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Papusan replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
Nvidia could pump up the performance and added more vram and sold the 5080 for $1199 (people need to feel they get more for the money). With AMD going for mid range the $1199 price point would probably be too much. Hence why 5080 become as it is. Aka less appealing. But if you get an good AIB 4090 card for $1200 that would be the replacement for what I said above. 5080 as it is now is neither a bird or fish. Not sure how it goes with @ryan but this could be a start going with desktops... If he don't want to build one himself. Pick up an iBUYPOWER desktop PC (with RTX 4070 Super) for a fraction of the price of an RTX 5090 — now just $1,399 -
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Papusan replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
Hmmm. The 5080 improve in quality. The above said it should be the 5060. But HU mean it should be an 5070. Maybe the middleman 5060Ti would be the better compromise? 😁 I have always tried follow the rules in life... Be an honest man. If I can't do that I would feel poor and misserable. -
*Official Benchmark Thread* - Post it here or it didn't happen :D
Papusan replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
If you're standing in line and are able to grab two, three, or four, then stop complaining about the shortage the next time you're in line for the next latest and greatest. There's for a reason stores/retailers say one item for every customer. You're ruining for the next guy in line for limited-edition items if you don't respect the rules. You are your own enemy. Scalpers do the same thing, but for maximum profit. What's the differences for the peps in line behind you getting nothing? What if the man in the line before you buy up everything to help friends/family members that don't bother spend their valuable time in the order line? Maybe they pay him for the work as well. If you have more than one item on your invoice/bill, you haven't followed the rules. Neither have the retailer. But what do I know... I'll take the time to find what I want. So no cryes/anger here🙂 With time the 4000 series will get some more love. Just sell out as much 5000 series cards you can make first. But probably smart because most 4000 series owners won't upgrade every gen. As well keep them of from buying cheaper AMD Radeon cards when they launch later this spring. But shops/retail will do whatever they can to screw you. And the manufacturer of the gods don't bother with you as paying customers. They care only for max profits. Only god know how many D branded cards got most love from Jensen and nvidia. Proshop has now spoken to PCGH . However, the retailer has withdrawn all responsibility for the events at or before the market launch and has simply referred to Nvidia. " Questions about the launch and its handling " should be directed to the manufacturer, they say. Nvidia has not commented. And Asus prefer plastic (metal look alike) on the fan shroud for worlds most expensive (gaming) graphics cards. High quality plastic. The same said Dell for their AW Jokebooks. White turned to poop color after 3-4 weeks. On a item that costed $5000. Yup, high quality can be so much. But people should be happy Asus didn't use metal as etc MSI. The Astral cards could have been easly $100 more. So... Plastic is fantastic. At least Asus think so for their disgusting priced flagship😀 -
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Papusan replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
ProShop is the main sales sites to find hardware in Norway and Scandinavia. Nice. Scalper bots said to be responsible for majority of GeForce RTX 50 Founders Edition sales in Europe ProShop has sold the bulk of European RTX 50 Founders Edition cards to scalpers PC Games Hardware was informed by its community that other users were bragging about purchasing RTX 50 FE cards before the oficial launch (at 3:00 PM local time). Once the embargo lifted, there were no cards left to buy. Proshop, a large retailer with multiple chains across various countries, was responsible for handling the sales of Founders Edition cards exclusively in these regions. However, it turns out there was never a real chance to buy these cards, as they were all purchased in Some users even conrmed using multiple addresses to buy cards and circumvent the restriction limiting shipments to one per address. Hmmm. Dom bought two cards from Proshop. -
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Papusan replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
Hwinfo can't pick it up. All too slow. Software vill never be able to catch it correct. And I have seen too many with lower bench scores than needed to be, due their love for massive undervolt. This both for processors and graphics cards. Their HW run at the brink of stability. If they further shrink on voltage they will see soft crashes. Modern HW don't crash in same way as in the older days. Asus... What the hell. -
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Papusan replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
