*Official Benchmark Thread* - Post it here or it didn't happen :D

[Papusan]

3 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

Totally expected. When you do something super-stupid, like no hyperthreading, it's going to perform like a CPU with fewer cores. The CPU isn't playing with a full deck, just like the idiots that decided hyperthreading needed to go. Stupidity of that magnitude should not be tolerated.

 

Intel will put their money where they can max out profits to please their shareholders. Aka full focus on mobile and server chips. Mainstream desktop chips can easly be made from silicon and arc meant for Trashtops. Mainstream destop processors is now shuffled into no-man's land.

 

Intel Lunar Lake 15W Benchmarks Bode Well For Future Gaming Handhelds

In our reviews of Lunar Lake systems, we've noted that a particular bright spot for the new Intel SoC, besides its excellent efficiency, is its graphics performance.

 

 

[Mr. Fox]

3 hours ago, Papusan said:

 

Intel will put their money where they can max out profits to please their shareholders. Aka full focus on mobile and server chips. Mainstream desktop chips can easly be made from silicon and arc meant for Trashtops. Mainstream destop processors is now shuffled into no-man's land.

 

Intel Lunar Lake 15W Benchmarks Bode Well For Future Gaming Handhelds

In our reviews of Lunar Lake systems, we've noted that a particular bright spot for the new Intel SoC, besides its excellent efficiency, is its graphics performance.

 

 

The demand for pathetic rubbish like "gaming handhelds" contributes greatly to things turning to crap. When the sheeple love eating doo-doo and gobble it up like candy, that's what the rest of us get for dinner. Lowest common denominators often determine what the rest of us are left with.

[Papusan]

14 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

just like the idiots that decided hyperthreading needed to go. Stupidity of that magnitude should not be tolerated.

 

Intel bashed AMD's offering as being a "glued-together" solution. And here we are today with brand new Intel Cpu's glued together with 5 dies but two of them is so called "dummy" dies🙄 So Intel take it to another level. Hmmm, how dumb can this be? Maybe sanding of the whole die tile mess will be the new most needed mod for consistent core to core temp delta.

Intel slide criticizes AMD for using "glued-together" dies

 

 

Intel Core Ultra 9 285K “Arrow Lake-S” CPU picture leaks out

 

[Mr. Fox]

1 hour ago, Papusan said:

Intel bashed AMD's offering as being a "glued-together" solution. And here we are today with brand new Intel Cpu's glued together with 5 die's but two of them is so called "dummy" dies🙄 So Intel take it to another level. Hmmm, how dumb can this be? Maybe sanding of the whole die tile mess will be the new most needed mod for consistent core to core temp delta.

Intel slide criticizes AMD for using "glued-together" dies

Intel Core Ultra 9 285K “Arrow Lake-S” CPU picture leaks out

I think they were right to be critical when they said that in 2017. It was a bad approach then and it is still a bad approach now. So, Intel is guilty of the same mistake they were once critical of AMD for making. The passage of time didn't make it OK to bring a "glued together" abortion to market. That leaves us with nothing good to choose from now. Stupid wins again. Through the process of elimination we must identify what we believe sucks the least and overlook the poor judgment. 

  

1 hour ago, Papusan said:

Intel Core Ultra 9 285K “Arrow Lake-S” CPU picture leaks out

[tps3443]

So I’m researching sapphire rapids W790 more and more each day. This platform is a server grade system that uses RDIMMS, server side has used RDIMM for a long time

now. These are essentially 12V ram sticks. So they are different to our DDR4/DDR5 UDIMMS which are supplied with 5V. Anyways, all of the same ram IC’s you find for Z690/Z790 are popping up on the server side. Thats absolutely right, even Hynix A Die and Hynix M die 3Gbit are available in green sticks with an unlocked PMIC for full-on overclocking ability in the form of server ECC ram!!! It’s nuts lol. “Hey guys let me go overclock my server ECC ram” that’s the exact time we’re in right now. People would laugh at this years ago, but yet it is a reality! 🤣

 

Moving on further, I do like Sapphire Rapids because it is available with Monolithic design die and only P-Cores, and HT enabled. Let’s take a look at the prior gen 2465X this chip at only 5Ghz is a ripper!! Hitting 41K with same threads as a 14900KS while only clocked to 5.0Ghz. Newer gen clocks faster and has more cores, has faster clocking mesh/ring. So 2565X (18/36) should be hitting about 47K in R23 at only 5.0Ghz.
 

