*Official Benchmark Thread* - Post it here or it didn't happen :D

[electrosoft]

2 hours ago, tps3443 said:

Time to put the fans back in and put doors on 😂. I’d be tempted to run that Astral in a vertical position as well. Also, time for custom loop as well. You one need (1) HWlab GTX, and fans on one side. You can make it very quiet. I run mine super quiet.  But I see why you don’t run a loop. With 9800X3D/9950X3D it seems like we can get peak performance with a fanless rock resting on it lol. 

 

The quietest fans I've ever run are still these P14 140mm Arctics. Even their newest 120mm fans I tried still have a slight whine to them. The bottom fans aren't connected as the bottom only supports 120mm fans. I just haven't taken them back out yet.

 

I still have the D5 pump and array of QDCs in the box in the closet. Plenty of places to get dirt cheap soft tubing. I do have a 360mm rad sent to me for free, but I don't want to use 360mm rads only 280/420 and quiet P14's of which I have like 10 of them already.

 

Depending on your sample and how you push it, you can get a 9800X3D pretty toasty to the point air won't work and a AIO can be pushed even with a static OC pushing 5.6ghz+.

 

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Snagged a 5070 FE from BB today to replace my wife's 3080 Strix. I was originally going to potentially move the 9070xt into her system but the performance just wasn't there for WoW especially with RT enabled and WoW is all she plays so everything is centered around her 32" 1440p 165hz display.

 

I may put the 3080 in a system of spare parts I've been building out for my daughter since she's still on the fence now about her reclaimed "man cave" from her ex fiance about whether she wants a dedicated PC or just use her laptop with the 27" 2025 Nitro 1080p 200hz display. I was going to use this spare delidded 12900k that ran for a few years in the wife's system but while testing it out it up and died on me running Y cruncher

 

I do need to source at least a 12th-14th gen CPU for this extra system I'm building out. If someone has a decent (I5 or above) 12th-14th gen chip laying around, inbox me with price.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[jaybee83]

On 4/17/2025 at 8:07 PM, electrosoft said:

Definitely going to have to give PX1 a try. I have found AB and the 5090 buggy even now especially in WoW. With the 572 drivers and newest beta AB, it still suffers from the same glitches as I found before here with the 5080 and WoW a few months ago with Rivatuner and some problems trying to push sliders or clocks dropping or getting locked. It's just being more problematic than it has ever been before with the 5000 series.

 

Don't mind my voice. I was in the throes of Covid....

 

That is why my most recent results are from GPU Tweak III, but I'll definitely give PX1 a try again especially if full memory sliders work on launch. I also like GPU Tweak III obviously because of the added Astral functionality.

 

I haven't even tested my GPU range yet lol (5080 FE still in the system atm but switching back to the Astral today). I just pushed the sliders to their max on GPU Tweak III on default settings (No OC settings) and left the PL and voltage alone for some initial Q&D testing. Did you adjust PL/Voltage levels or doing initial testing stock?

 

Another pro for GT3 is Asus also makes 9000 series Radeon cards so you get full support there too if you don't want to use AMD's tools.

 

Yeah, they've sampled me I think about 5 laptops so far over the past 6 years.  First 4 were good after testing and tear down. Last one was not good on many levels and I let them know in detail why. I think overall, Acer is coming on strong wanting to be a known and respected gaming brand.

 

Based on previous variants I've tested/disassembled, I'm not expecting much BIOS control, but I could be surprised! 🙂

 

@jaybee83

 

With eBay, I make sure to document the GPU before (Timespy run, plenty of pics with my name in it), during (I make sure to note in my listing the buyer will receive a picture of his just purchased GPU with his invoice in the picture along with a follow up QA Timespy run with the score and his invoice/eBay purchase on the same screen and while it is running I record the entire run and can provide a copy of that) and after (I take several pictures of the boxing up of their GPU at each stage with their eBay invoice in each picture) and a final picture of their package so they know what to expect). I also make sure to put in the post all items are shipped via USPS (strictest mail fraud laws) insured and adult signature required.

 

Buyers have left me only positive feedback and love being kept in the loop for what can be a pricey purchase. It also has established a long selling record for pricey items with a documented chain of events just in case someone wants to try some shenanigans....

