Official Clevo X170KM-G Thread

[win32asmguy]

12 hours ago, NBTUser said:

Thanks for the information. In looking over the offerings of laptop memory at: DDR4 3200 MHz 32GB; I have not seen any CAS Latency (CL) values lower than CL22.

Are there any SO-DIMM memory modules at: DDR4 3200 MHz 32GB; that have CL values less than CL22?

 

You could try GSkill F4-3200C18D-32GRS which is rated at CL18 without needing XMP. I was not able to get it stable in my X170SM with a 10900K but you may have more luck. Be sure to choose a kit that is dual rank and has decent tRFC.

[1610ftw]

@win32asmguy It might be worth a mention that it is possible he will have to rescue his Clevo with a programmer if the memory testing goes wrong - not everybody is as willing to take apart a laptop like you are 🙂

 

 

@NBTUser I just checked and my exact timings per CPU-Z are 22-22-22-52

 

G.Skill has an offering with the same timings;

https://www.gskill.com/product/2/197/1540866339/F4-3200C22D-64GRS

 

That may or may not be overclockable to be faster especially when you only use 2 of your 4 memory slots but you should be aware that there are certain risks involved in playing with the memory timings and going beyond the regular timings with all 4 slots occupied is probably pushing it.

 

 

[NBTUser]

  

On 6/19/2024 at 2:22 PM, 1610ftw said:

 

The Samsung is CL22 at 3200.

Thank you for the CL on that Samsung DDR4 3200 MHz 32GB (M471A4G43AB1-CWE) memory.
 

On 6/19/2024 at 5:43 PM, win32asmguy said:

 

You could try GSkill F4-3200C18D-32GRS which is rated at CL18 without needing XMP. I was not able to get it stable in my X170SM with a 10900K but you may have more luck. Be sure to choose a kit that is dual rank and has decent tRFC.

I looked up the, GSkill F4-3200C18D-32GRS, on Newegg as well as Amazon, and both have this memory listed as 2x16GB modules at CL18. For clarification, I am looking for 1x32GB module at 3200 MHz with a CL lower than CL22 (in order to have a 4x32GB configuration at max CL speed). For reference, see below the Newegg and Amazon links.

Newegg Link: https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-32gb-260-pin-ddr4-so-dimm/p/N82E16820232714
Amazon Link: https://www.amazon.com/G-SKILL-Ripjaws-PC4-25600-SO-DIMM-F4-3200C18D-32GRS/dp/B07CGY75VT

 

On 6/19/2024 at 10:28 PM, 1610ftw said:

@win32asmguy It might be worth a mention that it is possible he will have to rescue his Clevo with a programmer if the memory testing goes wrong - not everybody is as willing to take apart a laptop like you are 🙂

Thank you for the caution on the memory testing. I imagine as long as I keep my current memory modules (2x16GB) as backup; I should be ok to simply swap those back in if anything goes wrong with the memory testing, right?
 

On 6/19/2024 at 10:28 PM, 1610ftw said:

@NBTUser I just checked and my exact timings per CPU-Z are 22-22-22-52

 

G.Skill has an offering with the same timings;

https://www.gskill.com/product/2/197/1540866339/F4-3200C22D-64GRS

 

That may or may not be overclockable to be faster especially when you only use 2 of your 4 memory slots but you should be aware that there are certain risks involved in playing with the memory timings and going beyond the regular timings with all 4 slots occupied is probably pushing it.

Thank you for the G Skill SO-DIMM 3200 MHz 32GB at CL22 listing. I came across this one as well as others when searching for memory for my laptop.

 

As an update, for SO-DIMM 3200 MHZ 32GB single module memory at less than CL22: I came across the following options, and thought I would post them here for others to see and ask if they're compatible with, in addition to my own, Sager NP9672M-G0 (Clevo X170KM-G) [Intel i9-10850K (10C/20T] laptop, their own X170KM-G variations.

 

Specifically, I noticed several of these 'less than CL22' options specified a voltage of: 1.35 V; would that memory voltage be supported on this laptop?

On a related note, I've read from Amazon reviews, that some of these 'less than CL22' memory modules will only hit their advertised speed: 3200 MHz; only if: XMP is supported and enabled; otherwise they will run slower than 3200 MHz.

