Laptop Benchmark Thread: Post here

[1610ftw]

1 hour ago, anassa said:

 

Oh interesting. I thought my 1080 was a 200w, but I am now pretty sure it is 180w.  I found one that seems to be 190w so I will try that one too.  I am power limited, if I don't OC the Mem, and only core I can break 2000mhz just barely for a timespy run but then it crashed right at the end.  If I add any type of overclock on the Mem it will crash right away. But I drop core OC then I can easily OC the mem +450 or more.  I have not broken 8k yet, so I will give those a try and see if I can crank 8k graphics score on timespy.

Dropping the voltage of the 8700k to 1.1v kept thermals in control enough to do a ~8200 CPU score so if I can just break 8k on the GPU I should be able to have an 8k+ overall score also for the 8700k / 1080 combo. See if I can pass up johnksss or MrFox on the combo score.

 

Have you checked with HWInfo regarding the GPU?

 

For some reason with our P870TM I cannot break 8000 even with the 200W bios, it is a bit strange.

 

I also have another strange effect with an Alienware Area 51 with the 2080 where I am stuck at a max of 11500 at both 180 and 200W bios - nothing really happened after switching to the 200W bios.

 

Time to have a closer look at that GPU I guess.

 

 

 

 

 

[ryan]

its not uncommon. I had a 115w 3060 and flashed a 140w bios I got a stock bump and it allowed for equal overlcocks but even at the same overclocks i was getting a higher score only 2-3 percent more, in the end unless you have a golden sample its pointless. you wont get top 10 in 3d mark and in games you wont be say going from 45fps to the magic 60. but it is fun pushing a system. i'd like to add I have been overclocking laptops for 20 years and the one thing is when you overvolt and play with wattage the card will not last as long, iv'e had 3 laptop gpus burn out from overclocking and overvolting. with my omen 16 iv'e been running 140w for about a year or so and now im seeing artifacts with slight overclocks. do not do this unless you plan on using your laptop as a doorstop or upgrading each year.

[aldarxt]

10 minutes ago, ryan said:

its not uncommon. I had a 115w 3060 and flashed a 140w bios I got a stock bump and it allowed for equal overlcocks but even at the same overclocks i was getting a higher score only 2-3 percent more, in the end unless you have a golden sample its pointless. you wont get top 10 in 3d mark and in games you wont be say going from 45fps to the magic 60. but it is fun pushing a system. i'd like to add I have been overclocking laptops for 20 years and the one thing is when you overvolt and play with wattage the card will not last as long, iv'e had 3 laptop gpus burn out from overclocking and overvolting. with my omen 16 iv'e been running 140w for about a year or so and now im seeing artifacts with slight overclocks. do not do this unless you plan on using your laptop as a doorstop or upgrading each year.

UGH!!! It like an obsessive compulsive disorder except in order

[raptorddd]

does benchmark requires certain hardware.? tried yesterday and it didnt run. was just curios...

[aldarxt]

7 hours ago, raptorddd said:

does benchmark requires certain hardware.? tried yesterday and it didnt run. was just curios...

What benchmark did you run? There are many, many benchmarks for testing your hardware. 3DMark you must have a Nvidia or AMD graphics card. CPU-Z you can test your CPU. Others test your HDD/SSD

[raptorddd]

2 hours ago, aldarxt said:

What benchmark did you run? There are many, many benchmarks for testing your hardware. 3DMark you must have a Nvidia or AMD graphics card. CPU-Z you can test your CPU. Others test your HDD/SSD

the time spy it says checking system along those lines and gave error..

have quadro 2000m fermi. and 2nd gen cpu.

[aldarxt]

18 hours ago, raptorddd said:

the time spy it says checking system along those lines and gave error..

have quadro 2000m fermi. and 2nd gen cpu.

