Mr. Fox Posted Monday at 10:31 PM Author Share Posted Monday at 10:31 PM 7 minutes ago, Papusan said: AMD know how to fix flawed thermal design... AMD has reportedly modified the TjMax of SK Hynix's GDDR6 for the RX 9070 XT and RX 9070: from 85º C as a sustained value to 108º C as a limit Yikes! That's just insane. 👺 1 WRAITH // Z790 Apex | 14900KS | 4090 Suprim X+Byksi Block | 48GB DDR5-8600 | Toughpower 1650W | MO-RA3 360 | Hailea HC-500A || O11D XL EVO (T-Rex) BANSHEE // X670E Gene | 9950X | 4090 Gaming OC+Alphacool Block | 32GB DDR5-8200 | RM1200x SHIFT | XT45 1080 Nova || Antec C8 (Rhinoceros) SPECTRE // Z790i Edge | 13900KS | 3090 Ti FTW3 | 48GB DDR5-8200 | RM1000e | EK Nucleus CR360 Direct Die || Prime A21 (Rattlesnake) HALF-BREED // Precision 7720 | BGA CPU Filth | 32GB DDR4 | Quadro P5000 | 4K Display | Nothing to Write Home About (Turdbook) Mr. Fox YouTube Channel | Mr. Fox @ HWBOT The average response time for a 911 call is 10 minutes. The response time of a .357 is 1400 feet per second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
electrosoft Posted Monday at 10:35 PM Share Posted Monday at 10:35 PM 2 hours ago, jaybee83 said: kool....so whos skipping the 5090 to get one of DEEEZ NUTS? 😄 edit: as for the 5090, prices keep falling and supply keeps improving. just now one of the shops im monitoring got in 8(!) 5090 Suprim Air, and theyre not vanishing inside of seconds. same goes for stuff on ebay and amazon. im thinking that the market demand for 5090s at ridonkulous markups over the MSRP has dried up 🙂 keep HODLING guys, were getting there! Yep, things are proceeding as predicted. April/May things will really shore up. Good to see so many 9070xt's just languishing on eBay. Scalpers under estimated supply big time. $1999.99 or bust is my motto now. 1 2 Electrosoft Alpha: 9800X3D | Asus X870E Hero Crosshair | Nvidia RTX 5080 FE| AC LF II 420 | TG 2x24GB 8200 @ 2200/6400 tuned | Samsung 990 Pro 2TB | EVGA 1600w P2 | Phanteks Ethroo Pro | Alienware AW3225QF 32" OLED Heath: i9-14900KS SP109 | EVGA CLC 280 | Asus Strix Z690 D4 | Asus Strix 3080 | 32GB DDR4 2x16GB B-Die 4000 | Samsung 980 1TB Pro | EVGA DG-77 | Samsung G7 32" 144hz 32" Ellectrosoft Mobile Alpha: MSI Raider | 7950HX3D | Nvidia RTX 4090 | Kingston Fury 2x16GB DDR5 | Samsung 990 Pro 2TB | 18" QHD | WiFi 7 Ellectrosoft Mobile Beta: Eurocom X15 Raptor | i9-12900k | Nvidia RTX 3070ti | HyperX 3200 CL20 32GB | Samsung 990 2TB | 15.6" 144hz | Wifi 6E Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papusan Posted Monday at 10:42 PM Share Posted Monday at 10:42 PM 13 minutes ago, Mr. Fox said: Yikes! That's just insane. 👺 Yup, equal stupid as this modern trend below. Only to cut down costs. On 3/8/2025 at 4:20 AM, Papusan said: More pc gamers will see the same. As I have posted several times... More and more PSUs come with almost no 8 pins connectors anymore beacuse all the focus is on 12V-2x6 connectors. Some come even with two of them for 1000W SKUs and measly 3x 8 pins connectors on the PSU panel. You can see the stupid engineering choices here... and here "The Killer" ASUS ROG Z790 Apex Encore | 14900KS | 4090 HOF + 20 other graphics cards | 32GB DDR5 | Be Quiet! Dark Power Pro 12 - 1500 Watt | Second PSU - Cooler Master V750 SFX Gold 750W (For total of 2250W Power) | Corsair Obsidian 1000D | Custom Cooling | Asus ROG Strix XG27AQ 27" Monitors | Papusan @ HWBOT | Team PremaMod @ HWBOT | Papusan @ YouTube Channel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tps3443 Posted Monday at 10:56 PM Share Posted Monday at 10:56 PM This was a complex