Everyone, its time to decide our brand!

[Mr. Fox]

14 minutes ago, Ionising_Radiation said:

Erm... That word is the basis for Apple's entire MacBook line. Macintosh notebook → Mac notebook → MacBook. Many other brands have 'Book' as a brand name, like Surface Book, HP ProBook, Razer Book, Asus VivoBook, etc etc...

A great reason to call them laptops instead of notebooks. Notebooks carries not only the Mac stigma, it also seems to align with the emphais of form over function. That is fine if it is what makes someone all warm and fuzzy feeling, but it is good to avoid making it appear to those looking for a place to hang their hats that this would be a community that primarily caters to that.

[Ionising_Radiation]

9 minutes ago, Mr. Fox said:

A great reason to call them laptops instead of notebooks

IMHO, that's like burning books because their content is offensive. If we want to push for certain trends, we should vote with our wallets, and not change names for the sake of it; it is as virtue-signalling as 'press Like for the poor starving African kids'.

There's nothing intrinsically wrong with the word 'notebook': the word was adopted decades ago for the mobile computer form factor with two panels connected by a hinge (that is reminiscent of paper notebooks); one panel with the display, and the other containing the keyboard, motherboard, other HID, connectivity, etc.

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P.S.

9 minutes ago, Mr. Fox said:

emphais of form over function

There's also nothing intrinsically wrong with Apple MacBooks. That they are form over function is an opinion you have, which is fine; I think it is worth acknowledging that despite how locked down they are, they also have seriously impressive hardware, at least with the most recent M1 generation. I wouldn't buy one because I can't stand OS X; however, as a computer package, Macs are good; it's why Apple sells them by the boatloads now. 

[defcon42]

I already casted my vote, but i am content with everything it will be in the end.

[Mr. Fox]

1 hour ago, Ionising_Radiation said:

IMHO, that's like burning books because their content is offensive. If we want to push for certain trends, we should vote with our wallets, and not change names for the sake of it; it is as virtue-signalling as 'press Like for the poor starving African kids'.

There's nothing intrinsically wrong with the word 'notebook': the word was adopted decades ago for the mobile computer form factor with two panels connected by a hinge (that is reminiscent of paper notebooks); one panel with the display, and the other containing the keyboard, motherboard, other HID, connectivity, etc.

I don't disagree with you conceptually, although I do not consider that rejecting what you find objectionable is tantamount to virtue-signaling. It is the opposite. Pretending to be inclusive or embracing everything can also be a form of virtue-signaling. Virtue-signalling is very popular among certain groups and hypocrisy in any form is repulsive, but the word "notebook" existed before computers were created or Apple hijacked it. It is also not particularly descriptive and is as misused as the terms "Sheetrock" and "Kleenex" are, but it is generally associated with thin and  light stuff. That is why I invented the term "turdbook" (very descriptive) but I now apply that universally to include the so-called DTRs that are equally compromised. Note that I own a turdbook (in my signature). I don't like it very much and don't use it except when necessary, but it is directed in a derrogatory manner toward products and not the people that own them.

 

[Guest]

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[K4sum1]

Will there be just one vote or will the top 3 be voted on after this post? Invision sucks and doesn't let me see results before voting or change my vote. I hate Invision and like this is why I didn't want to join this board in the first place.

 

[Aaron44126]

6 minutes ago, K4sum1 said:

Invision sucks and doesn't let me see results before voting or change my vote.

It looks like you can change your vote if you like.  Click the "Show vote options" button below the results.

[John Ratsey]

4 hours ago, Aaron44126 said:

So, I personally am here for the notebook talk.  I think what set NBR apart from other PC forums (Tech|Inferno, Overclock.net, [H]ardForum, etc.) was the focus on notebooks.  Specifically, the various hardware manufacturer sections.  A new user passing by could find in-depth discussions on specific models, issues, and upgrade options, and find knowledgeable people to ask questions of.  I really hope that we manage to recapture that here.  There's really no place else where it exists otherwise.  Notebooks were the niche of NBR.

 

Well said and this echoes my own thinking. I also think that new users are more likely to come if the name found by their favourite search engine looks relevant and once we get the NBR archive linked in to the different notebook sections then this site will climb up the search rankings.

There's also nothing stopping this forum having a desktop corner where members can discuss their desktops (many notebook owners have both) and sometimes it's useful to make comparisons between desktops and notebooks.

 

[Reciever]

4 hours ago, K4sum1 said:

Will there be just one vote or will the top 3 be voted on after this post? Invision sucks and doesn't let me see results before voting or change my vote.

 

Those rules are by design. In my opinion if you must see results before voting then it's not your vote anymore. Had absolutely nothing to do with Invision,and everything to do with the Admin team actually putting that in place. 

