MS-16L13 Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 I have an MS-16L1 machine and about six months ago I replaced it with an HP P5200 C version graphics card. Although it works after flashing in the P5200 Vbios for the DGFF slot from DELL, it causes the miniDP port on the back to fail. I have tested many vbios so far, for example DELL's 86.04.8a.00.47, 86.04.a2.00.31, 86.04.8a.00.64. All three vbios have a default power consumption of 110W and a base frequency of 1316MHz and an boost frequency of 1569MHz. msi's two models 86.04.8B.00.7A and 86.04.8B.00.25. 160W default power consumption, 1582MHz base core clock frequency, 1759MHz boost frequency HP Z VR Backpack G1 Workstation 86.04.71.00.16 Default power consumption 150W Base clock frequency 1557MHz boost frequency 1747MHz The original vbios for the HP P5200 are 86.04.84.00.39 and 86.04.a2.00.23, with a default power consumption of 100W and a core base clock frequency of 1240MHz and an boost frequency of 1480MHz. As it is integrated into the bios, I have not been able to find it, and other sites have only extracted the AMD graphics card's vbios file from it. All three of the DELL models work, but cause the DP port to fail, I presume due to the different corresponding channels in the vbios. the MSI one will light up the screen, but installing the driver will just bring it down. the vBIOS of the HP Z VR Backpack G1 Workstation can only be used through the external screen, the edp internal screen will not light up. The vBIOS of the HP Z VR Backpack G1 Workstation can only be used through the external screen, the edp internal screen cannot be lit. So I would like to get the lenovo thinkpad P72 P5200 version 86.04.a2.00.19 and the fujitsu Celsius H980 P5200 version 86.04.8B.00.7E It would be great to get this WMXM-P5200E-VO version of the P5200 vbios. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaybee83 Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 highly interesting thread! maybe also make a collection of P5200 vbios versions to help the community in this regard 🙂 hope someone can help out here with the missing versions ure looking for! Mine: Hyperion "Titan God of Heat, Heavenly Light, Power" (2022-23) AMD Ryzen 9 7950X / Asus ROG Crosshair X670E Extreme / MSI Geforce RTX 4090 Suprim X / Teamgroup T-Force Delta RGB DDR5-8200 2x24 GB / Seagate Firecuda 530 4 TB / 5x Samsung 860 Evo 4 TB / Arctic Liquid Freezer II 420 (Push/Pull 6x Noctua NF-A14 IndustrialPPC-3000 intake) / Seasonic TX-1600 W Titanium / Phanteks Enthoo Pro 2 TG (3x Arctic P12 A-RGB intake / 4x Arctic P14 A-RGB exhaust / 1x Arctic P14 A-RGB RAM cooling) / Samsung Odyssey Neo G8 32" UHD 240 Hz / Ducky One 3 Daybreak Fullsize Cherry MX Brown / Corsair M65 Ultra RGB My Lady's: Clevo NH55JNNQ "Alfred" (2022-23) Sharp LQ156M1JW03 FHD matte 15.6" IGZO 8 bit @248 Hz / Intel Core i5 12600 / Nvidia Geforce RTX 3070 Ti / Mushkin Redline DDR4-3200 2x32 GB / Samsung 970 Pro 1 TB / Intel AX201 WIFI 6+BT 5.2 / Win 11 Pro Phoenix Lite OS / 230 W PSU powered by Prema Mod! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onehit Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 Also interested in the development of this thread. I've been eyeing on getting one of these cards and put it inside a Clevo P177SM. This is very much doable, as this Youtube video shows exactly just that. I think the guy is using the Dell vbios if your initial post is acurate. You don't think somebody can get access to the Prema vbios for the P5200? You can add that one to your list of vbioses to get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MS-16L13 Posted July 7, 2022 Author Share Posted July 7, 2022 11 hours ago, Onehit said: Also interested in the development of this thread. I've been eyeing on getting one of these cards and put it inside a Clevo P177SM. This is very much doable, as this Youtube video shows exactly just that. I think the guy is using the Dell vbios if your initial post is acurate. You don't think somebody can get access to the Prema vbios for the P5200? You can add that one to your list of vbioses to get. He had previously communicated