What DirectX do you have? Go check out https://benchmarks.ul.com/legacy-benchmarks

and try older ones. Use the serial # to unlock full version. I have them all, the last one I ran was Vantage, but just to see which works for your PC

[raptorddd]

7 hours ago, aldarxt said:

What DirectX do you have? Go check out https://benchmarks.ul.com/legacy-benchmarks

and try older ones. Use the serial # to unlock full version. I have them all, the last one I ran was Vantage, but just to see which works for your PC

dx12. yes i was able to install the second one. i usually use valley benchmark

[ryan]

all i did was move my laptop from my living room to my bedroom and my temps are 10-20c higher now and I cant seem to tame them, frustrating. 70c underclocked/undervolted vs 50c before. hp omen fan control doesnt seem to be working on cpu and gpu fans, I reinstalled windows with no luck. hopefully I can sort this out as my framerates have also dropped.

 

on a happy note rdr2 I jumped into that for half an hour seems like a pretty amazing game.

[anassa]

Did a Timespy run with 8700k @ 4.5Ghz all core and 3070 +450 memory, +150 core undervolt at 0.837v.  Not fine tuned, just put in the numbers and it worked!

 

https://www.3dmark.com/spy/45143270

 

Overall: 10,770

GPU: 11,495

CPU: 7,937

[aldarxt]

13 hours ago, anassa said:

Did a Timespy run with 8700k @ 4.5Ghz all core and 3070 +450 memory, +150 core undervolt at 0.837v.  Not fine tuned, just put in the numbers and it worked!

 

https://www.3dmark.com/spy/45143270

 

Overall: 10,770

GPU: 11,495

CPU: 7,937

Is this the internal display?

[anassa]

19 minutes ago, aldarxt said:

Is this the internal display?

 

External display, have not gotten interal to work yet 😑

[ryan]

what are your guyes temps..im getting 60c with a run of timespy and a score of 8800-9000. I cant seem to break 9k without breaking temps into the 80s. at this point i dont mind sacrificing 3 fps for 50-60c temps and longevity.

[anassa]

On 2/1/2024 at 11:50 AM, ryan said:

what are your guyes temps..im getting 60c with a run of timespy and a score of 8800-9000. I cant seem to break 9k without breaking temps into the 80s. at this point i dont mind sacrificing 3 fps for 50-60c temps and longevity.

 

Depends on the setup:

• ~7,800 GPU score w/ OC 1080 GTX (~180w) and Aliexpress heatsink, 70F ambient, I get mid 70s
• ~11,000 GPU score w/ OC 3070 RTX (~140w) and stock unified P750DM2 heatsink (meant for a 1060), 75F ambient, I get high 70s (on external montior)
• ~4,300 GPU score with OC 1060 GTX (~80w) and stock separated P775 heatsink with poor contact, 70F ambient, I get low 70s

 

[ryan]

cpu at 4ghz 11800h

gpu completely stock no control panel

 

 

max temp 83

 

not sure why without control panel the gpu score is so low, im not having good luck with the new drivers

[1610ftw]

Chinese MSI Titan 18 HX review, with CPU and GPU scores. Time Spy GPU at almost 24000 but as we know total score is held back by having 4 memory slots that will always cost some benchmark performance due to lower CPU score - can't have it all.

 

It also looks like a very good Cinebench R23 score at 39007. MSI default apparently does not work very well as the CPU heats up too much due to being allowed to pull well above 200W which is silly as with the right settings in this particular unit ca. 175W are enough for a 36000 score with obviously significant undervolting:

[ryan]

thats a crazy score. basically desktop level performance. and 24000. I can't wait for the 5090, I think that would be the perfect time to pounce. its not that the performance hasn't caught up its just games/games are not coming out, the only game im looking forward to is gta 6. other than that theres nothing but crickets. no word of rdr3 and the only good game this year is GOTY baldurs gate 3.

