FS: HP nVIDIA Quadro P5200 16GB GDDR5 MXM-B

[SuperMG3]

Hello, yes I bought his card a couple days ago.

I'll maybe receive the card in the weekend?

 

I'll test this card as a slave in my Clevo X7200. (HD 5870 Mobility + Quadro P5200 non-UEFI) with unlocked BIOS. It's a X58 chipset laptop.

[SuperMG3]

Yeah I need an AMD card, because mixing old Fermi GPU with a more recent one will cause this + error 38/10

[SuperMG3]

I got the card working.

 

It does 49FPS AVG in FurMark. Normally it should do 79FPS. I guess it's because of the GTX 485M drivers. Fermi and Pascal don't even share a single driver.

 

I need to get a AMD HD 6XXX graphics card to make the Nvidia GPU run with the latest drivers without any conflicts or limits.

 

I did buy an HD 5870M but it was faulty as the laptop would shutdown in windows/bios/dos after one minute from power 

[SuperMG3]

@GuitarG 

@jaybee83

 

Hello. I bought the GPU for my Clevo X7200 (aka X58 predecessor of the Clevo P570WM).

 

My card runs at average 70W on the 3dmark, Heaven Benchmark, but why?

 

I use dual GPUs. One GTX 680M for master and one P5200 for slave (as high performance GPU in Windows).

 

I use the 2024 quadro driver with two hardware IDs mod. Driver from 2020 or 2024, same performance whatsoever.

 

My PSU is a 300W one and my CPU is a Xeon E5620.

 

The PCIE 2.0 speed is x16 for both MXM lanes. @triturboalso had the same bandwidth speed as me but he was able to pull more watt.

 

I also set the Power savings mode on Windows to Off. 

[SuperMG3]

2 hours ago, SuperMG3 said:

@GuitarG 

@jaybee83

 

Hello. I bought the GPU for my Clevo X7200 (aka X58 predecessor of the Clevo P570WM).

 

My card runs at average 70W on the 3dmark, Heaven Benchmark, but why?

 

I use dual GPUs. One GTX 680M for master and one P5200 for slave (as high performance GPU in Windows).

 

I use the 2024 quadro driver with two hardware IDs mod. Driver from 2020 or 2024, same performance whatsoever.

 

My PSU is a 300W one and my CPU is a Xeon E5620.

 

The PCIE 2.0 speed is x16 for both MXM lanes. @triturboalso had the same bandwidth speed as me but he was able to pull more watt.

 

I also set the Power savings mode on Windows to Off. 

@Clamibothello, any ideas on that as well?

[GuitarG]

On 3/23/2025 at 2:31 AM, SuperMG3 said:

 

I did buy an HD 5870M but it was faulty as the laptop would shutdown in windows/bios/dos after one minute from power 

It could be sign of not compatible GPU core temperature sensor. Laptop enters panic mode, fans goes with max speed and turns off after minute.

There was one guy, to whom I sold my P5200, that described problem (here on forum) and solved it. Then P5200 worked flawless with his Clevo. You have to look for throttle reason (in Throttle stop) and I suspect it could be power limit (because of not compatible temp sensor).

PCI gen 2 wouldn't limit wattage given to GPU

[SuperMG3]

7 minutes ago, GuitarG said:

It could be sign of not compatible GPU core temperature sensor. Laptop enters panic mode, fans goes with max speed and turns off after minute.

There was one guy, to whom I sold my P5200, that described problem (here on forum) and solved it. Then P5200 worked flawless with his Clevo. You have to look for throttle reason (in Throttle stop) and I suspect it could be power limit (because of not compatible temp sensor).

PCI gen 2 wouldn't limit wattage given to GPU

The HD 5870 was returned because it wasn't for my laptop, it was for a WU860 and not for X7200. It probably didn't understand the AMD card.

 

My GTX 680M Dell variant works on X7200 no problem.

 

ThrottleStop is for CPU, you mean GPU-Z? I have the same graph as triturbo, I get Pwr limit signs but my wattage is way lower than his.

 

The GPU2 fan works great, it's on par with the P5200 Nvidia's temperature. 

[SuperMG3]

Also the laptop always start with 100% fan on CPU and GPUs. Even with a single GTX 485M, it's normal to be loud at the start.

 

How can I fix low wattage? I want to get atleast 90W average on benchmarks.

 

Slave MXM slot can do 100W max.

[jaybee83]

6 hours ago, SuperMG3 said:

@GuitarG 

@jaybee83

 

Hello. I bought the GPU for my Clevo X7200 (aka X58 predecessor of the Clevo P570WM).

 

My card runs at average 70W on the 3dmark, Heaven Benchmark, but why?

 

I use dual GPUs. One GTX 680M for master and one P5200 for slave (as high performance GPU in Windows).

 

I use the 2024 quadro driver with two hardware IDs mod. Driver from 2020 or 2024, same performance whatsoever.

 

My PSU is a 300W one and my CPU is a Xeon E5620.

 

The PCIE 2.0 speed is x16 for both MXM lanes. @triturboalso had the same bandwidth speed as me but he was able to pull more watt.

 

I also set the Power savings mode on Windows to Off. 

 

do the usual checklist:

- gpu temps all good? optimal coverage of SMDs with thermal pads, making goo contact?

- try various different benchmarks / games to be sure that the gpu is being fully utilized. also make sure ure not hitting a CPU bottleneck, that might keep the GPU below its peak performance

[SuperMG3]

3 minutes ago, jaybee83 said:

 

do the usual checklist:

- gpu temps all good? optimal coverage of SMDs with thermal pads, making goo contact?

