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So for 4K, the games I play it’s primarily a GPU limit and does well! Star Wars Outlaws, KDC2, CB2077, Indiana Jones, Ark Ascended. Tarkov which I just started playing that has really shown me just how weak my CPU is. The game uses like 3 or 4 cores lol.😂 But yeah I’m getting bored with the platform. I’ve had it over 6 months. I plan to swap it out in a bit. It has been very reliable for my work apps though. And for some reason it has always done better for work than something like my previous 13900/14900 setups. I am considering 9900X3D/9950X3D or testing out an Intel 285K (I feel like I could whip that 285K in top shape). If I ran either I’d want 2x48GB ram. I’m not really after super fast ram anymore, I could care less if it’s 2 dimm or 4 dimm board. Lately I’m more in to boards with lots of I/O and features. Godlike/Extreme etc. For now current setup gets it done though. You may want to hang on to it, the market right now is pure insane. Pricing is worse since launch. I’m also thinking about trying an Intel 285K. I feel like this would be a good CPU. Not sure if I’m ready to move to AMD yet. The idea of something lower power usage is nice.

I know the Nvidia VPA was running heavy from late February and in to March. It seemed like they were picking 4090 owners, then out of no where they started sending buy links to 3080 owners apparently per Reddit polls lol. I think there might be a low stock on 5090FE or maybe Nvidia is selling all the 5090 pallets to China or companies at over retail cost lol. $1,999.99 seems like a freaking bargain compared to $3,599.99. These AIB MSRP’s are getting insane. I mean, for a PNY? 🤣 That’s usually bought because it’s in-stock and a little less expensive. @win32asmguy I’m running a Xeon w3175X and Dominus Extreme, which is old as the hill. But it gets the job done surprisingly. Running PCIe Gen 3 x16, I have no ReBar at all and Skylake architecture. It’s really an old CPU. It is overclocked to the absolute max on ambient water 4.7Ghz on all cores HT on, 3.3Ghz mesh, and DDR4 3800cl14 50ns latency. It’s typically always pushing the 5090 in 4K. I admit that overclocking my GPU is pointless most of the time, and some games like Tarkov really are all about the CPU. But this thing rips. I can run monster hunter and Cb2077 benches and compete similar to other modern rigs in 4K. Even Unigine Haven throws down! 😃 I’m impressed with the old pig. It could be since your system is dual CCD and OCTO channel and there’s a latency hit. But the IPC on your rig is definitely there!

What is everyone’s idle power consumption with their 5090’s? (All windows closed out except for GPUz sensors page opened) I’m seeing 12 TO 21 watts range steady so far. Seems really good to me.

Dang it’s a Suprim too right? Lucky! MSI has joined the ranks of glamorous price tags here in the US. Their laptops and GPU’s.

Are you running a 5090 as well? Actually I think you got a TUF OC maybe. I’m on an Escape from Tarkov kick lately, and the 5090 is a bit overkill here, but I bought the game for me and my son to play together. Everytime we kill someone in the game they’ll see: You were killed by “Luv-My-5090” or if my son takes them out, they’ll see: You were killed by “Luv-My-3090” 😂 Anyways, I can only image the Astral gives that extra added Cadillac experience for sure. It better! 😁 Not gonna lie, if I had the budget I’d probably have an Astral. But I’ve got to settle. I’m just glad I’m content. It’s definitely hard to find that with high end PC hardware, some parts are duds or just terrible, swapping same model for same other model is common in this hobby. So I’m glad I’m not chasing that. I remember the feeling when I bought that MSI 4080S Expert, I liked it, but didn’t love it. Wasn’t content with it. 🤣

The only thing I can agree with from Nvidia and recommend about Nvidia is the 5090FE is legit, and they let me actually buy one and that’s about it. That’s some serious brain washing to be thankful to have a chance to buy one and not overpay to the AIB’s. It’s a great GPU though, we have a true 2080Ti sized GPU only with insane levels of power, which is really cool that we can fit this little 2 slot card in anything. Looking at the prices of hardware. CPU’s/Memory/SSD’s/PSU’s/Cases. It seems like everything cost about the same except for GPU’s. It’s really odd! It really must just be the AI boom responsible for all of this? I don’t know. But you definitely don’t want to see MSI’s new prices for their 5090’s.. 😬 MSI wants to be like Asus now. 🥴

I love new clear soft tubing! Especially when it’s fresh cut and just installed. It looks fantastic. My 14900HX/4090 gets the job done decent enough. I can’t see replacing it. I use my laptop about 2 whole days per week. I think it’s gonna be some years before we see real improvements here. I figured you’d keep the 5090. Mines running pretty good as well. I leave it at 2760@0.900mv with +3,000 on the memory. It runs about 73c core/82c memory and 44% fan speed is the highest I’ve seen in a closed case. I’m so happy with it though. It’s nice and quiet! My chiller is idle in the corner now since I stopped using it, and my office is completely silent! My home power bill has dropped about $120 per month by the way just from unplugging the chiller. I had no idea the chiller used this much power, but I’m now thinking I was off on my prior estimates of power usage lol. Chillers are expensive to run 24/7/365. It definitely cost $ to maintain a constant 15c water year round.