Is this actually the case? And is this XMP support/enabling related to which memory voltage is supported between: 1.20 V vs 1.35 V?

 

CL 16 Option(s):

Mushkin Enhanced Redline (2x32GB) [MRA4S320GJJM32GX2]*
Voltage: 1.35 V

Rank: ?

Newegg Link: https://www.newegg.com/mushkin-enhanced-64gb-260-pin-ddr4-so-dimm/p/N82E16820992006

 

CL 18 Option(s):

Patriot Viper Steel (1x32GB) [PVS432G320C8S]

Voltage: 1.35 V

Rank: ?

Newegg Link: https://www.newegg.com/patriot-32gb-260-pin-ddr4-so-dimm/p/N82E16820225319

 

CL 20 Option(s):

Kingston Fury Impact (1x32GB) [KF432S20IB/32]

Voltage: ?

Rank: ?

Newegg Link: https://www.newegg.com/kingston-32gb-260-pin-ddr4-so-dimm/p/0RM-001W-005Y8

 

Kingston Fury Impact (2x32GB variation 1) [KF432S20IBK2/64]

Voltage: 1.20 V

Rank: Dual

Link: https://www.newegg.com/kingston-64gb-260-pin-ddr4-so-dimm/p/0RM-001W-005Z9

 

Kingston Fury Impact (2x32GB variation 2) [RFIB4-32C20K2/64]

Voltage: 1.20 V

Rank: ?

Link: https://www.newegg.com/kingston-64gb-260-pin-ddr4-so-dimm/p/N82E16820242760
 

*On the: Mushkin Enhanced Redline (2x32GB) [MRA4S320GJJM32GX2]; I found this very relevant review from Amazon's listing:

Quote

Requires XMP and is only single rank...will not boot with XMP enabled
By Electrosoft in the United States on March 6, 2023
This memory intrigued me as it claims great timings at a decent price. Years ago Mushkin used to be associated with performance computing and offered many top of the line enthusiast products so I decided to give this memory a try.
Pricing wise it is right in line with most 2x16GB kits available these days and is competitively priced.
I tested this memory in 3 different Clevo laptops: X170SM-G (10th gen), X170KM-G (11th gen) and NH55 (12th gen).
The memory is stylish enough and easy to install (as are most DDR4 SO-DIMMS) but the problem is three fold:
#1. The memory is XMP only so you will need a BIOS that allows you to access XMP enabling function
It will auto boot to its default spec which is 2667mhz CL19 which is a waste of money and performance at that spec. If your laptop does not have access to BIOS and lacks manual enabling of XMP profiles and timings/voltage look elsewhere.
#2. The memory is only single rank (not dual rank) so performance is affected.
As you can see in the CPU-Z screen shot this memory is single rank only. If you want or need higher performance memory in Dual Rank configuration, look elsewhere.
#3. XMP as is will not boot and most likely requires a bit of manual adjustment.
One of my laptops does happen to have XMP and timing access via BIOS so I enabled XMP and it wouldn't boot. It just hangs. This same laptop has no problems using several other brands of 3200 DDR4 memory both SPD auto 3200 (no XMP required) and XMP required but this Mushkin simply just hangs.
If you happen to have a DDR4 SO-DIMM laptop AND it has XMP access functionality via BIOS you may encounter a boot issue and have to potentially manually adjust timings to get it to work.

[1610ftw]

I would expect but certainly not guarantee the following behavior:

 

• all these memory sticks will default to the timings I mentioned above
• if you do not mess with the bios you will be able to go back to your previous memory from those in case you have issues

You MAY run into issues trying to chase tighter timings at 3200 where you will not be able to get everything back up and running. 

 

Certainly I would expect it to be extremely unlikely to get tighter timings at 128GB but you may find success at 64GB with only two memory sticks. So while I would not think it is worth a try to do any memory overclocking with all 4 sticks there might be some potential there with only two.

 

Personally if I was after tighter timings I would at first check if they have been achieved by anybody else and also what skill level those people had and which kind of memory they tried.

The next step would be to check how easy it is to use a programmer to bring your Clevo back to life in case something goes wrong and you brick it.

