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AW 18 with QUADRO RTX 3000 - TDP 40W problem
sliderfra replied to sliderfra's topic in Alienware 18 and M18x
this card is actually an RTX 3k, only the string was renamed into Geforce RTX 2060 in the inf NVIDIA file. It definitely works fine on other computers, but strangely the 1060 that was originally mounted on the AW18 works perfectly fine as well. Only this one goes nuts...😌 -
AW 18 with QUADRO RTX 3000 - TDP 40W problem
sliderfra replied to sliderfra's topic in Alienware 18 and M18x
I tried that card on M17X R4, 17 R1, DELL M6800, DELL M6700, MSI GT60/70 Ivy & Haswell --> trouble free I tried the HP version of Quadro RTX 3k on the AW18 and it was also trouble free. IDK why this specific card / AW18 give me headaches... -
AW 18 with QUADRO RTX 3000 - TDP 40W problem
sliderfra replied to sliderfra's topic in Alienware 18 and M18x
Unfortunately no dice on the AW 18. Still the same problem. All drivers are up to date. I tried a full bios reset and nvram reset (uplugging coin & 30s power button push). as you can see on GPUz board draw goes from 80W to 40W all along... IDK why and I've already lost two full afternoon working on that thing. I reinstalled the 1060 that was inside and it works perfectly fine. The RTX was tested in a MSI GT60 Haswell and also works perfectly fine. -
AW 18 with QUADRO RTX 3000 - TDP 40W problem
sliderfra replied to sliderfra's topic in Alienware 18 and M18x
Holy crap! I think I figured it out... Tested the card on an MSI GT60 haswell without battery and exactely same sh*t happened. Then I remembered something: MSI GT60 haswell uses some kind of Hybrid power with a battery connected (as the PSU was "only" 180w on that model)... I tested with a battery connected and BINGO! VRAM of the card does not throttle at all. So maybe there's a goddamn driver / programme on the alienware 18 that does the same kind of sh*t. @ssj92, any hindsight as you have the same laptop? -
Hi fellas, and happy new year BTW, I tried to upgrade an alienware 18 (Haswell, BIOS A12 unlocked) with a PNY MXM 3.0B Quadro RTX 3000. Installation wain painless as the card is standard MXM. Driver installation and inf mod was also easy (I'm quite used to doing it now 😁) But when I start any 3D app, as soon as the card hits 60°C barrier, it starts to thermal throttle hardly until temp is below 55° (or so...), and it goes up again, and then down again... In details: - core frequency stays the same ( between 1600Mhz & 1800Mhz) - RAM throttles down to 200Mhz (instead of 1750Mhz) !!! - TDP reports 50% - Power reports ~40W - Perf cap reason on GPUZ: Thrm (Thermal, but WHY???, card stays below 60°C) What I tried already: - I thought at first it was that crap of windows 11 --> I installed win 10 = same behaviour. - I tried with 3 different drivers (the 3 latest for quadro RTX 3000 mobile) = same behaviour. - I tried 330W & 240W psu = same behaviour - I repasted the card twice and checked if all RAM chips were properly covered by thermal pads What do I try next: - alternate vbios? Do you have any idea of what's wrong with that card? Or is it the alienware itself?