bend for me. But I managed okay on the first go! I discovered that if you just hold the tube in place, and check it by eye, and mark where you think the 90 degree bend needs to be, it actually works out. I haven’t used a tape measure one time. I have just eyed everything out. And put a dot, bend, cut, dot, bend cut etc. I have not had to redo a single tube. And Anyways, almost done with it! I just need a G1/4 Y-adapter, and a G1/4 drain valve for my basement dual D5 (This way I can quickly and easily drain the loop for maintenance, this system weights about 100+ pounds if I guessed, no exaggerating here, I literally cannot lift it or move it, so I have to make the drain easy to access without moving or tipping the case at all, because unfortunately it’s just too large and way too heavy to move at all) I also need some bright purple coolant. (NO PASTELS) May use a pink or red, maybe even a blue, maybe nvidia green. Would love to hear everyone’s opinions on colors, or maybe drain recommendations. (I’ve never ran a drain before) 1 13900KF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Fox Posted Monday at 11:12 PM Author Share Posted Monday at 11:12 PM 31 minutes ago, Papusan said: Yup, equal stupid as this modern trend below. Only to cut down costs. Better to buy an older ATX 2.0 PSU with only 8-pin PCIe cables and without any arson connectors and either use the arson plug pigtail adapter that comes with the GPU or buy an 8-pin to arson cable and not be restricted by the engineering defects of new crap tech. 1 WRAITH // Z790 Apex | 14900KS | 4090 Suprim X+Byksi Block | 48GB DDR5-8600 | Toughpower 1650W | MO-RA3 360 | Hailea HC-500A || O11D XL EVO (T-Rex) BANSHEE // X670E Gene | 9950X | 4090 Gaming OC+Alphacool Block | 32GB DDR5-8200 | RM1200x SHIFT | XT45 1080 Nova || Antec C8 (Rhinoceros) SPECTRE // Z790i Edge | 13900KS | 3090 Ti FTW3 | 48GB DDR5-8200 | RM1000e | EK Nucleus CR360 Direct Die || Prime A21 (Rattlesnake) HALF-BREED // Precision 7720 | BGA CPU Filth | 32GB DDR4 | Quadro P5000 | 4K Display | Nothing to Write Home About (Turdbook) Mr. Fox YouTube Channel | Mr. Fox @ HWBOT The average response time for a 911 call is 10 minutes. The response time of a .357 is 1400 feet per second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papusan Posted Monday at 11:20 PM Share Posted Monday at 11:20 PM 3 hours ago, Mr. Fox said: Better to buy an older ATX 2.0 PSU with only 8-pin PCIe cables and without any arson connectors and either use the arson plug pigtail adapter that comes with the GPU or buy an 8-pin to arson cable and not be restricted by the engineering defects of new crap tech. And buy from a PSU brand that offer (are able to sell) original 8 pin to 12V-2x6 (12VHPWR) cables. MSI won't help you out here. You are stuck with what you bought. Vote with your wallet. LOL 1 "The Killer" ASUS ROG Z790 Apex Encore | 14900KS | 4090 HOF + 20 other graphics cards | 32GB DDR5 | Be Quiet! Dark Power Pro 12 - 1500 Watt | Second PSU - Cooler Master V750 SFX Gold 750W (For total of 2250W Power) | Corsair Obsidian 1000D | Custom Cooling | Asus ROG Strix XG27AQ 27" Monitors | Papusan @ HWBOT | Team PremaMod @ HWBOT | Papusan @ YouTube Channel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tps3443 Posted yesterday at 02:17 AM Share Posted yesterday at 02:17 AM Doing some more bends. I hope this thing is air tight lol. I’ll do a leak test soon. It is not complete just yet though. I really need to get a 4090 block I’m being cheap though, part of me doesn’t want to spend another dime. We’ll see. 1 1 