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Knowing you I kind of thought that you would just take a panel that somehow fits - it is child's play for you compared to the GPU solution 😄 Did you go with displays that have the panel connector in the same place or can the cable also be re-routed for displays that have the connector on the other side?

Thanks, I was looking for the 17.3" panel though and asked @Developer79as it seemed that he had already tested a specific display. Personally I would have preferred a nice QHD display like the one in the X170 series but for the P775TM there is only the not that great AUO TN panel that is pretty bad even by TN panel standards.

MSI GT75 9SG 9980HK: The mobile version of the 9900K that is mostly held back by big intra core differences. No comparison to a 9900K that has much lower differences.

Do you have a panel number for us or a link? And will that panel just go in there and connect to the existing 4K panel cable?

I guess we will have to wait and see and you always have to compare apples to apples. Latency with 2x48 may be worse compared to 2x32 but then it may be better than previous installations with more than 64GB in a laptop which is really the point of comparison if you need more than 64GB. Currently looking at my memory usage and with a few virtual machines I am at 73 out of 128GB so I would at least need 96GB and there would be no point of going back to 64 🙂

From what I remember anything above 64GB in a laptop was limited to 3600 MHz until now so even at 4800 we are talking about a serious speed bump!

I think the image was only a forum logo from TechpowerUp that did not trransfer over so I have erased it and yes we will see what will be possible. From what I read with 4 sodimms and 192GB the 3600 limit should remain in effect and I am not sure if a future bios update will help with that in the laptops with that configuration. If things work out that way the bigger draw imo is being able to go up to 96GB with only two sodimms and stock speeds of 5600, not that many people need more.

Indeed, pretty stupid behaviour. I think their latest models with 400+W power limits were the dual power supply GT75 with the 9980HK CPU and the 2080 and then later the GT76 that went up to the 9900K and 10900K CPUs. Now that we have CPUs and GPUs that would scale very well they only allow for 250W combined CPU and GPU power as if it was something to be happy about...

I see you upped may power uptake for both CPU and GPU by 75W each - not sure that Asus will approve 😄 Is your 600W power supply still in a laptop type form factor like the Eurocom version or is it something entirely different? In any case your project gives a very good idea of what would be possible if manufacturers got serious again with laptops but currently they are not even willing to increase total system power beyond the standard 330W brick. MSI supposedly was allowing a higher power draw of something like 400W with the GT77 for a while but when they noticed it they released a new bios to limit the unit to a total of 330W again- gotta protect that 330W power supply. Obviously this is ridiculous as such a unit could take any combination of power supplies from something like 240W for light travel to 2 x 330W for stationary use - no problem with that.

That's pretty crazy and looking at the desktop 4080 I would assume that going beyond 250W will not bring you that much performance gain but maybe going to 1V will add a bit more! Also I just found your thread in the Asus forum so will continue to post there.

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48GB for sale that was supposedly tested in last years CreatorPro X17: https://www.ebay.de/itm/305032385458 So there seems to be more to it (or less) as MSI pledged support without needing a bios update which would mean that backwards compatibility is better than expected: Feb 10, 2023 Today MSI is announcing the support of 48 GB and 24 GB DDR5, non-binary memory across Intel 700 and 600 Series motherboards, including MEG, MPG, MAG, and PRO Series products. Namely, the maximum memory capacity support is increased to 192 GB for 4 DIMMs motherboards and 96 GB for 2 DIMMs motherboards. MSI has committed to providing performance and compatibility to DIY enthusiasts. It is unnecessary to update motherboard BIOS for supporting 48 GB based memory modules. Just install the new memory module to enjoy a more efficient system with more productivity, especially for those multi-tasking gamers and users.

I don't know about such a bios update being needed in all cases as I am pretty sure that I had an older MSI GT72 with a bios that predated the introduction of 32GB DDR4 and two of those sticks worked just fine in it. In any case there seems to be support from at least Lenovo and MSI and probably most other manufacturers so this will be a very helpful upgrade for laptops with only two SO-DIMM slots.

So it took some time but these are now scheduled to arrive next week over here: If our pricing is any indicator it looks like US pricing should be somewhere between 140 and 150$

I take it this will help a lot given your enormous combined CPU and GPU power draw! How much beyond 200W have you taken your 4090?

Yours looks like a textbook DTR use case so that's a definite yes. If you buy next year we may have an even bigger selection of 18" laptops but even now you may want to check them out first.

And there are gaming laptops like the MSI GP series or most Lenovo Legion models that look pretty much normal with their RGB effects disabled.

In Germany we now have 48GB UDIMM from: Corsair G-Skill Mushkin TeamGroup Still no SO-DIMM to be seen anywhere...

Not sure if we really need 8 drive slots but with the option to stack drives the manufacturers should go for 6 drive slots for the 2280 form factor. That should be the minimum for top of the line DTRs. A nice side effect would be that laptops would have to get a bit thicker again which can also be used for better cooling.

At least in Germany three manufacturers are offering 48GB UDIMMs so hopefully SO-DIMMs are not too far off.

So I found a disassembly video of the Zbook 16 G9 on youtube and there is no regular MXM from factor card on this one any more and unfortunately the chassis is also used by the Zbook 16 G10: So not too many options for the X170 and I wish HP would go back to a compatible MXM form factor for an 18" Zbook Fury 18 G11.

If it feels to be roughly the same speed it would be good enough for me and as SATA usually feels about as fast as PCI-E I am pretty sure that would be the case. I used to be happy with SATA, too but now the cheapest storage seems to be PCI-E, at least up to 2TB and therefore I have mostly PCI-E drives now.

I usually prefer adjustability but being in a compromised performance state on battery I do not think I would mind SSDs being half of their usual speed as it is not like they could hold that speed for very long anyway. So if AMD based systems only have these restrictions on battery I would not really mind. I had to read that part with @Papusantwice as I could not quite believe it 😄

It probably pretty much depends on what one is doing - if battery life is of any importance check it with the workload you are using as that will give you the best idea of real world useability and in your case your AMD laptop lasts twice as long as the Intel version. It would be a really good idea to tell a laptop how much it is supposed to consume at most or alternatively how long you plan to use it on battery and then it would need some intelligent reallocation of resources to do as best as it can with the consumption / time limit that has been set.

Calling brother @Papusan an AMD fanboy is something else... While the numbers you post are quite interesting it seems the tables are turned with more powerful CPUs like for example here: And FWIW: I had/have a bunch of Intel CPU powered laptops that cannot do shit when on battery but these are the ones with the big boy CPUs that can all pull at least 150W and often up to 200W in multithreaded loads.