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I also ordered 2 RTX3k before stock ran off... Feedback from french forum about the RTX 5k: it's definitely NOT standard MXM. Needs heavy work as it's longer than standard MXM and the mounting holes are 5mm offset... So honestly I'm glad I did not order one of these. But 100€ for RTX3k was definitely a bargain 🙂
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I got 2 from that PNY seller to upgrade "old" Alienware m17x R4. I got more than 5400pts on time spy now. Not bad for a 10 yo laptop 🙂 I wish I bought 10 more as all my friends are asking for that card now to upgrade old MSI GTs and Alienwares... Reports on french forum say the RTX 5000 is not standard mxm and needs heavy heatsink modding (5mm offset of mounting holes for the X bracket)
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Hi, unlocked bios is necessary to force the system in SG mode (if you have 60HZ LVDS screen). Normally if you have 120Hz edp screen, your stuck with PEG so no need to unlock bios but 1060 GTX should handle it with the right VBIOS (ZOTAC & Asrock vbios don't work IIRC) how come installation did not finish? Do you have code 43 in device manager? Use DDU (display driver uninstall) in safe mode before to flush any signs of old AMD/Nvidia drivers before processing. I'm pretty sure you missed something on your inf mod. you need to edit nvdispi.inf (1 line) and nvdmi.inf (line at the back with your device ID then line on top with different sections) Then restart with disable driver enforcement and you're good to go
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he says clearly he isn't so technical! I installed the RTX 3k on my AW18 and I can definitely say that it is NOT an easy task. If you don't have the appropriate tools and gameplan, that can easily turn to a nightmare. Standard MXM modules do exist, and quadro P4000 is not so far away from RTX 3000 performance wise. But it is cheaper! Unless he absolutely needs RTX stuff or to push his old RANGER to the edge, he should stick with standard mxm.
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HI, no RTX3000 is a very bad idea as it needs a lot of chassis modification on the 17 so I definitely do not recommend this GPU unless you want to loose a day of hard labour. Go for standard mxm 3.0B card such as 1070 gtx, quadro P3000/P4000/P5000 or P3200/4200/5200 (ones that are fitted with bios chip ONLY)
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yeah most probably a dud card, as the P106M is detected as 3D accelerator, and not standard VGA adapter. It only needs inf mod and it's alive, but as I said, performance is quite low as the core freq is limited to 1200Mhz and there's no turbo boost whatsoever
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for 15$ mate, go for it! performance wise, it's between 970m and 980m GTX. But card stays super cool. Problem is the BIOS, there's absolutely no way to mod this...
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Do you know how much an m18x R2 mobo cost?? As it may only be a BIOS issue, he should do whatever it takes to recover it instead of wasting 200 or 300$ into a refurbished mobo
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When you get the laptop back, try to run it without any RAM to see if you have the 2 / 4 beep error code. Then do the recovery process mentionned above (CMOS batt in, main batt disconnected, 1 stick of RAM, no hard drive) Laptop should do loud beeps during all the process (around 5 to 6 min) then reset by itself. Then you should get something on screen Last resort is to use CH341A and flash a working dump of the bios. It's not easy and could do more harm than good so...
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Hi, If you want Tesla P106m to work you absolutely need modded BIOS to force SG mode Then you want to mod nvidia drivers, otherwise card will be detected as 3D accelerator. Performances are alright (around 2200pt on Time Spy with i7 4700mq) -in between 970m & 980m- Plus side is clearly the thermals as temperature on burn is around 70°C on MSI GT70, and 60° on Alienware 17. Down side is locked bios & no turbo boost (card stays at 1200Mhz) thus the low performance compared to 1060 gtx 6Go (around 3400pt on time spy). I tested them in MSI GT, Alienware 17 & M17X, DELL Precision M6700 & M6800, HP Zbook 17 G2... On MSI & Alienware everything works (even hdmi / DP) but on precision & Zbook you will not have any output on external (as hdmi & DP are routed directly to mxm) except for VGA out (routed to IGP). On your m18x R2 you might get something better like RX480 (90€ on Ali), s7100X (60€ if lucky draw on ebay) or 1060 / 1070 / 1080 (expensive options...)
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hi mate, I struggled to get the RTX 3000 working on my 18: Key to success is to cut the fins with a dremel IOT fit the HS into the case (I had to cut at least 3mm of fin to fit the HS). That was a real pain as it's really fragile (wrap the fins into shatterton at first to avoid them breaking when you use the dremel to cut them)
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Ray Tracing on M18xR2 - RTX 3000 MXM Upgrade!