Reading all of this about the W790 platform is awesome for sure. 
 

[Clamibot]

I finally got around to doing some memory overclocking with my kit. I'm on an MSI Unity Z590 motherboard with a 10900K and am running all 4 of my memory modules at 4100 MHz CL 15. What is the maximum safe voltage for the IMC on a 10900K? I had to raise the IMC voltage up to 1.47v to get this memory overclock stabilized.

[tps3443]

Just now, Clamibot said:

I finally got around to doing some memory overclocking with my kit. I'm on an MSI Unity Z590 motherboard with a 10900K and am running all 4 of my memory modules at 4100 MHz CL 15. What is the maximum safe voltage for the IMC on a 10900K? I had to raise the IMC voltage up to 1.47v to get this memory overclock stabilized.

About 1.550V to IMC is okay daily. 

[Clamibot]

2 minutes ago, tps3443 said:

About 1.550V to IMC is okay daily. 

Thanks. I'm going to see what heights I can achieve on this 4 DIMM motherboard then. Overclocking the memory has greatly increased my framerates in newer games (40% increase in performance in games like Control and Shadow of the Tomb Raider) vs what I get on my X170SM-G despite having the same CPU in both systems. Anyone who says memory doesn't matter for gaming performance is grossly misinformed as it makes a very big difference.

I saw people saying that 1.35v was the maximum safe voltage for the IMC on a 10900K 24/7, but these were the same people saying 1.55v on your memory would fry it despite there bing XMP kits rated for that voltage. I wanted a second opinion from someone on these forums as opinions here are very accurate. thanks again!

[Mr. Fox]

6 minutes ago, Clamibot said:

I finally got around to doing some memory overclocking with my kit. I'm on an MSI Unity Z590 motherboard with a 10900K and am running all 4 of my memory modules at 4100 MHz CL 15. What is the maximum safe voltage for the IMC on a 10900K? I had to raise the IMC voltage up to 1.47v to get this memory overclock stabilized.

 

5 minutes ago, tps3443 said:

About 1.550V to IMC is okay daily. 

Totally agree. You could even do up to 1.600V. The biggest problem is keeping the memory cool enough to not error out. Once the memory temps go above about 45°C you start to lose stability.

[Clamibot]

Just now, Mr. Fox said:

 

Totally agree. You could even do up to 1.600V. The biggest problem is keeping the memory cool enough to not error out. Once the memory temps go above about 45°C you start to lose stability.

Good thing I have some Noctua 3000 RPM iPPC fans.🤪

[Mr. Fox]

9 minutes ago, Clamibot said:

Thanks. I'm going to see what heights I can achieve on this 4 DIMM motherboard then. Overclocking the memory has greatly increased my framerates in newer games (40% increase in performance in games like Control and Shadow of the Tomb Raider) vs what I get on my X170SM-G despite having the same CPU in both systems. Anyone who says memory doesn't matter for gaming performance is grossly misinformed as it makes a very big difference.

I saw people saying that 1.35v was the maximum safe voltage for the IMC on a 10900K 24/7, but these were the same people saying 1.55v on your memory would fry it despite there bing XMP kits rated for that voltage. I wanted a second opinion from someone on these forums as opinions here are very accurate. thanks again!

It's amazing how many people speak so boldly about things that they are totally ignorant about. It happens a lot. Many of them just repeat what they hear others saying and they have no idea how full of baloney and misinformed about things they are. It was not unheard of to see 1.800V on VDIMM with DDR3 overclocking.

[cylix]

Skip generation, looks like a complete letdown..

 

https://videocardz.com/newz/intel-admits-core-ultra-9-285k-will-be-slower-than-i9-14900k-in-gaming

 

This chinese slides are Intel Official ones, in reality it could be worse.

[Mr. Fox]

38 minutes ago, cylix said:

Skip generation, looks like a complete letdown..

 

https://videocardz.com/newz/intel-admits-core-ultra-9-285k-will-be-slower-than-i9-14900k-in-gaming

 

This chinese slides are Intel Official ones, in reality it could be worse.