13900KF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Fox Posted yesterday at 02:33 AM Author Share Posted yesterday at 02:33 AM So, I snagged one. I guess I will find out tomorrow morning if my order gets cancelled again. This one has a vapor chamber, thermal putty and what looks like 9 heat pipes. $700, which it think is good for the better overall build quality. Hopefully it will be worth it. 3100MHz boost, 2520MHz memory and 340W TDP. Same advertised specs as the Taichi OC (but no nasty arson power cable) and XFX Mercury OC. https://www.gigabyte.com/us/Graphics-Card/GV-R9070XTAORUS-E-16GD#kf 3 1 WRAITH // Z790 Apex | 14900KS | 4090 Suprim X+Byksi Block | 48GB DDR5-8600 | Toughpower 1650W | MO-RA3 360 | Hailea HC-500A || O11D XL EVO (T-Rex) BANSHEE // X670E Gene | 9950X | 4090 Gaming OC+Alphacool Block | 32GB DDR5-8200 | RM1200x SHIFT | XT45 1080 Nova || Antec C8 (Rhinoceros) SPECTRE // Z790i Edge | 13900KS | 3090 Ti FTW3 | 48GB DDR5-8200 | RM1000e | EK Nucleus CR360 Direct Die || Prime A21 (Rattlesnake) HALF-BREED // Precision 7720 | BGA CPU Filth | 32GB DDR4 | Quadro P5000 | 4K Display | Nothing to Write Home About (Turdbook) Mr. Fox YouTube Channel | Mr. Fox @ HWBOT The average response time for a 911 call is 10 minutes. The response time of a .357 is 1400 feet per second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tps3443 Posted yesterday at 05:26 AM Share Posted yesterday at 05:26 AM System is leak tested and air tight at 0.45 Bar! It wasn’t on the first go. It kept losing pressure. It was a bad hardline tubing connection. Had to sand the end of a tube, make it flat and smooth and that did the trick. I cannot run more than 0.50 bar or one of my 90 degree fittings swivels leaks lol. I’ll replace it for sure. I hate bubbles in my loop. Each individual main part was checked for leaks outside of the loop. That’s a nice GPU @Mr. Fox I like it 1 1 13900KF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaybee83 Posted 20 hours ago Share Posted 20 hours ago 6 hours ago, Mr. Fox said: So, I snagged one. I guess I will find out tomorrow morning if my order gets cancelled again. This one has a vapor chamber, thermal putty and what looks like 9 heat pipes. $700, which it think is good for the better overall build quality. Hopefully it will be worth it. 3100MHz boost, 2520MHz memory and 340W TDP. Same advertised specs as the Taichi OC (but no nasty arson power cable) and XFX Mercury OC. https://www.gigabyte.com/us/Graphics-Card/GV-R9070XTAORUS-E-16GD#kf nice, thats pretty good value for 100 bucks more. 1 1 1 Mine: Hyperion "Titan God of Heat, Heavenly Light, Power" (2022-25) AMD Ryzen 9 7950X (TG High Perf. IHS) / Asus ROG Crosshair X670E Extreme / MSI Geforce RTX 4090 Suprim X / Teamgroup T-Force Delta RGB DDR5-8200 2x24 GB / 4x Western Digital Black SN850P/X 8TB in 2x RAID 0 / Arctic Liquid Freezer II 420 (Push/Pull 6x Noctua NF-A14 IndustrialPPC-3000 intake) / Seasonic TX-1600 W Titanium / Phanteks Enthoo Pro 2 TG (3x Arctic P12 A-RGB intake / 4x Arctic P14 A-RGB exhaust / 1x Arctic P14 A-RGB RAM cooling) / Samsung Odyssey Neo G8 32" 4K 240 Hz / Ducky One 3 Daybreak Fullsize Cherry MX Brown / Corsair M65 Ultra RGB / PDP Afterglow Wave Black / Beyerdynamic DT 770 Pro X Limited Edition My Lady's: Clevo NH55JNNQ "Alfred" (2022-25) Sharp LQ156M1JW03 FHD matte 15.6" IGZO 8 bit @248 Hz / Intel Core i5 12600 / Nvidia Geforce RTX 3070 Ti / Mushkin Redline DDR4-3200 2x32 GB / Samsung 970 Pro 1 TB / Samsung 870 QVO 8 TB / Intel AX201 WIFI 6+BT 5.2 / Win 11 Pro Phoenix Lite OS / 230 W PSU powered by Prema Mod! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tps3443 Posted 12 hours ago Share Posted 12 hours ago So happy with my build!!! So happy it does not leak. 2 13900KF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
