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Silicon has come so far though, if we didn’t have E-Cores, everyone with 13900K would be around SP110 or higher. That overall SP is really brought down by that e-core sp.

That’s what it looks like to me. My very first 13th gen that I pre-ordered was a 13900KF. It was a very good chip! I benched 6.0Ghz P-Cores with really cold water. It wasn’t stable but still, the chip was really good. I’m thinking SP116+ You can find good with either model though. But yes, slightly better chances with KF.

Igor’s lab tested (500) 13900K/KF CPU’s for P/E core SP, and IMC SP ratings lol. It looks like Intel was clearly binning for 13900KS inside of the 13900K chips. The 13900KF bunch found numerous chips beyond an SP rating of SP105+ but in the 13900K bunch, that was not the case. Based on the 13900KS’s specs, It looks like they just select a SP103-SP105+ CPU to be the target chip. This is all speculation, but it makes sense. Of (132) tested 13900K CPU’s (2) SP110 was found (1) SP113 was found (1) SP114 was found (7) SP108 was found https://www.igorslab.de/en/intel-13th-gen-raptor-lake-binning-over-500-cpus-tested-part-1-i9-13900k-and-13900kf/ I have a 13900K SP110, but I didn’t realize it’s that difficult to find one, even in a pile of chips that dang large!!

Merry Christmas everyone!!! happy holidays!!

Thank you for sharing. Those fans are blowing stuff around on the table lol. Your home looks so nice and cozy inside, I love it. Merry Christmas Papusan.

6.0Ghz P-Cores 4.7Ghz E-Cores 5.3Ghz Ring 🤩 309 watts 😍

Very nice results.

Nvidia is a jerk, so no they probably won’t add it… lol. I have a heavy OCed 3090, and I’m gonna say it’s probably only a little slower than a 4080 in situations without DLSS. The 3090’s all have the hardware on board for frame regeneration. Maybe Nvidia would add this after the 4000 series has already been around for a little while. But if they added it now, I think little reason would make a 4080 look desirable afterwards. I wish they would though.

My journey is finally complete! I have a golden chip, and its setup exactly how I want it. 318 watts max through R23 6.0Ghz P-Cores, 4.7Ghz E-Cores, 5.1Ghz Ring This is a STRAIGHT 6, just like the old days! 😁

6.0Ghz P-Cores "Auto voltage" 4.8Ghz E-Cores "Auto voltage" 5.1Ghz Ring DDR5 7400 C34 (Optimized Timings/RTL's) @1.395V in bios. 1.050V SA Voltage 1.250V VDD2 1.250V VDDQ (32) iterations of HCI Memtest. This is really a nice gaming profile right here. Yes 4.8Ghz on the E-Cores loses massive amount of efficiency. But its stable. And it is a MONSTER. I am heavily limited by my DDR5 and Unify-X. I wish I just had some Greensticks. I can stabilize DDR5 7600-7800 for games, but it's not really stable though. My IMC seems to be amazing, because I can reduce supporting CPU IMC voltages quite a bit. I can probably go below 1.00V on the SA, and 1.200V on the VDDQ/VDD2 voltages.

I have the newest revision coming. Someone was running it on their 13900K and they broke the chip apparently via accidental SMD removal, and they sold me the supercool DD block. I had to pay $150 shipped for it though 😞. They are hard to come by in todays time. The guy making them is backed up with orders. I’m running 6.0P, 4.8E, 5.1R on my current CPU for gaming work etc and hoping this will tame down temps during some heavier benches.

I lapped the IHS on my 13900K. And saw roughly 3-5C reduction on the cores. Most likely I am going to run the “Super cool” direct die setup like all these other guys are running though. Anyone have a Supercool direct die they’d be willing to sell? I have heard that 12th gen and 13th gen are the same.