The 3 FPS is probably within a margin of error. Considering the loss of workload processing abilities it's probably nice that it did not lose more than 3 FPS. What bothers me way more that that is their misguided focus and that they are chirping about the fact that the CPU uses less power. As if that is some kind of admirable quality or special feature. It's all a bunch of smoke and mirror nonsense designed to titilate the nonsensical tree-hugger types. Fewer cores/threads and no hyperthreading... of course it uses less power. Like, duh! 1+1=2. But, so what... who gives a rat's butt? I think the people in charge of technology development must have been the babies that got dropped on their heads during birth. They're all, collectively, the world's super-idiots.

[Papusan]

8 hours ago, cylix said:

Skip generation, looks like a complete letdown..

 

https://videocardz.com/newz/intel-admits-core-ultra-9-285k-will-be-slower-than-i9-14900k-in-gaming

 

This chinese slides are Intel Official ones, in reality it could be worse.

 

In reality it could be worse? 

 

8 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

The 3 FPS is probably within a margin of error. Considering the loss of workload processing abilities it's probably nice that it did not lose more than 3 FPS. What bothers me way more that that is their misguided focus and that they are chirping about the fact that the CPU uses less power. As if that is some kind of admirable quality or special feature. It's all a bunch of smoke and mirror nonsense designed to titilate the nonsensical tree-hugger types. Fewer cores/threads and no hyperthreading... of course it uses less power. Like, duh! 1+1=2. But, so what... who gives a rat's butt? I think the people in charge of technology development must have been the babies that got dropped on their heads during birth. They're all, collectively, the world's super-idiots.

 

 

Nice. The final Vmin Shift Instability issue fix come right in time before Arrow Lake release date. I wonder if the fix was able to narrow the performance gap bethween Arrow Lake and the faster 14900K in games. Yup, I expect the performance figures in games showed in the Chinese slides from Intel bethween Core Ultra 9 285K and 14900K is done with an castrated 14900K running their latest fix.

 

In short... The gaming results from Core Ultra 9 285K are even worse than what the slides show😀 But hey, what do I know. The single core Jockey's got exactly what they wanted. Power efficiency to try beat ARM and AMD in what's matter.

 

Exactly where I see Intel right now.... Stupid is as stupid does.

 

From reddit...🤢🤮🤢

 

 

ARL-S IPC (vs 13/14th)

 

P Core +9%
E Core +32%

 

So Intel throwed away HT for better power efficiency and measly 9% IPC gains for the P-cores. And the so called better multi threaded performance will mostly come from improved Baby cores. Disgusting!

 

 

[electrosoft]

8 hours ago, cylix said:

Skip generation, looks like a complete letdown..

 

https://videocardz.com/newz/intel-admits-core-ultra-9-285k-will-be-slower-than-i9-14900k-in-gaming

 

This chinese slides are Intel Official ones, in reality it could be worse.

 

I'm still going to wait to see it in the hands of those who know what they're doing before passing judgement.

 

14th gen has had the luxury of almost two years of tuning under its belt. And I have yet to see day one reviewers get anywhere close to what the OC community achieves within even just a few days let alone a few weeks or a month.

 

We're either going to see a 10th->11th gen scenario (Not much of an uplift overall in games and in general but still there) or we're going to see an 11th->12th gen scenario (massive uplift once tuned).

 

My biggest concern is if this socket is a stopgap one off to Intel's real deal for 16th gen.

 

Something like this where 10th->11th was marginal but 11th to 12th was massive:

 

 

 

[Mr. Fox]

Another example of the flawed approach of doing more with less. Doing more with less should only be a means or a segue into doing more with more. Say, for example, you can make a stock 24-thread CPU perform about the same as a stock 32-thread CPU, but the 24-thread CPU uses only 240W versus 375W. That's nice. But who cares? How high will it overclock and can it still beat the 32-thread CPU when you push both of them harder? If the answer is no, then it's not progress. It's a copout. If the answer is yes, then don't stop there. That's not good enough. It is complacency. Make the better IPC and more efficient 24-thread CPU a 32-thread or 36-thread option and stop worrying about how many watts it pulls. If you find headroom, then use it and do more with more. We need to stop trying to do more with less. That's stupid. It's a mentality that has made turdbooks turdier than they ever have been.

 

Another way of looking at it... If it actually turns out that the first round of Arrow Lake is really something special, then definitely don't buy it. You're part of an experiment and a crash test dummy. Wait for the "Ti" CPU that has more cores, more threads, doesn't use less power and is actually worthy of being purchased. Remember what we learned from 12900K/KF... 13900K/KF came next. Wait for the kill. What comes after will be the actual successor to today's best, not what comes first.

