 Die Size is 520 mm² but the GPU lid measure above 2000 mm². In short you need to apply close to 4 times more paste than needed. That's very expensive bro @tps3443 I wonder how much better temps have been without the lid. Probably 10-15C degrees colder.

 

 Yup. Norwegian pc shops want $105 USD for this little tiny bottle with paste +shipping.

 

And I love that MSI didn't go the cheapo Stupid route as Asus did with their overpriced flagship cards as the Strix OC.

 

 

 

 

Have never seen worse graphics card than the EVGA I have so the chances is slim it can be worse😃

 

 

Maybe wait with the order until you are sure you are happy with the card. For $1200 USD for a xx80 card ($800-850 tier card) you have to be sure you get the best of the best 🙂 

 

 

Yees. I always try please the pict lover @electrosoft😁 

 

I changed my mind. I will use <NTH-H2 for the new old. A lot cheaper than the Kryonaut Extreme. I'm cheapo as Asus?

 

@electrosoftCan yoiu see something black?😁

 

Cleaned up

 

 

--Looking good bro @Raiderman

 

 

Ever since owning a MSI Z690 Unify-X, I have developed a thing for MSI. “Slight fanboyism” going on honestly haha, because I liked everything about that motherboard. But they do build some super nice stuff. My Suprim X will be here tomorrow. 
 

Also, that GPU looks pretty wild with a IHS on it!!! Very interesting. Even though it’s older GPU, the PCB looks very premium. 

[Mr. Fox]

13 minutes ago, tps3443 said:

Ever since owning a MSI Z690 Unify-X, I have developed a thing for MSI. “Slight fanboyism” going on honestly haha, because I liked everything about that motherboard. But they do build some super nice stuff. My Suprim X will be here tomorrow. 
 

Also, that GPU looks pretty wild with a IHS on it!!! Very interesting. Even though it’s older GPU, the PCB looks very premium. 

The Unify-X was an excellent motherboard. It's sad they never released a newer Z790 version of it. The Z690 Unify-X and Gigabyte Z690 Tachyon were their best motherboards, but finding either of them for sale is rare. Even more rare than the Z790 Apex (white). I don't understand why. They could easily sell every one they made if they made more of them. This tiny little MSI MPG Z790i Edge is better at memory overclocking than more expensive 4-DIMM motherboards more than twice its size. 

[Papusan]

22 minutes ago, Mr. Fox said:

I see what you did there. Mine are not crocs, but still black. Other than tubing, both of us like most things in black. Even though I live in Arizona, my skin stays very white all year, just like my PC lighting. But not as white as my socks.

 

I don't like black coffee though. Come to think of it, I just don't like coffee, period.

 

I as well. Not much sun here home. No need for sun cream, HaHa

 

But I drink a lot coffee. Probably +20 cups a day

 

Some improvements.

https://hwbot.org/submission/5487262_papusan_3dmark03_geforce_gtx_760_(256bit)_145773_marks?recalculate=true

 

14 minutes ago, tps3443 said:

Also, that GPU looks pretty wild with a IHS on it!!! Very interesting. Even though it’s older GPU, the PCB looks very premium. 

 

I don't like the lid. But it's impossible cruch the die if you overthighten. The screws will go to hell long time before the silicon😀

[Mr. Fox]

9 minutes ago, Papusan said:

But I drink a lot coffee. Probably +20 cups a day

My wife loves coffee and she can drink it black all day long. I do not care for the smell or taste of it. If I drink coffee it has to be loaded with flavoring additives, about half cream and lots of artificial sweetener. Or, with melted caramel and vanilla ice cream added. Then it is like liquid candy and doesn't resemble coffee any more. But, I drink almost exclusively cold beverages, even when I am in a cold climate. When I was in Chicago a few weeks ago and it was sub-zero temperatures I was drinking iced tea, diet Dr. Pepper and diet Coke, even at breakfast.

[Papusan]

7 minutes ago, Mr. Fox said:

My wife loves coffee and she can drink it black all day long. I do not care for the smell or taste of it. If I drink coffee it has to be loaded with flavoring additives, about half cream and lots of artificial sweetener. Or, with melted caramel and vanilla ice cream added. Then it is like liquid candy and doesn't resemble coffee any more. But, I drink almost exclusively cold beverages, even when I am in a cold climate. When I was in Chicago a few weeks ago and it was sub-zero temperatures I was drinking iced tea, diet Dr. Pepper and diet Coke, even at breakfast.

 

Maybe we should swap wife's?😀 My wife don't like Coffee. Have never liked it. She only  drink tea and sugar free coke as Pepsi Max. I see a good match there bro Fox😁

 

 

[Mr. Fox]

1 hour ago, Papusan said:

 

Maybe we should swap wife's?😀 My wife don't like Coffee. Have never liked it. She only  drink tea and sugar free coke as Pepsi Max. I see a good match there bro Fox😁

I am not sure how our wives would feel about that. I'm sure she is a wonderful woman, but I'm probably as attached to mine as you are to yours. Hard to beat 38 years of familiarity and friendship, even if they prefer different beverages than we do.

 

I wonder if EK ever figured out what they did wrong on the bare die thing. I am wondering if the newly launched EK Nucleus CR360 Bare Die AIO would work well in the midget monster.

 

That is also an interesting prototype LGA 1700 heat spreader made like the one Roman made for AM5. It replaces the ILM and IHS.

 

Looks like between 15-20°C temperature reduction with the bare die AIO.

