*Official Benchmark Thread* - Post it here or it didn't happen :D

[Papusan]

On 7/16/2022 at 5:09 PM, Papusan said:

I have no problems whatever OS (stability). This is what you call no issues. But the issues is the OS. Not stability. Ugly and not innovative. Just a step back to old Win ME/Win 8. Can't beat ugly. Or can you? And yep, the pig reminds me all too much about Microsoft. Fits very well. One thing for sure.... We will never ever see a equal good OS as old Win 7 and the LTSC versions of Win 10 2019/2021 LTSC. All we will get is Apple copy cats.

 

Btw... I'm on the way make an 5= quintuple boot. But not sure what I will put in as the 5th OS for my pc 🙂 One thing for sure... It won't be Win 11.

 

Yep, a lot talk about OS bro @Reciever  but choice of OS is important for benchmarks who is this threads main topic (we are on topic).

Got an new ssd to put in more OS's. From what I have read. After 5= quintuple boot then we will have 6 = sextuple, 7 = septuple, 8 = octuple 🙂

50 minutes ago, Tenoroon said:

Its a long story, but I've got the motherboard working again, either my power supply is dead (which I hope it isn't) or something went terribly wrong.

Anyways, I've been trying to get SetFSB to work, but none of the clock generators work. Most of them give me errors while a few others will freeze the system or put a few random colored pixels on my monitor. Are there any other tools you guys are aware of that will allow me to up the BCLK?

Asus TurboV Core should be able to do so. An older version is probably necessary/prefered to use. But not so sure if it will works with your MB. Best bet is an older XTU version.

 

If you don't find a version that works for you in bro Fox XTU library then try mine here https://www.mediafire.com/folder/076u1ed5vbslz/XTU_Library

[Mr. Fox]

1 hour ago, Tenoroon said:

Alright, I sent the request.

It was set to anyone with the link can access but maybe that didn't work. I approved your request anyway.

[Mr. Fox]

49 minutes ago, Papusan said:

On 7/16/2022 at 8:09 AM, Papusan said:

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Got an new ssd to put in more OS's. From what I have read. After 5= quintuple boot then we will have 6 = sextuple, 7 = septuple, 8 = octuple 🙂

You probably already know this but for the benefit of anyone else reading that may not, it is always best to install the OS with only the drive you wish to install it on. All others should be physically removed or disabled in the bios. That way each operating system will have its own unique BCD/MBR. Then you can add and remove anytime you want to without having to worry about whether or not it will affect one of the other installed operating systems. If you install multiple Windows version with a previous there will be only one bootloader on one drive, and the function of all OSes will be dependent upon the presence of the drive where the first OS was installed because the bootloader for all of them is on that drive.

 

@Tenoroon if this is not the one I shared with you before, try it first. XTU 4.2.0.8 AW18

This is probably the one I gave you before, but I do not recall for certain.

[Papusan]

36 minutes ago, Mr. Fox said:

You probably already know this but for the benefit of anyone else reading that may not, it is always best to install the OS with only the drive you wish to install it on. All others should be physically removed or disabled in the bios. That way each operating system will have its own unique BCD/MBR. Then you can add and remove anytime you want to without having to worry about whether or not it will affect one of the other installed operating systems. If you install multiple Windows version with a previous there will be only one bootloader on one drive, and the function of all OSes will be dependent upon the presence of the drive where the first OS was installed because the bootloader for all of them is on that drive.

 

@Tenoroon if this is not the one I shared with you before, try it first. XTU 4.2.0.8 AW18

This is probably the one I gave you before, but I do not recall for certain.

So true. But I mean it can be circumvented if you have double partitions on each drive if I don't take wrong. And yep, a bigger chance to avoid deleting the wrong drivers also if you disconnect all the others in the bios before the install. Have been there before. But Macrium backups help on that 🙂

[Tenoroon]

I've tried a majority of the XTU versions from both of you. Anything that is 4.xx or lower says that it is "Attempted to install on an unsupported platform" and anything that is newer than 4.xx either bugs out or doesn't show anything.