What you see is most likely ghost clocks. I really enoyed Kefi's experiment. He is the one that made the custom Nvflash for 4000 series. Even Frame Chasers couldn't see it when he reviewed the 5080. The bench results he posted showed the real truth. The high boost didn't match the scores/results. Most modern hardware will clock stretch. This will continue (the bench run but will provide lower results) until it crash due the lack of voltage. Often soft crashes if you haven't totally capped down the needed voltage. The hardware will run at the brink of stability due too little voltage. I've discovered that all 4090s clock stretch below 1.15v. The factory limit was changed mid-production to 1.07v and thus new 4090s are secretly losing up to 100mhz. I've discovered that all 4090s clock stretch below 1.15v -
*Official Benchmark Thread* - Post it here or it didn't happen :D
Papusan replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
MSI GeForce RTX 5080 Suprim Liquid SOC 16GB GDDR7 PCI-Express Graphics Card available in England. Only £1,799.99 or $2,235.84 USD. Have been available all day and the gamers still don't want it, LOOL Dang.... Thats +100% above MSRP. Yup, incl tax but still. -
*Official Benchmark Thread* - Post it here or it didn't happen :D
Papusan replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
ASUS reveals launch pricing for GeForce RTX 5090/5080, up to $3,099 for 5090 ROG ASTRAL LC $300 extra for the Astral LC card. Aka 55% above MSRP or 300$ above the aircooled Astral OC. Source: ASUS PR. Yup, UL/Futurmark does not disappoint. They are ready with the upgraded Fake frame benchmark. 3DMark DLSS feature test has been updated to support DLSS4 Btw. If you can't find 5000series for sale maybe an Jokebook from Microsoft is what you want instead? Microsoft launches Intel-powered Surface Laptop 7 and Surface Pro 11 for business Choose between Intel or Qualcomm Copilot+ PCs from Microsoft -
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Papusan replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
Not so sure about that. Remember citizens in Europa pay from 19-25% taxes on top of the bill. And if Jensen was smart. Start flood the US market with loads of cards before the Trump tax become an reality. But who knows... Nvidia and Jensen will prioritice China before anything. -
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Papusan replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
There is prosumers that want a cheaper option as 4090 for multi GPU setup. And the 5080 should really be an 5060, LOL NVIDIA RTX 5080 should be the RTX 5060: the difference in shaders by cost compared to the full chip is worse with each generation Will this mess be fixed with an bios update? Can bios updates fix flawed HW design? Remember the flawed connector design for 40 series. Only a revision upgrade could reduce the smoke and fire. Reviewer reports RTX 5080 FE instability — PCIe 5.0 signal integrity likely the culprit The issue is suspected to stem from the multi-PCB design of the FE cards. Also have an eye on this.... ROG RTX 5090 once again uses a different core back capacitor combination? Other RTX 5090Ds on Bilibili, including MANLI, ZOTAC, GIGABYTE, COLORFUL, INNO3D, AX GAMING, etc., are all MLCC designs. The 5090D Astral Tony Yu, ASUS China’s General Manager used for the world records had 4 caps and MLCC desig. But the Cards Asus showed under CES had MLCC design. Edit. MSI use all MLCC design for all SKUs. While Asus only use same design on the 5080's. If I remember correctly... Older MSI Lightning cards had extra caps behind the GPU core on PCB. (GPU Reactor) – An add-on device on the back of GTX 680 Lightning for the overclocking stability. -
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Papusan replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
All 7 cards sold out here in Norway. 7 cards divided into 5,5 million citizens. -
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Papusan replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
As you know. He think he is perfect in his own mind. -
*Official Benchmark Thread* - Post it here or it didn't happen :D
Papusan replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
I think they all use latest beta software. His results is an outlier. And he was unable to see it. Edit. AMD RX 9070 XT is actually an RX 9080 in disguise: Average performance vs. leaked NVIDIA, better-than-expected Ray Tracing The RX 9070 XT data keeps coming in, and although all the data that AMD had collected internally was leaked a few weeks ago, we now have a specific and key piece of data that is comparative to another competing card. And yes, the RX 9070 XT is..... -
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Papusan replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
I'm sure Frame Chasers saw ghost clocks. Here is even lower 3.150MHz boost clocks. Or maybe he is unable to tune his own system?😁 -
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Papusan replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
I could easly find 4090's here home. But not what I wanted. MSI delays GeForce RTX 5090 official US store availability to February 6 -
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Papusan replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
