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It’s very possible that the majority of PC gamers, install a game and simply play it. They won’t even change their default graphic settings. And they don’t even care. I was the one to teach my own son. But I remember when he’d install a brand-new game. He couldn’t care less about his graphics, or his frame rate. He would just be so excited to play the game that it didn’t matter. The 9060XT 8GB is the “On/Off Switch for PC gamers” Option A: No graphics card, (Cannot play games at all) Option B: I have a 9060XT, I can actually play games now. 🙂 They wanna force an upgrade out of em down the road too! 😂

Oh my goodness!

Why does it look so bad? For some reason when I zoom in, it looks like a 8 year old spray painted this thing.

How are you cooling the card?

If you swap from a glass panel to a mesh panel this is what happens. Sound travels with the air. Every 5090 has some level coil whine. That’s just what it is. Astrals, FE’s, the list goes on.

If the 5080FE wasn’t power limited it would help its case for sure. I have no problem taking on “Non flashed/Non shunted” 5090 Astrals with my 5090FE in Steel Nomad or other benches. But it is unfortunate for the 5080FE. Still a good card for $999 for FE. But, that 360w VS. 450w is a clear 25% less TGP disadvantage. Another thing about the 5080 that sucks, is how the die is laid out it has (4) shunts. So you would have to solder on (4) shunts to power mod it 😂

@electrosoft I don’t think he is big on flashing otherwise he’d be running that Giga Chad bios on his Astral from Gigabyte, and he’s on stock Astral bios. He just likes dog’n on the ole FE. 🤣

I’ve had great luck with them. Like many others. My 2080Ti FE was 2080Ti HOF fast. Me personally, I don’t care what it is so long as you can make it fast, a GPU is a GPU. Many golden 4090’s were in the form of FE. motivman had a crazy good 4090FE. That thing absolutely ripped. I’m all for cheap+fast. But I don’t overthink the stock form it comes in. But I understand that some people may not modify their own cars, they may want that high HP right out of the box. You gotta take a solder iron to any of them this generation. Unless you’re Linus lol.

Well, not quite but I get what you mean. My 5090FE was $1,999. But not sure if any one else on here got one for that much. 😕 It was really a select few. The market is crazy. I think that Doom inspired 5080 is really cool though, and if someone did not own a 5080/5090 already. I can see my self buying that for $1,899.99 with the T-Shirt. It comes with a few other goodies too. PS: Bethesda Gear store has a 10% off promotion code for first time orders. So, $1,709 (Still terrible for a 5080, but it’s a really cool 5080 at least!) This brings back nostalgia for me mainly. Because my first Nvidia graphics card was a eVGA Doom 6600GT. And I thought it was the coolest thing ever. I was 14 years old and you wouldn’t believe what I did. I removed that tiny dinky cooler, bought me some Artic Silver 5, and a massive CPU heatsink, and I zip tied it to the 6600GT. I was running 3Dmark01SE and 3Dmark03 and whooping all the other 6600GT’s 🤣 I loved my Doom edition 6600GT. This is when it all started for me. I think the Astral is pretty cool already, and a Doom theme Astral is even better! The only thing I dont like is the 16GB GDDR7, but still, if I didn’t own a 5090 ready, I’d get that. foto vinden op internet

Yep, recording with Shadow Play is at least a 5% loss in frame rate for me. I did hear someone say the latest drive also improves performance by 2%. I was using the older driver. Too graphically demanding for a Doom game though. 🤣

It’s a crusher on native 4K! My 4090 Laptop will probably run it good, but it’s 2560x1600P, and Frame Gen will be its savior. But I think something like a RTX 3090 would really struggle. Frame Gen is excellent feature.

That’s excellent! I almost bought a copy from another guy who received a free copy as well. But then I discovered it’s free for Game Pass users, This new Doom game well, It’s not the typical Doom which are usually “Amazingly optimized on Vulkan” game, prior Doom mentality is = (run it maxed out on any GPU ya got) lol. 4K native pushes the 5090 ridiculously hard and actually uses it! Makes no sense though. Of course, DLSS+Frame Gen make it run really really easy. But, I don’t understand why they did this. It should not be this hard to run.. My 5090FE smacks it down hard, especially when I’m not recording gameplay, but not everyone has a 5090 lol. This game would whoop something like a RTX 5080 during 4K Native 🫠

DOOM Dark Ages is very fun! It is on Game Pass for free with subscription!

I am clapped out at 3420Mhz! @jaybee83 I don't think all the 5090's are going over 3,400. But to run even your 3,240Mhz in game is going to require a shunt mod, waterblock, and great custom cooling. You can get the EV2 and adjust voltage if you need to go up a some more in voltage as well. But, I would shunt mod and waterblock that card for maximum performance. Looks great to me! Very high clocks, they will be even higher in your Hwinfo effective by the way. You should be able to get some good results in Steel Nomad. Time to see what this thing can do on the dyno meter! I might survey the overclock.net guys see what they are getting as well for max overclock.

Can you try with MSI AB? GPU Tweak 3 is inflating mine for some reason.