I also tried Turbo VCore, but the installer says you need an Asus motherboard. I was using a new version though, maybe I can try an old version?

[Papusan]

27 minutes ago, Tenoroon said:

I've tried a majority of the XTU versions from both of you. Anything that is 4.xx or lower says that it is "Attempted to install on an unsupported platform" and anything that is newer than 4.xx either bugs out or doesn't show anything.

I also tried Turbo VCore, but the installer says you need an Asus motherboard. I was using a new version though, maybe I can try an old version?

I don't think Turbo VCore will work. Did you try install XTU with driver signing of?

 

Here is another way... https://stevetech.me/posts/intel-xtu-attempted-to-install-on-an-unsupported-platform

 

https://kallelilja.com/2018/12/workaround-xtu-attempted-to-install-on-an-unsupported-platform/

 

https://community.intel.com/t5/Processors/xtu-setup-fails-with-error-0x80070643/td-p/420610

 

Maybe re-try what worked on some of my older systems

[Tenoroon]

1 hour ago, Papusan said:

I don't think Turbo VCore will work. Did you try install XTU with driver signing of?

 

Here is another way... https://stevetech.me/posts/intel-xtu-attempted-to-install-on-an-unsupported-platform

 

https://kallelilja.com/2018/12/workaround-xtu-attempted-to-install-on-an-unsupported-platform/

 

https://community.intel.com/t5/Processors/xtu-setup-fails-with-error-0x80070643/td-p/420610

 

Maybe re-try what worked on some of my older systems

This only worked for Version 4.0.6.102, and after I restarted, XTU refuses to boot and the launcher says something along the lines of, "cannot start because of unsupported platform." I could not do the trick with version 2.1.408.35 and 3.2.0.24 as they don't use a Package Cache folder and don't have any .MSI files. I even tried installing Intel Desktop Control Center, and even that gives me the same "Cannot install on unsupported platform" error. 

I also tried the working with old_6.4.1.23 file, and that one worked, but gave me no options to change anything.

[Mr. Fox]

Just now, Tenoroon said:

This only worked for Version 4.0.6.102, and after I restarted, XTU refuses to boot and the launcher says something along the lines of, "cannot start because of unsupported platform." I could not do the trick with version 2.1.408.35 and 3.2.0.24 as they don't use a Package Cache folder and don't have any .MSI files. I even tried installing Intel Desktop Control Center, and even that gives me the same "Cannot install on unsupported platform" error. 

I also tried the working with old_6.4.1.23 file, and that one worked, but gave me no options to change anything.

I am sorry to hear that. I am not sure what to suggest at this point.

[Papusan]

16 hours ago, Tenoroon said:

This only worked for Version 4.0.6.102, and after I restarted, XTU refuses to boot and the launcher says something along the lines of, "cannot start because of unsupported platform." I could not do the trick with version 2.1.408.35 and 3.2.0.24 as they don't use a Package Cache folder and don't have any .MSI files. I even tried installing Intel Desktop Control Center, and even that gives me the same "Cannot install on unsupported platform" error. 

I also tried the working with old_6.4.1.23 file, and that one worked, but gave me no options to change anything.

Last I can think of is re-try version 5.1.0.23

 

Have you tried with different Win OS? Or is your tests done with Win 7 ? And is there another bios version for your MB you can try?

 

 

They just can't stop do they? When is enough ... Enough?

CORSAIR will include NVIDIA Broadcast capabilities into its iCUE and Elgato software.

By Hilbert Hagedoorn on: 07/18/2022 05:04 PM 

Corsoir is working with NVIDIA to integrate key features from NVIDIA Broadcast into CORSAIR iCUE and Elgato Camera Hub software. For gamers, NVIDIA Broadcast's AI-powered noise and echo removal ensures that audio has a new level of clarity and crispness.

Read more

 

Here's more nasty. But from Nvidia. Isn't it nice buy pre-built PC's? I wonder how much the OEMs saved on this new screw up...... And I expect Nvidia is damn happy they can sell their broken silicon that should be thrown in the dust bin. Ther is one word for this.... Disgusting!

