*Official Benchmark Thread* - Post it here or it didn't happen :D

[Papusan]

38 minutes ago, ryan said:

oh ok cool guys..

 

Just got back from best buy bought a can of air.....sprayed my heatsinks should give me better temps also.

 

its just that stock with this model temps are supposed to be great kinda like the helios 300, mine had a build up of dust....ill post benchmarks of r23 and time spy..i think my old max was 10k cpu in timespy and 12000 in r23 so lets see if it even matters getting and using an air can.

I use one for cleaning similar like this. Worth every penny. Last several years 

 

https://www.itdusters.com/product/compucleaner/

[Reciever]

15 minutes ago, Papusan said:

I use one for cleaning similar like this. Worth every penny. Last several years 

 

https://www.itdusters.com/product/compucleaner/

Need to pick one of these up, been using high pressure water to clean my heatsinks for some years now. Cheaper and I guess better for environment? 

 

Makes cleaning heatsinks an all day affair 

[Papusan]

1 hour ago, Reciever said:

Need to pick one of these up, been using high pressure water to clean my heatsinks for some years now. Cheaper and I guess better for environment? 

 

Makes cleaning heatsinks an all day affair 

I don’t like use air cans because of all the water it constrains. And it’s very expensive here. My son love this air duster when he sometimes visit old papa with his laptops. Cleaning etc graphics cards is very easy with this tool. Same for fans, filters and water radiators. You can use it for almost everything 🙂

[electrosoft]

I use this model and like it very much. It really gets rid of the need for compressed air in most situations.

 

https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B09KLQ4GKV/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

[ryan]

 

it helped a little bit.....not much but im sure repasting will help...im thinking thermal grizzly without metal whichever one that is...

 

hopefully dusting thermal paste and a cooler will bring temps down

 

also I didnt mind running 4.1ghz and a gpu overclock under 80c under stress....just now that seems like a pipe dream

[KING19]

28 minutes ago, ryan said:

 

it helped a little bit.....not much but im sure repasting will help...im thinking thermal grizzly without metal whichever one that is...

 

hopefully dusting thermal paste and a cooler will bring temps down

 

also I didnt mind running 4.1ghz and a gpu overclock under 80c under stress....just now that seems like a pipe dream

 

I would suggest you to open the laptop and then blow out the dust out of your laptop because blowing just the air vents will only blow the dust deep into the laptop. Clean the fan blades with a q-tip dipped in rubbing alcohol (70% or higher). If that dont lower your temps than its the paste itself. Incase you do a repaste you gonna need rubbing alcohol anyways to wipe off the old paste. A lot OEMs uses a very cheap paste as their stock paste besides Lenovo that uses Honeywell 7950 which is better than a lot of thermal pastes in the market.

[Mr. Fox]

3 hours ago, Papusan said:

I use one for cleaning similar like this. Worth every penny. Last several years 

 

https://www.itdusters.com/product/compucleaner/

 

1 hour ago, electrosoft said:

I use this model and like it very much. It really gets rid of the need for compressed air in most situations.

 

https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B09KLQ4GKV/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

This is the one I have. I purchased it 4 or 5 years ago when Brother @johnksss recommended it. It is very powerful. You could easily damage something if you were to use it in a haphazard manner. The first time I turned it on it actually startled me for a moment.

 

https://www.amazon.com/Metro-DataVac-500-Watt-0-75-HP-Electric/dp/B001J4ZOAW

[Reciever]

2 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

 

This is the one I have. I purchased it 4 or 5 years ago when Brother @johnksss recommended it. It is very powerful. You could easily damage something if you were to use it in a haphazard manner. The first time I turned it on it actually startled me for a moment.

 

https://www.amazon.com/Metro-DataVac-500-Watt-0-75-HP-Electric/dp/B001J4ZOAW

Is it typically 110 USD?

[Mr. Fox]

59 minutes ago, Reciever said:

Is it typically 110 USD?

I have no idea, bro. It definitely wasn't that much when I bought it, but that was quite some time ago.  That seems pretty steep. If I were buying one today I certainly would not pay that much for it. What I paid for it back in 2017 was borderline too much, even though it is a pretty high end product.

 

https://www.amazon.com/Computer-Powerful-Electronic-Environmentally-Friendly/dp/B01FWSYOME

 

[Mr. Fox]

1 hour ago, Reciever said:

Is it typically 110 USD?