 

I've been selling on eBay for 28 years now. A few hiccups? Absolutely, but overall it will net you top dollar for your items considering they go for ~$2400USD on eBay = $~2100-$2200 after ebay fees (You should obviously set up an eBay store for the discounts even if for one month, as the discounts will cover the store fee AND put an extra $50-75 in your pocket).

 

If you list your GPU on the forums for $2100, you will get the normal "ZOMG!! OVERPRICED BRO!!" brigade chiming in who can't or won't understand current market conditions.

 

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I just went, "that is crazy" when I read it earlier over on the forums. I have zero problems with people reselling their items and getting top dollar for them (call it scalping if you want), but buying specifically for reselling especially among the hardware community? For someone who is a firm proponent of "let the market ride as is," that just sits wrong with me a bit.

 

i started off with bone stock testing to get a feel of the card first, i.e. no voltage or PL adjustments whatsoever.

 

+3000 / 34Gbps on vRAM is still stable, and i think ive hit a stability wall at +375 on the core. anything above that, i.e. +380 and the system locks up during stress tests after about 10-15 min.

 

depending on the load and resolution im getting anywhere between 2500 and 3000+ Mhz on the core under load. max core temps always go to 68C, with fans adjusting accordingly and PL always maxed out, bouncing off the 600W limit. i sometimes see it go up to 610W or so, but the 600W limit is pretty hard nonetheless.

core voltages are again dependent on the type of load, max. im seeing at idle / light loads is 1.025V with min under load around 0.950V, im guessing i got a very non-leaky silicon that has low peak voltage. ive seen other spike up to 1.09 or so.

 

in conclusion, the 5090 is hopelessly power-starved and in desperate need of a 1kW vbios...

 

ive got two more stability sessions to go through before i call +375/+3000 stable enough for D2D. any fine adjustments / corrections in specific games notwithstanding, that is. after that ill go through my benchmark suite once more to check and see what kinda uplifts im seeing vs. 5090 stock / 4090 OC / 4090 stock.

 

oh btw, i HAVE heard some coil whine now! 😄 that was in titanfall 2 at 1080p and 600+ FPS 🤣 but even then its very slight, totally wouldnt hear it when gaming with headphones on. so nothing to worry about really.

 

as for ebay, ive also been selling there for 23 years now. the experiences are pretty much the same as yours, theres always gonna be a few hiccups / idiots here and there but overall ive always come out pretty solid. 

 

the ebay fees also arent so bad, at least not here. they are dependend on where the sale goes to, i.e. national sales are free (no fees whatsoever), inside the EU there are fees but still quite low and only when i sell outside the EU the fees go up to "standard" levels, so to say. however, im fine with that, since the overall customer audience / geographical reach is just without competition. 

[johnksss]

Got a text to get to MC. I grabbed the very last one.

[electrosoft]

8 hours ago, jaybee83 said:

 

i started off with bone stock testing to get a feel of the card first, i.e. no voltage or PL adjustments whatsoever.

 

+3000 / 34Gbps on vRAM is still stable, and i think ive hit a stability wall at +375 on the core. anything above that, i.e. +380 and the system locks up during stress tests after about 10-15 min.

 

depending on the load and resolution im getting anywhere between 2500 and 3000+ Mhz on the core under load. max core temps always go to 68C, with fans adjusting accordingly and PL always maxed out, bouncing off the 600W limit. i sometimes see it go up to 610W or so, but the 600W limit is pretty hard nonetheless.

core voltages are again dependent on the type of load, max. im seeing at idle / light loads is 1.025V with min under load around 0.950V, im guessing i got a very non-leaky silicon that has low peak voltage. ive seen other spike up to 1.09 or so.

 

in conclusion, the 5090 is hopelessly power-starved and in desperate need of a 1kW vbios...

 

ive got two more stability sessions to go through before i call +375/+3000 stable enough for D2D. any fine adjustments / corrections in specific games notwithstanding, that is. after that ill go through my benchmark suite once more to check and see what kinda uplifts im seeing vs. 5090 stock / 4090 OC / 4090 stock.