 

when my 3060 baby is pushing 30fps at 4k that sucker is pumping 81fps

 

Im using high performance texture filtering and although it looks like garbage scores go up a bit...will post my graphics settings and score in a few

 

[1610ftw]

17 hours ago, ryan said:

thats a crazy score. basically desktop level performance. and 24000. I can't wait for the 5090, I think that would be the perfect time to pounce. its not that the performance hasn't caught up its just games/games are not coming out, the only game im looking forward to is gta 6. other than that theres nothing but crickets. no word of rdr3 and the only good game this year is GOTY baldurs gate 3.

 

when my 3060 baby is pushing 30fps at 4k that sucker is pumping 81fps

 

Im using high performance texture filtering and although it looks like garbage scores go up a bit...will post my graphics settings and score in a few

 

 

 

Nice score!

 

Time Spy is rather silly in a few regards:

Quite probably most people use the texture filtering option because everybody does and it definitely makes the picture look worse - it is just silly. Also the way that memory speed influences the CPU score is completely ridiculous and makes no sense whatsoever.

 

I still like to use it for the graphics score as I have used it for a long time now and switching to something else would make comparisons difficult

[anassa]

59 minutes ago, 1610ftw said:

I still like to use it for the graphics score as I have used it for a long time now and switching to something else would make comparisons difficult

 

^^This - basically an easy way to have one metric of comparison over the different generations. Not necessarily useful for direct game FPS estimates, but still some kind of metric of comparison. Soon we will have the Steel Nomad update that can be used for the next few generations as a metric of comparison. Timespy came out in 2016? So roughly 7 years of use, hopefully Steel Nomad will have use for the next 7~8 years too. Once it comes out I think it might be fun to do a comparison between firestrike / timespy / nomad over several generations of GPUs.

[ryan]

1 hour ago, anassa said:

 

^^This - basically an easy way to have one metric of comparison over the different generations. Not necessarily useful for direct game FPS estimates, but still some kind of metric of comparison. Soon we will have the Steel Nomad update that can be used for the next few generations as a metric of comparison. Timespy came out in 2016? So roughly 7 years of use, hopefully Steel Nomad will have use for the next 7~8 years too. Once it comes out I think it might be fun to do a comparison between firestrike / timespy / nomad over several generations of GPUs.

it will be interesting to see how the 1060-4060s hold up. I dont think ill see anything past single digits but it ill be nice seeing where were at. I can still game at 1080p and 1440p is weak in the knees, and 4k although possible 2 years ago, its now a distant memory. I don't think ill be going mid range again, although its true by the time next gen is out the top tier card may be obsolete, look at the 1080 holding its ground even in 2024, utterly incredible.

 

That was not my highest score, just a metric for the new drivers, I think my top score just broke 9500 in gpu with timespy. 100- points off isn't the end of the world and the added features like AI upscaling make the trade offs worth it. I think im going to start comparing with high quality filtering and 4x AF from now on just to give me an accurate or more accurate guage of what to expect gaming wise.

 

the difference is about 300-400 points but heres my underclocked cpu and overclocked gpu and gaming settings gauge.

 

 

this is my new baseline, its what I game with. I can increase the cpu clocks a bit more but temps hit 90c and other components get too hot causing laptop to shutdown, so yeah not the brightest idea increasing cpu speed

[1610ftw]

1 hour ago, anassa said:

 

^^This - basically an easy way to have one metric of comparison over the different generations. Not necessarily useful for direct game FPS estimates, but still some kind of metric of comparison. Soon we will have the Steel Nomad update that can be used for the next few generations as a metric of comparison. Timespy came out in 2016? So roughly 7 years of use, hopefully Steel Nomad will have use for the next 7~8 years too. Once it comes out I think it might be fun to do a comparison between firestrike / timespy / nomad over several generations of GPUs.

 

Yep, nice to have a constant metric. It is the same with CPUs where for all CPUs I am interested in I can get an idea of performance with Cinebench 23 and Cinebench 20. Pretty sure I will skip Cinebench 24 and wait for at least the next version as it is retarded to jump ship every year.