Looks like 5090 is a lot faster than the 5080 than I originally thought. The 5090 is a beast! Definitely keep your Astral! On average the 5090 is about 50% faster than 5080, and in some scenarios it’s like 65%. Very impressive. The gap is definitely growing.

NICE!! I think the Astral looks very GOOD in my opinion. Big in your face GPU Godzilla! So, since you have a 5080FE already which was $999. I can see why you may struggle with keeping the Astral for that much cash. The 5080FE value is already impressive! I have to agree about the coil whine. I felt the same way about my 5090FE. you have to open the door and place your ear right beside the GPU and listen to it, I thought my 5090FE sounded amazing! Good luck on your decision! Excellent graphic card.

Several variants of this should already exist. Just give us a massive thick brick that has PCIe slots and cpu sockets lol. It’s easier than making tiny BGA machines. That would be nice. I’m quite enjoying my BGA Turd book though. 14900HX+4090 Mobile. The thing RIPS! But, I kinda wish it was not so locked down. And I wish I had a little more juice for the GPU TDP. It seems to have the cooling headroom. I really need 200w TGP.

The Astral price is really steep! But these cards have a really good cooler which provides great temps and also really good clocks. I think the bios is pretty good on these Astral cards. Seems like Asus tried to release a solid product this go around that actually matched the extravagant price tag. I remember everyone including @Mr. Fox was complaining how terrible the 4090 Strix OC was and how it was overpriced gamer boy junk.. So at least the 5090 Astral gives you something, good cooling, looks cool, injured wallet, and high core overclocks. But it’s essentially still a 5090 at the end of the day. So I think you gotta determine if it’s worth the price. If I bought a 5090 Astral I’d probably keep it knowing me lol. It’s a very nice GPU. Then again, I really appreciate my 5090FE for $2,100 all in. I think with the VRAM size, and performance uptick in 4K heavy RT, it can straight whoop my 4090 by 50%. And if we use heavy up scaling with 4K, the gap REALLY grows. The 5090 memory bandwidth is strong. It’s nice we have so many options. Truth is, 4090 is so fast already it is more than enough juice. Heck, even my laptop 4090 is fast enough for majority of gamers. This 10900K can do low power 5.3Ghz, it was like 170-180 watts running R15. I want to say it could run 5.0Ghz with like 1.075v. I did very very minimal testing on it. I wish I could have ran it properly with a Z490 Apex on the test bench and chiller. My motherboard was a Z490 Aorus piece of crap to the max (I hated this board, I hate its bios and it was so horribly unstable) I had a 10850K SP84 that was direct die cooling, and on a massive multi-pump custom loop with external rad cooling which used 298 watts at 5.3Ghz, and this 10900K on a 360mm AIO “Not even delidded” would absolutely smash that thing! It was pure impressive how much better this 10900K was. Since I bought a 14900HX/4090 laptop, I didn’t need this 10900K system really. And it was just sitting in my living room. @electrosoft When I first saw the prices on 5090 MSI Laptops, I thought they have gotten super greedy man. And this is pure hilarious to see them now. 😂 I mean, what was MSI even smoking to begin with..Not sure who is paying 5K+ for a MSI Raider. It’s a really great machine. But buying a barely faster than a 4090 laptop rig. For thousands more is nuts.. Also, have you overclocked your 4090 machine yet? I seem to get about +1,000 on memory with mine, but I think that’s it. Also, I noticed if I hold my laptop off the table it drops 9C on GPU temp! No cooling pad or anything fancy. Just sitting my laptop on a cup in the table lifted about 5 inches off the table it drops a straight up 9C in game. 🤯

Yep, no one wants to overpay for 5090’s anymore, I’m glad too. I’ll be curious to see how the 5090 value holds up during the 2027 launch. It’s crazy how right now, buying a brand new RTX 4090 FE for $1,599 is a great deal for a 2.5 year old product (If someone could find a brand-new 4090FE). I wonder if it’ll be a similar situation in 2027 when the RTX 6090 drops. Maybe those will be $2,499 MSRP. Probably at least $2,199.99 for RTX 6090FE. There is a Golden 10900K sp106 in the box.