 

Only then make your decision and keep in mind that faster memory will only get you so far - we are talking about relatively modest improvements in your situation even for a best case scenario.

 

Personally I would go with memory that other have running at 3200 for 64 or 128GB and be done with it but in the end you have to decide if you want to try to go beyond that.

 

Oh and last but not least I have used the latest XMG bios on mine and can only speak for that bios when it comes to supporting 128GB at 3200:

https://download.schenker-tech.de/package/xmg-ultra-17-id-xul17e21/

 

[MaxxD]

On 6/19/2024 at 10:29 AM, NBTUser said:

As a follow up, does the Sager NP9672M-G0 (Clevo X170KM-G) [Intel i9-10850K (10C/20T] support XMP?

I am asking because I want to see if this laptop allows XMP to be enabled for memory overclocking; specifically, with memory (SO-DIMM) at DDR4 3200 MHz 32GB?

 

Thanks for the information. In looking over the offerings of laptop memory at: DDR4 3200 MHz 32GB; I have not seen any CAS Latency (CL) values lower than CL22.

Are there any SO-DIMM memory modules at: DDR4 3200 MHz 32GB; that have CL values less than CL22?

 

Thanks for the suggestion. I took a look at the links provided, and it seems from the first link that the CL value for that memory, Samsung DDR4 3200 MHz 32GB (M471A4G43AB1-CWE); is not specified. Would you happen to know what the CL value is for that memory?

 

2x32GB DDR4 3200MHz CL20

I have such a KIT for the SM-G model and it works with car 3200MHz CL20!   2 more will arrive next week!  I'm sure it will run without problems automatically at 4x32GB DDR4 3200MHz CL20...

 

2x16GB DDR4 3200MHz CL20

I have 4x16GB of this Kingston package on my other X170SM-G machine and it runs without problems at 3200MHz CL20!  (with i9-10900K processor!)

[1610ftw]

15 hours ago, MaxxD said:

 

2x32GB DDR4 3200MHz CL20

I have such a KIT for the SM-G model and it works with car 3200MHz CL20!   2 more will arrive next week!  I'm sure it will run without problems automatically at 4x32GB DDR4 3200MHz CL20...

 

2x16GB DDR4 3200MHz CL20

I have 4x16GB of this Kingston package on my other X170SM-G machine and it runs without problems at 3200MHz CL20!  (with i9-10900K processor!)

 

Nice and at only 1.2V!

 

After a quick search of my own I was surprised that there is even a CL18 memory from Mushkin:

https://www.poweredbymushkin.com/Home/index.php/products2/item/130-ddr4/1581-mra4s320gjjm32gx2?ic=1

 

and I did not find it on their site but they go as low as CL16:

 

https://www.amazon.com/Mushkin-Redline-Notebook-Dual-Channel-MRA4S320GJJM16GX2/dp/B08QHMYCK3?th=1

 

I have no experience with them whatsoever but it looks to me like this memory runs with tighter timings and higher voiltage directly from the manufacturer probably via an XMP profile so it is a bit of a long shot that this will work.

 

According to Amazon mixed reviews, working for some but not for others:

https://www.amazon.com/product-reviews/B08QHMYCK3/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_viewopt_sr?ie=UTF8&filterByStar=all_stars&reviewerType=all_reviews&formatType=current_format&pageNumber=1#reviews-filter-bar

 

So CL16 is probably a bit too ambitious...

[MaxxD]

1 hour ago, 1610ftw said:

 

Nice and at only 1.2V!

 

After a quick search of my own I was surprised that there is even a CL18 memory from Mushkin:

https://www.poweredbymushkin.com/Home/index.php/products2/item/130-ddr4/1581-mra4s320gjjm32gx2?ic=1

 

and I did not find it on their site but they go as low as CL16:

 

https://www.amazon.com/Mushkin-Redline-Notebook-Dual-Channel-MRA4S320GJJM16GX2/dp/B08QHMYCK3?th=1

 

I have no experience with them whatsoever but it looks to me like this memory runs with tighter timings and higher voiltage directly from the manufacturer probably via an XMP profile so it is a bit of a long shot that this will work.

