electrosoft Posted 7 hours ago Share Posted 7 hours ago 52 minutes ago, jaybee83 said: im out when it comes to shunt modding, unfortunately. as for the XOC vbios, thus far it sounds like theyre reaaaally cracking down on anyone even thinking about leaking it. plus that special sauce software that is required to control the XOC vbios, the vbios alone dont cut it anymore. *sigh* such a shame, considering what immense cooling capabilities the Suprim SOC cooler provides! 7 minutes ago, johnksss said: I would crack down as well. As a bunch of people burnt up their cards then start playing the stupid role of...Well, I didn't do anything but play a game. I never over clock and now i want you to replace it for free. They also start throwing people under the bus when they don't get the same things as other people who are in the know. They start name dropping and crying in forums. Here is a tidbit. I know exactly how the kingpin vbios got out to the masses, but i would never tell who it was. Not my place too. Bottom line is, we can't all be in the same circles as others. These are just the facts. And one has to run with the hand they are dealt, because at the end of the day....If that was you they trusted, I know damn well you are not going to be leaking anything if it meant you losing your access to all the goodies us normal people are looking for. That would be just crazy! (Just my ramblings my friend.) Couldn't have said it any better myself @johnksss. That has been the point I've been trying to get across for sometime now and you summed it up quite nicely. 3 Electrosoft Alpha: 9800X3D | Asus X870E Hero Crosshair | Nvidia RTX 5080 FE| AC LF II 420 | TG 2x24GB 8200 @ 2200/6400 tuned | Samsung 990 Pro 2TB | EVGA 1600w P2 | Phanteks Ethroo Pro | Alienware AW3225QF 32" OLED Heath: i9-14900KS SP109 | EVGA CLC 280 | Asus Strix Z690 D4 | Asus Strix 3080 | 32GB DDR4 2x16GB B-Die 4000 | Samsung 980 1TB Pro | EVGA DG-77 | Samsung G7 32" 144hz 32" MSI Raider | 7950HX3D | Nvidia RTX 4090 | Kingston Fury 2x16GB DDR5 | Samsung 990 Pro 2TB | 18" QHD | WiFi 7 Eurocom X15 Raptor | i9-12900k | Nvidia RTX 3070ti | HyperX 3200 CL20 32GB | Samsung 990 2TB | 15.6" 144hz | Wifi 6E Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaybee83 Posted 7 hours ago Share Posted 7 hours ago 18 minutes ago, johnksss said: I would crack down as well. As a bunch of people burnt up their cards then start playing the stupid role of...Well, I didn't do anything but play a game. I never over clock and now i want you to replace it for free. They also start throwing people under the bus when they don't get the same things as other people who are in the know. They start name dropping and crying in forums. Here is a tidbit. I know exactly how the kingpin vbios got out to the masses, but i would never tell who it was. Not my place too. Bottom line is, we can't all be in the same circles as others. These are just the facts. And one has to run with the hand they are dealt, because at the end of the day....If that was you they trusted, I know damn well you are not going to be leaking anything if it meant you losing your access to all the goodies us normal people are looking for. That would be just crazy! And for any of us to ask you for it would be putting you into a position you don't want to be in. So in that regard I would never ask you.(Just my ramblings my friend.) yep spot on, cannot argue against that. im 100% admitting to my double standards here. being in that position i would never leak any stuff (as ive never done before when doing stuff with bro @Prema). at the same time ill be the first to flash that XOC vbios in a heartbeat if it leaked 😄 who wouldnt want their cake and eat it too, right?! i must say tho, i dont think false warranty claims are the main issue here, i bet its more Nvidia clamping down on "non-standard" specs. as long as its limited to small circles for competitions / XOC only, its probably fine with them. but once it makes the round and reaches the masses, thats when they are confronted with the thing they hate the most - losing control. 3 1 Mine: Hyperion "Titan God of Heat, Heavenly Light, Power" (2022-25) AMD Ryzen 9 9950X3D (TG High Perf. IHS) / Asus ROG Crosshair X670E Extreme / MSI Geforce RTX 5090 Suprim SOC / Teamgroup T-Force Delta RGB DDR5-8200 2x24 GB / 4x Western Digital Black SN850P/X 8TB in 2x16TB RAID 0 / Arctic Liquid Freezer II 420 (Push/Pull 6x Noctua NF-A14 IndustrialPPC-3000 intake) / Seasonic TX-1600 W Titanium / Phanteks Enthoo Pro 2 TG (3x Arctic P12 A-RGB intake / 4x Arctic P14 A-RGB exhaust / 1x Arctic P14 A-RGB RAM cooling) / Samsung Odyssey Neo G8 32" 4K 240 Hz / Ducky One 3 Daybreak Fullsize Cherry MX Brown / Corsair M65 Ultra RGB / PDP Afterglow Wave Black / Beyerdynamic DT 770 Pro X Limited Edition My Lady's: Clevo NH55JNNQ "Alfred" (2022-25) Sharp LQ156M1JW03 FHD matte 15.6" IGZO 8 bit @248 Hz / Intel Core i5 12600 / Nvidia Geforce RTX 3070 Ti / Mushkin Redline DDR4-3200 2x32 GB / Samsung 970 Pro 1 TB / Samsung 870 QVO 8 TB / Intel AX201 WIFI 6+BT 5.2 / Win 11 Pro Phoenix Lite OS / 230 W PSU powered by Prema Mod! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnksss Posted 7 hours ago Share Posted 7 hours ago 2 minutes ago, jaybee83 said: yep spot on, cannot argue against that. im 100% admitting to my double standards here. being in that position i would never leak any stuff (as ive never done before when doing stuff with bro @Prema). at the same time ill be the first to flash that XOC vbios in a heartbeat if it leaked 😄 who wouldnt want their cake and eat it too, right?! i must say tho, i dont think false warranty claims are the main issue here, i bet its more Nvidia clamping down on "non-standard" specs. as long as its limited to small circles for competitions / XOC only, its probably fine with them. but once it makes the round and reaches the masses, thats when they are confronted with the thing they hate the most - losing control. Not quite what I hear from those in the know. And I'll leave it at that. 🙂 3 1 Maximus Z790 Apex ~ 14900KS ~ Astral 5090 / MSI 4060 ~ G.Skill Trident Z5 8800 Mhz ~ 4TB Samsung 990 Pro ~ MSI-Ai1300P PSU ~ MAG 321URX QD-OLED 32" 240Hz ~ AACH100HP Water Chiller ~ Praxis Wet Bench Flat MSI MEG X570S Unify-X MAX ~ 5950X ~ GTX 1070 ~ G.Skill 3200 Mhz ~ 500GB Samsung 980 Pro ~ Lian Li O11 Dynamic EVO Tempered Glass ~ Thermaltake 650W ~ Hwbot Profile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaybee83 Posted 7 hours ago Share Posted 7 hours ago 2 minutes ago, johnksss said: Not quite what I hear from those in the know. And I'll leave it at that. 🙂 thats aight, u likely have far more and better sources than i do in this regard 😄 just surprising to me that such would be a big issue, cant imagine the affected subset of a subset of people being so numerous: 1) ppl buying a 90 series sku 2) 5090 owners willing to crossflash their vBios 3) 5090 owners crossflashing actually running the XOC vbios daily 4) of those at 3) not doing their due diligence and getting their cards fried cuz of that 5) those of 4) that are sneaky enough to send in their cards for false warranty claims at least i hope not 😄 3 Mine: Hyperion "Titan God of Heat, Heavenly Light, Power" (2022-25) AMD Ryzen 9 9950X3D (TG High Perf. IHS) / Asus ROG Crosshair X670E Extreme / MSI Geforce RTX 5090 Suprim SOC / Teamgroup T-Force Delta RGB DDR5-8200 2x24 GB / 4x Western Digital Black SN850P/X 8TB in 2x16TB RAID 0 / Arctic Liquid Freezer II 420 (Push/Pull 6x Noctua NF-A14 IndustrialPPC-3000 intake) / Seasonic TX-1600 W Titanium / Phanteks Enthoo Pro 2 TG (3x Arctic P12 A-RGB intake / 4x Arctic P14 A-RGB exhaust / 1x Arctic P14 A-RGB RAM cooling) / Samsung Odyssey Neo G8 32" 4K 240 Hz / Ducky One 3 Daybreak Fullsize Cherry MX Brown / Corsair M65 Ultra RGB / PDP Afterglow Wave Black / Beyerdynamic DT 770 Pro X Limited Edition My Lady's: Clevo NH55JNNQ "Alfred" (2022-25) Sharp LQ156M1JW03 FHD matte 15.6" IGZO 8 bit @248 Hz / Intel Core i5 12600 / Nvidia Geforce RTX 3070 Ti / Mushkin Redline DDR4-3200 2x32 GB / Samsung 970 Pro 1 TB / Samsung 870 QVO 8 TB / Intel AX201 WIFI 6+BT 5.2 / Win 11 Pro Phoenix Lite OS / 230 W PSU powered by Prema Mod! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnksss Posted 7 hours ago Share Posted 7 hours ago 2 minutes ago, jaybee83 said: thats aight, u likely have far more and better sources than i do in this regard 😄 just surprising to me that such would be a big issue, cant imagine the affected subset of a subset of people being so numerous: 1) ppl buying a 90 series sku 2) 5090 owners willing to crossflash their vBios 3) 5090 owners crossflashing actually running the XOC vbios daily 4) of those at 3) not doing their due diligence and getting their cards fried cuz of that 5) those of 4) that are sneaky enough to send in their cards for false warranty claims at least i hope not 😄 This has been going on since 2008 my friend. And that's when i really started over clocking and modding. This is not new now that we are at the 5090 stage. As time goes on people get fed-up so they start clamping down. Another example. Our days with Alienware and the M18X line up. And how we collaborated with them and then they came back and locked us out of the next gen 18x's. You would be surprised by how may laptops came back to them for repair because of users not know what the hell they were doing with an unlocked bios. All because we tried to be nice and think we were helping when in fact all we did was dig our own graves. And then buried our selves in them. Also, to give some insight..... I have been to a few repair centers out here and the stories I have heard pretty much some up my conversation now. No one wants to be on the losing end of a mistake made. Especially if they are bragging at how great their card is doing and overclocking, then pow, card is dead. And they forgot about all their prior post on internet about what they did before the card blew up. Like the repair center couldn't find these things out. 🤦♂️. Like they quit selling Microscopes and equipment that can find out what happen. Almost like the show Cops or The worlds stupidest criminals. And the explanations they give are just flat out ridiculous. 1 1 1 1 1 Maximus Z790 Apex ~ 14900KS ~ Astral 5090 / MSI 4060 ~ G.Skill Trident Z5 8800 Mhz ~ 4TB Samsung 990 Pro ~ MSI-Ai1300P PSU ~ MAG 321URX QD-OLED 32" 240Hz ~ AACH100HP Water Chiller ~ Praxis Wet Bench Flat MSI MEG X570S Unify-X MAX ~ 5950X ~ GTX 1070 ~ G.Skill 3200 Mhz ~ 500GB Samsung 980 Pro ~ Lian Li O11 Dynamic EVO Tempered Glass ~ Thermaltake 650W ~ Hwbot Profile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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