*Official Benchmark Thread* - Post it here or it didn't happen :D

[Meaker]

19 hours ago, Papusan said:

 

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Yup, for US. Not here. Maybe the tariff war force people re-think what they buy. At least they can return it within the return window. 

 

Edit. Not great time spend a lots of money you don't have. Damn sad see the direction it heads... I have seen the middle class in US will get 1% lower taxes from the ‘One Big Beautiful Bill’. Some even less. But above $200.000 and you may get 4% less tax. The winners is as always the rich that don't need to return what they already bought.

 

+10% tariffs and increased inflation from it on top of that are hard to bear/swallow. 1-3% less tax won't help much to lower the pain. The best pain-killer is as always to return what you shouldn't buy in first place. And hope you get back your money.

The rumour is this month and last month is a price lul with stock brought in before tariffs, then as that dries up as we go into back to school and christmas prices will rise again and could a fair amount.

[Meaker]

On 7/2/2025 at 6:08 PM, Mr. Fox said:

 

I just watched this video this morning on the same subject. Now they just need to figure out thermals.

 

Decent cooler/Voltage tweak/fan curve tweak gets them into safe levels. I run a slight undervolt and then a power reduction that keeps me around stock performance levels for a boat load less power which is nice at the moment.

[Mr. Fox]

1 hour ago, Meaker said:

Decent cooler/Voltage tweak/fan curve tweak gets them into safe levels. I run a slight undervolt and then a power reduction that keeps me around stock performance levels for a boat load less power which is nice at the moment.

Running with -75mV and default power limits I still see 90+ on temps running benchmarks or playing games. I've stopped using mine until I can buy a waterblock for it. If they are overpriced then I will probably sell it. It blows more hot air than I would like and the temps are much higher than I want them to be.

[Papusan]

3 hours ago, Papusan said:

Right in time before prices start stabilizes at bottom and may go creep upwards again. And I expect Nvidia will prioritize 5090D v2 for China. 24GB vram cards for 5090 prices for China at +$2000 is also a huge win. And only god knows how many real 5090 will be smuggled into China when the people see they being scammed by Nvidia with the v2. 24GB vram cards for $2000 is hard to swallow. The Blackwell gen cards will stay here yet another two years, so.... Keep track of inventory of "cheap" gamer cards to maximize profits is damn important task. 

 

NVIDIA is also preparing for a new AI accelerator for China as well, that would be a Blackwell-based GDDR7 solution, so the focus will be shifted towards this market segment. These SKUs paired with the dumbed down 5090 will keep the wheels running busy at the factories.

 

2 hours ago, Meaker said:

The rumour is this month and last month is a price lul with stock brought in before tariffs, then as that dries up as we go into back to school and christmas prices will rise again and could a fair amount.

 

Yup, it seems July is the month you see the bottom of the prices. Then they will creep upwards.

 

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[electrosoft]

5 hours ago, Papusan said:

 

Right in time before prices start stabilizes at bottom and may go creep upwards again. And I expect Nvidia will prioritize 5090D v2 for China. 24GB vram cards for 5090 prices for China at +$2000 is also a huge win. And only god knows how many real 5090 will be smuggled into China when the people see they being scammed by Nvidia with the v2. 24GB vram cards for $2000 is hard to swallow. The Blackwell gen cards will stay here yet another two years, so.... Keep track of inventory of "cheap" gamer cards to maximize profits is damn important task. 

 

NVIDIA is also preparing for a new AI accelerator for China as well, that would be a Blackwell-based GDDR7 solution, so the focus will be shifted towards this market segment. These SKUs paired with the dumbed down 5090 will keep the wheels running busy at the factories.

 

Also 3GB memory chips will surely fly off the shelves for premium/inflated prices once China has figured out how to make them work with 5090's.

 

NVIDIA Rumored To Slash GeForce RTX 50 Production To Prioritize AI Chips

NVIDIA has been busy with its AI chips in a world with rapidly increasing demand, to quench the thirst of heavily invested tech corporations. And as such, it may further reduce GeForce RTX 50 series GPU production to focus even more on its more profitable data center products.

 

How much of a reduction are we talking about? As spotted on Gazlog/Chiphell by WCCFTECH, its said total inventory levels may decrease by as much as 30%, which can mean higher prices are likely here to stay for the foreseeable future. Assuming the report is accurate, of course.

 

 

From greed to managing the world of technology...
The US administration (government) sold their soul for rare earth metals. I hope this is wrong and not correct. 

US lifts China's export ban on chip designs: They need its rare earths

 

This has an immediate impact . Through software, Chinese companies can restart stalled projects , improve existing designs, and plan new chips competitively.

 

I said it before and I'll say it again.

 

It makes no difference.

 

Prices keep dropping because no one is buying. Prices can creep up and a large margin of buyers will still not buy. Nvidia can cut supply and again no one is still buying at these prices. Those who had the deep pockets and/or early adopters have bought already. The first 2-4 months were always going to be shortage based and AIBs sure took advantage of it.

 

Supply and demand needs the demand side to cooperate at that certain price point and clearly many are not buying at the several rounds of price cuts we've already had.

 

Eventually prices will drop to a point where those who are interested enough at a certain price point will decide to pick one up but we're not quite there yet for many of the cards.

 

I tend to monitor which cards sell out pretty quick versus those which languish. Top tier brands are holding somewhat strong with their top end models, but the mid and lower tier brands  or top tier brands with their mid and lower tier models are dropping prices on the regular.

 

It's like somebody offering that proverbial sports car for $500k and slashing it over and over on the regular. Eventually someone will deem the price acceptable and buy it. Kind of like a Dutch auction.

 

 

[Papusan]

1 hour ago, electrosoft said:

I said it before and I'll say it again.

 

It makes no difference.

 

Prices keep dropping because no one is buying. Prices can creep up and a large margin of buyers will still not buy. Nvidia can cut supply and again no one is still buying at these prices.

 

And be you sure. Nvidia know it. Why produce more parts for cards that no one will buy? Just cut the production. The production capacity can be used for more profitable products than "cheap" 5090's. 

 

1 hour ago, electrosoft said:

Eventually prices will drop to a point where those who are interested enough at a certain price point will decide to pick one up but we're not quite there yet for many of the cards.

 

Yup. And when empty what then? Why should nvidia produce even more 5090s when they can use the wafers other places? Just produce after demand. Shipping takes time, and maybe Nvidia has produced what they can deliver to come ahead of the tariff hell "if it happens". Afterwards... Nobody really knows. But Nvidia is known for making money. Not for welfare.

 

 

On the flip side.... For all my US friends. Have a happy 4th of July "tomorrow". Already 4th here home🙂