Next, I'm going to kindly ask that you operate within the rules you agreed to about less than 24 hours ago. Keep it PG rated.

 

 

Next I am of the mindset that we need to allow for growth in other genre's or at the very least allow it grow. This is not to be confused with becoming an all purpose forum, or LTT. In fact we looked at LTT as example of how vague we don't want to leave our sub-forums generally speaking. The ideas and movements I have in mind for the forum (I believe) would set us apart as it's something that doesn't exist on any other forum that I am currently aware of. That all being said it would require much more from the members if we were to attempt building that out. Something I will announce soon after some additional consultation and review.

If it's simply a matter of guiding other NBR members here we could have a thread named Notebookreview - from the ashes or something that makes sense from a search engine perspective.

[M4980]

I voted for efgxt.net as I believe it sounds the best out of the given options, furthermore I think the notebook branding could be redundant. 😺

Users will quickly see that this is a specialist laptop forum due to its insightful discussion revolving pretty much all aspects of laptops (perhaps it should also include small laptop icon in top left of top navbar).

It should also spread via word of keyboard that this is where a lot of notebookreview forum users went, so they will already know this is the "notebook revival".

 

i would like to thank everyone involved with this forum for creating a new platform for notebookreview forum users. it looks great so far 🙂

[Sandy Bridge]

In the end I think I prefer NotebookRevival to NotebookTalk.  It sounds more... optimistic?  Enthusiastic?  Less general?  But both would work well.

 

EFGXT does roll off the tongue kind of nicely in an XKCD-type way, but doesn't give any hint to what the site's about.

 

I think it's better to stay focused on the notebook niche than to try to have a general appeal.  If we go for the general PC hardware focus, they the question, "why join Core-PC.net instead of [insert other PC forum name here]?" has to be answered.  Whereas if the focus is on notebooks, not only is that a clear and more distinct focus, but that's likely where the majority of the community's expertise is as well.  It's more likely to result in standing out from the crowd enough to have long-term viability.

 

It's true that a decent number of long-timers now use desktops as their main machines; I count myself as one of them.  But I think it would be smarter to add another sub-forum or two to desktops, if interest warrants it, than to advertise ourselves as a general PC hardware forum.

[Samir]

I think the subject of a name is a tricky one.

 

The core group of users here are basically NBR.  The layout is basically NBR.  And why?  Because NBR worked for us as a community.

 

Would it have mattered if the name was poopypantsreview and still had the great forum with in-depth content?  Probably not.  I didn't check the name before registering.  I registered because there was great information and great people.

 

So all that being said, while 'a rose by any other name would smell just as sweet', having a logical name does help with just being 'common sense'.  I recently got a piece of mail from 'Kabbage' who has nothing to do with food--they're a loan company.  What a retarded name if your name is the only thing to let people know what you do.

 

I like the site just the way it is now, and if it suits for seo, I wouldn't change a thing.  Otherwise notebooktalk is the most logical in my mind and got my vote.

 

As far as content, being in the same niche as the original NBR and being just as much of an authority should be priority one.  Otherwise, this is just another forum (except with great members).

[saturnotaku]

As the bulk of the content here is meant to be a successor to NBR, I went with NotebookTalk.com. Revival is a nice idea, but the word has a connotation of being temporary. We're in a revival stage as of now, but once the community gets more established, I think it would sound weird to continue using that term. I don't think the name as it stands right now will play nicely with SEO. A lot of laptop-related searches directed to NBR. Someone who might not know better would think the site might be a scam if they see that it's just a bunch of letters. Further, I don't think the name should adopt a more generic PC hardware focus. The specialized nature of NBR is what really made it work and I think kept the community easy to manage. We start appealing to more PCMR types, and I think this place could devolve like nVNews.net did in its dying days. We can certainly keep a dedicated desktop hardware sub-forum, but that should be the extent of it.

[Dannemand]

I voted for NoteBookTalk.com, although I would prefer it to be spelled NotebookTalk (same domain, of course).

 

My logic is to have something that both rings a little of NBR while also being a completely logical name to someone who never knew about NBR.

 

NotebookRevival was my 2nd choice, but a tad too much... well, revival. Like for boomers only (no offsense to anybody). And efgxt, while a cool fresh start, was to me a bit like Smuckers Marmelade: With a name like that, it better be good; Really, really good 😅

 

I agree with some of the sentiments posted here:

 

1) Few people refer to laptops as notebooks anymore (I personally don't). But I think NotebookTalk, NBT is OK still.