 

According to Amazon mixed reviews, working for some but not for others:

https://www.amazon.com/product-reviews/B08QHMYCK3/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_viewopt_sr?ie=UTF8&filterByStar=all_stars&reviewerType=all_reviews&formatType=current_format&pageNumber=1#reviews-filter-bar

 

So CL16 is probably a bit too ambitious...

 

I think Kingston is a good product!  CL20 is very good and (for me) I don't need more than that, especially with a voltage of 1.2v

 

That Mushkin brand is unknown to me.  I'll stick with the Kingston brand.

[1610ftw]

Just now, MaxxD said:

 

I think Kingston is a good product!  CL20 is very good and (for me) I don't need more than that, especially with a voltage of 1.2v

 

That Mushkin brand is unknown to me.  I'll stick with the Kingston brand.

 

Yep, that Kingston memory is much more likely to work within specs than the Mushkin that seems to be hit and miss and it also needs more voltage. It MAY work with 64GB of memory but I would be very surprised if it works with 128GB.

 

Looking forward to hear if you can sustain that CL20 timing with 128GB!

 

 

 

[MaxxD]

5 hours ago, 1610ftw said:

 

Yep, that Kingston memory is much more likely to work within specs than the Mushkin that seems to be hit and miss and it also needs more voltage. It MAY work with 64GB of memory but I would be very surprised if it works with 128GB.

 

Looking forward to hear if you can sustain that CL20 timing with 128GB!

 

 

 

 

Yes!
I think the spec is even better with Kingston memory OC at 1.35v. would remain operational!

It will be revealed next week and everything will depend on the IMC...😀💪

[kela-slk]

Link on Sager bios is NOT Working! Please upload on Google drive, or on site. How many more times do I have to ask? a lot of talk about memory and no one can load the BIOS!

[1610ftw]

12 hours ago, kela-slk said:

Link on Sager bios is NOT Working! Please upload on Google drive, or on site. How many more times do I have to ask? a lot of talk about memory and no one can load the BIOS!

 

You may want to tone down your posts and try to be nice although this obviously will take some effort 😄

 

I posted the link to the bios I use a few posts ago (XMG) but if you are looking for a different reseller bios that is not posted online it is not that likely that people have it as most users use either the last plain vanilla Clevo bios or the XMG version.

[MaxxD]

On 6/21/2024 at 10:37 AM, 1610ftw said:

 

Yep, that Kingston memory is much more likely to work within specs than the Mushkin that seems to be hit and miss and it also needs more voltage. It MAY work with 64GB of memory but I would be very surprised if it works with 128GB.

 

Looking forward to hear if you can sustain that CL20 timing with 128GB!

 

 

 

 

The 4x32GB DDR4 3200MHz CL20 RAM (Kingston), which is 4 identical modules, works without any problems.
I checked the BIOS and there is a good setting for this RAM module, 3200MHz CL17 (but I'd rather not check it)😄

 

 

 

 

[NBTUser]

7 minutes ago, MaxxD said:

 

The 4x32GB DDR4 3200MHz CL20 RAM (Kingston), which is 4 identical modules, works without any problems.
I checked the BIOS and there is a good setting for this RAM module, 3200MHz CL17 (but I'd rather not check it)😄

 

 

 

 

That's awesome to hear and see (thanks for the pics).

Would you be able to take a pic of the "good setting for this RAM module, 3200 MHz CL17"?

For context, I am asking because I'd liked to check if my: Sager NP9672M-G0 (Clevo X170KM-G) [Intel i9-10850K (10C/20T]; has a similar option in the BIOS. Thanks so much for the update! 🙂

[MaxxD]

11 hours ago, NBTUser said:

That's awesome to hear and see (thanks for the pics).

Would you be able to take a pic of the "good setting for this RAM module, 3200 MHz CL17"?

For context, I am asking because I'd liked to check if my: Sager NP9672M-G0 (Clevo X170KM-G) [Intel i9-10850K (10C/20T]; has a similar option in the BIOS. Thanks so much for the update! 🙂

 

Link (Picture)

I only looked at it yesterday, but today, looking more closely, it was XMP Profile and not 3200MHz, only 2933 (CL17), but it will definitely work because it is XMP Profile and can be selected. Values can also be entered manually, but I don't think there is a shortage (yet)😊

 

 

[kela-slk]

On 6/22/2024 at 2:22 PM, 1610ftw said:

 

You may want to tone down your posts and try to be nice although this obviously will take some effort 😄

 

I posted the link to the bios I use a few posts ago (XMG) but if you are looking for a different reseller bios that is not posted online it is not that likely that people have it as most users use either the last plain vanilla Clevo bios or the XMG version.

