jaybee83

im tending towards the mount, i could do 8000 stable before with this exact cpu :) i only switched out case, fans, cpu aio and updated bios. no changes to the actual hardware. so with bios out of the way that leaves the mount, lets see how it goes.

did you go all out on the vcore of did u do some curve flattening. im wondering if most user reports over on overclock.net with the xoc being super inefficient is cuz they just flash and go full throttle and run into thermal limits right away. i was thinking to fully let the PL loose at 1200W but then manually flatten the V/F curve via AB and check mutliple vcore limits. im sure one can get better results that way. @Mr. Fox any new insights from ur side with XOC vs. Matrix vbios? this. even better if ure still able to snag the older TX-1600 version with 2x 8 pin connectors on the psu end for the two included 12VHPWR cables 😁 although its been going in and out of stock with prices nowhere near its original MSRP. seems to be in high demand, i wonder why.... 😋 @Mr. Fox so i updated my mobo bios to the latest version, this time once through ezflash and second time via bios flashback just to be on the safe side. still cant reach 8000 stable but looks like at 7600 i can go tighter on the timings than before. at this point im suspecting im having a suboptimal mount of the cpu, i remembered that i had some issues installing the arctic freezer III pro onto the cpu, since it only sports two(!) screw points instead of the previous LF II with four. since ill be opening up the case anyways once the wireview pro II gets here, i might as well do another cpu mount and also delid it while at it. maybe using the TG High perf. IHS might help with the mounting, since it sports a larger area and lower overall z height. so much tuning to do, so little time! but still tons fun 😁 and heck yeah, nvidia and amd take ur sweet time with new gpu gens, let the 5090 reign supreme for another 2-3 years, we dont mind 😄

niiice what card is that? 32GB HBM2 sounds sweeeeeet, wanna take off the cooler and show us some silicon pr0n? 😄

well dayum, looks like ill have two vbioses to play around with once my wireview pro II comes in 😄 so if i understand it correctly, the asus XOC vbios forces 1.15V at all times on the core? is there an option to lower it and have some control? otherwise id have to try and reign in the temps via power limiting but id prefer voltage tbh. in any case, nice to FINALLY have more options 🙂 is it just me or does it somehow feel like running the 5090 at 1kW+ is more dangerous than the 4090 at 1000W? with my previous 4090 suprim i just ran the 1000W XOC vbios as a daily without issues. and that was without any monitoring tool like the wireview i will have available now. sweet, ill save it up for future reference 🙂 want to get my DDR5 issues sorted first before i start properly tuning the CPU. but now with the Matrix and XOC vBioses out ill have to go back to GPU tuning too 😄 so much to do, so little time, argh! enjoy the bit of freetime u have now between jobs, im sure ull be in over ur head once the new position starts 🙂 keeping my fingers crossed for you on that btw!

the timing of your post is hilarious, ive been going nuts these past weeks since i cant get my kit stable at 8000 anymore, had to back down to 7600 ugh. the same exact setup hardware wise, only two differences being the new case / cpu cooling / fans and ofc i updated to the newest bios. imagine that i currently cannot even get 6000 stable anymore in synchronous mode, like wtf.... and even at 7600 with tightened timings the bandwidth and latency results are absolute garbage. theres definitely something funky going on here, and as of yet i have no idea what it is....

from what ive seen so far im expecting it to work on the Suprim, albeit likely not with all 3 fans functional (ive tried the Astral vBios before and it was only able to address two of the three fans), so id have to check and see if cooling would still be up to snuff for the increased wattage. @electrosoftwhats that "XoC debacle" ure mentioning? just the fact that it still aint available or was there smth else?

daaaamn nice! thx for the headsup and tag bud, much appreciated 🙂 now i know what ill do once i get my hands on the wireview pro II 😄

nifty, but my main gripe is still that in many instances i need to manually come up with new profiles whenever i update the bios version. cmon now, how hard can it be to make bios profiles compatible with all new bios versions?!

