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It’s going to be a work in progress for sure. I want to do a full-on build with it. I’m thinking at least 2-4 (480mm) radiators, distribution plate, and hard line tubing. I want to really emphasize on incorporating a drain for ease of access if I need to work on things, and I’ll leave off the QD3’s. But I might still go soft tubing. I’ll probably go all white with the radiators and white fans! I’ve never done and hardline or used a Distro plate. But, it seems like the way to go. I may still go black fans and black rads. I don’t think it matters too much, it seems like either option would look nice. (I’m not using any RGB fans, so if they are white, they’ll just be plain white) I’d love to watercool the GPU as well. But may just wait to do that using the next gen graphics cards. We’ll see. I’m going to order up an another dual D5 top so I can combine my single D5’s all in to dual D5’s. And easily run (4) D5’s in the basement. I’m gonna give this normal case thing with normal rads a try. It’s been a while since I have used a case or radiators at all. I really just want something low maintenance and quiet that’s all enclosed and reliable. The main things I’m struggling with are where I’m going to put things at. Which parts to order and stuff. White or black lol. Do I build vertical motherboard or normal. Vertical GPU or normal. So many choices.

Guys and gals, I am throwing in the towel!!! The towel for my Test Bench that is. I have been using a Praxis Complete Edition Full for 40 months now, I bought my Praxis Complete Full bench 08/2021!! I never went to a case once in all this time. I loved it, I was always happy. But now I am just not content with it anymore. I want to put the Dominus and Xeon 3175X in an enclosure and do a proper build. I’m still going to use my Chiller. I’m planning to still use all of my pumps etc. I’m just bored to death and burned out with this test bench. I bought a Lian-Li V3000 for $200 bucks brand-new on Amazon, I couldn’t find a better deal case wise. The thing is a BEAST. It’ll fit the Dominus and all of my D5’s. I’m so excited to build inside of a regular case once again!

Loose in the socket is how we roll 😃My Dominus Extreme + Xeon 3175X is loose in the socket. The newer HEDT and Server grade intels are all like this as well as far as I know. Honestly. I might just use the regular EKWB 360 Nucleus. The EKWB DD AIO is sold out anyways. I really love the Cooler Master Sub-Zero 360mm AIO. And I really just want to test how other AIO’s compare. The Sub-Zero has some down sides. Mainly that it is always using 200+ watts anytime it’s running. That tech plate stuff uses power similar to my 1/2HP Chiller. It works very well, but it can heat a case up to 115f inside in no time.

I’m not using the die frame, never used those before with LGA 1200. I just want to use the actual AIO. I’m not sure if the mounting holes will line up or not for the actual AIO block. It says LGA 1700 support only. But the standard Nucleus fits LGA1200/LGA1700. So, I’m wondering how that is. EDIT: Looks like the Nucleus AIO CPU mounting brackets is removable, so I should be able to just mount the Nucleus LGA 1200 AIO Bracket on the Nucleus 360 direct die, which should make it compatible. This looks like a match made in heaven to me!

I’m looking at getting the EKWB Nucleus 360mm AIO for my 10900K to test it out. And I see they fit LGA 1200, now I’d rather have the EKWB Nucleus 360 Direct Die due to raised bottom and better DD performance. Since the mounting bases of these look the same, couldn’t I make the EKWB 360 Nucleus DD work with lga1200? Main reason I’m asking is the EKWB Nucleus 360 Direct Die says LGA 1700 only. But, it would work pure amazing on a 10900K.

