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I cannot believe the power of (2) HWLab GTX 480's with P28 Fans. And this setup is only using fans on one side! All in a closed case. My case temp idle is 25c, and my idle water temp is also 25c. But under a CPU load for 10 minutes my case temp increases to 28c and the top rad water is 29c and basement rad water is 29.7c. This is with a 3175X at 700-800 watt CPU load dumping that heat into my water. Honestly, it may even be more power than that. Its power reporting maxes out at 540 watts on the 3175x. It has enough juice to pull my 12v below 12v and my 5090 can never dream of even doing this. (Maybe when its shunt modded) But this loop without push/pull is ridiculously good. The water temp is reaching 1.0c or 1.7c over internal case temperature, I am running (4) D5 pumps with about 50% speed on them all. 😃 The power of BIG quality rads is amazing, and so is the power of a big case with good fans! This loop will easily handle the RTX5090 and this CPU combined. Of course, the CPU is never cranking 700+ watts sustained unless you YEET all cores lol. Typically, 120-250 in games.

Yeah, I’ve made an offer on a few things on eBay on a whim. And it always makes you attach payment method first. Wake up next day and the money is gone lol. Anyways, you keeping the Astral? I’d be tempted to keep both 5080FE and Astral if it were me. The 5080FE is amazing for the price.

Go check overclock.net FS thread of 3090KP by Jor3b. He’s legit, texted me and even made a video, and I don’t think anyone believes him. Heck they may even think my account is compromised at this point 🥴

Overclock.net don’t trust nobody selling anymore 🤣 I can’t blame them though,

I let me son use my OEM 5090FE dongle with his 3090FE. He’s got a new 2x6 plugged in to 4x8 individual 8 pins lol. (No issues for him of course it’s a 3090FE) Me, I’m running a single Gen 5.1 cable Lian Li cable with the blue safety color, it’s a replica to the Seasonic OEM stuff. This thing doesn’t even get warm. I’ve bought an amp clamp and checked my per wire amperage and they were all really good idle or load. I want to make a video of this process. It’s very cool, but before the amp clamp I a little worried about individual wire amperage spiking way up maybe, I was running blind, don’t have any monitoring like your Astral. So I feel better after checking at least. But a quality DC amp clamp is like $140 dollars man. It’s crazy we gotta do this. I might return it now actually. 🤣

Flagship is getting fast though, I think Nvidia started opening up the gap with the 4090. I remember the GTX 1080Ti being about 50% faster than a 1070. But here we are with a 5090 that’s three times than a 5070. That is nuts! 🙂

For years high end PC hardware, in the old days had dimensioning returns. A lot more expensive, for very little gain. I mean, look at the RTX 3080 for $699.99 compared to the RTX 3090 $1,499. Everyone bought a 3090 and it was barely faster stock. The 3080 for less than half the cost was churning out 80-85% the performance. But lately, the performance gap between 5080 and 5090 is absolutely MASSIVE. It’s like 85% faster sometimes. So on paper the RTX 5090 is double the specs for double the price. If only the 5090 had double the power limit it probably would be double the performance almost all the time. So with the 5080 costing $999, and 5090 costing $1,999, we are getting more value than ever before. Double VRAM, double cuda cores, and nearly double performance in the super heavy loads. I just think the main problem is AIB greed. We can only compare the 5090 Astral MSRP to the 5080 Astral MSRP. So it’s still a similar story there. For double the price of a 5080 Astral, you get double the specs with a 5090 Astral lol.

Wow! I’m surprised to hear that. I figured you’d be keeping the Astral for the long haul.

New Game ready Nvidia driver is out. Who’s trying it?

Imagine giving all 5090 owners a 1,200 watt XOC bios. 🤣 My goodness.

Big variance on FE’s for sure. Mine sips power and voltage like Tea. In the video it’s in a closed case, but If I open my case it drops a good bit more in temps.

This might seem crazy but I was expecting more from 9070XT. Maybe that 3080 could be squeezed even further! I have mine! I’m ready for FE blocks. 🫠

No one has shunted FE yet, I have not seen one. I think everyone is being a sissy about taking them apart lol. No blocks available yet, so I think most people are waiting until they have a block before shunting the card. I think shunting and re-mounting stock cooler is probably pointless. So, with my motherboard Nvinspector forced or not, I physically cannot enable Rebar. I have tried to modify the Dominus bios and dump the Rebar file on the latest bios, then flash the new modified bios, then enable rebar via CMD. And it just won't work. I lose monitor signal after setting the rebar size limit with the Rebar.exe tool. Physically impossible to make Rebar work on the Dominus which is the stupidest thing man. Because the SR3 Dark actually supports Rebar. So, with a slight PCIe Gen 3 bottleneck of 3-4% and No Rebar which cost me about another 2-3% these two things are of course setting me back on Steel Nomad severely. I should be sitting much higher than 15,350.