 

Similar scenarios have played out on the Ryzen side of the house. We need to use our brains and remember that newer is always better newer. Better doesn't usually happen until v2.0... after you have already wasted money paying to be on the crash test dummy team. Better luck next time, sucker.

[Papusan]

3 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

We need to use our brains and remember that newer is always better newer. Better luck next time, sucker.

 

This is the performance that matters in end of 2024/25. Single threaded performance. Why all the talk about multi core performance? It seems no one need it. Or do they? Remember there are several benchmarks now on the bot that cater to single threded performance.  Modern computer users want smartphone power efficiency nowadays. Hence we now have smartphone cores packed into desktop processors. It's what it is.

 

Update: A new slide shared by Wnxod shows Core Ultra 9 285K compared to Ryzen 9 9950X in four benchmarks. It claims that Intel has 8% geometric increase over last-gen series in single-threaded applications and 4% advantage over Ryzen 9 9950X. See... Intel beat AMD🥴 And you probably don't need good cooling anymore. Isn't that a win for Intel? 

 

 

See also... This

 

 

 

Nice seeing engineers as Aris at Cybenetics say the same as I have said from the beginning.... 12VHPWR/12V-2x6 power connector on the PSU panel is stupid. Rather go back to add loads of 8-pin connectors on the PSU. And stop making things worse than it has to be with this stupid designed power connector on the PSU side. 

 

[tps3443]

I have ultimately decided against Intel 285K and Z890 at this point. It all does feel like a stop gap generation to me. And I think following next generation 16th gen should be where it’s at. These generational gains are so weak with CPU’s and new chipsets. Sometimes you even lose performance in some areas. 
 

Lately I have realized that I’m involved in this hobby for the experience and the enjoyment. Not whether or not something is current gen, or how much time it has left until it’s replaced lol, newness of something is absolutely irrelevant. 
 

 I actually decided on a retro build kinda like what @Mr. Fox did with his X99 setup, seeing that brought back memories. So I actually bought this Asus Dominus Extreme LGA3647 motherboard for a really really good price. I’m getting a Xeon 3175X 28/56 CPU next, then I’ll throw in my 128GB of DDR4 3200 CL14 Samsung B-Die on the board 🤤, and overclock it all to the moon lol. Should be plenty of fun and nostalgia. ^ This all sounded much more interesting for some reason. 🤷‍♂️

 

Yep, I picked up a matched (128GB) (8x16GB) of Gskill Samsung B-Die set for $250. 🤯 Samsung B-Die is VERY hard to find these days for a normal price, and people are actually scalping it left and right. I couldn’t believe it. 128GB maches kit for $250 is a STEAL for Samsung B-Die. 
 

Now I just need a Xeon 3175X, if anyone has one for-sale here let me know. 
 

These Dominus C621 motherboards actually support 192GB of DDR4 4200c17, which is pretty nuts. They should have IMC’s very capable like 10900K, only while using larger quantities of ram. The G.Skill 3200c14 (128GB) ram kit I purchased should not have any trouble running DDR4 4200c16. Maybe I can push it even further depending on IMC and amount of ram I leave installed. 
 

 

[electrosoft]

1 hour ago, tps3443 said:

I have ultimately decided against Intel 285K and Z890 at this point. It all does feel like a stop gap generation to me. And I think following next generation 16th gen should be where it’s at. These generational gains are so weak with CPU’s and new chipsets. Sometimes you even lose performance in some areas.

 

 

Agreed.

 

I am still holding out to see what Intel brings to the plate, but it will have to be something meaningful. I had fun with 11th but a lot of it was the iterative rehash of skylake that had dragged on for far too long (6th->10th) and it was something new and different. I don't know if I have the $$$ and patience this time to do it all over again for minor gains.

 

Then again, I'm not expecting a barn burner from 9000X3D either but I could be pleasantly surprised on both fronts.

 

I'm slowly starting to list and divest myself of a lot of my hardware. Just too much laying around and I'm not doing backflips for the next gen. Listed a few systems already. Got a few more in the weeds to list. Listed my 7900xtx for $725 shipped ($800 on fleabay soon). Up next is my golden 4090 for $1850 ($1950 on fleabay soon). Like I said, whichever one sells, I'll ride out the other. Might list my 7950X3D and ride my 14900KS to 9950X3D. Still have some 12900k chips to list and a few laptops. Just nothing is exciting me atm.