 

[Talon]

1 hour ago, Mr. Fox said:

My wife loves coffee and she can drink it black all day long. I do not care for the smell or taste of it. If I drink coffee it has to be loaded with flavoring additives, about half cream and lots of artificial sweetener. Or, with melted caramel and vanilla ice cream added. Then it is like liquid candy and doesn't resemble coffee any more. But, I drink almost exclusively cold beverages, even when I am in a cold climate. When I was in Chicago a few weeks ago and it was sub-zero temperatures I was drinking iced tea, diet Dr. Pepper and diet Coke, even at breakfast.

 

LOL I run on coffee. Luckily my wife also loves coffee too. I can drink it black or with some coffee mate. If we do iced, were all about heavy cream and no sweeteners. The full fat in heavy cream cuts down the bitterness of iced coffee, gives it a great creamy flavor and some calories for the lizard brain. 

[Papusan]

2 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

I am not sure how our wives would feel about that. I'm sure she is a wonderful woman, but I'm probably as attached to mine as you are to yours. Hard to beat 38 years of familiarity and friendship, even if they prefer different beverages than we do.

 

I wonder if EK ever figured out what they did wrong on the bare die thing. I am wondering if the newly launched EK Nucleus CR360 Bare Die AIO would work well in the midget monster.

 

That is also an interesting prototype LGA 1700 heat spreader made like the one Roman made for AM5. It replaces the ILM and IHS.

 

Looks like between 15-20°C temperature reduction with the bare die AIO.

 

 

I never got answers bak on my reply when the video was posted on Youtube. I can clearly see the "paint on the wall". And it seems the influencers throw the problem under the carpet. 

 

 

And I posted about this in the forum when the video was up...

 

This could be worse. +80% Asic and Samsung Vram. But if I remember correctly... The Gainward GTX570 card had Asic above 86% and Samsung Vram. 

 

Yup "all black" bro @electrosoft😁

 

On 2/4/2024 at 10:57 PM, Papusan said:

Regarding shuddy/questionable quality. Will EK's new direct die AIO fail equal hard as their EK Direct Die custom water block? 

 

EK Direct Die AiO CPU cooler yields ‘impressive results’ - 13900KS temperatures can be 20 degrees better than air cooler (both tested with liquid metal)...

 

https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/cooling/ek-direct-die-aio-cpu-cooler-yields-impressive-results-13900ks-temperatures-can-be-20-degrees-better-than-stock

 

1 hour ago, Talon said:

 

LOL I run on coffee. Luckily my wife also loves coffee too. I can drink it black or with some coffee mate. If we do iced, were all about heavy cream and no sweeteners. The full fat in heavy cream cuts down the bitterness of iced coffee, gives it a great creamy flavor and some calories for the lizard brain. 

 

I got a new Coffee machine for this Christmas. As usual I buy automatic machines with coffee grinder so I can make it the way I want. The machines with Coffee pads is more expensive in use. But the machines is cheaper.

[Papusan]

 

 

Hmmm. Not exactly brand new black crocs. This scammer have no class😆 The pair of women's shoes inside weren't even new, as they seemed to have been used... no graphics card, and a worn-down pair of women's shoes. Scam.

 

 

Vietnamese buyer scammed: buys RTX 3060 Ti, gets a pair of womens shoes instead

Read more: https://www.tweaktown.com/news/96315/vietnamese-buyer-scammed-buys-rtx-3060-ti-gets-pair-of-womens-shoes-instead/index.html

[Mr. Fox]

On 2/4/2024 at 2:57 PM, Papusan said:

Regarding shuddy/questionable quality. Will EK's new direct die AIO fail equal hard as their EK Direct Die custom water block? 

 

EK Direct Die AiO CPU cooler yields ‘impressive results’ - 13900KS temperatures can be 20 degrees better than air cooler (both tested with liquid metal)...

 

https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/cooling/ek-direct-die-aio-cpu-cooler-yields-impressive-results-13900ks-temperatures-can-be-20-degrees-better-than-stock

As you may recall, I had one. The issue was not build quality. The problem was the block not making proper contact with the die. If I had to guess what went wrong, they were probably exercising more caution than they should have to avoid the block putting too much pressure on the die and breaking it, and that caused contact to be insufficient in some installations. Even Kit Guru had to mill down their test prototype to obtain proper die contact because of that. I could see the fear of inexperienced users breaking their CPUs by improper installation might be a concern for them, but it needs to work right and working right requires solid contact and enough pressure to compress the CPU into the socket firmly, not barely making contact or not at all.

 

Some people had good results with theirs and others (like me) had terrible results. They released an updated CPU frame and cold plate that I understand corrected the problem. I did not want to deal with the nonsense of them releasing a product that was not ready and needed more work, so I opted for a refund instead of playing the part of guinea pig. Time will tell if they learned what they needed to change and corrected their mistakes on the AIO. If they did, then this direct die AIO should be a great product. If they did not, it will be evident right away.

 

This is a very much-needed product and I hope they made it right so that the block makes good contact with the die. If it works well, this will be a real game-changer for a lot of people and copycat products will likely follow. The release of a direct die AIO is long overdue. I am happy to see them making the effort. I'm sure that an AM5 version would be appreciated by our AMD friends as well.

[tps3443]

I woke up, and this was on my porch. These come straight from China it looks like. Working perfect!! And yes I got my free mouse pad I have been waiting for. 

 

 

 

 

 

[Raiderman]

1 hour ago, tps3443 said:

I woke up, and this was on my porch. These come straight from China it looks like. Working perfect!! And yes I got my free mouse pad I have been waiting for. 

 

 

 

 

 

We'll have to do some comparison benching when you get it dialed.

[ryan]

Congrats on your new toy. I wonder what the uplift in crysis remastered will be, and starfield should run at a locked 60fps at 4k. You should be able to do 8k/60 in forza horizon 5, which i'd like to say is one of the best looking games out.