I don't know. But the numbers looks right. Almost no cards out there.This launch is a joke. Japanese retailer will host a lottery to give buyers a chance to purchase an RTX 5090 or RTX 5080 -
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Papusan replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
Here at home. There should be 7 available when the stores open the sales (only Gigabyte). And Norway's largest online price guide has one SKU listed. High end 4000 series is almost empty. And Nvidia have problem push out 5000 series cards? All is about AI. But as we can see... Nvidia shares have dropped the last days 🙂 US introduces act to add tax credits for chip designers, extends credits for chip production, too China's Alibaba beats DeepSeek, OpenAI and Meta with Qwen 2.5 AI: Faster and smarter than GPT 4o, V3 and Llama 3.1 Optimization vs. raw power: China is winning the race against US hardware restrictions and blockades... And not much better from the Red side... AMD's high-end RX 9000 (RDNA 4) has been cancelled by Lisa Su: "She's tired of Radeon consuming so many wafers for the performance they achieve" -
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Papusan replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
Improved results in Y-cruncher https://hwbot.org/submission/5770089_papusan_y_cruncher___pi_25m_core_i9_14900ks_0_sec_206_ms?recalculate=true https://hwbot.org/submission/5770064_papusan_y_cruncher___pi_1b_core_i9_14900ks_14_sec_79_ms?recalculate=true -
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Papusan replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
Hmmm. El Chapuzas 5080 review sample did 500 on the core and got 3.165MHz while Frame chasers sample did 475 on the core and +3.232MHz overclock. Hmm. Nice. And I'm quite sure many samples offer ghost clocks (clock stretching). That's because the voltage is most likely too low for the showed overclock. But people think it's correct what their eyes see, so.... Lower boost clock but still beat Frame Shasers TIME SPY oc results. Anyone that can see the ghost here? El Chapuza's sample Frame Chasers sample Almost no 5090 SKU's for sale. Only two different SKUs readyfor sale. But customers can pick up 5 of the cards if they are lucky. Nice. Why not 10 or 15 for each customers? Nice. Faulthy PCIe finger design? And the 5090 cooler struggle more with the much smaller die. -
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Papusan replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
The raw performance uplift over previous gen ain't fake... Just disgusting. NVIDIA RTX 5080 is on average 8.3% faster than RTX 4080 SUPER according to first review -
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Papusan replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
Without new features as DLSS Multi Frame Generation, the 5000 series would be almost deal on arrival.... The new and shiny 5080 is xx80 with the least performance improvement in history. Even the GeForce GTX 580 has made a bigger step forward compared to the GTX 480 despite having a virtually identical GPU. Nvidia GeForce RTX 5080 Founders Edition review: Incremental gains over the previous generation Nvidia GeForce RTX 5080 review: Betting the future on ‘fake frames’ This one's gonna be controversial.... NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5090 in the big DLSS 4.0 test – Is Multi Frame Generation a real performance booster or just a distortion of reality? -
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Papusan replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
Not sure several Y-cruncher runs the last days and close to 500W is so healthy for the non delidded chips. But very fun see the results improve. Remember all the dead ones after running stock clocks with the stupid thermal velocity boost. And mine is still alive😀 https://hwbot.org/submission/5769243_papusan_y_cruncher___pi_1b_core_i9_14900ks_14_sec_115_ms?recalculate=true -
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Papusan replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
The closest I can come... SUPER OC'd. I mean modern PC user don't know what system-on-chip mean. S = Super expensive. Edit. the OC and SOC (super overclock) Do you trust this man? Frank.... Please... -
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Papusan replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
The 5090's prices are coming in here home. GIGABYTE GeForce RTX 5090 AORUS Master ICE cost $50 USD less than the ASUS GeForce RTX 5090 ROG Astral OC. Pick your poisen. But as I have stated before... I prefer Asus cards over Gigabyte. The Asus 5090 TUF is around $200 cheaper than ASUS GeForce RTX 5090 ROG Astral OC. Incl the 25% Norwegian tax and shipping. And to show prices for the 5090 LC versions. GIGABYTE GeForce RTX 5090 AORUS Xtreme WaterForce cost $44,25 USD more than ASUS GeForce RTX 5090 ROG Astral LC OC. Who would think Gigabyte was more expensive than Asus ROG cards. That's disgusting. (3,366.07 United States Dollar for the Giga LC card) incl the 25% Norwegian tax and shipping. Is Gigabyte gone nuts? -
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