 

I think I might be a bit.....bored? 🤣

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Mr. Fox]

11 hours ago, tps3443 said:

I have ultimately decided against Intel 285K and Z890 at this point. It all does feel like a stop gap generation to me. And I think following next generation 16th gen should be where it’s at. These generational gains are so weak with CPU’s and new chipsets. Sometimes you even lose performance in some areas. 
 

Lately I have realized that I’m involved in this hobby for the experience and the enjoyment. Not whether or not something is current gen, or how much time it has left until it’s replaced lol, newness of something is absolutely irrelevant. 
 

 I actually decided on a retro build kinda like what @Mr. Fox did with his X99 setup, seeing that brought back memories. So I actually bought this Asus Dominus Extreme LGA3647 motherboard for a really really good price. I’m getting a Xeon 3175X 28/56 CPU next, then I’ll throw in my 128GB of DDR4 3200 CL14 Samsung B-Die on the board 🤤, and overclock it all to the moon lol. Should be plenty of fun and nostalgia. ^ This all sounded much more interesting for some reason. 🤷‍♂️

 

Yep, I picked up a matched (128GB) (8x16GB) of Gskill Samsung B-Die set for $250. 🤯 Samsung B-Die is VERY hard to find these days for a normal price, and people are actually scalping it left and right. I couldn’t believe it. 128GB maches kit for $250 is a STEAL for Samsung B-Die. 
 

Now I just need a Xeon 3175X, if anyone has one for-sale here let me know. 
 

These Dominus C621 motherboards actually support 192GB of DDR4 4200c17, which is pretty nuts. They should have IMC’s very capable like 10900K, only while using larger quantities of ram. The G.Skill 3200c14 (128GB) ram kit I purchased should not have any trouble running DDR4 4200c16. Maybe I can push it even further depending on IMC and amount of ram I leave installed. 
 

 

As an added bonus, you'll have TWO DIMM.2 cards running off CPU lanes. PCIe lanes up your kazoo and more than you can utilize. Now you need two 3090 Ti SLI. Should be able to run both at x16. And, best of all... you should have 100% driver support for Windows 7 now. Say goodbye to Windoze bloat performance castration.

 

Maybe this weekend I will fire up the chiller and nudge this KS to 60x or 61x all P-core. Pretty nice score for such a modest overclock.

  

9 hours ago, electrosoft said:

Just nothing is exciting me atm.

That sums it up for me, too. The progressive regression of PC technology holds no interest for me. I might have to continue the legacy build thing. The X99 build was a blast and dirt cheap. It runs unexplainably well compared against current tech and my son-in-law and grandaughters are in hog heaven playing with it. Until now they have only owned skanky low-end turdbooks and obsolete Dell Precision and Latitude off-lease refurbs. It was like I gave them the world and I traded old parts, built with spare parts and had less than $100 invested in it.

 

Depending on how that build goes for @tps3443 I may find the urge to play copy cat too much to resist.

[tps3443]

5 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

As an added bonus, you'll have TWO DIMM.2 cards running off CPU lanes. PCIe lanes up your kazoo and more than you can utilize. Now you need two 3090 Ti SLI. Should be able to run both at x16. And, best of all... you should have 100% driver support for Windows 7 now. Say goodbye to Windoze bloat performance castration.

 

Maybe this weekend I will fire up the chiller and nudge this KS to 60x or 61x all P-core. Pretty nice score for such a modest overclock.

  

That sums it up for me, too. The progressive regression of PC technology holds no interest for me. I might have to continue the legacy build thing. The X99 build was a blast and dirt cheap. It runs unexplainable well compared against current tech and my son-in-law and grandaughters are in hog heaven playing with it. Until now they have only owned skanky low-end turdbooks and obsolete Dell Precision and Latitude off-lease refurbs. It was like I gave them the world and I traded old parts, built with spare parts and had less than $100 invested in it.

 

Depending on how that build goes for @tps3443 I may find the urge to play copy cat too much to resist.

These systems are pretty awesome. Definitely lots of cores and power for today, I just hope the board works okay. Many of them had a cold bug which was caused by 1 single resistor near the debug led readout. This resistor would prevent powering on if the system was in a room colder than 75F ambient, it’s an easy fix something we can replace our selves, or use a hair dryer to start our PC in the mornings lol. they also have some Cascade Lake options available as well for this socket like the Xeon 3275/3275M, and even the Xeon platinum 6158R which are both 28/56 with higher clocks but they are both locked unfortunately, so 3175X is still best option. I plan to crank it to 5.0Ghz and pull off some strong R23 runs. I’ll drop in the 4090 and see how it does with gaming lol. 😆This system is so old it’s carbureted lol. 
 