Thats a great run. I cannot hit more than 15.3k with mine. Not only is my Founders Edition model in the stock format holding me back, but my current platform is holding me back by about 500 points at least. My stock score is like 13,800. I just cannot get Rebar working. And PCIe Gen 3. I think it's getting about that time to retire the Dominus/3175x soon.

@johnksss Share your Steel Nomad results please.

That's what I have been going by since my 4090. The Nvidia overlay uses the GPU effective clock speed just like HWinfo does(Only I did not know this). My FE does a great job with keeping up high internal clock speeds considering how dang hot and tiny it is. You seriously need to shunt that card. If I had a block already, mine would be done. Lucky you, you have a few block choices already available for blocks, I think. @Papusan Are you watercooling your Astral lc as well?

So which one do you go by? You use MSI Afterburner OSD? So if this is the case. my care completely stock runs 2,880Mhz in games. Which I had no idea. I am curious to know how the astral is. Man, you are on your 3rd 5090 now? 🤣Nice!

Dang congrats man! So, MSI Afterburner OSD shows the external clock. Which is greatly inflated. If I go by these measurements my card is a 3.3Ghz+ queen everywhere. But the internal clock is only 3.1Ghz+ range. GPUz also only shows external clock. HWinfo has both. Nvidia Overlay shows internal clock only! I had no idea all this time, I’ve been thinking my clocks are much lower than what they actually were. 🙂

I run 3.3Ghz in games now. Do not mind the 30c I have the temp bug in latest driver 😒 lol. I can’t wait to water this bad boy. Using MSI AB below.

I need to up my storage game. I really want to do 4x4TB in raid 0 with my two Dimm 2 slots on my Dominus Extreme. I’ve been running a 2TB only. And I’m getting tired of running out of space. I don’t use Epic that much. I’ll take a look at it. I’m almost always using Steam or Gamepass. I just discovered something interesting with my 5090 FE. So my clocks were kinda pathetic.. And I guess they are, but that’s a stock 5090fe after all, however I notice using Rivatuner/MSI AB OSD, and that app shows the external clock speed. If I use Rivatuner through MSI AB it says my card is running 2,872Mhz “Stock”. The Nvidia app portrays the internal effective clock speed. Right now I’m playing KCDII and Nvidia overlay says “2,670Mhz” that’s a stock 5090fe spec. But GPUz says “2,857Mhz” and even HWInfo says “2,857Mhz” I never knew this before. But just something to consider. If I go by this number, it’s going to show some seriously inflated clock speeds. I’m actually amazed by this because if I run MSI AB as an overlay it shows some pretty WILD clock speeds of about +200 on everything. So, if I’m running just 3,270 I’m running 3,470 using your monitoring tool.

Where do I buy Alan Wake 2 at?

High voltage or low voltage the 5090’s can scale up really well I think. We just need low temps, and 1,000+ watts of power!

If your card uses less voltage it just means it probably leaks less than 5090’s that ask for more voltage. But high voltage or low voltage does not determine how high the silicon can scale. @Papusan What does your Astral voltage run at?

I’m not swapping my card. I absolutely love it! I feel like it’s a great example of what an FE is supposed to be. It’s quiet and It’s a low power 5090. I’m very happy with my silicon so far. I feel like Its an excellent sample, clocks can fly without crashing, of course I’m bound by power and temps right now. But I see absolutely no reason to waterblock/Shunt/OC any other GPU. We have what we have. This thing is used for playing games and work, I’m not stressing my self over finding something else. 😃 As far as binning goes with 5090’s that is a massive waste of time for me and most. But I know some people who are testing 3+ Astrals or 3+ other models and keeping whichever does best. The reality is, I think any 5090 is going to run 3,200 internally and some models may run 3,400 internally (Once shunted and on water of course) @electrosoft I thought the 5080FE was overclocked faster than 5090FE by default. But, it isn’t and that’s interesting.. That’s exactly what my 5090 runs at, Your 5080 looks perfectly fine to me though. These cards are not factory overclocked, that boost and voltage is identical to what my 5090 does 2,887 stock. You have essentially added +300 in core and +3000 memory and gained +20 watts more. Your load voltage is even less than stock clocks as the card is still power limited. Notice your voltage went down with the higher overclock even though it’s 1 degree cooler and only 270 watts that card is power limited before even hitting its power limit. This is the case with 50 series unfortunately and our internal clock falls to the floor. Apparently the 5090’s can hit this limit at low 500w sometimes even 450w. You would have to do +473 or maybe +500 and increase power slider to 104% to do a more fair comparison since the Astral has a maxed power slider by default at 100% and a factory OC of +173 It’ll probably drop voltage even more though but I think the silicon can handle it. These cards are so artificially limited man it’s crazy. If you could flash it to the Astral 5080 bios, I think then you’d see it fly just for the extra power head room alone with 5080’s. Or shunt mod it. 😃

Yzonker has a 5090 Astral shunt modded and on water and he cannot lock more than 1075mv. So it really seems to be all over the place card to card.