 

NVIDIA Allegedly Gimps OEM Version Of Its Entry Level GeForce RTX 3050

NVIDIA partners have started to make GeForce RTX 3050 graphics cards with trimmed down specs available in pre-built PCs. This OEM variant has both fewer CUDA cores, as well as slightly scaled back GPU base/boost clocks. Otherwise, the OEM RTX 3050 is the same as the PC DIY discrete graphics card you can buy at most... Read more...

[Tenoroon]

12 hours ago, Papusan said:

Last I can think of is re-try version 5.1.0.23

 

Have you tried with different Win OS? Or is your tests done with Win 7 ? And is there another bios version for your MB you can try?

Yeah, 5.1.0.23 gave me the unsupported platform error.

I guess I could try as I'm on Win7 right now, but I don't have any spare drives with Win10 installed. I'll probably do that as a last resort though...

There are no other BIOS versions for this motherboard. Thats what I emailed the manufacturer about and haven't gotten a follow up response since. I've been trying to see if I can modify the BIOS, but nothing is working either, and a lot of it is in territory that I'm not too familiar with.

Edit:
I managed to read and save the BIOS rom, but there are no "hidden" options (besides low level C-States and an adjustable thermal shutdown temperature). The BIOS needs to be modified which is out of my realm of knowledge. I was hoping that it just needed to be unlocked, but that sadly isn't the case 😞

[electrosoft]

4090 potentially 66% faster than the 3090ti? Righteous! Thanks AMD! 😅

 

https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-geforce-rtx-4090-is-reportedly-66-faster-than-rtx-3090-ti-in-3dmark-time-spy-extreme-test

[Tenoroon]

@Mr. Fox, My K5 Pro came in earlier and I decided to see if I could get it in a medicine syringe like you had told me, I tried sucking in from the nozzle of the syringe but the stuff seems too thick. 

I am assuming you had put the K5 Pro in from the top and just pushed it all out of the syringe, but let me know if you did something differently as I'd like to avoid getting the stuff stuck. Its a lot thicker than I thought it would be; I can see how cleaning it is a pain in the rear end.

[jaybee83]

8 hours ago, electrosoft said:

4090 potentially 66% faster than the 3090ti? Righteous! Thanks AMD! 😅

 

https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-geforce-rtx-4090-is-reportedly-66-faster-than-rtx-3090-ti-in-3dmark-time-spy-extreme-test

only? i expected DOUBLE! 🤪

 

7 hours ago, Tenoroon said:

@Mr. Fox, My K5 Pro came in earlier and I decided to see if I could get it in a medicine syringe like you had told me, I tried sucking in from the nozzle of the syringe but the stuff seems too thick. 

I am assuming you had put the K5 Pro in from the top and just pushed it all out of the syringe, but let me know if you did something differently as I'd like to avoid getting the stuff stuck. Its a lot thicker than I thought it would be; I can see how cleaning it is a pain in the rear end.

ha no chance ull be able to get that through the bottom part of the syringe, definitely need to manually spoon it into it from the top. 

[Papusan]

9 hours ago, electrosoft said:

4090 potentially 66% faster than the 3090ti? Righteous! Thanks AMD! 😅

 

https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-geforce-rtx-4090-is-reportedly-66-faster-than-rtx-3090-ti-in-3dmark-time-spy-extreme-test

And 4070 should be around equal performance as 3090 Ti. Remember AMD will be able to compete more with RT (features) this time. All Nvidia have left is to try push the performance as high they can. Hence they also is forced to lift the TDP for all new cards. The main losers will be the laptop Jockey's. God have mercy with those shelling out loads of cash on castrated new gaming books.

 

Will wee see Jensen pop up with same numbers this time? Time will see.

The GeForce RTX 30 Series, NVIDIA’s second-generation RTX GPUs, deliver up to 2x the performance and 1.9x the power efficiency over previous-generation GPUs.