I am going to install the whole 128GB DDR4 kit, and grab (4) more sticks so it’s 192GB. This system will be the daily work mule. I may build it in a case. The motherboard is absolutely huge so I need to make sure it fits. Also, it includes (2) Dimm2 adapters. So I will definitely use these. 
 

 

I saw a few of the Kits like mine that were not Samsung B-Die, so make sure you read the stick and confirm it has “10B” this is for pretty much all G.Skill DDR4 rams that are B-Die 8GB, or 16GB, or even 32GB sticks which are the absolute rarest of all. Corsair is “4.31” for all B-Die.
 

[win32asmguy]

10 hours ago, electrosoft said:

I'm slowly starting to list and divest myself of a lot of my hardware. Just too much laying around and I'm not doing backflips for the next gen. Listed a few systems already. Got a few more in the weeds to list. Listed my 7900xtx for $725 shipped ($800 on fleabay soon). Up next is my golden 4090 for $1850 ($1950 on fleabay soon). Like I said, whichever one sells, I'll ride out the other. Might list my 7950X3D and ride my 14900KS to 9950X3D. Still have some 12900k chips to list and a few laptops. Just nothing is exciting me atm.

 

I think I might be a bit.....bored? 🤣

 

I need to list a bunch of laptops as well. Sadly still using laptops as my daily driver, just simply because of travel and able to easily move around the house as needed. The desktop is still very nice to have though. I am guessing a 9950X might be the best chip for handbrake encoding and 9950x3d would likely not be better.

 

I still enjoy tinkering with open firmware on my System76 laptops but the next one needs to be the model that actually has a vapor chamber. The X370 really struggles with cooling and I have not seen any aftermarket heatsink options come out for it yet.

[tps3443]

I feel special with my 128GB of DDR4 Samsung B-Die kit. Then I watch this video how people were amazed and see it was posted 9 years ago! 🤣 It still sounds like a lot of ram to me even nearly 10 years later. It does not work that way with video cards and system storage. Nice to see that mostly all processors, ram, motherboards are all still quite useable as a whole with modern parts.

 

[Mr. Fox]

18 hours ago, electrosoft said:

I'm slowly starting to list and divest myself of a lot of my hardware. Just too much laying around and I'm not doing backflips for the next gen.

 

7 hours ago, win32asmguy said:

I need to list a bunch of laptops as well.

When I built the X99 desktop from traded surplus parts I found a lot of old laptop parts. Some of it was stuff that I forgot that I had. I initially planned to list it all for sale, but there was too much old Alienware and Clevo crap to deal with and a bunch of it without enough monetary value to justify the amount of time and effort that would be needed to sell it. So, I tossed most of it in my garbage so I didn't have to deal with it. The only items I kept (which wasn't very much) are things usable for the Dell Precision 7720 laptops that my wife and I still have.

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https://www.overclock.net/posts/29375135/

[Papusan]

On 9/29/2024 at 1:18 PM, Mr. Fox said:

It's a downgrade. It's missing 8 cores/threads. Even E-cores add to multi-threaded performance. You'd have to overclock it to the moon to get the same results with 8 missing cores. No point in buying new tech that is a downgrade if your goal is an upgrade.

 

1 hour ago, Mr. Fox said:

https://www.overclock.net/posts/29375135/

 

From 13:10

 

Nvidia Confirms RTX 50 Release | Arrow Lake Gaming Benchmarks

 

And from 10:10

 

On 7/23/2024 at 8:07 AM, Papusan said:

Impressive. Read my previous post about what thermal paste Nvidia's AIB partners use today for newest graphic cards. Can't even last a year before the paste is turned into useless. Igors lab said it was used cheapo trash from all AIB partners. They all go with the cheapest they can get for their very overpriced graphic cards. What do they save? 30-50 cents for every card?

 

Opened up the MSI 770 Lightning. As expected, 11 year old rock-hard thermal paste. Never been opened so this is real old paste from the factory. They don't use such thermal paste nowadays for new and modern. The new and modern get the cheapest you can get that last maybe a few months. Not +10 years as this old lady have run🙂