- try various different benchmarks / games to be sure that the gpu is being fully utilized. also make sure ure not hitting a CPU bottleneck, that might keep the GPU below its peak performance

Temps are all good. Otherwise I'll get a thermal throttle warning in GPU-Z. Below 75C in benchmarking

 

GPU is being used at 100% in 3dmark, heaven Benchmark, Passmark, yes. 

 

The card is a 100W version with a 110W vBIOS. My max wattage was 84W in FireStrike and for triturbo it was 127W!

 

Triturbo was using a CPU way slower than mine and he got greater results with the same card, so no, no CPU bottlenecks.

[SuperMG3]

31 minutes ago, SuperMG3 said:

Temps are all good. Otherwise I'll get a thermal throttle warning in GPU-Z. Below 75C in benchmarking

 

GPU is being used at 100% in 3dmark, heaven Benchmark, Passmark, yes. 

 

The card is a 100W version with a 110W vBIOS. My max wattage was 84W in FireStrike and for triturbo it was 127W!

 

Triturbo was using a CPU way slower than mine and he got greater results with the same card, so no, no CPU bottlenecks.

This is FurMark, look at gpu-z graph.

 

[jaybee83]

welp furmark isnt reliable anymore since nvidia built in artificial downclocks whenever its run.

 

but i get your point, seems like ure good to go.

 

hm this is weird, difficult to pinpoint if this is hardware / firmware or software related.

[SuperMG3]

2 hours ago, jaybee83 said:

welp furmark isnt reliable anymore since nvidia built in artificial downclocks whenever its run.

 

but i get your point, seems like ure good to go.

 

hm this is weird, difficult to pinpoint if this is hardware / firmware or software related.

Same for 3dmark.

 

TimeSpy: 3400, 77W max

FireStrike: 10500, 84W max.

 

Should I just edit my VBIOS and thinker with the TDP? Like 95W or 125W instead of 110W?

 

Should I get a quadro K3000M (75W) for the master mxm instead of GTX 680M?

[Reciever]

Make a thread in the correct sub-forum please :)

[jaybee83]

5 hours ago, SuperMG3 said:

Same for 3dmark.

 

TimeSpy: 3400, 77W max

FireStrike: 10500, 84W max.

 

Should I just edit my VBIOS and thinker with the TDP? Like 95W or 125W instead of 110W?

 

Should I get a quadro K3000M (75W) for the master mxm instead of GTX 680M?

 

you can do that but i suspect that might either do nothing or brick the card @vbios editing 😄

 

whats the total system wattage ure pulling during load?

[SuperMG3]

26 minutes ago, jaybee83 said:

 

you can do that but i suspect that might either do nothing or brick the card @vbios editing 😄

 

whats the total system wattage ure pulling during load?

On 3d benchmarking? 180-190W.

 

I edited the existing bios file from the card itself so no worries, right.

Edited 10 hours ago by SuperMG3

[triturbo]

16 hours ago, SuperMG3 said:

@GuitarG 

@jaybee83

 

My PSU is a 300W one and my CPU is a Xeon E5620.

 

 

On a second thought - your CPU is 80W, your primary GPU is 100W, this leaves about 120W for the rest of the system - RAM, HDD/SSD, chipset and other stuff including the secondary GPU. So you might be indeed power starved. If I was to undervolt and underclock anything it would be the primary GPU, leave the P5200, after all you want as much performance as possible. 

[triturbo]

10 minutes ago, SuperMG3 said:

On 3d benchmarking? 180-190W.

 

I edited the existing bios file from the card itself so no worries, right.

Where do you get this reading from? It is too low for two GPUs and an 80W CPU. 

[jaybee83]

good input from bro @triturbo there might be smth going on with your power draw.

[SuperMG3]

3 hours ago, triturbo said:

Where do you get this reading from? It is too low for two GPUs and an 80W CPU. 

From the outlet.

 

The PSU is a 300W. I did see some people doing SLI GTX 680M With only one 300W brick... Maybe SLI and non-sli is different ? (I don't have enough ressources, maybe they used 2 PSUs?)

 

The 680M isn't using a whole power, it's in idle.

Edited 7 hours ago by SuperMG3

[SuperMG3]

2 hours ago, triturbo said:

Where do you get this reading from? It is too low for two GPUs and an 80W CPU. 

And I'll upgrade my CPU to a Xeon W3680 too. Imagine the GPU gets dropped

[triturbo]

2 hours ago, SuperMG3 said:

From the outlet.

 

The PSU is a 300W. I did see some people doing SLI GTX 680M With only one 300W brick... Maybe SLI and non-sli is different ? (I don't have enough ressources, maybe they used 2 PSUs?)

 

The 680M isn't using a whole power, it's in idle.

How is the CPU score? Is it performing as it should? 
 

It would be better if you start a new thread in the hardware/modding sub forum with all the info combined. You might get more help this way. 

[SuperMG3]

10 minutes ago, triturbo said:

How is the CPU score? Is it performing as it should? 
 

It would be better if you start a new thread in the hardware/modding sub forum with all the info combined. You might get more help this way. 

CPU is good

[SuperMG3]

38 minutes ago, triturbo said:

How is the CPU score? Is it performing as it should? 
 

It would be better if you start a new thread in the hardware/modding sub forum with all the info combined. You might get more help this way. 

Later for the thread. Because I didn't test the Quadro K3000M + dual PSUs