'Giant Step into the Future': NVIDIA CEO Unveils GeForce RTX 3000 series Gpu's

58 minutes ago, jaybee83 said:

only? i expected DOUBLE! 🤪

Better with real numbers than the lies from NVIDIA's CEO Jensen Huang. Isn't it? 🙂 

[Mr. Fox]

8 hours ago, Tenoroon said:

@Mr. Fox, My K5 Pro came in earlier and I decided to see if I could get it in a medicine syringe like you had told me, I tried sucking in from the nozzle of the syringe but the stuff seems too thick. 

I am assuming you had put the K5 Pro in from the top and just pushed it all out of the syringe, but let me know if you did something differently as I'd like to avoid getting the stuff stuck. Its a lot thicker than I thought it would be; I can see how cleaning it is a pain in the rear end.

 

50 minutes ago, jaybee83 said:

only? i expected DOUBLE! 🤪

 

ha no chance ull be able to get that through the bottom part of the syringe, definitely need to manually spoon it into it from the top. 

Yes, I did it as Brother @jaybee83 suggested. Packed it in from the large open end.

[Mr. Fox]

OK. As expected, MSI passed the buck and shirks their responsibility. Typical loser OEM, just like ASUS. "Generally speaking, BIOS update does not cause damage to memory SPD..." But, let's have TeamGroup pay for it... nice solution for MSI. EVGA FTW!

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Ticket: 850863Memory Module Damage Issue with BIOS A60 Firmware Update

Content: Thanks for your information!

Generally speaking, BIOS update does not cause damage to the memory SPD. For this case, how did you flash the BIOS, by M-flash function or software in windows? If possible, we have to suggest you seek RMA service for the memory modules. Thank you!

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Our friend at Thaiphoon Burner replied. He is such a great guy... and, very smart.

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From: Vitaliy Jungle 
Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2022 2:57 AM
To: Mr. Fox 
Subject: Re: "Thaiphoon Burner PRO Corporative Edition"

 

Hello Mr. Fox,

 

Thank you for the reports sent! I have examined the SPD dumps from your Team Group memory modules. They are both corrupted indeed. However the first module with the corrupted Part Number "ŠEAMGROUP-UD5-620›" has only 1 error in the first 512 bytes. This means DRAM and module organization, timings, voltages and other electrical parameters are not corrupted. The Part Number also needs to be fixed. As to the second SPD dump, it has more random errors in the first 512 SPD bytes. 

 

Both of the SPD dumps have a corrupted XMP header. This is why BIOS doesn't find XMP profiles.

 

Here is how the XMP header looks like in the SPD of your Corsair modules:

 

It is not corrupted like the other part of XMP bytes. And here is the XMP header of your Team Group modules:

The header is corrupted. As you can see many of the XMP bytes are set to "20". This is a "blank" code and it is related to a string code. And it is not an error.

 

So, if the Thaiphoon Burner was ready, you could restore your SPD easily. But at this moment I am unable to help you.

 

Anyway, thank you for sending me reports! I felt much better when I saw that my program is already capable of decoding some parts of DDR5 SPD without issues.

 

With best regards,

Vitaliy.

 

@johnksss@Rage Set

[jaybee83]

50 minutes ago, Mr. Fox said:

OK. As expected, MSI passed the buck and shirks their responsibility. Typical loser OEM, just like ASUS. "Generally speaking, BIOS update does not cause damage to memory SPD..." But, let's have TeamGroup pay for it... nice solution for MSI. EVGA FTW!

Our friend at Thaiphoon Burner replied. He is such a great guy... and, very smart.

------------------------------------ 

From: Vitaliy Jungle 
Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2022 2:57 AM
To: Mr. Fox 
Subject: Re: "Thaiphoon Burner PRO Corporative Edition"

 

Hello Mr. Fox,

 

Thank you for the reports sent! I have examined the SPD dumps from your Team Group memory modules. They are both corrupted indeed. However the first module with the corrupted Part Number "ŠEAMGROUP-UD5-620›" has only 1 error in the first 512 bytes. This means DRAM and module organization, timings, voltages and other electrical parameters are not corrupted. The Part Number also needs to be fixed. As to the second SPD dump, it has more random errors in the first 512 SPD bytes. 