 

[ryan]

I have to agree, alot of people jump ship each year. just for bragging rights. I persoanlly have lasted 2.5 years with my 3060 and 11800h and wont be using r24. Im glad I waited because the wait to get a 5090 laptop will soon be over, nows a good time to save up. 500 here 500 there. will have 40 000 in no time lol. geesus have laptops gotten expensive, still a better buy than desktops. you can just fold and off you go, and with 80-90 percent of desktop performance. heres hoping we see another pascal generation.

 

It's good timing because GTA 6 will be out by the time 5090 laptops are out and it should be able to run it at 4k medium.

[1610ftw]

A desktop will continue to be much more capable than a laptop as long as there will be desktop GPUs with huge power limit and bandwidth but with Thunderbolt 5 it may be possible to harness most of that power via an external GPU.

 

So you could get some 4080 equivalent (5070 maybe) for pretty good gaming on the go and if TB5 is finally done right plug in your external 5080 at home with a performance that will be better and more quiet than a laptop with the laptop 5090.

 

Of course that only applies when you do not just literally sit at your laptop at all times and use it exclusively and without peripherals. In that case it is probably best to maximize that performance.

 

Alienware had a nice external solution for some time with their graphics amplifier although to the surprise of no one the case itself was poorly executed with regard to noise and cooling. I just did a Time Spy with a 4070 Super in an older AGA and achieved 21700 for the GPU which I think is a top ten ranked performance for the 4080 mobile. I got it for the very moderate upgrade price of the 4070 Super and therefore brought the attached laptop to quite impressive performance levels and with 200$ more for a 4070Ti I could even have gotten 4090 laptop performance for still a very moderate price.

 

All on a 2014 eGPU platform although in my case it is connected to a 2019 51m R1 - probably the best upgradeability Alienware ever achieved!

[Etern4l]

I mean on the high end side there is no contest really.

 

* CPUs - desktop consumer models trump (sorry) the mobile variants, if that’s not enough there is HEDT up to potentially dual CPU setups

* GPUs - same story no contest between consumer GPUs, a consumer Intel platform can support 5 GPUs lol, availability of 48GB if not 64GB GPUs

* RAM - 96 GB max vs 192 GB on consumer platforms and 512GB+ on HEDT

 

* I/O ports - lol

* SSD slots - lol

*. Networking - multiple 2.5Gbps / 10G wired standard on a desktop

* Large spindle HDDs - only external vs to boot

 

Laptops have their place, but it’s not to replace high-end desktops.

[1610ftw]

Spot on - desktop will continue to run away from laptop for a number of reasons although I would think that with a 14900HX, 192GB memory, 3 to 4 SSDs and the i/O that is available in top end laptops most people would be happy already. The biggest issue for "normal" high end users is obviously the GPU where we are now getting something between 4070 Super and 4070 Ti performance out of a 4090 mobile which is not so great given the money that we have to pay for that level of perfomance in a laptop. With a 14900HX on the other hand it is possible to get something that is not too far off from a regular non-overclocked 14900K performance which is much better than the GPU situation.

 

What will be interesting to see this year will be Thunderbolt 5 and its eGPU performance that may help a lot to close the gap for laptops once they are stationary. If TB5 is really good then we could get a laptop with something like a mobile 4080 equivalent in next generation (5070 maybe) for pretty good gaming on the go and with TB5 helping to close the gap very good performance at home at the level of a 5080 or above and all that with better CPU performance in the laptop as most of the power and cooling will be used for the CPU when stationary.

 

Alienware had this solution for some time with their graphics amplifier and I just did a Time Spy with a 4070 Super at 21700 for the GPU in the AGA. That is top ten 4080 mobile performance for a very moderate price and on an old laptop and with 200$ more for a 4070Ti Super I could probably have gotten top ten 4090 mobile performance for still a comparatively moderate price and all that wth a 2014 eGPU platform.

 

Of course those eGPU options only apply for people who do not literally sit at their laptop at all times and use its keyboard and screen - in that case it is probably best to maximize / optimize that performance which will be both more difficult and more expensive when top end performance is the goal.