Perhaps you misunderstood me, I didn’t want to offend anyone. but apparently it’s hard to update the link? xmg BIOS does not have a cpu overclocking menu. Install  10900k and I can’t set the TDP CPU to the values whatI need through this unfinished xmg bios. I have to use XTU or Throttlestop every time, which is generally inconvenient. The stock origin pc bios with the menu unlocked is much better. I think no one here will tell how to make a BIOS backup, so there’s no point in asking. 

 

yes, I was counting on more help than a message about the tone...

[kela-slk]

On 6/25/2024 at 12:55 AM, MaxxD said:

 

The 4x32GB DDR4 3200MHz CL20 RAM (Kingston), which is 4 identical modules, works without any problems.
I checked the BIOS and there is a good setting for this RAM module, 3200MHz CL17 (but I'd rather not check it)😄

 

 

 

 

if this is a thread for discussing x170km why is there a discussion about x170sm?

I'm happy for the owner of 170sm but i have 170km. 

[giltheone]

3 hours ago, kela-slk said:

Perhaps you misunderstood me, I didn’t want to offend anyone. but apparently it’s hard to update the link? [...]

 

yes, I was counting on more help than a message about the tone...

 

3 hours ago, kela-slk said:

if this is a thread for discussing x170km why is there a discussion about x170sm?

I'm happy for the owner of 170sm but i have 170km. 

Look, you seem to be complaining, that's why @1610ftw mentioned something about your tone --- in a lighthearted fashion, I think. Relax.

Also, I did mention I could share what I was given; you could have messaged me, as I am a tad busy and just kept on forgetting --- I wasn't ignoring you, just that there are other preoccupations on my mind.

Here you have the link for the Sager BIOS that @crz shared with me. And here is the link for the Clevo BIOS (and a bunch of other stuff) that also @crz shared. Tell me if they work, just in case the permissions weren't set properly for the links.

[kela-slk]

4 hours ago, giltheone said:

 

Look, you seem to be complaining, that's why @1610ftw mentioned something about your tone --- in a lighthearted fashion, I think. Relax.

Also, I did mention I could share what I was given; you could have messaged me, as I am a tad busy and just kept on forgetting --- I wasn't ignoring you, just that there are other preoccupations on my mind.

Here you have the link for the Sager BIOS that @crz shared with me. And here is the link for the Clevo BIOS (and a bunch of other stuff) that also @crz shared. Tell me if they work, just in case the permissions weren't set properly for the links.

Thanks bro! Finally someone looks attention to me! I'm grateful for the links, they work. Thanks everyone, the issue is closed 😉

[giltheone]

On 6/26/2024 at 12:02 AM, kela-slk said:

Thanks bro! Finally someone looks attention to me! I'm grateful for the links, they work. Thanks everyone, the issue is closed 😉

May I now ask you a favor? If you flash the Sager bios, would you tell me how it goes? I haven't had a chance to do so myself, being busy with other stuff, and I don't want to rush it and make a mistake because of it.

(Among other things, I have a lot of stuff that I've had to migrate to the EON17-X from my old GT72, and I've been copying things from the SSDs directly, since my GT72 is on the fritz for now, so I can't use my home network to transfer them, so this has taken a lot of my time, among other things.)

[NBTUser]

I ordered the following memory which just arrived:

Kingston Fury Impact (2x32GB variation 1) [KF432S20IBK2/64]

Voltage: 1.20 V

Link: https://www.newegg.com/kingston-64gb-260-pin-ddr4-so-dimm/p/0RM-001W-005Z9

 

Is there any guide for installing/upgrading memory on this laptop: Sager NP9672M-G0 (Clevo X170KM-G) [Intel i9-10850K (10C/20T]?