Cooler is a CoolerMaster Cryo Subzero 360mm, this is the one that comes with the LTX Golden sample 10900. It can get the CPU down to like 0c idle if you enable “Unrestricted mode”. It’s very fun for benching the 10900K! I leave standard “Cryo Mode” enabled for daily and this automatically monitors ambient temps, and stays above dew point so condensation will not develop and make water. The B580 is really good! I’m seriously amazed by how fast it is. It absolutely mops the RTX 3060 Strix OC 12GB, and that 3060 has a really really heavy overclock on it, and it’s in a much faster system with a 12900KS+DDR5. I’ve been playing on this thing more than my 4090 rig. The 10900K does such a good job, and it’s not even overclocked, the ram isn’t even overclocked still running XMP DDR4 3200. Looking at Firestrike and Timespy graphics score performance, this stock B580 is on par or even faster than a RTX 4060Ti in some synthetic testing. I’m not really sure how this translates to actual gaming performance so far across all games and titles against a 4060Ti. I just know it’s WAY faster than this 3060 12GB Strix OC. I was expecting similar performance, and maybe slightly faster at times. I was not expecting it to be 50% faster than an overclocked 3060 Strix OC 12GB. We used the iGPU for about a week. And I had it overclocked. It was capable of 1280x720 or 1920x1080 with very low graphics settings in just about any game out. So that’s how we ran the Trash Dog, until plugging in the ARC B580 which really lit up the system! Im running games at 4K on my living room with more than fast enough performance to play. I’m ordering a new case for this system, I actually had a Corsair 3000D that I was going to build this in, but it wasn’t fitting well with the AIO and this separate AIO pump, to the point where I’d have to remove a bit of material on the case or the AIO, so I’m returning this Corsair 3000D to Amazon, and I’m going to get something else. If you look at the pictures, Trash Dog’s case is already been cut to fit a 360mm AIO, this is a trashy case already which I didn’t really mind doing. 😎

Guys the Intel B580 is a RIPPER!! My son’s RTX3060 12GB is really fast! It will already outperform stock RTX 3060’s by about 15%. The reason for his really fast 3060 is because it’s a Strix OC with a +120 and +1350 overclock and of course the 210 watt bios helps. This completely stock B580 can outrun the heavy OC 3060 12GB by 50% in Firestrike. Below is the 12900KS+3060 OCed+DDR5 6800, VS the stock 10900K/DDR4 3200/B580 all stock and all stock power limits.

Meet “Trash Dog” the new living room RIG!!! The name is a long story. But essentially trash dog consist of some scraps and spare older parts but that’s not how his name came to be. Me and my son played on this system in the living room for a few days now with just the iGPU we have had a blast playing on it with no GPU at all! My son would always say “Let’s see how Trash-dog can run it” referring to installing and opening one of his favorite games, and “run it” as in how smooth it’ll be lol. (Usually not very smooth 😆) CPU: LTX Golden Sample 10900K SP106 Mobo: Aorus Z490 Ram: G.Skill 4x16GB DDR4 3800cl14 PSU: NZXT C1000 Cooler: Coolermaster 360 Sub-Zero Cryo GPU: Intel B580 12GB

It’s for the ltx gold 10900 system. That thing absolutely sucks without no dedicated GPU. The iGPU is more or less useless the motherboard only has HDMI out, and that can only run the desktop at 4K@24HZ it’s really a poor experience. I may run it on the Dominus in the future in a pinch if I sell the 4090. I had a modified bios with Rebar added on my other Dominus. Also, check this out. So, I sold one of my Dominus boards right. So before shipping it out, I pulled my daily Dominus and installed the other Dominus that I bought on eBay as “Not working/Un-tested”, wanted to do a good thorough testing with 192gb ram all slots filled just to make sure it works 100% before shipping to someone as “Working”, I briefly tested it before with 1 ram slot just loading in the bios, so I wanted to do a full Windows load, run a game with it etc. Turns out, this one doesn’t have the cold bug 🤣 and this one is using some much older microcode that is just blistering blistering fast. So I ended up shipping my daily Dominus to the buyer and keeping this eBay Dominus instead. 😎 No cold bugs, and OG Microcode before all the Spectre meltdown stuff. Buyer was assuming board would have cold bug anyways, because I didn’t know if it did or didn’t lol. Also, I knew that my Dominus was absolutely 100% reliable. So It really ended up working out better. I also sent the buyer the parts to repair the cold bug as well. (My Daily Dominus included a whole reel of small SMD’s to repair the cold bug that it had) so I sent him some of these. Central Computers literally just gave me an update. Ordered early Friday morning, tracking provided Tuesday afternoon. 🙏

Anyone else ever have problems ordering from Central Computers? This is the 2nd time this has happened on orders. I’ve only ever ordered two things before from them. But they just never complete the order, and it never gets to shipping. I feel like something is up. 03/15 I ordered a 14900KS on Monday morning, 2 days went by and it just sat in “Order processing”. By Wednesday evening I cancelled the order and was refunded. 12/13 I ordered an Intel B580 after receiving the in-stock alert. The order has just been sitting in “Processing” since 12/13. I feel like I may have to cancel this one as well since it’s 12/17. I’ve never had this problem with Amazon or Newegg. Does anyone else have this happen to them? It feels like a central Computers has a really long processing time or maybe ordered are getting left unattended to. Was hoping to get this Intel B580 by Christmas. Now they show “Out of Stock”🤷‍♂️