Package on the way @1610ftw I may include the cat as an extra. 😂

When you get the XOC bios let me know. I want to try one. I’ve got to say though these cards can fit a lot in their power limit of 600w. When gaming we can add a very high positive offset to the core and memory, and even playing Cyberpunk they are pretty efficient using no more power than a 4090 would. The silicon seems to be good. When we overclock the GPU, the clocks go up, and the voltages go down to fit inside of power constraints. Unless of course it’s a power virus load that forces clocks to go down.

I’m going to pull my 5090FE backplate off at some point. Maybe this weekend. I have a Fujipoly full coverage 3mm ultra soft. I only need like half of it. I thought about re-doing the Liquid Metal with Conductonaut Extreme, but I think Nvidia already did an amazing job. They had to have researched this and put some engineering behind the LM application. So, if the GPU core is running 65C, the hot air blowing off the card is 60C. This tells me contact is good. The only downside to the is they make a GPU greasy. When the pad heats up, oils come off from the thermal pad sweating. Permanent layer of grease that’ll never come off the GPU again. My 3090KP HydroCopper was literally waterproof from it. Even tooth brush and 99% alcohol wont take it off. But it’s clear, so not a huge deal.

You’ve got a big case so that’s good. So it should run cool inside with full fans and a shut door. My 5090FE runs very cool in a closed case. I want more fans though. I want to put (4) fans under the 5090, and also (4) fans in the front of my case. I think (4) bottom intake fans, and (4) top exhaust fans is all you need. I’m going to follow same concept, but I’m going to add a 3rd 480mm radiator to the bottom below the 5090 so air flow is like this ^ ^ ^ ^ I really like the idea of cases now lol.

I would add some top exhaust fans and also a rear exhaust fan, doing so works really really well with this FE style cooler. Also, it is pretty cool how your 5080 looks literally identical to a 5090FE lol. Every-time I see a RTX 4080 FE now, I think about how ridiculously massive it is. Maybe they’ll add a new graph to GPU reviews now “FPS to weight ratio” 😂

You know you want one! Also, when you say open you mean no side door?

You should grab an Optimus pad for your 5090 backplate. You’ll see big temp gains. Less messy than putty.

5070 in stock for $549.99 https://us-store.msi.com/Graphics-Cards/NVIDIA-GPU/GeForce-RTX-50-Series/GeForce-RTX-5070-12G-SHADOW-2X-OC

Maybe consider parting your current system out. Probably make more money, and sell things faster. 4090’s are in high DEMAND! Especially the nicer ones.

Did you grab a 5090? AWESOME! I missed your post before! Great find.

How’s your 4090 laptop undervolting? Mine seems to be about 905mv@2355Mhz, or 0.915mv@2,400Mhz. These 79c GPU temps are impressive out of a laptop though. I think we could do something if we had just a little more power. And if I put Liquid Metal on the GPU as well, since we throttle at 86-87c, maybe can get 2,550Mhz out of one of these. I think Liquid Metal on GPU would net me 70-72c GPU temps. The performance is already really good from a mobile machine.

I signed up for almost all of them honestly, except for Windforce and Venus models! 😂 This was when AIB prices were more reasonable though. $2,549.99 for a Aorus Extreme Waterforce. (AMAZING DEAL I thought) now it’s like $2,899 which is pretty high. I never received anything from BH, they kept sending me alerts saying. “We did not forget about you etc and we’ll let you know when this item is in-stock” but that’s it. Next GPU launch in a few years, I’m going straight for Nvidia VPA again lol. Also, you got the best GPU already price vs performance I think. 5080FE@999. I don’t think it gets much better than that.

Yep BH never sent me a thing either! Some of the notifications that I signed up for even said “You’d be among the first to know” yeah right lol that provided some real false hope. I think these retailers need to offer a virtual line for new products, perform a bot check verification. Hard Limit 1 per person. Maybe hold their spot for 12 hours after notification is sent. This would make it a lot easier. I didn’t know this. But most of the GPU shortage is coming from scalpers who make a business model of this with all new desirable product launches. Would you believe that one person got (12) 5090FE’s on launch day? They made like $36,000 USD in profit by doing this. These people apparently take advantage of all product launches and try to keep it up as long as possible. It’s pretty crazy.