sliderfra replied to ssj92's topic in Alienware 18 and M18x
Hi fellas! I just finished my installation of Quadro RTX 3000 on my AW 18, and it rocks!! Modding was a real pain in the arse: - cutting the heatsink was mandatory - cutting the fins was also necessary IOT fit the displaced HS into the chassis - glueing one nut was needed to secure the card on the MB - I also added a piece of metal to streghthen the card onto the MB Modded inf was also needed for driver installation (the easy part actually as I'm used to modding nvidia drivers 🙂 ) Card runs cool despite the fact I have (only) the 75W heatsink, with around 72°C after a run of 3DMark Thanks a lot for the different tutorials, here and on NBRarchive. BTW I have unlocked BIOS A12 (many thanks to ssj92 for sharing all unlocked AW BIOSes here), I wonder if I can extract a bit more juice of my 4810mq (like force max turbo bins or something)? Or do I absolutely need 4930mx for overclocking? -
You can always change it afterwards by performing a bios backup then edit the bios with hex editor then reflash with fpt
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Hi mate. With New MB check you have a correct service tag set. If ST is bad, alienfx won't work
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Price: 350€ OBO Condition: used - working Warranty: none Reason for sale: not enough spare time to play with it.... Payment: Paypal F&F Item location: FRANCE Shipping: inland via La Poste / Mondial Relay International shipping: yes, contact me for quote (Mondial Relay possible for nearby countries, La Poste for rest of the world) Handling time: 5 days max Feedback: old member of Notebookreview forum (johnbb for those who remember 🙂 [Click and drag to move] ) and active member of french forum hardware.fr Specifications: Quadro RTX 3000 6GB GDDR5 Frend of mine sold it to me when he updated his Zbook G6 to RTX 5000. It's been lying around ever since as I don't have time to take care of it. It's not exactly standard MXM 3 type B (offset mounting holes) so it needs a great deal of workmanship to adapt the card in any laptop except Zbook 17 G6. Card is reported to be working on Alienware: ADLINK also produces RTX 3000 but in standard MXM form factor. On the other hand, price is super high IIRC (1.5k$) Proof of ownership: Time Stamped pictures
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Hi mate, Glad you're back on your feet buddy ! Did you try a CH341A with SOIC8 adapter (crocodile clip)? I costs only a few bucks on Ali or ebay. I got a few laptop back to life with that wonderful thing, including a few AW. If you need the software for BIOS flashing or BIOS dump, PM me
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P106m with Dell Precision M6600
sliderfra replied to Nowan's topic in Pro Max & Precision Mobile Workstation
Hi, Strange you have bad results with p106m. I tested the card on MSI GT60 / 70, on Alienware 17 & m17x R4 (needs unlocked bios to be in SG mode), DELL M6700 (needs OPTIMUS on) and HP ZBook (needs OPTIMUS on) and it works flawlessly. I have around 2500pts on time spy. Only caveat is that the frequency is very low (1290Mhz) and there's no BOOST on this one. Second problem is BIOS structure is different to Geforce 1060 GTX so all registers are different... It's a shame because the card runs super cool (60° on full load on MSI GT60, even less on Alienware). Be aware that on Dell Precision & Zbook you loose all external output except VGA (as HDMI/DP are linked to PCIe mxm directly). On MSI GT & Alienware, outputs are OK though.- 13 replies
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Hi everyone, I've got my hands on some GP106-505-kc-A1 (Tesla p106m server cards). They work perfectly fine with OPTIMUS on MUXLESS laptops (GT60 / GT70 / Clevo P150 - 170 EM&SM series / Alienware M17x R4 & R5 or M18x R2 & 18R1 in SG mode) but there is absolutely no way to output directly (no wired edp or dp nor hdmi out). Other caveat is the vbios: frequency is severely hampered as there's no boost. Core clock is 1291Mhz and GDDR5 clock at 1500Mhz. MSI Afterburner does not offer the option to lock core freq / voltage like a regular pascal card. So basically there's no software way to overclock. Does anyone know how to edit BIOS to be able to overclock? Thanks a lot here's the link to the vbios: https://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/234576/234576
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IIRC Tesla M6 cannot be crossflashed with M5000M vbios as physical layout is slightly different. As it has no wired video port, Tesla M6 needs OPTIMUS to work, and your P150HM does not have optimus (only EM and SM series do). Sorry mate