Mine is was normally 3442@30c my voltage was not hitting 1075mv though, I think it's because the card was 31c this evening, and when I last checked I was on driver 572.83 which may be why it was 3,442Mhz before, right now I am on 576.28. Just had a hard gaming session though. Card was absolutely heat soaked to the max! 😄

I don’t know why it may be flawed. I just know that’s how everyone else gets/compares their baked in VFcurve on their GB202 die. What application are you going by to show these max clocks? Run steel nomad, and tell me your GPU voltage range when he’s driving through the gate on his hover bike. Reset your card to default clocks.

Simple explanation. My card idles at 180Mhz if I overclock it and add +50Mhz to my core offset it will idle at 230Mhz now. My VFcurve is also gone up +50Mhz, so instead of 2932@1065mv it is now 2982@1065mv. If I add a +475Mhz offset to my core, it’ll idle at 655Mhz. And my VFcurve would go up to 3407Mhz@1065mv Your card has a factory overclock. You must subtract the idle speed from 180Mhz. If I could flash your bios to my FE, it too would have a factory overclock which would increase my VFcurve just like manually overclocking, which increases your VFcurve. You are not factoring what the silicon would run by its self based on its programmed VF curve, you are accounting for that+ the overclock.

Right, but that’s including a factory applied OC if so, it’s not the true VFcurve. To find out what your real core offset is on both Astrals, you have to subtract their stock idle speed from 180Mhz. Nvidia spec 5090 idle is 180Mhz. So, if your card idles any bit over 180Mhz, you have to subtract that from your 2977Mhz which correlates your real VFcurve. If your card idles 190Mhz it’s 2967@1085mv If your card idles at 230Mhz it’s 2927@1085mv. Anything on top of 180Mhz is a overclock on top of the default clock pre-applied through the bios from the AIB. @electrosoft 5090 Astrals can have different idles. Crazy I know. But they can! So this can skew the default VF curve and what it actually may be. See below.

@electrosoft The Astral in that video was just like yours! It too was 1115mv@2977. Anyways, you need to subtract your idle clocks to get a fair comparison between these Astral's VFcurve. So, my FE is idle 172-180Mhz. The Astral might idle at 226Mhz-262Mhz which would mean you need to subtract to get your correct VFcurve. Your cards might idle at a different frequency. This is all for fair comparison if you are comparing Astral's. So, whatever your idle is over +180, that is how much you will subtract from your VFcurve.. If I go just +75 on my core my cards 1065mv point is now 2,997 , my card would also idle at 240Mhz. Anyways, so with Astral typically its 225-262Mhz is idle but I heard it varies. So, if your 1085MV is 2,970Mhz. This number is inflated by your factory OC which is inflating the VFcurve. So, Check your idle clocks, subtract until you get 180 then subtract the difference from your Vfcurve point, and that is your true VFcurve. Idle Clock Speed= 232Mhz 232-180= 52 Original VFcurve 2,977@1.115mv Minus 52= 2925Mhz. "True 1.125MV Vf Curve= 2925" ^This is just an example. But, I would definitely bench these two cards head to head. Not that the voltage matters all that much. I personally am after a high VFcurve regardless of what its max voltage is or may be. Also, make sure its on OC bios, that will affect its VFcurve directly. Also, do not discount that lower voltage card. It may do very well. My FE does very well it's only a 1050mv/1075mv. But so long as your VFcurve is good, it does not matter what the heck your max voltage is. You are going to have to put the pedal to the metal on both Astrals in Steel Nomad/Port Royal and see which one wins! Who knows, they could clock the same. I want to see some numbers!!! 😀

Just imagine 6090. It will attract every scalper in the world. And it will be $2,999.99 for 6090FE. I think 5090 is my last GPU. PC gaming is coming to an end for the masses. We better enjoy these last 2 years.

How come you are not running the 4090 Suprim with that fresh new waterblock in the X870 Apex rig? That waterblock looks amazing. I wanted one of those for my 4090. I love the full enclosure design. They are a little more expensive than the basic Alphacool Blocks, but you go and look at a review of those. And that Alphacool Core block actually matches the ($500 dollar) EKWB double sided BPSP blocks. Could you share some temps of that block, and also show your water temp?

I remember Star Wars outlaws giving the 4090 a serious work out. And with the 5090 it seems like the performance difference is huge! I never played with Outlaw graphics settings daily before, but the 5090 laughs at this game. I think they have done some optimization as well. Starwars Outlaws with "Outlaw" Graphic settings uses power just like Steel Nomad benchmark! This is some serious power consumption, and a serious Ray Tracing work out! FE is in a closed case only reach 50% fan speed at 600W. My card never reaches power levels like this in a game! So it must be something serious I suppose. If something were to burn, this is where it’ll happen lol.

My card is just an FE so nothing spectacular! That guy with 1.125v FE card benches his on cold air, GPU temps in 40’s at 15,750 in Steel Nomad, I can’t really compete with that man. I can break 15,600 in Steel Nomad with GPU temps in 60’s. But I haven’t tried any cold air yet though. 🤷‍♂️

I don’t really like that color and scheme. Standard Astral or Astral LC is fine. Asus and their colors that add thousands is ridiculous man. Remember the “White Strix Phase” if it was white and was a Strix it added like $500-$800 to the price 🤣