 

oh btw, i HAVE heard some coil whine now! 😄 that was in titanfall 2 at 1080p and 600+ FPS 🤣 but even then its very slight, totally wouldnt hear it when gaming with headphones on. so nothing to worry about really.

 

as for ebay, ive also been selling there for 23 years now. the experiences are pretty much the same as yours, theres always gonna be a few hiccups / idiots here and there but overall ive always come out pretty solid. 

 

the ebay fees also arent so bad, at least not here. they are dependend on where the sale goes to, i.e. national sales are free (no fees whatsoever), inside the EU there are fees but still quite low and only when i sell outside the EU the fees go up to "standard" levels, so to say. however, im fine with that, since the overall customer audience / geographical reach is just without competition. 

 

Some of these AIBs have massive heatsinks or you block them and they are screaming for more power.

 

You can always shunt mod it to get it where you want to go but I'm hoping the XOC vBIOS eventually makes its way out. 4090 seems to get it pretty quick and it was fun to play around with.

 

Which version did you go with? Stand alone or Steam? I downloaded the latest stand alone version 1.3.7 to give a whirl later tonight or tomorrow.

 

LOL, coil whine will find ya! 🤣 

 

How high can you go for short benches? You seem to take my approach. I find a sane OC for D2D and then push it for benches. My 4090 for sane D2D OC was ~ +180 +1500. For benches it was +225 / +1600.

 

I just went into GPU Tweak III and pressed the default sliders for memory and clocks as is and left TSE 3Dmark on a loop for an hour and that was that but those settings are conservative I think so I'll want to see where it really falls off the proverbial mountain.

 

As for eBay in the US, it is ~13.6% without a store and with a store it is ~7.35% in the US, so even selling a single GPU, it makes sense to set up a basic store for ~$30 for the month if the GPU is >=~$500

 

3 hours ago, johnksss said:

Got a text to get to MC. I grabbed the very last one.

 

Oh damn! Congrats @johnksss!! Blocking it eventually or running it as is?

 

And hey! Will ya look at that, NOT a Zotrash!

 

 

[tps3443]

7 hours ago, jaybee83 said:

 

i started off with bone stock testing to get a feel of the card first, i.e. no voltage or PL adjustments whatsoever.

 

+3000 / 34Gbps on vRAM is still stable, and i think ive hit a stability wall at +375 on the core. anything above that, i.e. +380 and the system locks up during stress tests after about 10-15 min.

 

depending on the load and resolution im getting anywhere between 2500 and 3000+ Mhz on the core under load. max core temps always go to 68C, with fans adjusting accordingly and PL always maxed out, bouncing off the 600W limit. i sometimes see it go up to 610W or so, but the 600W limit is pretty hard nonetheless.

core voltages are again dependent on the type of load, max. im seeing at idle / light loads is 1.025V with min under load around 0.950V, im guessing i got a very non-leaky silicon that has low peak voltage. ive seen other spike up to 1.09 or so.

 

in conclusion, the 5090 is hopelessly power-starved and in desperate need of a 1kW vbios...

 

ive got two more stability sessions to go through before i call +375/+3000 stable enough for D2D. any fine adjustments / corrections in specific games notwithstanding, that is. after that ill go through my benchmark suite once more to check and see what kinda uplifts im seeing vs. 5090 stock / 4090 OC / 4090 stock.

 

oh btw, i HAVE heard some coil whine now! 😄 that was in titanfall 2 at 1080p and 600+ FPS 🤣 but even then its very slight, totally wouldnt hear it when gaming with headphones on. so nothing to worry about really.

 

as for ebay, ive also been selling there for 23 years now. the experiences are pretty much the same as yours, theres always gonna be a few hiccups / idiots here and there but overall ive always come out pretty solid. 

 

the ebay fees also arent so bad, at least not here. they are dependend on where the sale goes to, i.e. national sales are free (no fees whatsoever), inside the EU there are fees but still quite low and only when i sell outside the EU the fees go up to "standard" levels, so to say. however, im fine with that, since the overall customer audience / geographical reach is just without competition. 