 

10 minutes ago, Mr. Fox said:

I have no idea, bro. It definitely wasn't that much when I bought it, but that was quite some time ago.  That seems pretty steep. If I were buying one today I certainly would not pay that much for it. What I paid for it back in 2017 was borderline too much, even though it is a pretty high end product.

 

https://www.amazon.com/Computer-Powerful-Electronic-Environmentally-Friendly/dp/B01FWSYOME

 

This looks like exactly the same one that Brother @electrosoft linked only a little bit less money. Financially, this makes a lot more sense. The one I have is good, but not worth the extremey stupid price it is fetching today. 

 

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09KKN4T3N

[ryan]

after blowing dust

 

stock

 

overclocked a tiny bit

 

so it helped the gpu scores and temps but cpu not so much im still not at 10k where i want to be

 

 

another but this time I broke 9k gpu its great and all but I have a 144hz display and need a fast cpu to push that....I spent 2300 and tbh im kinda pissed off that after 6months the performance dropped 10 percent

 

 

my best ultra fs

 

also Id like to add this beats a good 95w 3080???whats going on nvidia why are you naming a 3080 a 3080 when a not even top 3060 beats it in every metric

 

 

also I almost got 5600...really close with the best cpu score ever at least for my unit

[electrosoft]

13 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

 

This looks like exactly the same one that Brother @electrosoft linked only a little bit less money. Financially, this makes a lot more sense. The one I have is good, but not worth the extremey stupid price it is fetching today. 

 

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09KKN4T3N

 

Since getting it I rarely if ever use compressed air as it really takes care of everything. I had a rechargeable one before but it ran out of juice way too quick (~20-30 min).

 

Also, got my notify from EVGA for the KPE 3090ti:

 

 

[ryan]

9 minutes ago, electrosoft said:

 

Since getting it I rarely if ever use compressed air as it really takes care of everything. I had a rechargeable one before but it ran out of juice way too quick (~20-30 min).

 

Also, got my notify from EVGA for the KPE 3090ti:

 

 

 

 

You must be excited, curious what that gpu will get in FS ultra....probably like 30k haha crazy card bro

[Papusan]

21 hours ago, Papusan said:

I use one for cleaning similar like this. Worth every penny. Last several years 

 

https://www.itdusters.com/product/compucleaner/

Here’s the air duster I bought. And as already mentioned… I really like the Gelid Extreme GP 12w/mk pads. Hence you see they in the picture. Sorry no Crocs in that pict bro @electrosoft 🙂

 
 

I think it’s this one. Of course with 240v E.U connector for our type AC connection. I mean I paid around 50$ for it. 

 

https://www.itdusters.com/product/xpert/

[Mr. Fox]

36 minutes ago, electrosoft said:

 

Since getting it I rarely if ever use compressed air as it really takes care of everything. I had a rechargeable one before but it ran out of juice way too quick (~20-30 min).

 

Also, got my notify from EVGA for the KPE 3090ti:

 

 

The last can of compressed air I purchased was before I purchased that blower in 2017. I also have an air compressor in my garage, so there is no reason for me to purchase a can of compressed air. The moisture canned air produces is also an unnecessary point of caution that no longer exists. For the really nasty jobs when I have to work on somebody else's computer that has not been properly cared for, I use the air compressor and do the dusting in the driveway so I don't have a mess to clean up inside the house. For my own stuff, the dust has rarely ever accumulated to an extent that blowing it off makes a mess because the amount of dust is so minimal.

[Papusan]

23 minutes ago, Mr. Fox said:

The last can of compressed air I purchased was before I purchased that blower in 2017. I also have an air compressor in my garage, so there is no reason for me to purchase a can of compressed air. The moisture canned air produces is also an unnecessary point of caution that no longer exists. For the really nasty jobs when I have to work on somebody else's computer that has not been properly cared for, I use the air compressor and do the dusting in the driveway so I don't have a mess to clean up inside the house. For my own stuff, the dust has rarely ever accumulated to an extent that blowing it off makes a mess because the amount of dust is so minimal.

With the right tools you can do the cleaning so often that you don’t need have to do a full tear down of hardware due stucky dirt that can’t be removed with an air cleaner. I still smoke cigars so cleaning up before the disaster happens is mandatory. Yep, easier clean up while the dust is minimal. You save a lot time do it this way. 

[Papusan]

LOOL. ALL is a absolute single threaded performance. Yep, higher memory speed for single threaded performance. Can’t beat that. Intel know how to sell in performance to compete with next gen  Ryzen chips. A very minor upgrade to make ready for 14th gen chips and new forced MB upgrade. At least you can re-use your DDR5 sticks. 
 