Check out this 13900K. This chip is funny that's for sure! Okay so it runs abnormally hot. 10C hotter than my last 13900K at the same power levels. So, I am thinking bad TIM, or bad IHS flatness for sure. However, even with how warm it is running it's still a BOSS! It is really a flipping crazy good chip. 5.9Ghz P-Cores, 4.7Ghz E-Cores, and 5.1Ghz Ring. 1.315V set in bios.

That’s how GPU launches are nowadays. Only CPU launches are not paper launches.

That’s straight up bonkers right there man. Can’t believe the ZOTAC 4090 is doing that well.

New 13900K allows 6.3Ghz single threaded!! Woot woot!! 6.3Ghz on (4)) cores is very solid. I am still tuning it up though. 5.7Ghz and 5.8Ghz all cores are very efficient so far. I have maximum V-Droop set, so under a heavy R23 load it drops down to around 1.23V making an overclock like this possible. Wanna hear something crazy? This chip is an SP121 P-Core CPU, but it’s also a Force 135 😳 the idle bios voltage is drastically higher than my last chip. So, I’m thinking that’s where the force rating comes in to play from. My Force 124 could never run 6.3Ghz on a single core without an immediate BSOD in windows let alone (2) cores or (3) cores or more. After getting this chip, I no longer trust the MSI FORCE2 rating. My very first chip was a Force 134 and I feel like that CPU was probably a very high SP rating. Moral of the story. Test your CPU’s manually!! Of (5) 13900K’s this is the only chip that can run 6.3Ghz+ reliably. But it has a Force rating of 135 lol.

SP110 13900K is here and running in my rig. chip is SP121 P-Cores, and SP88 E-Cores. I’m working at the moment, and just running the chip stock. I’ll report back later how it performs.

That’s cool. W-3175X rules! I was tempted numerous times over getting one. EVGA Dark SR3 motherboard is glorious. They don’t exactly make sense now, with how fast the 13900K is. But it’s good Intel is putting some distance between mainstream high end platforms and their next HEDT Sapphire rapids platform. Because X299 and Z270/Z390/Z490 were always being compared to each other in gaming like it was even relevant.. Which it wasn’t.

I mean, it would be awesome to see something like that. Imagine a 13980XE only with Octa channel DDR5 and 32 P-Cores and 64 E-Cores that would be insanely powerful!!! 😎 People pick on the E-Cores. But I’m digging it, especially now they are so FAST! The 13900K and Z690 has been the smoothest platform I’ve ever owned or ran in my life, not to mention it’s not crazy expensive. Especially when it comes to gaming and working and doing multiple different things at once. I feel like the e-cores help keep windows 11 and its bloatmaster background task running okay. And my games or primary task run butter smooth on P-Cores simultaneously. This is something my 11900K couldn’t do. You would get those occasional skips and pops, primarily because the CPU was all tied up in running what I was doing at the moment. So if anything happen in the background the chip could stumble even if only for a moment. But it was a distraction. I guess it’s kind of like Satellite TV. They say 99% reliable. Well that 1% is still 14+ minutes where it’s not working in a day lol. 13900K is smooth and reliable 100% of the time.

It’s gonna be expensive, I know that! Probably $1,000-$3,000 dollar processors and $600-$1,800 dollar motherboards lol.

So the 7900XTX is only 11% faster than my 3090 in Timespy Extreme? 🧐 4090 or bust!

I’ve never seen my 13900K’s hit 5.7Ghz all cores without overclocking. So, I’m guessing a 13900KS would never hit 5.8 right? Their normal all core boost is identical? I may give +1 or +2 TVB a try with my new 13900K. Ideally I’d like to run 6.0-6.4 with it. Or at least 5.9-6.3.

13900KS performance leaks https://videocardz.com/newz/intel-core-i9-13900ks-is-10-faster-than-i9-12900ks-in-first-single-core-synthetic-tests

Are you upgrading from a 3090Ti Supreme X?

Force 165 wouldn’t be that bad for a 12900KS. Some 13900K’s are Force 160’s. Average seems to be Force 149 for 13900K.