with me via email, vbios using DELL86.04.8a.00.47 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MS-16L13 Posted July 7, 2022 Author Share Posted July 7, 2022 11 hours ago, Onehit said: Also interested in the development of this thread. I've been eyeing on getting one of these cards and put it inside a Clevo P177SM. This is very much doable, as this Youtube video shows exactly just that. I think the guy is using the Dell vbios if your initial post is acurate. You don't think somebody can get access to the Prema vbios for the P5200? You can add that one to your list of vbioses to get. Prema also used the same DELL VBIOS modification that he probably wouldn't have released. The main problem I have now is the lack of DP port output. Also I recommend you check out this article which has a detailed description of the P5200.P5200 ABCD SP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMSMajestic Posted November 24, 2022 Share Posted November 24, 2022 On 6/21/2022 at 7:11 PM, MS-16L13 said: I have an MS-16L1 machine and about six months ago I replaced it with an HP P5200 C version graphics card. Although it works after flashing in the P5200 Vbios for the DGFF slot from DELL, it causes the miniDP port on the back to fail. I have tested many vbios so far, for example DELL's 86.04.8a.00.47, 86.04.a2.00.31, 86.04.8a.00.64. All three vbios have a default power consumption of 110W and a base frequency of 1316MHz and an boost frequency of 1569MHz. msi's two models 86.04.8B.00.7A and 86.04.8B.00.25. 160W default power consumption, 1582MHz base core clock frequency, 1759MHz boost frequency HP Z VR Backpack G1 Workstation 86.04.71.00.16 Default power consumption 150W Base clock frequency 1557MHz boost frequency 1747MHz The original vbios for the HP P5200 are 86.04.84.00.39 and 86.04.a2.00.23, with a default power consumption of 100W and a core base clock frequency of 1240MHz and an boost frequency of 1480MHz. As it is integrated into the bios, I have not been able to find it, and other sites have only extracted the AMD graphics card's vbios file from it. All three of the DELL models work, but cause the DP port to fail, I presume due to the different corresponding channels in the vbios. the MSI one will light up the screen, but installing the driver will just bring it down. the vBIOS of the HP Z VR Backpack G1 Workstation can only be used through the external screen, the edp internal screen will not light up. The vBIOS of the HP Z VR Backpack G1 Workstation can only be used through the external screen, the edp internal screen cannot be lit. So I would like to get the lenovo thinkpad P72 P5200 version 86.04.a2.00.19 and the fujitsu Celsius H980 P5200 version 86.04.8B.00.7E It would be great to get this WMXM-P5200E-VO version of the P5200 vbios. I do have the vBIOS from P53, P73 and P15 Gen 1. I can use the P73 one on my P53 but not the P15 Gen 1 vBIOS. Though you might have better luck with P15 Gen 1. LMK if you are still interested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mashcar Posted November 28, 2022 Share Posted November 28, 2022 On 11/24/2022 at 6:33 AM, RMSMajestic said: I do have the vBIOS from P53, P73 and P15 Gen 1. I can use the P73 one on my P53 but not the P15 Gen 1 vBIOS. Though you might have better luck with P15 Gen 1. LMK if you are still interested. Could you post them here please ? I also would like to try them out. (I'm trying different versions because of 100% fan all the time problem on my HP). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QQisQQ Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 I am also a MS-16L1 user has also been suffering from P5200 displayport can not output, until one day I tried to use NVIDIA dp firmware upgrade 1.0, although the results show that "This tool is for use with add-in graphics cards only", but my laptop dp interface connected to the monitor can work properly. And as long as I don't shut down or log off everything works fine, playing Cyberpunk 2077 frame rate as usual, and there is no bug.(presumably disable the graphics driver and then enable it, you can also use gpu-z's save vbios button) I hope someone can find a long-term solution. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaybee83 Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 8 hours ago, QQisQQ said: I am also a MS-16L1 user has also been suffering from P5200 displayport can not output, until one day I tried to use NVIDIA dp firmware upgrade 1.0, although the results show that "This tool is for use with add-in graphics cards only", but my laptop dp interface connected to the monitor can work properly. And as long as I don't shut down or log off everything works fine, playing Cyberpunk 2077 frame rate as usual, and there is no bug.(presumably disable the graphics driver and then enable it, you can also use gpu-z's save vbios button) I hope someone can find a long-term solution. so im assuming that shutdown or reboot would revert it to blackscreen? and ud have to run that updater every time? Mine: Hyperion "Titan God of Heat, Heavenly Light, Power" (2022-23) AMD Ryzen 9 7950X / Asus ROG Crosshair X670E Extreme / MSI Geforce RTX 4090 Suprim X / Teamgroup T-Force Delta RGB DDR5-8200 2x24 GB / Seagate Firecuda 530 4 TB / 5x Samsung 860 Evo 4 TB / Arctic Liquid Freezer II 420 (Push/Pull 6x Noctua NF-A14 IndustrialPPC-3000 intake) / Seasonic TX-1600 W Titanium / Phanteks Enthoo Pro 2 TG (3x Arctic P12 A-RGB intake / 4x Arctic P14 A-RGB exhaust / 1x Arctic P14 A-RGB RAM cooling) / Samsung Odyssey Neo G8 32" UHD 240 Hz / Ducky One 3 Daybreak Fullsize Cherry MX Brown / Corsair M65 Ultra RGB My Lady's: Clevo NH55JNNQ "Alfred" (2022-23) Sharp LQ156M1JW03 FHD matte 15.6" IGZO 8 bit @248 Hz / Intel Core i5 12600 / Nvidia Geforce RTX 3070 Ti / Mushkin Redline DDR4-3200 2x32 GB / Samsung 970 Pro 1 TB / Intel AX201 WIFI 6+BT 5.2 / Win 11 Pro Phoenix Lite OS / 230 W PSU powered by Prema Mod! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MS-16L13 Posted December 5, 2022 Author Share Posted December 5, 2022 14 hours ago, QQisQQ said: I am also a MS-16L1 user has also been suffering from P5200 displayport can not output, until one day I tried to use NVIDIA dp firmware upgrade 1.0, although the results show that "This tool is for use with add-in graphics cards only", but my laptop dp interface connected to the monitor can work properly. And as long as I don't shut down or log off everything works fine, playing Cyberpunk 2077 frame rate as usual, and there is no bug.(presumably disable the graphics driver and then enable it, you can also use gpu-z's save vbios button) I hope someone can find a long-term solution. This method didn't work on both versions of the CD P5200. I also noticed that you were using the standard version driver instead of the DCH driver, so I also purposely installed the standard version driver to test it. The DP output definition is determined by VB, and the MS-16L3 (Z270 chipset) machine can output DP normally and can display the full hardware ID instead of 8 zeros like the MS-16L1 (Z170 chipset). I presume that the hardware of the 16L3 machine has reached a certain condition in VB, so it can display the DP and hardware ID normally.16L3 machine also has obvious flaws, it can't use graphics cards below Pascal's core, such as GTX9XXM, below Pascal's core of this generation can't be used normally on 16L3. Now there are two solutions, the first for the P5200 flash into only HDMI and DP output version 86.04.71.00.16 VB. and then the card to modify the edp-related resistors to make it forced to output edp signal. The second solution is to find the right VB, Lenovo Toshiba These two brands of laptops have been launched with the P5200 graphics card machine, good luck if one of them will be perfectly compatible with the 16L1. best or to extract the ZBOOK 17G5 native P5200 VB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QQisQQ Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 5 hours ago, jaybee83 said: so im assuming that shutdown or reboot would revert it to blackscreen? and ud have to run that updater every time? u r right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mashcar Posted December 11, 2022 Share Posted December 11, 2022 Anybody ? Lenovo vbios ? MSI vbios ? Any vbios for this cool graphic card ? I have looked on 51nb and other forums, but I didn't found them. I already used those from techpowerup site.