“Meanwhile, Intel's next-generation CPUs will gain support for DDR5-5600 memory, which will boost the processors' single-thread performance”

 

 

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/intel-raptor-lake-leaked-slide-confirms-ddr5-5600-more-pcie-lanes

And you get those wimpy small baby cores together with the real Raptor cores in a single processor, LOOL

[Mr. Fox]

7 minutes ago, Papusan said:

LOOL. ALL is a absolute single threaded performance. Yep, higher memory speed for single threaded performance. Can’t beat that. Intel know how to sell in performance to compete with next gen  Ryzen chips. A very minor upgrade to make ready for 14th gen chips and new forced MB upgrade. At least you can re-use your DDR5 sticks. 
 

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/intel-raptor-lake-leaked-slide-confirms-ddr5-5600-more-pcie-lanes

 

That's the story they sold the gamerkidz... single-threaded silliness. That also makes it easy to sell them on low core count consumer CPU junk that enthusiasts don't want, and cheap motherboards with wimpy VRMs and fewer phases. Mediocrity made awesome... Ah, the magic of marketing bullcrap. The sheeple drank the Kool-Aid.

[Papusan]

13 minutes ago, Mr. Fox said:

That's the story they sold the gamerkidz... single-threaded silliness. That also makes it easy to sell them on low core count consumer CPU junk that enthusiasts don't want, and cheap motherboards with wimpy VRMs and fewer phases. Mediocrity made awesome... Ah, the magic of marketing bullcrap. The sheeple drank the Kool-Aid.

I won’t jump on Ryzen chips. But what Intel offer with Raptor lake is silly. They don’t even want to offer fully PCIe 5 drives support for the gamer kids. Only more of those power efficient e-cores. I expect many will jump on AMD due Intel’s greed and stupidity. I don’t even know what’s worse… greed or stupidity! But both together has to be worse. 
 

Low cores consumer chip? 16+8 is many cores, bro Fox HaHa

 

if I still can count…. This means 24 cores. Magic!

[Mr. Fox]

4 minutes ago, Papusan said:

I won’t jump on Ryzen chips. But what Intel offer with Raptor lake is silly. They don’t even want to offer fully PCIe 5 drives support for the gamer kids. Only more of those power efficient e-cores. I expect many will jump on AMD due Intel’s greed and stupidity. I don’t even know what’s worse… greed or stupidity! But both together has to be worse. 

It depends on who their friends are and what they want to believe. If their playmates on Facepoot, Twatter, Discord, TeamSpeak, Instagram and similar social circles are AMD fanboys, that's what they'll go with. If their preference is Intel, they'll go with that. It won't have anything to do with anything truly meaningful or relevant. It's all about being a groupie and gaining the approval of the leaders of the clown possee they want to run with.

[Papusan]

54 minutes ago, Mr. Fox said:

It depends on who their friends are and what they want to believe. If their playmates on Facepoot, Twatter, Discord, TeamSpeak, Instagram and similar social circles are AMD fanboys, that's what they'll go with. If their preference is Intel, they'll go with that. It won't have anything to do with anything truly meaningful or relevant. It's all about being a groupie and gaining the approval of the leaders of the clown possee they want to run with.

Seen this? And bro @Ashtrix isn’t it amusing?

Lower temps make magic….

 

“the chip netted only a 2.7% increase in performance at the highest level”

 

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/msi-kombo-strike-lowers-power-draw-temps-on-ryzen-7-5800x3d

 

And it could be AMD want to milk more…. https://www.guru3d.com/news-story/amd-might-release-and-add-ryzen-5-5600x3dryzen-9-5900x3d-(x3d)-procs.html

[Ashtrix]

1 hour ago, Papusan said:

LOOL. ALL is a absolute single threaded performance. Yep, higher memory speed for single threaded performance. Can’t beat that. Intel know how to sell in performance to compete with next gen  Ryzen chips. A very minor upgrade to make ready for 14th gen chips and new forced MB upgrade. At least you can re-use your DDR5 sticks. 
 

“Meanwhile, Intel's next-generation CPUs will gain support for DDR5-5600 memory, which will boost the processors' single-thread performance”

 

 

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/intel-raptor-lake-leaked-slide-confirms-ddr5-5600-more-pcie-lanes

And you get those wimpy small baby cores together with the real Raptor cores in a single processor, LOOL

 

 

Yep higher ST and DDR5, I think AMD will also definitely be ready because they are abandoning the usage of XMP as DOCP and want to debut a brand new AMD brand and standard. So Intel is also preparing for that.