 

 

[MaxxD]

3 hours ago, NBTUser said:

I ordered the following memory which just arrived:

Kingston Fury Impact (2x32GB variation 1) [KF432S20IBK2/64]

Voltage: 1.20 V

Link: https://www.newegg.com/kingston-64gb-260-pin-ddr4-so-dimm/p/0RM-001W-005Z9

 

Is there any guide for installing/upgrading memory on this laptop: Sager NP9672M-G0 (Clevo X170KM-G) [Intel i9-10850K (10C/20T]?

 

 

 

You remove the back cover and there are 2 memory slots.  There are 2 memory slots under the keyboard too! (it can be snapped out after removing the 2 screws) and you put the memory modules in place (unclip the two old ones first and take them out), then snap it off.  If it doesn't work the first time (after switching on), then you swap the two in the socket!

 

☝️ The battery must be removed and the machine must not be connected to the mains before you start it and you must not be ESD charged either!  IMPORTANT! ☝️

 

That's about it, good luck!🤗😉👌

[electrosoft]

On 6/21/2024 at 2:55 AM, 1610ftw said:

 

Nice and at only 1.2V!

 

After a quick search of my own I was surprised that there is even a CL18 memory from Mushkin:

https://www.poweredbymushkin.com/Home/index.php/products2/item/130-ddr4/1581-mra4s320gjjm32gx2?ic=1

 

and I did not find it on their site but they go as low as CL16:

 

https://www.amazon.com/Mushkin-Redline-Notebook-Dual-Channel-MRA4S320GJJM16GX2/dp/B08QHMYCK3?th=1

 

I have no experience with them whatsoever but it looks to me like this memory runs with tighter timings and higher voiltage directly from the manufacturer probably via an XMP profile so it is a bit of a long shot that this will work.

 

According to Amazon mixed reviews, working for some but not for others:

https://www.amazon.com/product-reviews/B08QHMYCK3/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_viewopt_sr?ie=UTF8&filterByStar=all_stars&reviewerType=all_reviews&formatType=current_format&pageNumber=1#reviews-filter-bar

 

So CL16 is probably a bit too ambitious...

 

I tried the Mushkin kit last march (2023) and it requires XMP / manual timings access and was only single rank for the 2x16GB kit. I ended up sending it back. I left a review on Amazon about it:

 

[Clamibot]

On 6/19/2024 at 3:29 AM, NBTUser said:

As a follow up, does the Sager NP9672M-G0 (Clevo X170KM-G) [Intel i9-10850K (10C/20T] support XMP?

I am asking because I want to see if this laptop allows XMP to be enabled for memory overclocking; specifically, with memory (SO-DIMM) at DDR4 3200 MHz 32GB?

 

Thanks for the information. In looking over the offerings of laptop memory at: DDR4 3200 MHz 32GB; I have not seen any CAS Latency (CL) values lower than CL22.

Are there any SO-DIMM memory modules at: DDR4 3200 MHz 32GB; that have CL values less than CL22?

 

Thanks for the suggestion. I took a look at the links provided, and it seems from the first link that the CL value for that memory, Samsung DDR4 3200 MHz 32GB (M471A4G43AB1-CWE); is not specified. Would you happen to know what the CL value is for that memory?

 

My kit is a Crucial Ballistix 3200 MHz CL16 kit with 2 16GB modules (so 32 GB total). The XMP profile works perfectly in my X170SM-G. I don't know if anyone still sells it but the part number is BL2K16G32C16S4B if you want to search around for it. The voltage is 1.35 volts like that Mushkin kit. Voltages up to 1.5 volts are safe long term for DDR4.

[NBTUser]

On 6/20/2024 at 5:09 AM, 1610ftw said:

Oh and last but not least I have used the latest XMG bios on mine and can only speak for that bios when it comes to supporting 128GB at 3200:

https://download.schenker-tech.de/package/xmg-ultra-17-id-xul17e21/

Thanks for the information; does the XMG BIOS support XMP to be enabled?

 

I am asking because my current Sager BIOS does not have a 'XMP enabled' option. For reference, I have listed below the information on my Sager BIOS for my: Sager NP9672M-G0 (Clevo X170KM-G) [Intel i9-10850K (10C/20T]; along with an image of it.