Yes, the Intel B580 was a home run. The native performance is VERY GOOD! It starts to make even bigger strides at 1440P, and then even larger gaps at 4K. The Intel scaling really works, and their XeSS frame gen puts some abnormally large gaps between the 4060. I’m so impressed such a GPU can even perform this well for $250. I had to buy one and be a part of the movement. So I hope it makes Intel a viable option. About the 4090, I probably will get a 5080 or 5090 at least. I think it depends on the pricing. I really can’t see my self spending more than $1,800+ tax for a 5090 though. They honestly should not be more than that. But if they are like $2,299+ Tax. I’ll be getting a cheaper 5080 to enjoy the new tech features, and lower power. 🥹 The Intel B580 will be going in the 10900K rig. Or used in my main rig when needed. Anyways, I like to play games in full 4K fidelity. And with GTA 6, Kingdom Come Deliverance 2, Witcher 4, and many others coming out. I have a feeling there’s going to be something that slams the 4090 in to submission. So far there hasn’t really been anything as of yet. I like a minimum 68-70FPS avg with DLSS Quality+FG, those features alone have really been the saving grace for making it such a beast for so long.

Yeah me too. But I couldn’t find one either. I should have bought one during pre-order but I wasn’t sure about performance and now I regret waiting lol. My 4090 is a late model Gigabyte 4090 Gaming OC with the revised and stronger PCIe tail hook.

Just ordered an Intel Arc B580 Steel Legend. May be off loading the 4090 soon for a good price. What about 7980XE or 9980XE?

I would experience it, but mainly because I would bleed the chips dry on voltage so they used as little power as possible, and also ran cooler, so I think I would just be running too close to the stability barrier because I always ran with an undervolt (Auto voltage with some manually fixed low LLC, or manually set acll/dcll) I'm not sure what the issue was with Zoom, I assumed compatibility problems, I never could fix it. But I also use Windows 11 so maybe that's why. From 13900K to 14900KS I never could get Zoom to work. I love finding an absolute minimum voltage for a CPU and sticking with that. No more and no less. Just locked in voltage. And I could typically do this with Intel 13/14th Gen, I could run Ycruncher undervolted with reduced power and assume all is well until it tells you it's not stable one day. Whether that one day is due to a new game launching usually lol. Again, this was more or less my own fault because I always undervolted and pushed for lowest load voltage possible. None of these issues were the reasoning for me selling my stuff though, I just was bored and did not want to try the Z890/285K stuff. And I really only used Zoom once per month with work.

That’s good to hear. I really enjoyed Z790 but it wasn’t completely reliable though. I had some periodic troubles with it. Main thing being out of GPU memory was annoying that would randomly creep up, and also Zoom would not work on the 13/14 gen cpu’s for some reason. I don’t know what that was about. I haven’t had any issues on my Dominus or 3175x.

I have found a lot of the AMD and Intel guys are a bit heavy with their emotions and brand loyalty. I totally understand that AMD has grown in to a great performing CPU and it’s definitely not just the value chip anymore. But people completely throw rationality out the window sometimes. My brother is a huge AMD fanboy. I get in to debates with him via text/call like all the time 🤣 Sometimes it really feels like he’s gonna get AMD tattooed on his cheeks man.

Looks great! Very very nice build! Now, you gotta go and grab a few more 3465X chips and bin them up. 😂 I’m 100% kidding of course. My brand new Xeon w3175X ended up being worse than my first one lol. So, I swapped back to my old chip. There wasn’t a huge difference between them which tells me these chips are all probably pretty consistent to one another. 1st w3175X runs 4.7Ghz@1.205V 2nd w3175X runs 4.6Ghz@1.215V How has the reliability been on this thing? This I’m unsure about. I think either option can push really close to the boundaries on RDIMM ECC DDR5 overclocking stability though, biggest thing seems to be ram setup overall. Watch out for the Asrock W790 2.0 it has a very very stripped down I/O port setup unless you’re okay with that. I’d probably just opt for the regular Asrock W790, or Asus W790 from what I’ve read these are really good at ram OC. I don’t think these boards are too drastically different with W790. Maybe just go for what has your favorite features and best price. See this thread here and 350+ pages for more detail on W790 and ram tuning. I learned a lot here about the platform! https://forum.level1techs.com/t/w790-memory-overclocking/194169/81?page=5

Yeah. This little AIO is impressive for what it is. I mean, this is really cool being a simple and very small package cooler. Of course, it cannot compete with my chiller+tank. But it’s still very good for what it is. I always wondered how the EKWB Tec plate block/cooler would work if hooked up to my custom chilled loop lol. I would be water chilling a EK Tec block so maybe working double time. Stability testing Intel 13th/14th gen is done best by using your daily apps. Run your games, run your programs and you become the stability tester not a stability testing app telling you “All good”, that’s how I always did it with great results. You can pass several things and think it’s okay and 100% stable. Download a new game, and it won’t open it as it fails during the shader compiling lol.

