JadeRover Posted 17 hours ago Posted 17 hours ago Well that's just a number given by intel for the design TDP of these CPUs so that manufacturers can make heatsinks accordingly. What is important is the voltage per clock ratio that each chip can do. On my zbook 17 g2 with i7-4810mq, when pushing all core to 4.0Ghz it hits 70w. It would be wiser to stay with the 4940xm that has much better silicon meaning you can undervolt more before you crash meaning higher clocks for the same power. All haswell mobile quadcores have the same physical die (some with more cache than others), the way intel names CPUs is that those that can be fed less voltage (=less power) for the same clocks achieved are marketed as the XM chips. For example, this same 4810mq will crash at -20mV at all core 4Ghz. The 4940xm has way better overclocking headroom than the 4900mq. I'm ready to bet that the 4940xm reaches higher clocks than the 4900mq in your power limited system because you can get 3.7 Ghz all core @ -80mv witht eh 4940xm whereas the 4900mq will probably crash at -45mv = stuck at 3.5Ghz all core. Precision M6700 : i7-3740QM | P3000 6gb engineering vbios | 20gb DDR3 1600Mhz | FHD ips dreamcolor | delta fans Zbook 17 g3 : i7-6820HQ -75mv | M3000m 4gb | 16gb DDR4 2400Mhz | FHD ips Precision 7720 : i7-6820HQ -80mv & 102.7mhz BCLK| Zotac GTX1060 6gb, 100w OC vbios | 16gb DDR4 2666Mhz | (crappy) FHD ips -> 1440p165hz upgraded Zbook 17 g5 : i7-8850H, -140mv | P5200 16gb | 32gb DDR4 | FHD IPS
SuperMG Posted 16 hours ago Posted 16 hours ago 42 minutes ago, JadeRover said: Well that's just a number given by intel for the design TDP of these CPUs so that manufacturers can make heatsinks accordingly. What is important is the voltage per clock ratio that each chip can do. On my zbook 17 g2 with i7-4810mq, when pushing all core to 4.0Ghz it hits 70w. It would be wiser to stay with the 4940xm that has much better silicon meaning you can undervolt more before you crash meaning higher clocks for the same power. All haswell mobile quadcores have the same physical die (some with more cache than others), the way intel names CPUs is that those that can be fed less voltage (=less power) for the same clocks achieved are marketed as the XM chips. For example, this same 4810mq will crash at -20mV at all core 4Ghz. The 4940xm has way better overclocking headroom than the 4900mq. I'm ready to bet that the 4940xm reaches higher clocks than the 4900mq in your power limited system because you can get 3.7 Ghz all core @ -80mv witht eh 4940xm whereas the 4900mq will probably crash at -45mv = stuck at 3.5Ghz all core. I see people with Dell laptops reaching 4GHz all cores with the 4900MQ
JadeRover Posted 14 hours ago Posted 14 hours ago And at what power did they achieve this do you know ? My guess is probably 60w+ to do 4ghz all core on the 4900mq as my 4810mq requires 70w to do all core 4Ghz and it's a tier lower. Your problem is the power limit so I'd stick to the 4940xm Precision M6700 : i7-3740QM | P3000 6gb engineering vbios | 20gb DDR3 1600Mhz | FHD ips dreamcolor | delta fans Zbook 17 g3 : i7-6820HQ -75mv | M3000m 4gb | 16gb DDR4 2400Mhz | FHD ips Precision 7720 : i7-6820HQ -80mv & 102.7mhz BCLK| Zotac GTX1060 6gb, 100w OC vbios | 16gb DDR4 2666Mhz | (crappy) FHD ips -> 1440p165hz upgraded Zbook 17 g5 : i7-8850H, -140mv | P5200 16gb | 32gb DDR4 | FHD IPS
SuperMG Posted 14 hours ago Posted 14 hours ago 4 minutes ago, JadeRover said: And at what power did they achieve this do you know ? My guess is probably 60w+ to do 4ghz all core on the 4900mq as my 4810mq requires 70w to do all core 4Ghz and it's a tier lower. Your problem is the power limit so I'd stick to the 4940xm But I don't wanna get power limited when both GPU and CPU work. It's better to get the lower TDP CPUs. I'll test the 4940MX in an Alienware and see if it does the same issue. The 4940MX is requesting too much amps, maybe higher than the non extreme CPUs.
JadeRover Posted 14 hours ago Posted 14 hours ago I don't think so, the 4940xm should beat the 4900mq at all power levels since you can undervolt it more than the 4900mq before your system crashes. If you are power limited for the whole system (which seems very unlikely with a 240w charger), the 4900mq won't perform as well as the 4940xm in any case. Anyway if you ordered the 4900mq, give it a try and see if it can do more than 3.7 since that is your initial goal. Precision M6700 : i7-3740QM | P3000 6gb engineering vbios | 20gb DDR3 1600Mhz | FHD ips dreamcolor | delta fans Zbook 17 g3 : i7-6820HQ -75mv | M3000m 4gb | 16gb DDR4 2400Mhz | FHD ips Precision 7720 : i7-6820HQ -80mv & 102.7mhz BCLK| Zotac GTX1060 6gb, 100w OC vbios | 16gb DDR4 2666Mhz | (crappy) FHD ips -> 1440p165hz upgraded Zbook 17 g5 : i7-8850H, -140mv | P5200 16gb | 32gb DDR4 | FHD IPS
SuperMG Posted 14 hours ago Posted 14 hours ago 10 minutes ago, JadeRover said: I don't think so, the 4940xm should beat the 4900mq at all power levels since you can undervolt it more than the 4900mq before your system crashes. If you are power limited for the whole system (which seems very unlikely with a 240w charger), the 4900mq won't perform as well as the 4940xm in any case. Anyway if you ordered the 4900mq, give it a try and see if it can do more than 3.7 since that is your initial goal. The 4940mx crashes at -110mV core so... Not a good chip maybe. I'll test on 17 R1
SuperMG Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago (edited) 11 hours ago, JadeRover said: I don't think so, the 4940xm should beat the 4900mq at all power levels since you can undervolt it more than the 4900mq before your system crashes. If you are power limited for the whole system (which seems very unlikely with a 240w charger), the 4900mq won't perform as well as the 4940xm in any case. Anyway if you ordered the 4900mq, give it a try and see if it can do more than 3.7 since that is your initial goal. I tested the 4940MX in the Alienware 17 R1 and... Shocking results... Max 71W in ThrottleStop bench instead of 58W. CPU-Z: from 380 to 430 single score Multi-thread: 1880 to 2200... Can hit 4GHz on all cores. I put the i7 4700MQ in the M6800, I get 2.3GHz on all cores, what?? Max 24W... I set the cores to the lowest possible, I get 2.4GHz at 26W..... (Non OEM Battery) I didn't reset the CMOS and the NVRAM values yet. Maybe I should? I remember I was able to get 3.1GHz on all cores (OEM battery) Edit: fixed the 4700MQ turbo with CMOS reset and got 3.4GHz on all cores at 58W max. Multi-thread is 1800 points Edited 2 hours ago by SuperMG 1
DynamiteZerg Posted 23 minutes ago Posted 23 minutes ago On 2/11/2026 at 4:24 AM, Annihilator said: i have 2x 8GB ripjaws V 1866 C10 in my M6800 n works perfect at that speed, they r same like hyperX, plug n play with the programmed speed. just waiting for my 4x 2133 to arrive, got a set for around 150 bucks + shipping, isnt cheap but will push the CPU limit another 2-5% up, depends which game 😄 Where did you get the 2133 rams?
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