BIOS(/laptop) manufacturer: Sager BIOS

BIOS make: Insyde

BIOS model: InsydeH2

BIOS version: 1.07.04LS1

KBC (Keyboard Controller)/EC (Embedded Controller) Version: 1.07.02

ME (Management Engine) FW (Firmware) Version: 15.0.21.1549

 

Sager BIOS - Insyde InsydeH2 BIOS - v1.07.04LS1:

 

On 6/20/2024 at 11:33 AM, MaxxD said:

2x32GB DDR4 3200MHz CL20

I have such a KIT for the SM-G model and it works with car 3200MHz CL20!   2 more will arrive next week!  I'm sure it will run without problems automatically at 4x32GB DDR4 3200MHz CL20...

 

2x16GB DDR4 3200MHz CL20

I have 4x16GB of this Kingston package on my other X170SM-G machine and it runs without problems at 3200MHz CL20!  (with i9-10900K processor!)

That is great to hear that you're testing 4x32GB DDR4 32000MHz CL20 in your X170SM-G.

It's also good to hear that 4x16GB (64 GB) DDR4 32000MHz CL20 runs without problems in your other X170SM-G; thanks for the info.

For reference, I will also be testing: 32GB DDR4 3200 MHz CL20; in my Sager NP9672M-G0 (Clevo X170KM-G) [Intel i9-10850K (10C/20T] laptop using: Kingston Fury Impact (2x32GB variation 1) [KF432S20IBK2/64]; first at 2x32GB (64 GB) then at 4x32GB (128 GB).

 

On 6/21/2024 at 2:55 AM, 1610ftw said:

Nice and at only 1.2V!

 

After a quick search of my own I was surprised that there is even a CL18 memory from Mushkin:

https://www.poweredbymushkin.com/Home/index.php/products2/item/130-ddr4/1581-mra4s320gjjm32gx2?ic=1

 

and I did not find it on their site but they go as low as CL16:

 

https://www.amazon.com/Mushkin-Redline-Notebook-Dual-Channel-MRA4S320GJJM16GX2/dp/B08QHMYCK3?th=1

 

I have no experience with them whatsoever but it looks to me like this memory runs with tighter timings and higher voiltage directly from the manufacturer probably via an XMP profile so it is a bit of a long shot that this will work.

 

According to Amazon mixed reviews, working for some but not for others:

https://www.amazon.com/product-reviews/B08QHMYCK3/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_viewopt_sr?ie=UTF8&filterByStar=all_stars&reviewerType=all_reviews&formatType=current_format&pageNumber=1#reviews-filter-bar

 

So CL16 is probably a bit too ambitious...

The first link and second link refer to the same SO-DIMM: Mushkin Enhanced Redline (2x32GB) [MRA4S320GJJM32GX2]. Note, the CAS Latency (CL) for this SO-DIMM is 16, but the individual timings are: 16-18-18-38; hence both the 16 and 18 figures referenced. For reference, the specifications for this SO-DIMM can be seen from the SO-DIMM link listed in my previous post by clicking on the 'Specs' tab in the middle of the page linked. For reference, this link has been relisted below.

Mushkin Enhanced Redline (2x32GB) [MRA4S320GJJM32GX2] Newegg Link: https://www.newegg.com/mushkin-enhanced-64gb-260-pin-ddr4-so-dimm/p/N82E16820992006

 

On 6/21/2024 at 9:41 AM, MaxxD said:

Yes!
I think the spec is even better with Kingston memory OC at 1.35v. would remain operational!

It will be revealed next week and everything will depend on the IMC...😀💪

What is 'IMC'?

 

On 6/24/2024 at 5:55 PM, MaxxD said:

The 4x32GB DDR4 3200MHz CL20 RAM (Kingston), which is 4 identical modules, works without any problems.
I checked the BIOS and there is a good setting for this RAM module, 3200MHz CL17 (but I'd rather not check it)😄

 

 

 

That's great to hear that 4x32GB DDR4 3200MHz CL20 RAM (Kingston) works in your X170SM-G. In looking over your images, it appears to confirm that the: Kingston Fury Impact (2x32GB variation 1) [KF432S20IBK2/64]; is dual rank; as your part number (KF3200C20S4/32GX) matches my part number.