 

Both of the SPD dumps have a corrupted XMP header. This is why BIOS doesn't find XMP profiles.

 

Here is how the XMP header looks like in the SPD of your Corsair modules:

 

It is not corrupted like the other part of XMP bytes. And here is the XMP header of your Team Group modules:

The header is corrupted. As you can see many of the XMP bytes are set to "20". This is a "blank" code and it is related to a string code. And it is not an error.

 

So, if the Thaiphoon Burner was ready, you could restore your SPD easily. But at this moment I am unable to help you.

 

Anyway, thank you for sending me reports! I felt much better when I saw that my program is already capable of decoding some parts of DDR5 SPD without issues.

 

With best regards,

Vitaliy.

 

@johnksss@Rage Set

send them Vitaliy's report, see what MSI has to say to that 😛 probably smth like: well u SURELY did something else to corrupt your RAM, aside from flashing our PERFECT INFALLIBLE BIOS! 😄 

[electrosoft]

6 hours ago, Papusan said:

And 4070 should be around equal performance as 3090 Ti. Remember AMD will be able to compete more with RT (features) this time. All Nvidia have left is to try push the performance as high they can. Hence they also is forced to lift the TDP for all new cards. The main losers will be the laptop Jockey's. God have mercy with those shelling out loads of cash on castrated new gaming books.

 

Will wee see Jensen pop up with same numbers this time? Time will see.

The GeForce RTX 30 Series, NVIDIA’s second-generation RTX GPUs, deliver up to 2x the performance and 1.9x the power efficiency over previous-generation GPUs.

'Giant Step into the Future': NVIDIA CEO Unveils GeForce RTX 3000 series Gpu's

Better with real numbers than the lies from NVIDIA's CEO Jensen Huang. Isn't it? 🙂 

 

Nowhere did I think the 4090 was going to deliver 2x the performance of the 3090ti but 66% is a pretty hefty uplift. I'm curious to see the maturation of RT equally if not more than the rasterization uplift.

 

And no way do I listen to Jensen or Lisa with their presentation numbers. When reviewers and users get ahold of their products as always performance is always less than advertised.

 

Someone doing napkin math places the 4070 below the 3080 (especially it is has the reported crippled bus):

 

Pre-launch speculation is always so much fun! 🙂

 

 

[Mr. Fox]

3 hours ago, jaybee83 said:

send them Vitaliy's report, see what MSI has to say to that 😛 probably smth like: well u SURELY did something else to corrupt your RAM, aside from flashing our PERFECT INFALLIBLE BIOS! 😄 

I already did that, but I did not copy/paste my reply to MSI when I posted their response. I gave them a copy of the invoice for replacement memory and offered to send them the corrupted modules and their response was to RMA the memory, LOL. They have not responded (yet) to the information I shared with them for Vitaliy's email. I will not be surprised if they do not respond.

[Papusan]

3 hours ago, electrosoft said:

Nowhere did I think the 4090 was going to deliver 2x the performance of the 3090ti but 66% is a pretty hefty uplift. I'm curious to see the maturation of RT equally if not more than the rasterization uplift.

 

And no way do I listen to Jensen or Lisa with their presentation numbers. When reviewers and users get ahold of their products as always performance is always less than advertised.