electrosoft Posted 11 hours ago Share Posted 11 hours ago @Papusan Yikes! My cost? $3966 after tax so basically $4k..... Problem is basically zero incentive from Nvidia or AMD to keep prices low as the gaming segment of their revenue continues to be dwarfed by AI and other divisions and resource/fab priority places gamers in the bottom tier now: 2 Electrosoft Alpha: 9800X3D | Asus X870E Hero Crosshair | Nvidia RTX 5080 FE| AC LF II 420 | TG 2x24GB 8200 @ 2200/6400 tuned | Samsung 990 Pro 2TB | EVGA 1600w P2 | Phanteks Ethroo Pro | Alienware AW3225QF 32" OLED Heath: i9-14900KS SP109 | EVGA CLC 280 | Asus Strix Z690 D4 | Asus Strix 3080 | 32GB DDR4 2x16GB B-Die 4000 | Samsung 980 1TB Pro | EVGA DG-77 | Samsung G7 32" 144hz 32" Ellectrosoft Mobile Alpha: MSI Raider | 7950HX3D | Nvidia RTX 4090 | Kingston Fury 2x16GB DDR5 | Samsung 990 Pro 2TB | 18" QHD | WiFi 7 Ellectrosoft Mobile Beta: Eurocom X15 Raptor | i9-12900k | Nvidia RTX 3070ti | HyperX 3200 CL20 32GB | Samsung 990 2TB | 15.6" 144hz | Wifi 6E Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tps3443 Posted 11 hours ago Share Posted 11 hours ago @electrosoft How are these temps during a single R23 run on my 14900HX Laptop? This is 100% Fan speed of course. 1 13900KF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
electrosoft Posted 11 hours ago Share Posted 11 hours ago 2 minutes ago, tps3443 said: @electrosoft How are these temps during a single R23 run on my 14900HX Laptop? This is 100% Fan speed of course. Temps look good! You have a lot of headroom for improvement but no way to push it. 😞 I know on the two Asus G18's w/ 13980HX, temps were in the low 80s for multi. Do a single core run and see where your temps go along with your score. 1 Electrosoft Alpha: 9800X3D | Asus X870E Hero Crosshair | Nvidia RTX 5080 FE| AC LF II 420 | TG 2x24GB 8200 @ 2200/6400 tuned | Samsung 990 Pro 2TB | EVGA 1600w P2 | Phanteks Ethroo Pro | Alienware AW3225QF 32" OLED Heath: i9-14900KS SP109 | EVGA CLC 280 | Asus Strix Z690 D4 | Asus Strix 3080 | 32GB DDR4 2x16GB B-Die 4000 | Samsung 980 1TB Pro | EVGA DG-77 | Samsung G7 32" 144hz 32" Ellectrosoft Mobile Alpha: MSI Raider | 7950HX3D | Nvidia RTX 4090 | Kingston Fury 2x16GB DDR5 | Samsung 990 Pro 2TB | 18" QHD | WiFi 7 Ellectrosoft Mobile Beta: Eurocom X15 Raptor | i9-12900k | Nvidia RTX 3070ti | HyperX 3200 CL20 32GB | Samsung 990 2TB | 15.6" 144hz | Wifi 6E Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tps3443 Posted 11 hours ago Share Posted 11 hours ago 10 minutes ago, electrosoft said: Temps look good! You have a lot of headroom for improvement but no way to push it. 😞 I know on the two Asus G18's w/ 13980HX, temps were in the low 80s for multi. Do a single core run and see where your temps go along with your score. Made a quick video. I was most impressed by how tight the core to temps are. I can’t push it. But, It pushes its self really well stock anyways I think. I find the CPU boosting pretty high in games. I really like it! 1 13900KF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papusan Posted 11 hours ago Share Posted 11 hours ago 1 hour ago, electrosoft said: Problem is basically zero incentive from Nvidia or AMD to keep prices low as the gaming segment of their revenue continues to be dwarfed by AI and other divisions and resource/fab priority places gamers in the bottom tier now: Almost Norwegian prices. So it could be