Flash the Astral bios to your Suprim and see if anything changes with load voltages. It’s good you can run +3,000 though. Some 5090’s cannot run that. Also, these cards do see transient spikes of like 800+ watts in power draw. But yeah they are just a little power limited for heavy OC in power virus applications, but honestly I think it’s just as efficient as my 4090 was, when I run my 5090FE stock the power draw is pretty low in my games in 4K. I haven’t come across any games yet that are bouncing off 600w.

If I undervolt it, it stays extremely low on power consumption. My 5090 stays low on voltage too, even lower than yours. 😃 But I love it because it barely uses power. And the default 575w is more than enough for 4K gaming for me (Even without undervolting)
 

3 hours ago, johnksss said:

Got a text to get to MC. I grabbed the very last one.

Congratulations! You’ve got the same GPU as @win32asmguy

[johnksss]

58 minutes ago, electrosoft said:

 

Some of these AIBs have massive heatsinks or you block them and they are screaming for more power.

 

You can always shunt mod it to get it where you want to go but I'm hoping the XOC vBIOS eventually makes its way out. 4090 seems to get it pretty quick and it was fun to play around with.

 

Which version did you go with? Stand alone or Steam? I downloaded the latest stand alone version 1.3.7 to give a whirl later tonight or tomorrow.

 

LOL, coil whine will find ya! 🤣 

 

How high can you go for short benches? You seem to take my approach. I find a sane OC for D2D and then push it for benches. My 4090 for sane D2D OC was ~ +180 +1500. For benches it was +225 / +1600.

 

I just went into GPU Tweak III and pressed the default sliders for memory and clocks as is and left TSE 3Dmark on a loop for an hour and that was that but those settings are conservative I think so I'll want to see where it really falls off the proverbial mountain.

 

As for eBay in the US, it is ~13.6% without a store and with a store it is ~7.35% in the US, so even selling a single GPU, it makes sense to set up a basic store for ~$30 for the month if the GPU is >=~$500

 

 

Oh damn! Congrats @johnksss!! Blocking it eventually or running it as is?

 

And hey! Will ya look at that, NOT a Zotrash!

 

 

Thanks bro.

 

I'm not so sure Zotac is actually trash this go round. They have their own 5080 450W vBios and it's sitting pretty high up the ranks.

[Papusan]

4 hours ago, johnksss said:

Got a text to get to MC. I grabbed the very last one.

 

Congrats. Only one left, wow. Is there still problem get 5090's in US ? And what did you pay? Not sure what extra tariff/or tax you pay in California. Isn't it different from State to state? 

[johnksss]

51 minutes ago, Papusan said:

 

Congrats. Only one left, wow. Is there still problem get 5090's in US ? And what did you pay? Not sure what extra tariff/or tax you pay in California. Isn't it different from State to state? 

Of course we still have problems getting 5090's. LOL

 

3059.99 was the sticker price.

[electrosoft]

52 minutes ago, Papusan said:

 

Congrats. Only one left, wow. Is there still problem get 5090's in US ? And what did you pay? Not sure what extra tariff/or tax you pay in California. Isn't it different from State to state? 

 

Tariffs are alive and well and going nowhere here in the states. The war with China is just ramping up along with all the other "minimum but temporary" tariffs on a plethora of other countries.

 

5090 prices will not be going down. The biggest fear is them going up.

 

Supply is still a problem across the board here for just about all the cards as they sell out immediately.

 

Depending on when the tariffs kick in (or are fully felt), expect prices to rise on a large swath of electronics and other items.

 

Sales tax varies from state to state on purchases from 0% to 7.25%. You then have local sales taxes that can combine to create pockets of even higher sales tax up to almost 10%

 

NJ and my county is 6.625%

California is 7.25% but Tustin, CA is 7.75% on last check

 

 

 

 

[johnksss]

Intel is about to have serious problems as well. China is kicking them to the curb for local chip manufacturing. Guess they dont want US tech in none of their goverment machines anymore either.

[johnksss]

1 hour ago, Papusan said:

 

Congrats. Only one left, wow. Is there still problem get 5090's in US ? And what did you pay? Not sure what extra tariff/or tax you pay in California. Isn't it different from State to state? 

Did you shunt mod your card already or get the tools and vbios to unlock your card?

[electrosoft]

@jaybee83 PX1 can't control the fans but sliders work including +3000. Very much power starved. I will never shunt mod but I will gladly take that XOC BIOS please.