Also in looking over the images, it looks like your laptop specifically is the zTecPC X170SM-G with PremaMod BIOS?

I am asking because I had heard that the zTecPC X170KM-G was supposed to have the PremaMod BIOS; although, I don't know if that BIOS mod was ever released. Does anyone know if the zTecPC X170KM-G Prema BIOS mod was ever released?

 

On 6/25/2024 at 6:09 AM, MaxxD said:

Link (Picture)

I only looked at it yesterday, but today, looking more closely, it was XMP Profile and not 3200MHz, only 2933 (CL17), but it will definitely work because it is XMP Profile and can be selected. Values can also be entered manually, but I don't think there is a shortage (yet)😊

Thanks for the picture. I don't see that option in my Sager BIOS (InsydeH20 version 1.07.04LS1), so I don't think my BIOS supports/has 'XMP enabled' as an option.

 

On 6/27/2024 at 10:56 PM, MaxxD said:

You remove the back cover and there are 2 memory slots.  There are 2 memory slots under the keyboard too! (it can be snapped out after removing the 2 screws) and you put the memory modules in place (unclip the two old ones first and take them out), then snap it off.  If it doesn't work the first time (after switching on), then you swap the two in the socket!

 

☝️ The battery must be removed and the machine must not be connected to the mains before you start it and you must not be ESD charged either!  IMPORTANT! ☝️

 

That's about it, good luck!🤗😉👌

Thanks for the guidance and luck; I followed the guidance and was able to complete the installation. 🙂

I'm happy to report that I successfully installed the: Kingston Fury Impact (2x32GB variation 1) [KF432S20IBK2/64]; in to my: Sager NP9672M-G0 (Clevo X170KM-G) [Intel i9-10850K (10C/20T]; laptop. For context, the BIOS in my laptop is the: Sager BIOS (InsydeH20 version 1.07.04LS1).

For reference, I have listed below the CPU-Z images for this laptop memory.

I also came across this helpful YouTube video showing how to change the two back SO-DIMM memory modules on a X170KM-G; I've linked this video below as a reference for others.

Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDveihNB6Nw

 

On 6/28/2024 at 5:09 AM, electrosoft said:

I tried the Mushkin kit last march (2023) and it requires XMP / manual timings access and was only single rank for the 2x16GB kit. I ended up sending it back. I left a review on Amazon about it:

Thanks for the Amazon review; it is informative and appreciated.

Were you ever able to get XMP to be enabled on your X170KM-G (11th gen)? If so, how? Did you have to use a specific BIOS brand/version?

 

10 hours ago, Clamibot said:

My kit is a Crucial Ballistix 3200 MHz CL16 kit with 2 16GB modules (so 32 GB total). The XMP profile works perfectly in my X170SM-G. I don't know if anyone still sells it but the part number is BL2K16G32C16S4B if you want to search around for it. The voltage is 1.35 volts like that Mushkin kit. Voltages up to 1.5 volts are safe long term for DDR4.

Thank you for the feedback on the: Crucial Ballistix 3200 MHz CL16 kit 2x16GB (32GB) [BL2K16G32C16S4B] modules; currently, I am only looking for SO-DIMM memory at: 32000MHz and 32 GB; single module with CL ratings less than CL22.

Does Crucial have a SO-DIMM memory module at: 3200 MHz 32GB (1x32GB) with a CL less than 22?

What laptop brand and what BIOS is your X170SM-G?

For context, it is my understanding that both the: X170SM-G and X170KM-G; at stock BIOS (from Clevo) do not support XMP. If this is not the case; please let me know.

[MaxxD]

Yes, it works without any problems.
The zTecpc machine has Prema BIOS, but the PCSpecialist machine has their own BIOS.
There I noticed that XMP automatically detects and applies it!

In the case of an i5-10400F CPU, the 3200MHz CL20 RAM runs at 2666MHz CL17.
In the case of i9-10900K, the memory runs at 3200MHz (It automatically detects and sets it!)

 

What is IMC? 🙂

"Integrated Memory Controller" (IMC)

 

UI:

As far as I know, the Prema BIOS was not completed for the X170KM-G machine and was only completed and tested for the X170SM-G machine, it works 100% perfectly.