 

2) We should want to be the forum of choice for all computer enthusiasts, including desktop users. But there are so many sites for that, particularly once you include mobiles and Raspberry Pi's. So having notebooks/laptops our main focus is a form of differentiation. We can still have sub-forums for other computers. I am even thinking having desktop subforums under the main manufacturers might be a good idea (Dell Desktops, HP Desktops etc) instead of lumping them all into a main Desktop forum. Just a thought.

 

3) Integration with the NBR archive will (would) be a huge draw pulling in users from Google searches and the like. As it always was on NBR.

 

Thanks again for the hard work to Receiver, Hiew, Aaron and everybody who is involved!

 

 

[hfm]

22 hours ago, Ionising_Radiation said:

IMHO, that's like burning books because their content is offensive. If we want to push for certain trends, we should vote with our wallets, and not change names for the sake of it; it is as virtue-signalling as 'press Like for the poor starving African kids'.

There's nothing intrinsically wrong with the word 'notebook': the word was adopted decades ago for the mobile computer form factor with two panels connected by a hinge (that is reminiscent of paper notebooks); one panel with the display, and the other containing the keyboard, motherboard, other HID, connectivity, etc.

___

P.S.

There's also nothing intrinsically wrong with Apple MacBooks. That they are form over function is an opinion you have, which is fine; I think it is worth acknowledging that despite how locked down they are, they also have seriously impressive hardware, at least with the most recent M1 generation. I wouldn't buy one because I can't stand OS X; however, as a computer package, Macs are good; it's why Apple sells them by the boatloads now. 

 

I agree here, if Apple offerings have their own section there's no reason it shouldn't exist. They are popular notebooks for a reason.

 

I do kind of like keeping it more notebook focused as it's underserved, there's a dime-a-dozen general desktop hardware and tech focused forums not to mention reddit. Even if I don't really care as much about notebooks as I used to from a gaming standpoint, I still use both windows and mac for productivity on a near daily basis. For instance there was a ton of great knowledge in the LG section for drivers and Linux talk in NBR that is essentially lost now.

[Hertzian56]

6 minutes ago, hfm said:

 

I agree here, if Apple offerings have their own section there's no reason it shouldn't exist. They are popular notebooks for a reason.

 

I do kind of like keeping it more notebook focused as it's underserved, there's a dime-a-dozen general desktop hardware and tech focused forums not to mention reddit. Even if I don't really care as much about notebooks as I used to from a gaming standpoint, I still use both windows and mac for productivity on a near daily basis. For instance there was a ton of great knowledge in the LG section for drivers and Linux talk in NBR that is essentially lost now.

nbrchive.net

[ssj92]

Shoot I didn't see the threads until today. I wanted to submit notebookenthusiasts.com 😔

 

Are these the only names that were submitted? 

[John Ratsey]

47 minutes ago, hfm said:

 I still use both windows and mac for productivity on a near daily basis. For instance there was a ton of great knowledge in the LG section for drivers and Linux talk in NBR that is essentially lost now.

It's slightly off topic for this thread but when @Aaron44126 has finished weaving his magic we'll be able to see all the old NBR threads. This example is for the Samsung forum but it's a matter of joining up the list here to the contents here. Your knowledge of the LG notebooks and forum will be useful in helping to build a sticky thread in the sub-forum listing the most important threads in the LG section of the archive. I've now got an interest in LG having recently purchased a Gram 17.

[Vasudev]

I have voted for current domain. Then again, I am okay with any decision of domain name.

[Samir]

2 hours ago, John Ratsey said:

I've now got an interest in LG having recently purchased a Gram 17.

Ah, you're so lucky!  I've been wanting a 2560x1600 res laptop for some time now since that's what I use on my desktops and would make mobile work so much easier.  I haven't taken the plunge because the Gram is so overkill for an rdp client, lol.

[Azther]

i do like the original efgxt name since its unique, however i voted revival over talk due to my thinking of it not being a revival of the forum but instead since alot of this forum has content/info/guides on older tech and modding of laptops. Therefore i took it as a means to revive/rejuvenate old and modern machines alike.

[Reciever]

Thanks to @Aaron44126 attention to details, I realized that I incorrectly listed Notebooktalk.com, what we had acquired was actually Notebooktalk.net and I have made the change in the poll options to reflect that.

 

 

[Nick]

I'm split between notebooktalk.net and efgxt.net. The former makes the content and intent of the site quite clear but the latter feels like a new beginning and is very unique. 

[K4sum1]

15 minutes ago, Nick said:

I'm split between notebooktalk.net and efgxt.net. The former makes the content and intent of the site quite clear but the latter feels like a new beginning and is very unique. 

Notebookrevival.com combines both of those

[Nick]

24 minutes ago, K4sum1 said:

Notebookrevival.com combines both of those

 

True and it's definitely not a bad name. Personally it doesn't follow as well as notebooktalk. Just my opinion.