 

576.02 Drivers.

 

WoW auto fans, +3000, +400

 

@win32asmguy  GPU Utilization 76% vs 99% cap out on all the other cards tested including OC 4090 @ 3135mhz +1500 memory (zero player data) 4k Ultra RT max. The hunt for a new testing spot continues to try to get the 5090 to GPU Util 99% even at stock in WoW......

 

 

Timespy auto fans +350 +3000

 

 

 

 

 

[electrosoft]

Deus Ex MD:

 

Stock:

 

 

+3000 / +350:

 

[Mr. Fox]

On 4/17/2025 at 11:38 PM, electrosoft said:

Deus Ex Mankind divided bone stock GPU benchmark runs.

Seriously, the 9070xt? SMH

 

9800X3D @ 5450

2x24GB tuned 2200/6400

W11 24H2 normal bloated D2D OS no tweaks

Gigabyte Gaming OC 9070xt

Nvidia 5080 FE

Asus Astral 5090

Nvidia Drivers 576.02

AMD Adrenalin 25.3.2

 

4k everything on ultra/max settings.

 

5090 is ~58% faster than the 5080 FE in this test which is pretty massive overall.

 

9070xt is performing absolutely abysmal in this test to the point I don't know if it is a driver issue or not.

 

@Mr. Fox could you run this on your 9070xt  completely stock to let me know if my results are suspect and maybe needs investigating along with your 4090 completely stock for comparison. I can't find my 4090/3090 Dx:MD results. If your results are much higher, I will need to set up another test volume for the 9070xt. I know the 9070xt on WoW is right where I expected it to be compared to the results on three different 7900xtx cards across three different CPUs and two different platforms and the 9070xt is actually scoring slightly higher than many stock 9070xt's in Timespy but again you never know.

 

Gigabyte Gaming OC 9070XT (Adrenalin 25.3.2):

 

 

Nvidia 5080 FE (576.02):

 

 

Astral 5090 (576.02):

 

Yes, but it may be a couple of days. I'm buried in projects and my office is totally torn up and I'm not able to use either system at the moment.

 

Sold the MORA dual XSPC Photon 240 D5 pumps to Brother @johnksss. Getting is boxed up was difficult. The weight was 35 pounds and I used the box the Montech AIR MAX came it.

 

Something for FE-lovers. https://www.overclock.net/threads/nvidia-geforce-rtx-4090-founders-edition-24gb-gddr6x-graphics-card.1815879/

[Papusan]

4 hours ago, johnksss said:

Did you shunt mod your card already or get the tools and vbios to unlock your card?

 

Nope. And not sure I can or will. Shaky hands and the warranty is important in the used market. 

 

Hope I with time can get an unlocked vbios.

 

4 hours ago, johnksss said:

Intel is about to have serious problems as well. China is kicking them to the curb for local chip manufacturing. Guess they dont want US tech in none of their goverment machines anymore either.

 

Yup, Intel is in trouble. Not the best product, problems with previous gen 13/14th gen + tariff war on top can be too much.

 

This is like pee in the water. Won't help much.

 

Intel begins selling "IPO-Optimized" PCs in China with up to 10% extra CPU performance with OC and patches

 

5 hours ago, electrosoft said:

 

Tariffs are alive and well and going nowhere here in the states. The war with China is just ramping up along with all the other "minimum but temporary" tariffs on a plethora of other countries.

 

5090 prices will not be going down. The biggest fear is them going up.

 

Supply is still a problem across the board here for just about all the cards as they sell out immediately.

 

Depending on when the tariffs kick in (or are fully felt), expect prices to rise on a large swath of electronics and other items.

 

Sales tax varies from state to state on purchases from 0% to 7.25%. You then have local sales taxes that can combine to create pockets of even higher sales tax up to almost 10%

 

NJ and my county is 6.625%

California is 7.25% but Tustin, CA is 7.75% on last check

 

 

Thanks for the info. I can clearly see not everything is functional in US right now. Egg prices are too low. That can't be correct, but who knows. There is always a reason people don't buy or can't buy. Either are the prices too high or there is lack of what they want. Can of course be both.