so far no too shabby tbh with regards to 5090 availability and pricing. total of 41 models on offer, out of which 33 are in stock and ready for shipping. another 3 skus need a bit of a wait time and only 5 are currently out of stock. currently cheapest model, the Inno3D X3 goes for 2399€, thus far only a "medium" increase over its all time low price point at 2076€. the Suprim SOC had its lowest price back in Sep until mid-Oct at 2640€, has since slightly increased to 2840€. The Astrai had a low at 2740€ back in Aug and has now increased to 2880€, so its been more stable than other models, price curve still pretty flat but at a much higher price level than other models. the upcreep is slight thus far but one can discern a slow upward trend. still time to snatch a model at a comparably decent price tho. from what i can discern, the cheapest ever available 5090 model was the Ventus back in June at 1999€.

im in the same position here, will likely need to replace my 90° Seasonic cable, probably going back to the straight Seasonic one that came stock with my 1600W PSU, thus switching back from current top routing to bottom. should be fine 🙂

pre-ordered one for some additional peace of mind. expected shipping in mid-Dec 🙂

yep thats the shortcoming on those cables, they are incredibly hard to find LOL what i did was to take the serial number of the cable i wanted and just do a google wide search for it. maybe u can find some US or Europe based shops that offer them this way 🙂

they offer both. they got different kinds of 12V-2x6 ccables, i got the 2x8-pin to 12V-2x6 connector sku.

you could try and give the Seasonic cable a shot that ive been using. Not sure if the pinout would be compatible, but Seasonic is definitely up there with Noctua and others in terms of reliability and product quality. Havent heard of any cases of these cables melting (yet, at least 😛 ) https://seasonic.com/12v-2x6-cable-90-degrees/

awesome i will look into this some more before ordering 🙂 thanks for the input!

ahaha actually i have a bit of a conundrum, i can never leave any color combination or solid single color for too long before i get bored of it. so i default to rainbow, basically the compromise i can live with the longest 😄 the routing of the GPU power cable was a necessity, since the angles Seasosnic cables can only be installed in this orientation. I think I actually might have preferred to route it downwards, so as not to go over the fan cooling the RAM: but its ok, I can live with it if it means im using high quality cables that down melt on me 😛 so as mentioned, started again with RAM tuning and boy can i see that im right on the very edge of stability at DDR5-8000. My previously tuned timings arent stable anymore, so gotta find the new tight spots. Basically, every CPU and RAM install slightly changes the minimum timings i can reach 😄 im able to boot up 8100/8200/8300 and get into windows but they dont pass TM5 testing, no matter how much i loosen the timings. anyways, back to tuning 8000, about time i finish it up together with minimizing related voltages before i turn my gaze to CPU tuning 😛 just one thing left before the new setup is complete: i need a new GPU sag bracket! cant use the previous one, since im now sporting bottom fans, so im eyeing this one by UpHere: cant be bothered with the ARGB version, dont want a frigging CABLE hanging off my sag bracket 😄 so black n white version it is for me. length should be fine at 276mm, with the Suprim SOC at 359mm.

btw where did u find this version? on the official download page 1.35 is still the newest. thanks for providiing a link! gonna continue my RAM tuning and install this while im at it 🙂

i KNEW you would love it 😄

aight boiiiiz, new setup is done, pretty happy with how it turned out 🙂

holy crap one of the most iconic songs of all time, blasting it through my headphones right now yessssss 😄 ladies are asleep, finally some alone time for daddy to continue tinkering 😄

about friggin time on all counts! thx for the headsup, currently enjoying a vacay on Malta with my two ladies 🙂 escaping the dreadful weather in germany, instead at 25-30C 🙂