worse. If Trump add another 10% you will get real Norwegian prices in US. Who'm could imagine that. Egg prices in US is already on Norwegian level. And it will be worse. Years forwards. Same as here in Norway. First got the higher price level... It will stay. Same as for graphics cards. And tech companies that buy overpriced AI parts from Nvidia want their spent money back. Better the gamers got the silicon. Then we would avoided this trash from Redmond... Giant, AI ads are coming to Windows Copilot. Thanks, Microsoft Microsoft Advertising has shown off new ad formats that insert massive ads right into Copilot, alongside pilot programs to allow brands to create their own AI agents to sell you stuff. And here is one more nail in the Intel as gaming focuses brand... All they have is the single core crown (the main reason they removed HT for all their competing chips). Intel only own their own brand name now. They can't even make own chips. AMD added easly more gaming performance with their new flagship processors. No more need for the X branded Ryzen processors if you go with their X3D chips. It perform equal in all multi core workflow but perform even better in gaming. And Intel continue swimming backwards in a pool of baby cores meant for smartphones baked into their (gaming) flagship desktop processors. Of course phone/tablet processors don't support AVX512 as the real desktop cpu's does. Yup, Intel continue digging their own grave if they continue with their idiotic processor design. E-cores need to be removed...And HT need to come back. AMD Ryzen 9 9950X3D Review: Stunning gaming performance meets top-tier productivity 1 "The Killer" ASUS ROG Z790 Apex Encore | 14900KS | 4090 HOF + 20 other graphics cards | 32GB DDR5 | Be Quiet! Dark Power Pro 12 - 1500 Watt | Second PSU - Cooler Master V750 SFX Gold 750W (For total of 2250W Power) | Corsair Obsidian 1000D | Custom Cooling | Asus ROG Strix XG27AQ 27" Monitors | Papusan @ HWBOT | Team PremaMod @ HWBOT | Papusan @ YouTube Channel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaybee83 Posted 9 hours ago Share Posted 9 hours ago color me impressed! definitely worth the wait, about 30-40% uplift in games vs. my 7950X and even in productivity it regularly beats the 9950X! take a wild guess what ill be doing tomorrow: 2 1 Mine: Hyperion "Titan God of Heat, Heavenly Light, Power" (2022-25) AMD Ryzen 9 7950X (TG High Perf. IHS) / Asus ROG Crosshair X670E Extreme / MSI Geforce RTX 4090 Suprim X / Teamgroup T-Force Delta RGB DDR5-8200 2x24 GB / 4x Western Digital Black SN850P/X 8TB in 2x RAID 0 / Arctic Liquid Freezer II 420 (Push/Pull 6x Noctua NF-A14 IndustrialPPC-3000 intake) / Seasonic TX-1600 W Titanium / Phanteks Enthoo Pro 2 TG (3x Arctic P12 A-RGB intake / 4x Arctic P14 A-RGB exhaust / 1x Arctic P14 A-RGB RAM cooling) / Samsung Odyssey Neo G8 32" 4K 240 Hz / Ducky One 3 Daybreak Fullsize Cherry MX Brown / Corsair M65 Ultra RGB / PDP Afterglow Wave Black / Beyerdynamic DT 770 Pro X Limited Edition My Lady's: Clevo NH55JNNQ "Alfred" (2022-25) Sharp LQ156M1JW03 FHD matte 15.6" IGZO 8 bit @248 Hz / Intel Core i5 12600 / Nvidia Geforce RTX 3070 Ti / Mushkin Redline DDR4-3200 2x32 GB / Samsung 970 Pro 1 TB / Samsung 870 QVO 8 TB / Intel AX201 WIFI 6+BT 5.2 / Win 11 Pro Phoenix Lite OS / 230 W PSU powered by Prema Mod! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tps3443 Posted 9 hours ago Share Posted 9 hours ago 1 minute ago, jaybee83 said: color me impressed! definitely worth the wait, about 30-40% uplift in games vs. my 7950X and even in productivity it regularly beats the 9950X! take a wild guess what ill be doing tomorrow: I assume the bots will buy all of these. Good luck! 9950X3D looks amazing! 1 13900KF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