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMSMajestic Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 On 11/29/2022 at 2:56 AM, Mashcar said: Could you post them here please ? I also would like to try them out. (I'm trying different versions because of 100% fan all the time problem on my HP). Sorry I misread things. I thought you meant for the RTX 5000 vBIOS on P53/P73/P15g1/P17g1. As for the P5200, below are the only thing(s) I have Lenovo_Quadro_P5200_86.04.8B.00.5E.rom Lenovo_Quadro_P5200_86.04.A2.00.19.rom P5200_DELL_M7730.rom P5200_HP_ZVRG1.rom 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mashcar Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 On 2/16/2023 at 7:45 AM, RMSMajestic said: Sorry I misread things. I thought you meant for the RTX 5000 vBIOS on P53/P73/P15g1/P17g1. As for the P5200, below are the only thing(s) I have Lenovo_Quadro_P5200_86.04.8B.00.5E.rom 166.5 kB · 0 downloads Lenovo_Quadro_P5200_86.04.A2.00.19.rom 166.5 kB · 0 downloads P5200_DELL_M7730.rom 232.5 kB · 0 downloads P5200_HP_ZVRG1.rom 231.5 kB · 0 downloads Thank you for your help ! I will try out Lenovo's flash, meanwhile I'm trying to pull out HP Zbook 17 G5 vbios for this graphic card. Lenovo and HP have their vbios hidden in uefi flash chip.. and in bios update. If It will work out, I will share it here. I have MSI vbios, when I will get back from work I will edit my post to add it : ) HP VR Backpack vbios and Dell works on mine mxm Rev. D P5200. Both have displayport and VGA output. VR Backpack don't have internal screen output. Mine is HP 8570w and I don't have muxxer or IGPU in mine - as for MSI 16 video output problem. EDIT: Adding zip archive with every vBios. Excluding : HP 86.04.84.00.39 86.04.a2.00.23 Fujitsu 86.04.8B.00.7E I still hope to have success obtaining them. Nvidia Quadro P5200 vBIOS collection.zip EDIT2.: With Mobile Pascal Tweaker and external programmer, you can edit MSI vbios to limit it 100w to try them out in your laptop if it works. That what I had done with mine, because this mxm card have limitation to 110W max. You can read it after you translate on this site: https://www.bilibili.com/read/cv10852330 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMSMajestic Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 17 hours ago, Mashcar said: Thank you for your help ! I will try out Lenovo's flash, meanwhile I'm trying to pull out HP Zbook 17 G5 vbios for this graphic card. Lenovo and HP have their vbios hidden in uefi flash chip.. and in bios update. If It will work out, I will share it here. I have MSI vbios, when I will get back from work I will edit my post to add it : ) HP VR Backpack vbios and Dell works on mine mxm Rev. D P5200. Both have displayport and VGA output. VR Backpack don't have internal screen output. Mine is HP 8570w and I don't have muxxer or IGPU in mine - as for MSI 16 video output problem. EDIT: Adding zip archive with every vBios. Excluding : HP 86.04.84.00.39 86.04.a2.00.23 Fujitsu 86.04.8B.00.7E I still hope to have success obtaining them. Nvidia Quadro P5200 vBIOS collection.zip 1.05 MB · 1 download EDIT2.: With Mobile Pascal Tweaker and external programmer, you can edit MSI vbios to limit it 100w to try them out in your laptop if it works. That what I had done with mine, because this mxm card have limitation to 110W max. You can read it after you translate on this site: https://www.bilibili.com/read/cv10852330 Lenovo used to have the vBIOS embedded in BIOS. But it seem to have changed since P70 (there has been successful GTX 1070/ P5000 upgrades). And I can confirm personally that there is a dedicated vBIOS chip on P52/P53 mobo. Though I'm not exactly sure if the discrete vBIOS is used, it's likely that embedded vBIOS in sBIOS is loaded correspondingly with optimus settings. (the fact that I'm seeing different subsys IDs with this setting changed.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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