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I’m really happy with my 13900KF. I think its a keeper for sure. I’m really glad I upgraded. Massive improvement over the 11900K. Looking at how these compare to 12th Gen it is just amazing! PS: DDR5 7200 will be here tomorrow Hynix A die. @Mr. Fox Delidding your 12900KS only builds that confidence for the 13900K delid. I think 6Ghz all core is very doable once delidded. Anyways, no matter how many times we’ve delidded, after that 11900K incident yeah I’d be nervous about Delidding too, I tore my 1st 11900K up pretty bad ripped of (16) small SMD’s. Confidence is put in check real quick after something like that with these small fragile components. But, I’m very glad it was successful on your 12900KS. Did you heat it up first? Or just pop the IHS cold? Maybe you did too many good delids, and with the 11900K you’re like pshhhh walk in the park, I got this, delid # 398 coming right up, easy peasy lemon squeezy, I can do this with eyes closed, one hand tied behind back, “Crunch” oops. 😄

I feel like this chip is a real G for sure. I’m testing: 5.7Ghz P-Cores 4.5Ghz E-Cores 4.7Ghz Ring 1.245V set in bios. Water chiller is off, yep warm water with fans! 294 watts Cinebench R23. Hwinfo Max VID is 1.238V Hwinfo Min VID is 1.199V Update: I can run 5.8Ghz on just my radiator and fans now and normal water. That new Optimus Signature cold plate has somehow reduced temps by 10C+. I am shocked. My core temps are 78-88c with no chiller at all. 😎 If I delidded this CPU, I would probably get down in the 60’s. The truth is, I don’t need to. NO CHILLER!

Well, it’s gonna die young then I guess. Lol. My other components come first.

Y’all think my 2TB Corsair Hydro X is running too hot? I don’t want it to throttle or anything. 😁

I dodged a bullet tonight LOL. So, I had a spare Cold plate for my Optimus Signature V2 Nickel waterblock. And we know how restrictive these blocks are, they act as filters more than anything. I also had to install my watercooled Corsair 2TB M.2. Anyways, threw in the new Optimus PC cold plate fired up my rig. Started to bleed air out, and there was a PUDDLE are my CPU literally! fortunately I saw it and killed power. All from not using a large enough screw driver to tighten down the cold plate. I Torqued it down a little more with something larger, and now no more leaks! PS: The cold plate below was @Mr. Foxcold plate originally, and I have been running it for a long time now with no maintenance on just clear distilled with additives. I feel like I have added (2) extra D5’s my water pressure is through the roof! I will clean it, and it’ll go back in after this one clogs in about 1.5 years or so. This is a pic of the brand new cold plate. free image hosting free image hosting

Yeah that’s a lot of juice. I haven’t ever seen power go that crazy yet on my system. P-Cores@5.8 E-Cores@4.7 Ring@ 5.1 Power is right at 330 watts running just R23 for a minute. I’m still tuning my chip trying to decide what profile I want to run.

These chips have a great ring/cache though, mine is at x51 ring. Rocket lake would never let me go this high. And all at SUB 300 watts. I'm happy. This thing absolutely squashes my 11900K, if I could squeak by 18K with my 11900K in R23 it was a MIRACLE.

Fresh from the silicon gurus in Taiwan! upload pic

5.8Ghz P-Cores 4.5Ghz E-Cores 4.7Ghz Ring/Cache Max Power= 303 watts. I remounted my CPU, re-set my bios as well. This was also a VERY OLD windows, that has been stacked on top of over and over. So I got that situated as well. Last but not least, I reduced the voltage down to 1.275V in the bios

I reset my bios, and tried MSI FORCE2 again, I got a 132 three times in a row. I have seen some people with 150-160 on their FORCE2 rating. I’m just glad to see another brand offering some type of tool to check. Curious to hear @johnksss FORCE2 rating. PS: My chip is looking far better today for some weird reason! I am achieving some really good looking clocks with very low power numbers.

Thats awesome. What you get for the money there, it is just a crazy good value. The Nexxxos 1080x45 performs great. Plus, that enclosure includes feet as well. I don’t have the enclosure. But I’ve been wanting to get one and move my radiator off from my test bench. Make sure you flush it out good, mine was full of crud when I first got it. Nothing crazy by any means, but a few small black specs you gotta really shake the heck out of it and flush a few times is all.

|UPDATED| Ohhhhhh! A cool fancy feature. Let’s see. Drum roll please. My Ho-Hum is= 132 upload pic @johnksss What is your Ho-Hum rating?