 

Someone doing napkin math places the 4070 below the 3080 (especially it is has the reported crippled bus):

 

Pre-launch speculation is always so much fun! 🙂

 

 

My 2080 Ti (not the best OC version) compete within top 4 for 3070 cards in TSE graphics leaderboard. So I don't think coming RTX 4070 will fall behind the 3080. And then we have Nvidia pumping up the TDP for 4000 series cards to try compete with AMD. We'll see. But my best guess... More closer to 3080 Ti, if it not beat it 🙂

[electrosoft]

3 hours ago, Papusan said:

My 2080 Ti (not the best OC version) compete within top 5 for 3070 cards in TSE graphics. I don't think coming RTX 4070 will fall behind the 3080. And then we have Nvidia pumping up the TDP for 4000 series cards to try compete with AMD. We'll see. But my best guess... More closer to 3080 Ti, if it not beat it 🙂

 

It depends. How much more can Nvidia extract with ballooning TDPs? Will we get the same meaningful upgrade as from 2000 to 3000 or will we get 1000 to 2000 which wasn't nearly as awe inspiring? Then there's AMD pushing both Nvidia and Intel to keep it real and put forth their best silicon.

 

On the other hand, I am more than happy with a ~66% uplift. That 4090 will effectively bury every 3000 series card 6 feet under.

 

I'll wait for the 4090ti fire breathing dragon to upgrade next time.

 

https://videocardz.com/newz/full-nvidia-ada-ad102-gpu-reportedly-twice-as-fast-as-rtx-3090-in-game-control-at-4k

 

 

[Ashtrix]

2 hours ago, Papusan said:

My 2080 Ti (not the best OC version) compete within top 4 for 3070 cards in TSE graphics leaderboard. So I don't think coming RTX 4070 will fall behind the 3080. And then we have Nvidia pumping up the TDP for 4000 series cards to try compete with AMD. We'll see. But my best guess... More closer to 3080 Ti, if it not beat it 🙂

 

Couple of things that Ngreedia will do, First would be the VRAM gimp on the 4070 and 4080 cards again, and push the 4090 more for that 24GB, maybe this round they will give 4080 16GB of GDDR6X but I doubt. Second is $699 4080 might not happen this round, Add the inflation (US 9.1% right now), and slowly the BTC is rising again (I hope not), so they might give it $749 or $799 price tag.

 

As for the VRAM + Cache thing, I think that will reduce the VRAM choke on 4K res but any productivity = massive hit if we have less than 24GB VRAM. Apple will brag to moon again with their Unified BS with their Pro and Ultra SoCs (irrelevant... but thought to mention).

 

Also this time note that AD103 is a new silicon created for 4080 cards (Nvidia doesn't like 3080 being 3090 in performance and really wants to avoid that with Ada) and the AD102 will remain premium only for 4090 and up.

 

Price estimates ?

4070 $559 or $599 - 300W 10GB

4080 with $749-$799, performance at 3090ti+ level - 400W 12GB / 16GB ?

4090 $1599 - 450-500W 24GB NVLink (because if they axed that SLI no prosumer will touch these cards and they will rot)

then the mid cycle milking - 4090Ti $2000 full AD102 - 650W, 4080Ti $1249 - 500W-600W

 

I think they will upgrade NVENC with Ada this round for sure, Ampere uses same NVENC as Turing. So it's 4 years old. That is going to get an upgrade for sure maybe AV1 Encoding finally ? (Ampere has AV1 decode) or H.266 (too early), this will make 4090 cards solid for the Video encoding and other Transcoding, 3D work.

 

I'm not interested in these at all. Esp given the fact none of them will have Windows 7 support and all my games list is old now as new ones I do not like the direction they are going plus these would be useless for them on top a Gen to Gen upgrade imo is not a good choice at all esp when one has top silicon GPU. Instead I would love to sell the 3090FE which is unused and grab a 3090Ti FE and run it at 350W cap.

 

About RDNA3, AMD is adding some specialized core this round for RT also the whole MCM thing rumors ended up not accurate, they are using Cache Dies and I not see them as the true GPU MCM like MI250X Instinct which is a real beast 500W 2xCDNA2 HBM dies HPC Accelerator. So I do not think AMD can grab the crown from Nvidia, AD102 will take the crown from GA102.

[johnksss]

8 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

OK. As expected, MSI passed the buck and shirks their responsibility. Typical loser OEM, just like ASUS. "Generally speaking, BIOS update does not cause damage to memory SPD..." But, let's have TeamGroup pay for it... nice solution for MSI. EVGA FTW!