It’s working extremely well now! I downloaded just the regular version and set the “Cryo” mode. I saw the idle temps go from 43c to 20c in like 20-30 seconds lol. After running R15 the max temps were much much lower. I love this cooler. This is actually really impressive seeing this. This 10900K seems to be a gem so far. I ran R15@5.3Ghz and it only hit 180 watts max. This is madness. I remember hitting 298 watts on a direct die 10850K on custom loop cooling. And it was a really good sp85 chip. So this chip is not delidded at all, and only on an AIO, it’s absolutely killing it. I’ve got to put this thing on the chiller/big boy extreme loop.

Are you using Windows 10? That’s probably why your Cinebench scores are low then and not using the E-Cores. I had that issue before. You need a newer Windows 10, or preferably Windows 11. I remember this happen to me when I first upgraded to 13900K on launch.

I’m testing the 10900K LTX SP106 currently. And it does really well so far. Or at least I think so. I’m running all-cores at 5.0Ghz@138 watts max with an AIO during R15 Cinebench. This cooler doesn’t seem all that great, or maybe it’s not working properly. 🤷‍♂️ Temps are peaking at 92c package still. I’m not all that impressed with the subzero so far, unless I’m using it wrong. I may have to check the mount as well. This seems kinda toasty for sub 140 watts. @Clamibot Nevermind. I found the software download url in the manual! It’s working now. Holy crap works so MUCH BETTER… 😃

It’s strange because it is quite the opposite for other chips. Using my 3175X I can run R15 at 5.0Ghz probably lol. But R23 is gonna hit limits at 4.7-4.8Ghz range. So there is something with the instruction used on a 13/14th gen chip that makes R15 the toughest of them all. @electrosoft @Mr. Fox I really had to take a close look to even see a motherboard inside that big case at all!!! Wow. Where’s it at? 🤣

Cinebench R15 was always troublesome with Intel 13/14 gen chips. It was always the hardest to run of R20/R23/R24. If you can run R15 then the dang thing can run Ycruncher with the same settings. That’s just how it is with the P/E core chips using R15. Sometimes TVB can cause issues, sometimes you may need it on/off. Just know R15 is tough on these chips. If I can run R23/R24 with 1.225V completely stable. Then that means R15 will need 1.250V+ to run lol. If you wanna get an Intel 13/14th gen stable of it can pass R15, it’ll pass anything.

Getting ready to test the new Xeon w3175X. This thing was brand new and sealed. Just opened it up. Shall the best Xeon win! This will be easy though, because I know my chip well by this point.

@Mr. Fox @electrosoft So when I meant harder to sell, I mean imagine I’m running direct die on a 13900KS, and then I’m contemplating selling it. There’s a whole process to do most buyers want a sealed chip, unless you get lucky but there still work involved either way. I’ve gotta pull the chip clean the die, redo the Liquid Metal, clean the solder off the original IHS and then reseal the CPU with black silicon making sure it is exactly lined up and even, re-latch back in to a socket so it can cure with pressure being applied, let’s not forget I need to run it again to make sure temps are adequate (No hot cores) all of this takes a lot of time and work all just to sell a CPU lol. Usually half a day. And then you want to let it sit in the socket for 24 hours for good cure so IHS doesn’t lift on you causing a gap between die and inner IHS. Plus LM splashes bad in shipping it’s gonna be a mess under the IHS of a delidded cpu that gets shipped if the buyer lifted the IHS again. Now with GPU’s it’s the exact same thing. Selling waterblocked GPU’s is tough. You’re limiting your market buyers to 10% of gamers who buy GPU’s who have custom loops maybe mess. Then I have to remove the block and re-mount the original cooler may need to replace pads/paste, then reinstall to check temps+function then repackage. With a stock CPU, I pull the chip wipe the paste and I’m repackaging. With GPU, I just pull GPU and package.