 

The good things are more PCIe 4.0 chipset lanes while AMD is hampering their lane counts as per the old news. Also Intel is adding Maple Ridge / JHL8540 Thunderbolt 4 native now, a.k.a USB4 / 40Gbps speed I/O on RPL Z790 chipset itself ? Also Maple Ridge / TB4 demands to have x4 lanes cut for it, no bifurcation the board must dedicate the lanes. But it is 3.0x4 lanes.

 

I would like to see what Intel does for ILM LGA1700 will they fix the mounting and CPU bending or not. Also more E baby cores is kinda expected as they just want that 8C / 8P ST perf for that "GAMING" Marketing. I still think AMD's Zen4 will have a solid performance but it all depends on how they execute their plan, esp the Firmware which has been a MESS for AMD.

 

Unfortunate part is despite all these extra lanes and PCIe upgrades the damn Mainstream mobos have max 3 lanes one being the x4 electrical lane and no x8 electrical PLX lanes or x1 lanes (only few mobos have this). We are getting higher lanes AND Bandwidth of PCIe 5.0/4.0 but the damn physical PCIe slots are staying same !!

 

HBA SAS / Soundcards / 10GLAN cards / NVMe RAID cards etc...so many others we can use on PCIe expansion slots.

 

I wonder what Intel will do for Intel 14th gen Z890 chipset series..... More 5.0 lanes ? more NVMe 5.0 ? 10G LAN native ? but one thing is for sure, more E CORES LOL. Shame.

 

Also notice Intel is putting VNNI Instructions aren't those AVX512 ? hmmmm so Intel may actually put them back since AMD Zen 4 basically confirmed it.

[electrosoft]

3 hours ago, Papusan said:

Here’s the air duster I bought. And as already mentioned… I really like the Gelid Extreme GP 12w/mk pads. Hence you see they in the picture. Sorry no Crocs in that pict bro @electrosoft 🙂

 
 

I think it’s this one. Of course with 240v E.U connector for our type AC connection. I mean I paid around 50$ for it. 

 

https://www.itdusters.com/product/xpert/

 

If the squish factor is decent, I'm going to have to give the those Gelid Extreme's a try.....and the crocs! 🤣

[electrosoft]

1 hour ago, Papusan said:

I won’t jump on Ryzen chips. But what Intel offer with Raptor lake is silly. They don’t even want to offer fully PCIe 5 drives support for the gamer kids. Only more of those power efficient e-cores. I expect many will jump on AMD due Intel’s greed and stupidity. I don’t even know what’s worse… greed or stupidity! But both together has to be worse. 
 

Low cores consumer chip? 16+8 is many cores, bro Fox HaHa

 

if I still can count…. This means 24 cores. Magic!

 

Alderlake was a step in the right direction with the P cores but those additional E cores are regression....we're apparently getting more of that but overall we're getting more cache, refinements and higher clocks so a small win and much more e-fail. I'll be interested to turn off the e-cores and compare the base 8-core chip vs 8-core ADL.

 

I still wish (hope) that Intel offers a 10-core P-core only version but that is a pipe dream I'm afraid....

 

 

 

 

[Mr. Fox]

1 hour ago, Ashtrix said:

I would like to see what Intel does for ILM LGA1700 will they fix the mounting and CPU bending or not.

They should do something really simple like the Thermalright CPU frame. No need for a complex mechanical ILM with moving parts. I have one of those on both of my systems and it is the perfect CPU retention mechanism and works on the same principle as a RockitCool bare die frame except that it accommodates the IHS. Where it would suck is trying to use an aftermarket IHS. The aftermarket IHS would need to have identical physical dimensions as a stock IHS or come with its own custom CPU frame. It could still be a better IHS though. It could be made from a better material (such as solid silver, or gold plated copper), flatter, and you could keep your stock IHS looking new and unused.

41 minutes ago, electrosoft said:

 

If the squish factor is decent, I'm going to have to give the those Gelid Extreme's a try.....and the crocs! 🤣

They are not as hard as the high thermal rating Fujipoly pads, but they are not as soft as the squishy silicon pads. If you are using the Gelid pads on a laptop with already very weak contact pressure the Gelid Extreme pads could still be harder than ideal. For something like the X170 with screws and no springs, the Gelid Extreme pads should be very good. Not as good as the K5 Pro, but not as messy.