Our friend at Thaiphoon Burner replied. He is such a great guy... and, very smart.

------------------------------------ 

From: Vitaliy Jungle 
Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2022 2:57 AM
To: Mr. Fox 
Subject: Re: "Thaiphoon Burner PRO Corporative Edition"

 

Hello Mr. Fox,

 

Thank you for the reports sent! I have examined the SPD dumps from your Team Group memory modules. They are both corrupted indeed. However the first module with the corrupted Part Number "ŠEAMGROUP-UD5-620›" has only 1 error in the first 512 bytes. This means DRAM and module organization, timings, voltages and other electrical parameters are not corrupted. The Part Number also needs to be fixed. As to the second SPD dump, it has more random errors in the first 512 SPD bytes. 

 

Both of the SPD dumps have a corrupted XMP header. This is why BIOS doesn't find XMP profiles.

 

Here is how the XMP header looks like in the SPD of your Corsair modules:

 

It is not corrupted like the other part of XMP bytes. And here is the XMP header of your Team Group modules:

The header is corrupted. As you can see many of the XMP bytes are set to "20". This is a "blank" code and it is related to a string code. And it is not an error.

 

So, if the Thaiphoon Burner was ready, you could restore your SPD easily. But at this moment I am unable to help you.

 

Anyway, thank you for sending me reports! I felt much better when I saw that my program is already capable of decoding some parts of DDR5 SPD without issues.

 

With best regards,

Vitaliy.

 

@johnksss@Rage Set

Hummm, mine still says both profiles are corrupted when I try to read using TB. I also hace the CRC errors as well.

[Mr. Fox]

36 minutes ago, johnksss said:

Hummm, mine still says both profiles are corrupted when I try to read using TB. I also hace the CRC errors as well.

Just to be clear, he is using a new version of TB that is not 100% working with DDR5 and the versions we have access to does not. I hope he has a version of TB for DDR5 that we will be able to get soon so we don't have to worry about this. Save a copy of the memory firmware and we're good for recovery if this is a common DDR5 issue once we have a DDR5-compatible version of TB.

 

I hope yours is not messed up, too. Given that one stick of the Corsair stopped booting, I am tempted to reset BIOS defaults and drop back down to A30 or A40. MSI can pretend the problem is somehow a failure on TeamGroup's product, but there is no way it was a coincidence. It might have been a one-off glitch that is rare, but the memory didn't decide to corrupt itself at exactly the moment I flashed A60, LOL.

[jaybee83]

2 hours ago, electrosoft said:

 

It depends. How much more can Nvidia extract with ballooning TDPs? Will we get the same meaningful upgrade as from 2000 to 3000 or will we get 1000 to 2000 which wasn't nearly as awe inspiring? Then there's AMD pushing both Nvidia and Intel to keep it real and put forth their best silicon.

 

On the other hand, I am more than happy with a ~66% uplift. That 4090 will effectively bury every 3000 series card 6 feet under.

 

I'll wait for the 4090ti fire breathing dragon to upgrade next time.

 

https://videocardz.com/newz/full-nvidia-ada-ad102-gpu-reportedly-twice-as-fast-as-rtx-3090-in-game-control-at-4k

 

 

aaaah, see, THATS the info i had in my head, 4090Ti double perf of a 3090 non-Ti 🙂 heard it on MLID YT

 

as for waiting for the 4090 Ti....hmmm thats a tough one. its release date will highly depend on what RDNA3 brings to the table. if AMD is daring to equal the 4090's performance right away and also catches up in RT performance, then Nvidia will not wait long to release the full fat AD102 die, maybe even right away together with the 4090.

on the other hand, if the 4090 is safely holding the non-RT and RT perf crown then the green goblin can wait to maximize their profits (i.e. "mid cycle milking") AND have the winner halo product.

 

in the former scenario, ill wait for the 4090 Ti, in the latter ill just grab the 4090 or 7900XT, letting me enjoy the hardware for a full year before anything else comes out. otherwise, id let that "wait forever for the next best thing" death cycle get a hold of me haha!