win32asmguy Posted 8 hours ago Share Posted 8 hours ago 2 hours ago, tps3443 said: Made a quick video. I was most impressed by how tight the core to temps are. I can’t push it. But, It pushes its self really well stock anyways I think. I find the CPU boosting pretty high in games. I really like it! Nice! I like to run Unigine Heaven along with CBR23 as it generally gives me a good idea of crossload performance in games. It looks like it has a 95W PL1 according to the notebookcheck but its great that you can get that at such a good temp with the tweaks you did. Did you get a chance to run Aida64 Cache and Memory on it yet? 1 Desktop - Xeon W7-2495X, 64GB DDR5-6400 C32 ECC, 800GB Optane P5800X, MSI RTX 5090 Gaming Trio OC, Corsair HX1500i, Fractal Define 7 XL, Asus W790E-SAGE SE, Windows 10 Pro 22H2 Clevo PE60SNE - 14900HX, 32GB DDR5-5600 CL40, 4TB WD SN850X, RTX 4070 mobile, 16.0 inch FHD+ 165hz, System76 open source firmware, Windows 10 Pro 22H2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tps3443 Posted 8 hours ago Share Posted 8 hours ago 4 minutes ago, win32asmguy said: Nice! I like to run Unigine Heaven along with CBR23 as it generally gives me a good idea of crossload performance in games. It looks like it has a 95W PL1 according to the notebookcheck but its great that you can get that at such a good temp with the tweaks you did. Did you get a chance to run Aida64 Cache and Memory on it yet? So far I just redid the Liquid Metal and GPU thermal paste. I uninstalled a few things on the factory OS, I can’t tweak anything else. The Windows 11 is still a little bloated but not too bad, I just keep the Predator app installed. I find the Predator software to be pretty good. I have some nice profiles setup, and I can push a button to pop between them. I have a balanced profile with auto fan that I use while working during the day, and I never even hear the machine fans. I’ll look in to Aida 64 that’s a good idea. I’ve honestly been just playing on it more than actually benching it. 1 13900KF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meaker Posted 6 hours ago Share Posted 6 hours ago https://www.3dmark.com/sn/4335867 Best result so far. 1 1 1 Louqe Ghost S1 case (Top hat and bottom extension) Powercolor RX 9070 XT Reaper 16GB 32" MSI 4k 160HZ IPS display AMD Ryzen 7 7700 cooled via Thermalright 240mm AIO 48GB (2x24) DDR5 6000 CL36 Asus B650E-I motherboard 2TB T500 nvme SSD + 2TB SN770 nvme Corsair SF750 platinum SFX PSU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papusan Posted 4 hours ago Share Posted 4 hours ago 7 hours ago, jaybee83 said: take a wild guess what ill be doing tomorrow: Can't say the same for Win 11😁 New is always better. And AMD want you to think so... @Mr. Fox AMD is the Nvidia in the processor world. Low competition means AMD will charge price premium for the 3D v-cashe. Same as Nvidia do with their fake frame feature package. 1 "The Killer" ASUS ROG Z790 Apex Encore | 14900KS | 4090 HOF + 20 other graphics cards | 32GB DDR5 | Be Quiet! Dark Power Pro 12 - 1500 Watt | Second PSU - Cooler Master V750 SFX Gold 750W (For total of 2250W Power) | Corsair Obsidian 1000D | Custom Cooling | Asus ROG Strix XG27AQ 27" Monitors | Papusan @ HWBOT | Team PremaMod @ HWBOT | Papusan @ YouTube Channel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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