I have some Sata ones laying around somewhere, I’ll switch over to them though. I thought these newer boards had really capable PWM headers though. This Unify-X is 24-36 watts 2-3 amps “Depending on the PWM location” for just one pwm plug. Some boards are upwards of 40 watts I believe. The pump PWM header is rated at 36 watts on the Unify-X. Anyways, that’s great you got a 13900K. Great CPU. Hopefully you’ve got a great sample coming! I re-mounted my CPU block, took my time this go around, turned off the water chiller, crossed my fingers, then prayed really hard, knocked on wood, then ran R23 LOL. It was still SUB 340 watts, just barely though. I’m only seeing about 7-8 watt difference with it on or off. I’m thinking the largest difference will be Delidding this monster and running a bare die. Temps right now with no chiller are hitting 95C on the hottest core during R23.

Are you getting a random brand new untested 13900K? Or is it pre-binned? One more thing, this MSI Unify-X is a freaking beast. One of the best motherboards I have used in a long time. I don’t know where to start, working debug LED’s is one lol. But it even includes temp sensors as well for the water. Not to mention stability in general is really top notch so far. It’s even turning my fans at a faster RPM. Usually when I plug in (10) fans in to one single pwm plug the RPM’s were never the highest on EVGA motherboards. This board doesn’t care. I was really jumping the gun before even using it, looking at other options. When in reality this board is really amazing.

Do we max out tREFI like with DDR4? I’m guessing not all DDR5 can do this. I see it goes up to like 200,000 thousands lol. Testing 90,000 tREFI. Huge BOOST! 😃

Some DDR5 modules have a voltage limit of 1.435V. It’s just a bios settings that unlocks the DDR5 PMIC so we can max out voltage for higher memory overclocking. Not all DDR5 sticks are like this though. Some do not need to be unlocked apparently. I’m using Corsair 6000 C36 currently, and it physically won’t let you send more than 1.435V. This is where this unlock comes in handy. Or not. I really won’t know until I test it a little further if there is a benefit with more voltage. But it does let me send whatever voltage I want now.

I found the PMIC unlock in the Unify-X bios! I can really juice these modules now, it works.

@Mr. Fox Yeah this ram is handling 6800Mhz just fine so far. The newer bios may have helped, and a combination of the CPU as well. The voltage is still locked to 1.435V, it physically won’t go any higher. But 6800Mhz is good for benching, gaming, etc. I don’t know if it’s actually stable or not. I also managed to drop SA voltage to like 1.15V. Apparently auto was pushing like 1.450V. Raptor lake doesn’t need much for high ram speeds. Also, I get the feeling you’ve given in to temptation, and purchased a 13900K?

Hey not nearly as bad as Sugi0luver and his 40+ retail samples he has tested. Him and his buddies go all out! 🙃

I have this Corsair 6000 Vengeance stuff@ 6800 so far. stability testing now, seems okay for gaming/benching/etc. Sorry @Reciever accidentally double posted 🙁

I don’t think the CPU is golden or even special at all. I am assuming average probably. But I really don’t know or have anything to compare it to. But I’ll say this, exotic cooling or not. Of all (4) 11900K’s I’ve tested only 1 could do 5.3Ghz+ PRIME95 stable. No matter how cold that water is. No matter how large that radiator, no matter how fast the water pumps. The other 11900K’s failed. Obviously my good 11900K could do far more than 5.3 in Prime95. But I guess what I’m saying is, my cooling isn’t what made it possible, it was the CPU. I do feel like my heat transfer is absolutely atrociously poor from the cpu die to the water on this 13900KF.

Oh it’s fantastic! I’m just still figuring things out is all. 😎

Is it a daily limit that for each user maybe? UPDATE: This is the real screen shot.

R23 (30 Minute run) 5.8 P-cores 4.5 E-Cores 4.8 Cache/Ring For some reason the forum is limiting my attachments to 282Kb lol. Clicking on the image helps quality some.

How is this latency so far? I heard it was improved from 12th gen, but I wouldn't really know. Just XMP and 6400