well the scam part goes without saying, thats just the new normal nowadays. but the fact that crossflashing to different SKUs is BACK is absolutely awesome 😄 btw, first boot in the new case + new fans + new CPU cooler last night, w00t w00t! all fans are spinning and the wifi 7 module works beautifully after driver install, 5.8 Gbps wifi speed for the win! 😁only got two minor gripes ill need to iron out in the coming days: three of the fans arent illuminated, so need to check the cabling. and ill also need an additional y-adapter with 4-pin PWM connectors to clean up some of the cabling up front / move it to the back. installing and managing a total of 15(!) 140mm fans takes its toll 😄 will be sure to post some pics once everything is fully functional and tidy 🙂 havent properly set up my fan curves yet but i did some quick testing with my 9950X3D in CB24 at stock, it maxed out in the mid 60s with 200W peak LOL. absolutely ridiculous 🙂 in any CASE (pun intended!), the Phanteks NV9 is BIG and its finally got enough space to cleanly manage ALL the cables on the backside, me likes.

i imagine us hanging out to be quite fun and interesting irl 😄

got the new case in, old case almost empty of hardware now. disassembled the motherboard last night for a nice thorough cleaning and also replaced all thermal pads on the SSDs, as well as the VRMs and chipsets while i was at it 🙂 of course, i also swapped out the intel Wifi6E card with the new Qualcomm Wifi7 model. jeez what a crazy amount of steps and screws and heatsinks it takes to actually GET to the wifi card! whereas in laptops i just remove the back cover and bam, there it is....they could learn a thing or two from that on desktops 😄 next step: get the PSU and all the cabling out of the old case and prep the Noctua fans for the new AIO. that and the new fans have also arrived, so now just waiting on the extra bling light strips for the case, but that aint time sensitive for the transplant 🙂 its fun to be tinkering again, but cant afford more than 2h every night before i basically drop dead from total exhaustion 😅

waddhup boiiiiiiz Soooo as mentioned before, Ive now pimped our home network up from a crappy ISP Wifi5 router to a Wifi 7 Mesh router by Cudy (WR11000 / BE11000), hadnt heard of that brand before but they seem to be on the up and up recently: While at it, I figured why not use the opportunity and also swap out my Wifi card from the Intel 210ax with Wifi6E to a Qualcomm QCNCM865 Wifi7 M.2 Adapter: until I realized that i need to FRIGGIN TAKE OUT THE WHOLE MOTHERBOARD in order to remove the VRM heatsinks via screws on the back to get to the Wifi module omg... so THEN i figured: F it, if im gonna disassemble my whole build, might as well upgrade the case, fans and the AIO while im at it, clean all the components that will stay the same and start out FRESH 😄 soooo, case first, im sticking to Phanteks and switching over to the NV9 MKII, absolute unit of a case, even larger than my current Enthoo Pro II (going from approx. 77L to 99L total volume LOL): reasons why I chose this case: - welp, SIZE obviously 😄 also looking forward to having more space for cable management on the back vs. my current Enthoo Pro II - motherboard located quite low in the case, so lots of space up top to move my current front AIO to the top - more glass to see inside - moving to all 140mm fans, currently still have 3x120mm at the bottom while im at it, also gonna get the light strips upgrade kit for the case, bling it out some more: next up, CPU AIO, sticking with Arctic but moving from my current 420 LFII to the 420 LFIII Pro. Apparently, the "pro" moniker in this context means that the fans have been upgraded, thus higher static pressure and higher air flow: ill be keeping my Noctua NF-A14 Industrial-PPC 3000rpm for push/pull on the AIO and use the included AIO fans as case fans instead. Also gonna get another 6 Arctic P14 Pro fans to deck out the NV9 MKII: theyre actually pretty impressive specwise, with 187m³/h air flow and 5.2 mm H2O static pressure. This with 6 years warranty and at 30€ for a 3-pack. so basically 10 bucks per fan, nice 🙂 Lets see how long this transplant will take, I wager itll likely take me a full week of late nights after my lil princess has gone to bed to make this happen. it will sure be fun though! Will update you guys with pics once done 🙂